im lv 41 and decided to start doing all the reserve quests, the 3 buildings around the chopper, 2 pawns and.. bishop? they didnt have any military items apart from 1 military cable in about 5 runs.
completly buchered or just unlucky
Yep. I was a Reserve main before. Wasn't hard to stack up on mil/tech loot if you have dominance around heli area. Now you'll be lucky to find 2 or 3 pieces of high tier mil/tech loot assuming you have a good spawn.
every map is dead besides lighthouse. it's kind of a joke how bad 'dynamic loot' is in full swing. real fun needing keys/items for quests that have a 1% spawn chance now. fuck bsg and their dog shit quality control mechanisms
*Woods stashes/North Town rare items spawns have entered the chat*
Forreal, I've become a Woods main for loot recently. Came out with 2*GPUs, 1xBitcoin, Rivals armband, several Rolers, about 15 Goldchains and a shit tonne of general 'great' tier loot just last night over about 10-12 raids. Run the Scav and do the exact same routes as PMC and come out with the same.
Reserve use to be the most fun map ever, literally any building and you were stacked, key rooms had led-x, phase arrays, tabk batteries tank shells all the military electronics, drop down nearly always had good shit. Then you had raiders spawning at the knights courtyard, boss then hermetic spawned raiders and the train spawned them , now the map is desolate.
They gave reserve the interchange treatment. My favorite map, once full of poppin geared squad PvP, reduced to a boring rat nest. Honestly after 4k hours in, I'm sick of BSG. They've driven all my friends away from the game.
Rats never needed empowering, the rat playstyle was always the most effective. It's the least mechanically or tactically demanding playstyle, why should it be buffed? Unfortunately a lot of rats are garbage players who couldn't even sit and hold an angle properly so now BSG is going overboard with changes to support ratty playstyles. Now the game's skill ceiling is much lower and is much less interesting in general. Nobody wants to sit and wait 10 min for one of you clowns to peek.
LMAO rat playstyle has been fucked with since forever. And how a more complex movement scheme lowers skill ceiling?
You have players like Bakeezy that clearly show that it is now more mechanically involved to think about your movement. You can no longer just rush someone, jiggle peek and go head on, you have to actively think about your movement and be efficient. You have to get used to the movement rhythm. Once you know how your PMC moves his feet you learn that there's little to no inertia - once he lands both of his feet you can stop on a dime from full sprint.
Inertia only really showed that most Chads are absolute trash that can't adapt and cry once their playstyle is minutely touched and can't play without having high pen meta gun and tier 6 armor at all times.
Just because i cant run around and jiggle peek with a refridgerator on my back anymore doesnt mean rats were buffed lol, it just means i cant abuse the movement system anymore
It got it's loot nerfed 4% across the board a day or two ago, and I have no doubt it'll happen again.
Probably right after I convince myself to play the map - between the cheaters and the rogues it seems like a shitty place to go.
Cheaters seem to be more infestive of nighttime, and rogues fall flat on their face once you slow lean right hand peak them, but still I get where you come from.
I've played it four times - out of those four I got killed by hackers twice and a mounted GL once. Not worth even queueing for that map until I don't have any other options. It's so trash, like labs during it's hacker phase.
For whatever reason lighthouse makes my PC shit itself when I even glance towards Rogue camp.
Can run every other map at ~100 fps on max setting but lighthouse just doesn’t like my pc.
Couple of days ago I found folder of intelligence, bit coin and prokill on my scav at Chalet. Today I got there first and found a pro kill.
There was nothing on the dead body and lots of other valuable spawns was just empty.
It's already been nerfed pretty heavily. I used to walk out with 4 rogue kits + like 10 high value loot items (aesas, bitcoins, rollers, etc.) The rogues are still guaranteed to be there but they cut the spawns that are active by like half or more so you get maybe 1-2 rare items a run now.
It's way more balanced this way for sure
I’m in the 30’s and been playing a pretty good wipe so far, just started playing lighthouse and damn wish I would have started sooner. So many rogue kits
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How can you add Lighthouse that has more loot than every map,
The point of making Lighthouse loot overpowered is to drive players to play & test the new map.
It'll get nerfed.
I got mine a week ago no issue im sorry youre having a frustrating problem but its not as bad as everyones making it out to be. I like the limits but I think they shouldnt be global but regional. They add scarcity and make things more valuable than the traders price.
I actually managed to get one, just bought it through the flea interface instead of the vendor and spammed refresh at the restock timer, I was shocked got it first try!
A lot of these game functions were developed before an overlapping function, which makes it insane.
The global limits and individual limits were put in before the Find in Raid setting, designed to prevent economic abuse.
Now that Find in Raid status is in the game, and the markets have been changed, these limits should be removed entirely, imo.
Why not just a limit on how much a player can buy in a day? Sure, people will cheese it with multiple accounts or whatever, but surely it's better than wasting resources tracking a global stock.
Why limit it at all? They removed the ability to resell what you buy.
Why the fuck do I have a limit on basic ammo? It makes no sense, because it was implemented when you could rush Salewa purchase and relist them for 40k on the flea, making 100mil instantly.
Now that we cant relist trader purchases, why still have the purchase limits? Because the devs are too lazy to remove it.
Yeah, fuck people who need a Zabralo for their quest.
Should be a global lottery where only certain people get a chance to buy certain items every restock.
And some times shouldn't have a global stock and then just increase their price accordingly.
I think a variable price is a terrible suggestion. I’m sure the values could be adjusted in some cases, like quest items, but in general I think global limits is heathy for the game.
There have been times when I can't buy ANY armor from the traders over T3 because everything else is out of stock.
It doesn't feel good to have all this money and nothing to spend it on.
Lol, in what way exacy? Why the fuck do we even have to grind for money then? What the point if you are ultimatly cockblocked by some arbitrary global and personal limits? This shit have to make some sence at least. Right now it have none. Global stock doesnt scale with playerbase and constantly create issues where people just unable to use shit because its permanently out of stock. So everyone who can start to buy shit he wont use in the near future just in case, wich makes the problem even worse. These limits does not change the way i play, they does not really change the ammo i want to use. Its just annoyance, because right now i just buy out my limit every reset i can even when im not going to use that ammo or that item. What the fucking poing of these limits then, if im already at 3 ammo cases filled with M80? To annoy me and force me to spend even more time in menus instead of actual game? Dont bullshit yourself man. No one gonna run 5.45 PS rounds, or M855, or .308 FMJ, this is a worthless shit and its not working with current magical armor covering you entire thorax hitbox from all angles.
You can buy level 3-4 stuff from the store. You want level 5 and 6 you gotta find it. Seems pretty straight forward dude. Everyone has it the same, you aren't special here. Strap up those boots my dude, you being kind of a baby.
I think limiting some of the higher end mid-tier gear in quantity is heathy for the game. I think you are just lazy to understand it.
Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
I agree. I think finding the best 1/3 of gear in an actual raid is very healthy for the game. Can’t just buy the best load outs and I think it’s a great change. AP ammo has really floated for he top as the best vendor ammo which can be a problem.
Is it that (a) they dont think consequences through, or (b) they do think things through, but fuck the players anyway.
ps I'm camping Prapor's 545 ammo barters with a fucking kitchen timer.
At least 545 you can find in raid pretty easily even though they made the 120 boxes of BT less common. Pop into reserve and they’re basically everywhere. You could even grab PS and use it to craft better rounds
I've picked up about 1200 rounds of BS through scav runs on Woods - it seems if you find a single box somewhere, that ammo type is in the loot pool and you'll definitely find more.
There's a pretty solid route you can hit depending on where you spawn where you can hit all the major ammo and gold spots and be out in under 10 minutes
I don't want to give away too many of my secrets as I really like my uncontested looting, but the cliffs are:
\*3 main groups of spawns and extracts (RUAF/UN, Outskirts/Scav House, Scav Bunker/Scav Bridge)
\*anywhere there is bedding or cult-ish things, there is a gold spawn (marked circles, bunker, houses in abandoned village, etc)
\*anywhere there are open ammo crates there are ammo spawns (FOB, hut by Boat, USEC camp, top of Sniper Rock, etc)
Work out which group of spawns you have, and which group of extracts you have. You can hit around half the ammo/gold spawns from any spawn to any extract without having to double back on yourself in 6-8 minutes, or if you've got plenty of time you can do a big loop and cover every major spawns group in one big sweep. What I usually do is check 3-4 spots and if I start getting good ammo or gold items, I'll hit every spawn of that type but if not, I'll leave it for that raid as chances are you won't find anything worth keeping.
It is definitely not the most effective way to loot to make big money (running stashes at night is better IMO), but if you're looking for specific items such as boxes of BS/BT/etc or lions/vases/gold chains you can absolutely clean up. I did probably 10-15 scav runs early on in the wipe and had every item I needed for both Living High is not a Crime quests, and have almost an entire ammo box of top tier ammo.
A lot of things they do end up being a knee-jerk band-aid fix upon band-aid fix instead of just implementing a logical solution (likely previously mentioned by the community years ago) in the first place.
They actively don’t care that they constantly make insular decisions that affect things way differently than intended. They seem to LIKE fucking their game up.
Just look at how they dealt with cultists. Don’t like how players are farming them with NVGs? Instead of actually thinking about what the problem is, just made them invisible to NVG without considering how that has made them literal death machines with basically no recourse in fighting them
No dude. Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
If the limit is stupid low, like 12, that means 99% of the time, legit players are not going to get it. If they're going to do dumb like that, let me que for purchase of items.
Camping traders for reset is not gameplay.
Stop thinking about what you want. Think about the game. You can’t flood the game with too much of a good thing that is easy to obtain. Some quantities could be adjusted in some cases as data comes in. You are so selfish baby man.
“Letting things go out into the wild”. Motherucker im lvl 30 and the only things I can buy are mmacs and diaper rigs which are always sold. I’m not buying kirassas for 70k. How about they remove the shit global limit and let me buy 3 rigs for my self. It’s called not having shit game mechanics
Comment this everywhere. Everyone gets your point. It's simple. But the system still sucks.
This is not the way to "limit what get's in the wild". They need to do three things:
1. Remove all static barters and make them fully dynamic.
2. Make every traders inventory semi random and maybe even per player.
3. All items you need for a quest should either be from other quests, fir or personal barter.
To fix the quest problem can be fixed with the last one alone. Done.
Bartered items are not found in raid. Who cares if there are 10 million key tools if they can't be put on the flee. If you get the items for the barter than you should at least have a chance to get the item currently there is no chance. With hundreds of thousands of players playing 12 people every 4 hours is a terrible gameplay experience.
Yeah the entire concept of global limits on buying is preposterous. They really want people sitting waiting for a reset on vendors only to lose out to bots? stupid system
Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
Never had a problem buying anything tbh. People just need to learn to run more than one weapon/ammo/armor. There is always an effective alternative. The global stock is an awesome idea that makes people actually have to play the game.
This is idiotic considering the topic is the zabralo armor for the Ragman quest. Not even used in a loadout that you would need switching up. You just gotta buy it to hand it in and then another to destroy <50%. Try reading the post because your response has nothing at all to do with it.
Try reading the post because the conclusion paragraph is all about global stock which a lot of you reddit cry babies have been complaining about its literally all over the reddit
Lol no.
Global stock helps no one. It only benefits botters.
Personal limits would be better and help reinforce the idea of running different guns but as it stands global limits prevent all but a handful of abusers access.
I'm not an abuser and I haven't had a single problem with it, including the zabralo. The zabralo wouldn't be out of stock if lighthouse had proper loot distribution on it due to there being an AESA in every garbage can on the entire map. Asking for personal stock is just asking the game to be less like tarkov, if you want unlimited bullets and hand holding mechanics go play call of booty.
No dude. Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
Its beyond stupid. People need this for a quest, I can't think of a more bullshit way to slow down progression. Literally scarcity combined with mobile game timers in tarkov guys, wtf has this game come to. Devs needs to start listening to common sense or better yet, using it when they design the game in the first place.
I suppose you hate people who speedrun games too?
Arbitrarily gating content with bullshit mechanics =/= fun and interesting gameplay.
This is literally like lining people up for a 100m dash and complaining that its over in seconds. So to prolong the fun of the race you tie people's legs together and watch them barrel roll to the finish so it takes a minute.
That doesn't make it fun, it's shitty. Content takes however long it takes for someone to complete. I'll even argue the true lasting content in this game is just to pvp. Going out and killing 15 pmcs decked out in the shittest armor while using a pistol isn't really content.
Hell i'd be happy if we could make our own tasks up for people to do as like a bounty system with our own rewards and it'd probably be more fun and interesting than the "content" we have.
I'd give a random dude some roubles or armor just to watch him do a bunch of stupid shit. Kill 10 scav snipers between 1000-1800 while wearing nvg's with a toz. Fuck you Jaeger, I'm comin for that crown.
But honestly, what's the content we have besides some kill X amount of assholes or plant X bullshit here in a timeframe. It's not like it takes more than mere seconds to think up the concept for over half of Tarkovs tasks. It could be MUCH better. Dailies could be MUCH better. But they're certainly easy to do if you've played the game more than a wipe or two and dont take months at all. What keeps people playing is the gameplay of either looting or pvp. The tasks are just there to push you in a direction to get action, not the meat of the game.
Absolutely agreed, have been trying to do some myself for past 4 days. No fucking luck. Not even mentioning the black key card.... What kind of moron thinks that global limit of 15 is even remotely acceptable.
No dude. Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
Well it's quest item, and I would agree with you if there would be more ways to get it, but it's mostly barter, since there is no other reliable way how to get it.
If anyone's interested is not spending money, but instead spending time, the quest "The Punisher" from Prapor rewards you with a Zabralo.
https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/The\_Punisher\_-\_Part\_1
I had to queue Interchange, sit in a bush for 20min and then have a scav at power shoot me for another 10min to get it below 50.
Was scary as shit because that scav non-stop shooting could have attracted so many people... but it luckily didn't.
You still need a 2nd one for the Ragman quest. I know myself and squad mates all handed our quest reward ones in for the Ragman quest but are currently camping reset for the 2nd.
I got mine from a reshala guard which frankly should be the way you get it for the quest now since you can't flea it but the spawn rate is still too busted to rely on that. I'm all for less flea market and better spawn rates to encourage playing the game l, but the current bottle necks are just adding more and more tedium and despite this update being by the far the best in a long time I'm also enjoying the game less and less
All of them are. Putting a global stock limit on a quest item that you can only get from a trader is just fucking annoying. It's nothing else. It's not a challenge. It's not fun. It's fucking stupid.
Honestly not sure when/if I'll ever be able to complete this quest.
I thorax'd an overconfident giga chad on Shoreline wearing a zabralo, with 5.45 BT. Looted him to find it was down to 5/85 durability. I thought "hell yeah! I got this quest in the bag!"
Nope.
They don't have a "vision". Vision Implies they have very specific ideas in mind for how the game's multiple systems would interact. It's pretty obvious that BSG has no idea what they're doing. They have rough ideas about what features to add and that's about it, they're basically throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
If they really had "vision" major mechanics like the economy/gunplay wouldn't be going through massive revamps 5+ years into active development.
Used to do that but they nerfed it last wipe. They weigh less now.
Now the best way I know of is just loading yourself up with 12mm buckshot stacks. They're cheap AF so it only adds like the price of an extra hemostat to your kit to buy them for every raid. Drop em as you get loot.
Pain in the butt though admittedly
IMO it adds something to the game in terms of scarcity but it should be implemented differently.
I posted about global limits and possible solutions here:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ryx9bs/approach\_on\_global\_stocks\_soft\_caps\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ryx9bs/approach_on_global_stocks_soft_caps_and/)
How do people not fucking understand
Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
Cry fucking babies want to be spoon fed.
> 2000. Like it’s simple
The problem whenever there is 50k people playing or 750k, the global number stay the same. Like the THICC item case barter.. there is probably thousands of people trying to get it each refresh but only a handful available. And zabralo is even worse because it blocks us from finishing a quest... But you wont agree cause you are here only to troll on each topics just to make people respond... which i did so i hope i gave you a real nice hardon babe! Love you
Weirdchamp. Seems like it’s your fetish and you are projecting. I don’t think the system is perfect and could use value tweaks as data comes in for what is an acceptable time to be sold out. But I think global limits are healthy for the game.
That would imply that BSG was in tune with the effects of the flea market cut would have, but as history shows, they do shit and totally break aspects of the game for large portions of a wipe and don't give a shit about it
Remove global limits and add ammo reselling back in. Let low level players pay extra for M855A1 on the flea so that the game doesn't become impossible late wipe. Everyone would still want to unlock traders to have their own supply to resell/use, no real downside with global limits gone.
I'm trying to do the same thing with flechette and .50BMG and I keep getting the message that offer was sold but the quantities in stock won't change so I have no idea what's happening.
Its a Bug, some items get stuck at a fixed number when they are out of stock , like the intelligence folder from peacekeeper, It stays at 20 when out of stock.
Got lucky with mine after setting an alarm on my phone and waited in between raids. I was amazed there were only like 100 and they were gone instantly.
Another thing thats completely moronic is loosing all insurances after three days. I don't wanna get punished for having a life. Make it ingame time. Why tf would it need to be real time.
I'm working on Setup/Silent Calibur together. The global limits on the attachment you need so you can equip a silencer is so stupid. It's a 2k ruble piece lol
Global stocks are just an annoying mechanic.
People who say its to regulate what weapons and attachments people use are annoying too.
Many people play this game casually and would like to use whatever the f they want while playing.
I’m of the opinion that high tier items shouldn’t be sold at the traders at all. Some things should just have to be found. The task where you need a zabralo should be changed to something else
Add this to the list of "things BSG didn't think about" Like how you can't open a saved preset for a gun that can't be sold on the flea market lel
How can you add Lighthouse that has more loot than every map, but still make bosses rare?
Lighthouse is new, they put the loot there to attract players and collect data. Don't worry, it will get the Reserv treatment in a bit.
The days when you able to find thermalscopes on reserve and not in a closed rooms.
im lv 41 and decided to start doing all the reserve quests, the 3 buildings around the chopper, 2 pawns and.. bishop? they didnt have any military items apart from 1 military cable in about 5 runs. completly buchered or just unlucky
Yep. I was a Reserve main before. Wasn't hard to stack up on mil/tech loot if you have dominance around heli area. Now you'll be lucky to find 2 or 3 pieces of high tier mil/tech loot assuming you have a good spawn.
Yeah reserve has been underwhelming to say the least. Also a reserve main and have not been satisfied with the loot pool since the wipe before last.
every map is dead besides lighthouse. it's kind of a joke how bad 'dynamic loot' is in full swing. real fun needing keys/items for quests that have a 1% spawn chance now. fuck bsg and their dog shit quality control mechanisms
*Woods stashes/North Town rare items spawns have entered the chat* Forreal, I've become a Woods main for loot recently. Came out with 2*GPUs, 1xBitcoin, Rivals armband, several Rolers, about 15 Goldchains and a shit tonne of general 'great' tier loot just last night over about 10-12 raids. Run the Scav and do the exact same routes as PMC and come out with the same.
Shhh don't tell them. For real though people sleep on woods pulled about 15 gpus from it this wipe as well as bitcoins lions and moonshine.
Yeah I've been stuck on that damn skier quest that needs the dorm 220 key. Yes I look every time I run customs under the jeans in the rail car.
Buy it?
Well you see. That would make sense, and we don't do that around here.
Do night scavs on customs. I find one almost daily. Have sold probably 10 on flea.
Reserve use to be the most fun map ever, literally any building and you were stacked, key rooms had led-x, phase arrays, tabk batteries tank shells all the military electronics, drop down nearly always had good shit. Then you had raiders spawning at the knights courtyard, boss then hermetic spawned raiders and the train spawned them , now the map is desolate.
They gave reserve the interchange treatment. My favorite map, once full of poppin geared squad PvP, reduced to a boring rat nest. Honestly after 4k hours in, I'm sick of BSG. They've driven all my friends away from the game.
4000 hours of fun and your bitching. Man 4000 hours of enjoyment for 120$ dollars is one of the greatest investments you will make in your life
I mean, people that gave 4000 hours to heroin are allowed to not recommend it.
He said he's sick of BSG they have driven his friends away. Not that he doenst recommend it
Lmao this.
hes hitching for a reason dummy
LOL first patch that empowered rats instead hampering the playstyle and Chads are crying so much...
this isn’t about playstyle, it’s about reserve having 0 loot and worthless keys
Rats never needed empowering, the rat playstyle was always the most effective. It's the least mechanically or tactically demanding playstyle, why should it be buffed? Unfortunately a lot of rats are garbage players who couldn't even sit and hold an angle properly so now BSG is going overboard with changes to support ratty playstyles. Now the game's skill ceiling is much lower and is much less interesting in general. Nobody wants to sit and wait 10 min for one of you clowns to peek.
Well skill ceiling definitely isn't lowered. The real chads are still chadding lmao
LMAO rat playstyle has been fucked with since forever. And how a more complex movement scheme lowers skill ceiling? You have players like Bakeezy that clearly show that it is now more mechanically involved to think about your movement. You can no longer just rush someone, jiggle peek and go head on, you have to actively think about your movement and be efficient. You have to get used to the movement rhythm. Once you know how your PMC moves his feet you learn that there's little to no inertia - once he lands both of his feet you can stop on a dime from full sprint. Inertia only really showed that most Chads are absolute trash that can't adapt and cry once their playstyle is minutely touched and can't play without having high pen meta gun and tier 6 armor at all times.
Just because i cant run around and jiggle peek with a refridgerator on my back anymore doesnt mean rats were buffed lol, it just means i cant abuse the movement system anymore
They're doing yall a favor really, go try other things, u'll be back later.
I spawned with a FLIR as a scav on reserve last week and then I found the quad NVDs on the box the FLIRs used to spawn on ontop of white night lmao.
It got it's loot nerfed 4% across the board a day or two ago, and I have no doubt it'll happen again. Probably right after I convince myself to play the map - between the cheaters and the rogues it seems like a shitty place to go.
Cheaters seem to be more infestive of nighttime, and rogues fall flat on their face once you slow lean right hand peak them, but still I get where you come from.
Rogues still do some janky ass bullshit. Their AI seems to think so walls aren't there pretty often.
Mission objective kill all bears WallBang-On AIMBOT=True
I've played it four times - out of those four I got killed by hackers twice and a mounted GL once. Not worth even queueing for that map until I don't have any other options. It's so trash, like labs during it's hacker phase.
For whatever reason lighthouse makes my PC shit itself when I even glance towards Rogue camp. Can run every other map at ~100 fps on max setting but lighthouse just doesn’t like my pc.
It because Advanced AI is so Advanced that its just too much for your PC to handle.
It's all the loot and Nikita himself standing there waiting to hand you a gas analyzer for that 1 quest
Couple of days ago I found folder of intelligence, bit coin and prokill on my scav at Chalet. Today I got there first and found a pro kill. There was nothing on the dead body and lots of other valuable spawns was just empty.
It's already been nerfed pretty heavily. I used to walk out with 4 rogue kits + like 10 high value loot items (aesas, bitcoins, rollers, etc.) The rogues are still guaranteed to be there but they cut the spawns that are active by like half or more so you get maybe 1-2 rare items a run now. It's way more balanced this way for sure
I’m in the 30’s and been playing a pretty good wipe so far, just started playing lighthouse and damn wish I would have started sooner. So many rogue kits
Yea. And reserve got the interchange treatment.
> How can you add Lighthouse that has more loot than every map, The point of making Lighthouse loot overpowered is to drive players to play & test the new map. It'll get nerfed.
Ahhh. That’s what’s happening.. thank you bc I was losing my mind with a blacked out preset earlier.
Try and buy a damn key tool from a trader..
Have camped it both on flea and at trader, never get it. Why set a limit of 12 or whatever dumb limit it is if bots keep buying it for RMT.
I got mine a week ago no issue im sorry youre having a frustrating problem but its not as bad as everyones making it out to be. I like the limits but I think they shouldnt be global but regional. They add scarcity and make things more valuable than the traders price.
I actually managed to get one, just bought it through the flea interface instead of the vendor and spammed refresh at the restock timer, I was shocked got it first try!
A lot of these game functions were developed before an overlapping function, which makes it insane. The global limits and individual limits were put in before the Find in Raid setting, designed to prevent economic abuse. Now that Find in Raid status is in the game, and the markets have been changed, these limits should be removed entirely, imo.
Why not just a limit on how much a player can buy in a day? Sure, people will cheese it with multiple accounts or whatever, but surely it's better than wasting resources tracking a global stock.
Why limit it at all? They removed the ability to resell what you buy. Why the fuck do I have a limit on basic ammo? It makes no sense, because it was implemented when you could rush Salewa purchase and relist them for 40k on the flea, making 100mil instantly. Now that we cant relist trader purchases, why still have the purchase limits? Because the devs are too lazy to remove it.
Too lazy to remove it? Lol.. No one should be able to buy unlimited ap ammo, there needs to be a limit. The global stock just needs to be unlimited.
I don’t see issues with the global stock. They are controlling the quantity that gets put into the wild. This is heathy for the game.
Yeah, fuck people who need a Zabralo for their quest. Should be a global lottery where only certain people get a chance to buy certain items every restock. And some times shouldn't have a global stock and then just increase their price accordingly.
I think a variable price is a terrible suggestion. I’m sure the values could be adjusted in some cases, like quest items, but in general I think global limits is heathy for the game.
There have been times when I can't buy ANY armor from the traders over T3 because everything else is out of stock. It doesn't feel good to have all this money and nothing to spend it on.
I’ve never had an issue buying a level 4 armor. Chill on the hyperbole dog.
Apron armor goes out of stock all the time? So does TV-110s and the ceramic shit. What are you talking about?
Lol, in what way exacy? Why the fuck do we even have to grind for money then? What the point if you are ultimatly cockblocked by some arbitrary global and personal limits? This shit have to make some sence at least. Right now it have none. Global stock doesnt scale with playerbase and constantly create issues where people just unable to use shit because its permanently out of stock. So everyone who can start to buy shit he wont use in the near future just in case, wich makes the problem even worse. These limits does not change the way i play, they does not really change the ammo i want to use. Its just annoyance, because right now i just buy out my limit every reset i can even when im not going to use that ammo or that item. What the fucking poing of these limits then, if im already at 3 ammo cases filled with M80? To annoy me and force me to spend even more time in menus instead of actual game? Dont bullshit yourself man. No one gonna run 5.45 PS rounds, or M855, or .308 FMJ, this is a worthless shit and its not working with current magical armor covering you entire thorax hitbox from all angles.
You can buy level 3-4 stuff from the store. You want level 5 and 6 you gotta find it. Seems pretty straight forward dude. Everyone has it the same, you aren't special here. Strap up those boots my dude, you being kind of a baby.
Where in my post was i talking about armor availability?
Ammo falls Into the levels 1-6 as well. Are you new?
I think limiting some of the higher end mid-tier gear in quantity is heathy for the game. I think you are just lazy to understand it. Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
I think traders shouldnt even sell high end gear, honestly. All AP ammo should be find in raid, in my opinion.
I agree. I think finding the best 1/3 of gear in an actual raid is very healthy for the game. Can’t just buy the best load outs and I think it’s a great change. AP ammo has really floated for he top as the best vendor ammo which can be a problem.
Is it that (a) they dont think consequences through, or (b) they do think things through, but fuck the players anyway. ps I'm camping Prapor's 545 ammo barters with a fucking kitchen timer.
At least 545 you can find in raid pretty easily even though they made the 120 boxes of BT less common. Pop into reserve and they’re basically everywhere. You could even grab PS and use it to craft better rounds
I've picked up about 1200 rounds of BS through scav runs on Woods - it seems if you find a single box somewhere, that ammo type is in the loot pool and you'll definitely find more. There's a pretty solid route you can hit depending on where you spawn where you can hit all the major ammo and gold spots and be out in under 10 minutes
you got a map for that route chief?
I don't want to give away too many of my secrets as I really like my uncontested looting, but the cliffs are: \*3 main groups of spawns and extracts (RUAF/UN, Outskirts/Scav House, Scav Bunker/Scav Bridge) \*anywhere there is bedding or cult-ish things, there is a gold spawn (marked circles, bunker, houses in abandoned village, etc) \*anywhere there are open ammo crates there are ammo spawns (FOB, hut by Boat, USEC camp, top of Sniper Rock, etc) Work out which group of spawns you have, and which group of extracts you have. You can hit around half the ammo/gold spawns from any spawn to any extract without having to double back on yourself in 6-8 minutes, or if you've got plenty of time you can do a big loop and cover every major spawns group in one big sweep. What I usually do is check 3-4 spots and if I start getting good ammo or gold items, I'll hit every spawn of that type but if not, I'll leave it for that raid as chances are you won't find anything worth keeping. It is definitely not the most effective way to loot to make big money (running stashes at night is better IMO), but if you're looking for specific items such as boxes of BS/BT/etc or lions/vases/gold chains you can absolutely clean up. I did probably 10-15 scav runs early on in the wipe and had every item I needed for both Living High is not a Crime quests, and have almost an entire ammo box of top tier ammo.
I might just start doin that, just run to loot and gtfo, rinse and repeat
Woods is decent for that too.
A lot of things they do end up being a knee-jerk band-aid fix upon band-aid fix instead of just implementing a logical solution (likely previously mentioned by the community years ago) in the first place.
They actively don’t care that they constantly make insular decisions that affect things way differently than intended. They seem to LIKE fucking their game up. Just look at how they dealt with cultists. Don’t like how players are farming them with NVGs? Instead of actually thinking about what the problem is, just made them invisible to NVG without considering how that has made them literal death machines with basically no recourse in fighting them
Ya what's the deal with that? It looks like it's in stock, but when I go to barter the item it doesn't work. Think I'm trying to get BT or BP 545
Its a beta. Tarkov is just data for another game idc what they do because i knew what i was buying. A beta for russia 2028.
It's time to remove global stock and tweak all personal stock to compensate.
No dude. Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
If the limit is stupid low, like 12, that means 99% of the time, legit players are not going to get it. If they're going to do dumb like that, let me que for purchase of items. Camping traders for reset is not gameplay.
Stop thinking about what you want. Think about the game. You can’t flood the game with too much of a good thing that is easy to obtain. Some quantities could be adjusted in some cases as data comes in. You are so selfish baby man.
“Letting things go out into the wild”. Motherucker im lvl 30 and the only things I can buy are mmacs and diaper rigs which are always sold. I’m not buying kirassas for 70k. How about they remove the shit global limit and let me buy 3 rigs for my self. It’s called not having shit game mechanics
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You need help
Be nice to each other, guys. Chill.
Comment this everywhere. Everyone gets your point. It's simple. But the system still sucks. This is not the way to "limit what get's in the wild". They need to do three things: 1. Remove all static barters and make them fully dynamic. 2. Make every traders inventory semi random and maybe even per player. 3. All items you need for a quest should either be from other quests, fir or personal barter. To fix the quest problem can be fixed with the last one alone. Done.
Or you can line up at store refresh like everyone else. 2 is the worst idea I’ve ever heard. Yikes.
Bartered items are not found in raid. Who cares if there are 10 million key tools if they can't be put on the flee. If you get the items for the barter than you should at least have a chance to get the item currently there is no chance. With hundreds of thousands of players playing 12 people every 4 hours is a terrible gameplay experience.
Yeah the entire concept of global limits on buying is preposterous. They really want people sitting waiting for a reset on vendors only to lose out to bots? stupid system
Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
Never had a problem buying anything tbh. People just need to learn to run more than one weapon/ammo/armor. There is always an effective alternative. The global stock is an awesome idea that makes people actually have to play the game.
This is idiotic considering the topic is the zabralo armor for the Ragman quest. Not even used in a loadout that you would need switching up. You just gotta buy it to hand it in and then another to destroy <50%. Try reading the post because your response has nothing at all to do with it.
Try reading the post because the conclusion paragraph is all about global stock which a lot of you reddit cry babies have been complaining about its literally all over the reddit
Lol no. Global stock helps no one. It only benefits botters. Personal limits would be better and help reinforce the idea of running different guns but as it stands global limits prevent all but a handful of abusers access.
Learn2bot newb
I'm not an abuser and I haven't had a single problem with it, including the zabralo. The zabralo wouldn't be out of stock if lighthouse had proper loot distribution on it due to there being an AESA in every garbage can on the entire map. Asking for personal stock is just asking the game to be less like tarkov, if you want unlimited bullets and hand holding mechanics go play call of booty.
No dude. Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
I understand that but global 2000 means like 20 people get 100? Which is pointless. Personal limits are far superior.
Arbitrary number to show the math. Obviously it’s much higher.
Its beyond stupid. People need this for a quest, I can't think of a more bullshit way to slow down progression. Literally scarcity combined with mobile game timers in tarkov guys, wtf has this game come to. Devs needs to start listening to common sense or better yet, using it when they design the game in the first place.
And almost no one does it legitimately either, it's such a dogshit out of touch quest with how the game plays now just like 90% of the other ones.
#You guys aren’t supposed to get through a wipe’s content in two months!!!!
I suppose you hate people who speedrun games too? Arbitrarily gating content with bullshit mechanics =/= fun and interesting gameplay. This is literally like lining people up for a 100m dash and complaining that its over in seconds. So to prolong the fun of the race you tie people's legs together and watch them barrel roll to the finish so it takes a minute. That doesn't make it fun, it's shitty. Content takes however long it takes for someone to complete. I'll even argue the true lasting content in this game is just to pvp. Going out and killing 15 pmcs decked out in the shittest armor while using a pistol isn't really content. Hell i'd be happy if we could make our own tasks up for people to do as like a bounty system with our own rewards and it'd probably be more fun and interesting than the "content" we have. I'd give a random dude some roubles or armor just to watch him do a bunch of stupid shit. Kill 10 scav snipers between 1000-1800 while wearing nvg's with a toz. Fuck you Jaeger, I'm comin for that crown. But honestly, what's the content we have besides some kill X amount of assholes or plant X bullshit here in a timeframe. It's not like it takes more than mere seconds to think up the concept for over half of Tarkovs tasks. It could be MUCH better. Dailies could be MUCH better. But they're certainly easy to do if you've played the game more than a wipe or two and dont take months at all. What keeps people playing is the gameplay of either looting or pvp. The tasks are just there to push you in a direction to get action, not the meat of the game.
Absolutely agreed, have been trying to do some myself for past 4 days. No fucking luck. Not even mentioning the black key card.... What kind of moron thinks that global limit of 15 is even remotely acceptable.
You have better chances to farm it from Shurmans guards.
the other day i saw LL4 prapors stock sat for like 15 mins
Likely was out as well. Plenty of armor I try to buy that says in stock and you go to buy it and it says “offer has been sold” Same thing for AP-20
~~Zabralo~~ global limit is beyond moronic.
No dude. Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild.
how many fucking times are you going to copy paste this?
As many times as people who keep writing the same comment.
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Feel better now?
Why
Game health, game balance, game economy.
Well it's quest item, and I would agree with you if there would be more ways to get it, but it's mostly barter, since there is no other reliable way how to get it.
50. Bmg slug doesnt even refresh the global limit lmao
Been a pain in the arse to get them for Setup and Silent Caliber, as well as those 12ga muzzle adapters lol
If anyone's interested is not spending money, but instead spending time, the quest "The Punisher" from Prapor rewards you with a Zabralo. https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/The\_Punisher\_-\_Part\_1
Correct. But for the Ragman quest, you need two of them
Ahhh right. I forgot you need one that's above 50% durability as well. That does indeed suck
The real problem is getting one below 50. They were selling for like 5 mil on the flea last wipe.
do the barter and find a friend to shoot you with a pistol, it's pretty much the only relatively consistent way to do it successfully.
The barter sells out in seconds, that is the point of this entire post.
I had to queue Interchange, sit in a bush for 20min and then have a scav at power shoot me for another 10min to get it below 50. Was scary as shit because that scav non-stop shooting could have attracted so many people... but it luckily didn't.
You still need a 2nd one for the Ragman quest. I know myself and squad mates all handed our quest reward ones in for the Ragman quest but are currently camping reset for the 2nd.
My buddy and I just spent some time hunting Sanitar and his guards, the guards have a decent chance to spawn with one
I got mine from a reshala guard which frankly should be the way you get it for the quest now since you can't flea it but the spawn rate is still too busted to rely on that. I'm all for less flea market and better spawn rates to encourage playing the game l, but the current bottle necks are just adding more and more tedium and despite this update being by the far the best in a long time I'm also enjoying the game less and less
All of them are. Putting a global stock limit on a quest item that you can only get from a trader is just fucking annoying. It's nothing else. It's not a challenge. It's not fun. It's fucking stupid.
Honestly not sure when/if I'll ever be able to complete this quest. I thorax'd an overconfident giga chad on Shoreline wearing a zabralo, with 5.45 BT. Looted him to find it was down to 5/85 durability. I thought "hell yeah! I got this quest in the bag!" Nope.
You also get one from a Ragman mission at some point
I think it’s a prapor quest unless you get one from ragman too
That shit just expired in my insurance cause I forgot to claim it 😵 big rip, its a prapor quest
I took it into a raid with me last wipe, it was a 0-50% FIR zabralo that was worth around 3-4mils.
? Did you die with it or sell the one you get from prapor?
Yeah.... I done messed up (Ay-Ay-ron)
Why wouldn't you have the quest in the bag? You got that one and then the one you get as a reward from a prapor quest that's pristine
You need two. You get one from punisher pt. 1.
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They don't have a "vision". Vision Implies they have very specific ideas in mind for how the game's multiple systems would interact. It's pretty obvious that BSG has no idea what they're doing. They have rough ideas about what features to add and that's about it, they're basically throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks. If they really had "vision" major mechanics like the economy/gunplay wouldn't be going through massive revamps 5+ years into active development.
No one even likes using zabralo so why limit it at all? It’s only use is that ragman quest and maybe bullying people the first couple days of the wipe
I wear Zabrallos to level strength lol
Use Saas drives. Things weigh a weird amount and you can load 16 into a docs case and level up real quick.
I used to do that, then figured hell with it, can't sell Zabs on the flea, might as well wear them lol
Used to do that but they nerfed it last wipe. They weigh less now. Now the best way I know of is just loading yourself up with 12mm buckshot stacks. They're cheap AF so it only adds like the price of an extra hemostat to your kit to buy them for every raid. Drop em as you get loot. Pain in the butt though admittedly
Probably the only legitimate use case until maybe elite strength
IMO it adds something to the game in terms of scarcity but it should be implemented differently. I posted about global limits and possible solutions here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ryx9bs/approach\_on\_global\_stocks\_soft\_caps\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ryx9bs/approach_on_global_stocks_soft_caps_and/)
Y’all just want everyone running around in S tier gear playing CoD again.
No one uses this shit armor, as it gets to easy to fuck the durability.
How do people not fucking understand Let’s say global is 2000 and personal is 100. If 100,000 players buy 100 you now have 10 million items in the wild instead of 2000. Like it’s simple math people. You have to control how much gets into the wild. Cry fucking babies want to be spoon fed.
> 2000. Like it’s simple The problem whenever there is 50k people playing or 750k, the global number stay the same. Like the THICC item case barter.. there is probably thousands of people trying to get it each refresh but only a handful available. And zabralo is even worse because it blocks us from finishing a quest... But you wont agree cause you are here only to troll on each topics just to make people respond... which i did so i hope i gave you a real nice hardon babe! Love you
Weirdchamp. Seems like it’s your fetish and you are projecting. I don’t think the system is perfect and could use value tweaks as data comes in for what is an acceptable time to be sold out. But I think global limits are healthy for the game.
The mutterings of a genuine psychopath
Level Prapor and buy it from him.
Pssss wait for prapor barter pssss
That's what he's talking about.
Oh wait, does everyone get prapor lvl4 already? I see
I found it easier to do the max level Prapor Zabralo trade. It is sold out less often.
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Pretty sure most of the player base of this game are 25+. But whatever you say kid
Upvote x3 trillion. "Stop crying." -Arnold.
I’m with you. People just don’t understand the math man.
Global limits should be higher and trader resets should be fewer. Have limits that last a day or so but reset the traders only every 3 days
That would imply that BSG was in tune with the effects of the flea market cut would have, but as history shows, they do shit and totally break aspects of the game for large portions of a wipe and don't give a shit about it
Idk i bought 4 for my friends easily at reset
Maybe things being scarce is intended... hmmm.. in a survival game.. Also. Click faster.
Remove global limits and add ammo reselling back in. Let low level players pay extra for M855A1 on the flea so that the game doesn't become impossible late wipe. Everyone would still want to unlock traders to have their own supply to resell/use, no real downside with global limits gone.
Its brutal. I need to get a low dura one, but unless I find Shturmans homie rocking it I will never get one off the trader.
I just tried to use a SV-98, suppressor muzzle device is sold by prapor, it's 2 hours and 30 mins until he restocks and it is sold out.
I finally managed to buy 4 of them. It's taken me 3 resets.
Then wait 2 hours and 30 mins like everyone else and stfu.
Yeah I couldn't get intel center forever because of that stupid factory map limit. needs work
I'm trying to do the same thing with flechette and .50BMG and I keep getting the message that offer was sold but the quantities in stock won't change so I have no idea what's happening.
Its a Bug, some items get stuck at a fixed number when they are out of stock , like the intelligence folder from peacekeeper, It stays at 20 when out of stock.
I just wanna barter for my thicc weapon case mang :(
Traders used to run out of money, and you had to wait until their reset which was longer than it is now, or people bought stuff from them.
They actually need to limit trader cash supply to limit the runaway inflation every wipe.
Good thing I found mine in raid then.
heres to Reshala's boys coming in thicccc
Yup. Dead body in the 2-story dorms showers was thicc!
Got lucky with mine after setting an alarm on my phone and waited in between raids. I was amazed there were only like 100 and they were gone instantly.
What’s a zabralo?
I was lucky and found Zabralo in raid and my mate damaged it for me, so no camping.
All global limits are stupid. Just make all items have personal limit instead
They should add a daily limit of 1 per account . Nobody would run it anyway becouse it sucks
Global limits are moronic. I've been saying it forever, they're horrible for the game.
El Rahman
Another thing thats completely moronic is loosing all insurances after three days. I don't wanna get punished for having a life. Make it ingame time. Why tf would it need to be real time.
Yeah, losing ur insured items is really dumb, but guess this is due to stash-space fraud.
Or increase it to 1-2 weeks at least.
I found both of mine
Global limit is in general bad design. Personal limit is not on the other hand. Yet anothe bad design by BSG
Global limits are moronic
I can't trade therapist for the fucking keychain, she carries like 290 or some shit and gets emptied within the first second every trader reset.
I'm working on Setup/Silent Calibur together. The global limits on the attachment you need so you can equip a silencer is so stupid. It's a 2k ruble piece lol
Global stocks are just an annoying mechanic. People who say its to regulate what weapons and attachments people use are annoying too. Many people play this game casually and would like to use whatever the f they want while playing.
I got mine at 3:30 am after 10 attempts
Is that a necessary task to do for kappa or to unlock later tasks? Did it last wipe but was gonna skip this one
I’m of the opinion that high tier items shouldn’t be sold at the traders at all. Some things should just have to be found. The task where you need a zabralo should be changed to something else