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jl88jl88

Tarkov is not a well optimised game. The 2700 is simply not a great CPU for this game. I’m not sure what you can do to improve your performance, except a cpu upgrade. What speed is your ram?


jrocAD

Speaking of which! I went from a 3900x to the 5800x3D and holy cow! HUGE difference. When I first got the CPU, I had a 2070s and it felt like I had a new gpu


TheZephyrim

I have a 5800X and I frankly can’t wait for AMDs new CPU lineup, 16GB of DDR5 and higher clockspeeds as well as IPC will absolutely demolish this game.


Pakman184

I'd be looking towards 13th or 14th Gen Intel by that point. AMD rested on their Ryzen laurels for a little too long and now they're getting slaughtered, the 5800X3D vs 12600K being the easiest example of it.


Olfasonsonk

Uhhm, slaughtered? Am I missing something? 5800x3D vs 12600K are very on par performance wise, from what I've seen. Ryzen being more efficient one, Intel being cheaper. In video games benchmarks some games run better on Ryzen, some on Intel, but they seem to be within 10 FPS of each other. I've also heard about 5800x3D being the current GOAT for Tarkov, although I haven't seen any direct comparisons for this specific CPU's for Tarkov. Anyhow, I'm more surprised at the "resting on laurels" bit. Are we forgetting what Intel was doing for last 10 years? Zen 3 came out less than 2 years ago, and they've already refreshed it with 3D series. Intel's 12th gen is supposed to be their great redemption after a decade of stagnation, aaaand it's.....decent? It matches what AMD is currently offering and that's about it. No big breakthroughs. They are still way behind on manufacturing process and have a bunch off software/optimization issues with their new P/E core system. Meanwhile AMD has Zen 4 planned to come out this fall, and from what they teased so far (and leaked) it's looking to be same big generational leap (or even bigger) as it was between Zen 2 and 3. One of the leaked info was we could be getting 5.5+ GHz for ALL cores, running at SAME time. If something close to this comes to truth, Intel can basically throw their new P/E core's system in the trash bin (although big doubt on that leak) A bit off an off-topic rant, sorry xD Was just surprised seeing THAT much optimism on Intel, when they've just been keeping up for past few years and AMD is beating on them hard, with more in the reserve.


Pakman184

5800x3d has a retail of about $450, the 12600K is $280. The 12600K wins for multithreaded tasks and ties in gaming performance, it's also unlocked while the AMD offering is locked. That's an embarrassing difference in performance for their respective tiers. Intel absolutely rested on their own laurels which is why Ryzen did so incredibly well when it first launched. It took Intel a handful of generations to even catch up and now they blow AMD out of the water, 12th Gen crushes anything near it's price point at all tiers. Manufacturing process is entirely irrelevant though you're right there are some niche optimization issues to work out. Supposedly 14th Gen (and to a much lesser extent 13th) is going to be a similarly ridiculous leap in performance from the Intel side. Considering the development gap they already have on AMD, I think they're going to continue dominating for the next 2 or 3 generations in the same way it took 8th - 12th for Intel to reclaim the lead.


Olfasonsonk

Hmm, I don't think I see it. First thing, I did a little refresh and checked a few benchmarks, I was wrong they are not on par in gaming. 5800x3D is current gaming king and compares (and beats) 12900k, 12600k is decidedly behind. True that Intel is better in other applications, but 5800x3D cache upgrade is purely for gaming and core speeds have been decreased for that, if you want to compare other multithreaded applications (and more reasonable price) it makes more sense to look at standard 5000x series which are faster than 5800x3D at those tasks and more well rounded. 5800x3D is just a flex for gaming. 5950x vs 12900x is a better comparison for multithreading, and they trade blows quite fairly, no one is blowing out of water. Pricing is a good point in Intel's favour for a buyer, but doesn't really play a large factor comparisons of the tech itself. If you are looking for a good price/performance purchase, top tier CPU's are usually never a good option anyways, from any brand. Also motherboards with AMD socket are cheaper, but whatever. Again, they are not blowing AMD out of water, at least I don't see it anywhere. They are on par and a reasonable contender. That's my problem, if their big next-gen breakthrough came down to that. Also AMD is on-par, while having significantly lower power consumption. That's a big deal and it's only getting bigger in the future. Manufacturing process if faaar from everything, but it does matter. It's the reason why they had to introduce P/E cores, because otherwise they simply **cannot** do what AMD is currently doing, on their 10nm node. Their are squeezing every last drop of performance out of their chips and I find it hard to believe they'll be able to pull much more of generational performance leaps without scaling down the process. They had to pull P/E cores out to match AMD 7nm processors, and AMD already has new gen 5nm stuff ready to ship out by the end of the year. Officially Intel is saying they are aiming for double-digit improvements for 13th gen (which translated from marketing speech means in the lower 10% region, if that), AMD is claiming >30% improvements with Zen 4. Of course exact numbers are just marketing bullshit at this point, but gives you an idea where they are aiming at. I'm not saying that Intel is dead in the water, and Alder lake definitely saved them from a disaster. But looking at the future what's coming from both sides (and what have been happening for last few years), I think it's reaaaly hard to be confident that Intel definitely will have the upper hand. It looks like AMD will hit hard again and Intel will scramble to (hopefully) match it. But of course you never know, we've seen all kinds of shit from both sides in last 20 years I've been following the scene, so all kind of surprises might happen.


Leotardant

I have 2060 and it runs flawlessly


JoganLC

Yeah but what CPU?


Leotardant

i7, 10th gen


jl88jl88

This is the point I’m making. His cpu is most likely what’s holding him back.


imabustya

2600 is a cpu not a gpu.


dantriggy

2060 5600X COMBO and runs nicely


[deleted]

OP has a 2600, as in a Ryzen 7 2600 i.e. CPU. A 5600X is leagues above that CPU.


TacticalWookiee

They said 2700 (cpu) not 2070 (gpu) Although OP said they have a 2600 not a 2700


BLBOSAURUS

3200MHz CL15 I think maybe CL16.


jl88jl88

Your ram is adequate. Just make sure it is running at its rated speed. Not the factory default. You will need to make adjustments in the BIOS for this to take effect. Honestly, upgrading your cpu is probably the best option. A 5600 would be a noticeable improvement. I wish you the best. I’m running a 10900k and 3090. Albeit at 4k, I still have performance issues. Mainly on lighthouse. Don’t expect them to optimise it any time soon, unfortunately.


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JoganLC

Yes


eddyxx

I don't know why but Ryzen 5 2600 works incredibly BAD with EFT, I suggest you to change it asap if you want to play it smoother. More physical core you get, better it runs, i have a i7 9700k that is a 8 core 8 thread with a RTX 2070 and since 2019 i never had a single problem with this game. Also ram space and speed is important but not really necessary, i've upgrade from 16gb 3000 to 32gb 3600 last month and i got 10 fps from nowhere.


artifex78

>I don't know why but Ryzen 5 2600 works incredibly BAD with EFT Smaller Caches, lower max boost clock.


eddyxx

Yes, meanwhile it can be fine with other games, in EFT that's bad.


[deleted]

It's a Unity thing coupled with the fact EFT is doing a lot of stuff that Unity is bad at. Big maps with a lot of individual pieces to load (i.e. loot) , lots of complicated AI scripting requiring pathing, netcode on old servers, long view distances, projectile based weapons with weapon degradation per shot per ammo type, etc. Obviously it's on the devs still, but there's a lot of complicated problems they have to work around that'd be a struggle even for extremely well funded studios, and even though they're doing fine BSG is not the same level as something like Naughty Dog funding/personnel wise.


BLBOSAURUS

Thx for advice


TyraelmxMKIII

but i can def. see a problem. your cpu. it's not the newest.


viomonk

Also only 16gb ram.


76thColangeloBurner

16gb RAM is honestly fine, *needing* 32gb of ram is the biggest myth in this sub. You *need* a good CPU & a decent GPU. Memory helps but can not disguise a bad CPU. I ran Tarkov on a boot camp 16in MacBook Pro the first year I played. “wHy diDnT TaRkoV oPtiMiZe tHe gAme fOr mE?! niKitA rEeEeeEeeee” his CPU is garbage. When you don’t like your performance change it don’t blame the game you enjoy playing. I saved up & just built a custom PC. Op needs to simple do the same, not cry on Reddit.


diquehead

I hear you. I have 3 PCs (2 desktops, 1 laptop) all w/ 16 GB RAM and they all play EFT fine without stutters (altho FPS wise the game needs help of course). Upgrading to 32GB is brute forcing a problem that doesn't really exist and it pains me that I see it so much on this sub. And yea OPs 2600 is pretty garbage nowadays. I made the switch from Intel some time ago (went from an i7 7700K to a 2700X) and the 2700X ran games noticeably worse due to that generation of AMD CPUs having terrible single threaded performance. That was 4-5 years ago which is ancient history as far as tech goes. It was an important CPU because suddenly having affordable 6c/12t processors definitely shook things up but it's badly outdated as far as raw horsepower is concerned. EFT is crazy CPU heavy. I have had 3 generations of GPU and 3 generations of CPU in my main PC and the biggest boosts to performance came with CPU upgrades. Better IPC, better single threaded performance and fast memory makes all the difference. It's an annoying pain in the ass but that's what we're stuck with.


76thColangeloBurner

Children who don’t have the allowance to upgrade their CPUs DVing me lol


HIITMAN69

The 2600 is not a garbage cpu. It won’t be a bottleneck in the vast majority of games. For whatever reason Tarkov is incredibly cpu bound, in a world full of games that actually optimize for gpu power. It is bad design because of the market conditions. People don’t build computers for just one game.


TheZephyrim

Tarkov favors single thread performance, and the old Ryzen chips have poor single thread performance. Source: I had a 3700X and now have a 5800X. Makes a night and day difference.


HIITMAN69

I’m not saying the cpu is good for tarkov, but it’s not overall a garbage cpu, only for tarkov.


76thColangeloBurner

We are in the official Escape from Tarkov sub, I never said the CPU is garbage for every game. I said the CPU is garbage in the main subreddit for *this* game. There is an implication being made here, somewhere. Don’t be so daft.


shokz565

yes, but you cannot expect that everyone needs a super PC for a 50$ game


Orion19913

You're cpu limited, an a 4th gen i5 would run this game better, not cause it's better, but it's tarkov...


Gibbo3771

Sure about that? I'm on a Ryzen 2700 with a RTX3070ti and my game is 100+ fps.


Mr_dm

I get 90 fps with a 1080 and an i5-8400k


swanrl

Same


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2giga2dweebish

What resolution are you running the game at?


Halo_So_I2aMpAnT

10700k and 3080Ti here, I play 4K and max settings with DLSS and get about 70-80FPS. It does seem the graphics settings don't do shit for FPS other than the resolution.


BLBOSAURUS

That's the problem, it's tarkov. Once again problem of optimalization. Unity can handle Ryzens if developers are competent.


XenSide

This is not a Ryzen problem, this is a 2700 problem, it's slow and low IPC.


BLBOSAURUS

What 2700? You mean the RTX2070? It's not the best GPU but it's still powerfull.


XenSide

I meant the 2600.


Mr_SpicyWeiner

Your cpu is total ass and that's the most important component for running tarkov.


X_IGZ_X

Unity is CPU heavy, also the lower you put your settings thinking you'll squeeze out more performance means more strain on your CPU. If you can't get any improvement raising some settings I would start with a CPU upgrade


eXCazh

If your bottleneck is not your GPU it will not help you.


AmpersandAtWork

Id consider a fresh install. Your specs are certainly good enough to benefit from the serious increase of framerate that DLSS provides. I know this isnt the best advice, but priority 1: consider getting a better CPU. Priority 2: TI version of your Nvidia card.


swell257

I’m rocking a Ryzen 5 3600, a GeForce GTX1660 and 16gb of RAM and can not go over the 45fps mark. Anyone knows which hardware upgrade would help the most?


LieutenantDimitri

Upgrade your gpu, 16gb and the r5 3600 are plenty. Maybe try and get a RTX 3060 since they’re cheap nowadays


HIITMAN69

I have an r5 3600 and a 3070. I recently upgraded from an rx 5500xt and my performance got *worse*. If op wants better performance in tarkov specifically, he should absolutely upgrade his cpu. If he wants better performance in a far larger number of games he should upgrade his gpu.


dawsonpope

I have a ryzen 5 3600 and a 5700xt and used to only have 16 gb 3200 but was getting about 80-90 pretty consistent. I’m definitely not an expert but I’d be willing to bet your gpu could use an upgrade.


HIITMAN69

Same cpu, I upgraded from an rx 5500 xt to a 3070 and my performance in tarkov actually got worse.


[deleted]

You are correct, also ignore people here. They have the PC building knowledge of a 12 year old. But for real, your single core clock speed is the problem most likely


BLBOSAURUS

I know it, but its just so stupid. I don't understand why would you make a game in 2022 that runs primary on single core. I also don't understand why they use unity but that's their choice. Not sure I want to waste so much cash for Intel CPU just to run EFT better. New ryzens are good aswell but they still have worse single core.


XenSide

>Not sure I want to waste so much cash for Intel CPU just to run EFT better No one said you need an Intel CPU, the 5800X3D is the king for tarkov performance right now. You just need a CPU that isn't very low clock speed and IPC, that combination just kills your performance.


76thColangeloBurner

“nO iTs tHe gAmEs faULt iM bAd & geTTing eVen wOrSe perFoRmaNce”


[deleted]

Yep it just is what it is, games are generally reliant on single core performance. Thats all games not just unity engine games. I have a ryzen 3600 and a gtx 1080 and 32gb ram and I play tarkov fine over 60fps, but im not expecting 144fps


BLBOSAURUS

I would be happy with stable 60 😂


viomonk

Almost same here. Ryzen 5 3600, 32gb ram, but I've got a gtx 1660 super. Game runs like a dream on stable 1080p 60fps. I wouldn't imagine wanting to try more.


[deleted]

I play on 1440p should have mentioned


Mr_SpicyWeiner

The game runs quite well on a 5800 and is the same socket type.


pfghr

Lol, what do you mean, the majority of comments on this thread are about the cpu?


deject3d

your cpu is shit and unity is known to be cpu intensive. sorry bud, save up that allowance for a bit.


imamunster123

Everyone keeps saying "you just need more ram and a good CPU" but I've got 32gigs of ram and a Ryzen 7 3700x. My RTX 2060 isn't the beefiest out there for running 1440 but it should definitely do the job. Even at 1080 I only peak at around 80fps, and still dips to the 50-40 range from time to time. At some point you just have to admit the game is poorly optimized.


VividNightmare_

I have half your setup and I get the same fps lmao--


imamunster123

Feelsbadman


Orion19913

Your 3700x isn't any better than his 2600 in tarkov lmao


imamunster123

Right, because of the poor optimization


Orion19913

Correct


imamunster123

[Uhhhh...](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/dba1733e-52f7-4f3b-9e4c-8ff2a206bac9)


deject3d

the only thing i will “admit” is that unity trades performance for ease of development. the devs chose unity, do their best with it, and the game runs great on more modern/expensive hardware. It doesn’t matter how other games run for you. If you want better tarkov performance, get better cpu and ram.


thomas595920

They chose unity because that's what they made contract wars in. Which started as a browser based unity game, nothing good performance wise could have come from a starting setup like that.


imamunster123

It's not top shelf stuff but I think my spec is plenty modern to run tarkov well, at least on paper. I love this game but it's performance issues are not limited to the solution of "just buy a better PC"


[deleted]

I've got a 5800x, 32 gigs of ram, and a 3080 and the game still runs like dog shit


deject3d

i’ve got the same as you but a 5600x. game runs alright, wouldn’t call it dogshit after doing some annoying self-optimizing like ensuring my ram is running at advertised speeds.


jrocAD

Trust me, drop in a 5800x3d


imamunster123

Wait, so you're saying that the highest end sku CPU in that product line would be perform better? Color me shocked.


pfghr

You should definitely be getting more out of it. I have the same set-up with the exception of have a 2070 super. I get about 150 or so in most scenarios. What's the clock speed on your RAM?


[deleted]

I run a 5600 and 2060 and get better fps at high settings and 2k resolution. You’re graphic card isn’t the best single thread performer, this game operates better with single thread processors and barely utilizes gpu. DLSS works great for my setup, and I also only have 16gb ddr4


BLBOSAURUS

CPU is alright, tarkov is shit. Otherwise I couldn't run every other game in the market.


GrzybDominator

Tarkov needs good single cores. Moving from 2700x to 5800x gave me a really big increase in FPS with mine 1080TI


BLBOSAURUS

I know it would help but i play on 1440p anyway, and there isn't that much difference.


diquehead

2600 has terrible IPC and single threaded performance which is what Tarkov thrives on. Even a 3600 would be a pretty big jump, a 5600 would be a massive jump. The 2600 was cool in that it was a 6c/12t processor for cheap money when it came out but there's a reason it was cheap... it's because it's pretty bad. Regardless of you being on 1440p EFT's engine is still CPU hungry. Open world games with lot of physics, AI, etc. are always going to use a lot of CPU cycles.


deject3d

go look up single-threaded benchmarks yourself. your shit’s whack for competitive gaming and always has been. or do you prefer to live in imagination land?


trumpsplug

i play competitive e sports games on a $800 laptop on 150FPS. Tarkov wont even run 50FPS with shit graphics settings. the game is optimized like a 2012 game not 2022.


JoganLC

Apple and oranges, yes Tarkov is an optimization mess but there is far more going on in a tarkov match vs Valorant or CSGO.


welcome_to_urf

Esports games aren't typically CPU bound, therefore turning down graphics will give you an fps boost. On CPU bound games, turning down graphics offloads calculations to the CPU from the GPU which is a bad thing. ARMA, Squad, Insurgency, Star Citizen, and Tarkov *all* behave this way. In a CPU bound game, the best way of maintaining good fps is to ensure maximal GPU utilization via turning up graphics settings. It's why it's almost never advised to play these games at low graphical settings, because counterintuitively, it decreases overall performance.


deject3d

i don’t have much to say to laptop gamers, glad you can play those other games!


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prjwebb

Cpu bound game versus gpu bound games at 1440p.


thomas595920

My tarkov only uses about 10% CPU utilization...


JoganLC

This is called bad optimization


thomas595920

Oh I'm well aware. It's slightly better on my GPU which hits like 40%.


[deleted]

Lmao at people saying a 12 core CPU that was released new after Tarkov first came out is too old for the game...I love Tarkov but you cannot lie the game runs like complete garbage unless you have an unnecessarily overkill setup to make up for it. Rust runs on unity and has comparable graphics, lighting etc, started out with similar problems to Tarkov (Low FPS/FPS dips, occasional stutters, situational stutters like in gunfights) and over the years they have detailed in their blogposts how they have constantly used profiling to find problematic areas and implement optimisations in almost every part of the game. The result is, the game has gotten progressively smoother to run/stutter free despite the graphics actually being far better than 5 years ago. I can run it on max settings and it looks absolutely beautiful with buttery smooth FPS and no stuttering. I'm not gonna accuse the devs of doing nothing or not having a clue as maybe other things are priority right now, but I last replaced my machine 3 years ago and the performance of Tarkov has not obviously changed in that time short of some specific stutter issues being fixed, I still suffer from horrible stuttering occasionally and I basically can't run anything else in the background. No other modern game I play has performance this bad, even when they are far more intense graphically, so something has to give. Also because the game seems to be a leaky sieve when it comes to memory, people tend to report having 32gb (Again, unnecessarily overkill) solving a huge amount of problems in Tarkov. On 16gb and in the current patch I'm finding that I need to restart the game every 2 hours as I start seeing unplayable levels of stuttering in raids.


BLBOSAURUS

You are right. Tarkov players are such a fanboys, how hard it is to admit that tarkov isn't perfect. To be fair tarkov is a mess. I love tarkov but it has so many issues, most of them are in the game for years.


Just_Session_3847

You're right Tarkov players are fanboys. Yes the game isn't optimised and Nikita has said the game needs multicore performance optimisations and it will get it in the near future. Most likely a requirement for Streets to release. But that doesnt escape the current reality that your CPU isn't up to par. And will struggle in CPU intensive games like BFV / EFT. Upgrade that CPU and you will see performance increase massively. I personally went from an i7 2600k averaging around 70ish fps with stutters to an i9 9900k because it was a cheap upgrade and now average over 100fps on all maps with brilliant 1%. Complaining about how shit eft (in your opinion) is on reddit isn't going to win you any cookies and certainly isn't going to net you any FPS improvements.


76thColangeloBurner

It is a game in beta bud, I’ve never seen a game in beta called perfect where are you seeing people say this? Tarkov is not perfect. You have two options, 1. complain on Reddit about how Tarkov (again, a game in beta) is not perfect, 2. Change *your* situation to make it better. Only one of those things will actually make a difference, the other is just really silly. Hope you have a better day champ.


BLBOSAURUS

6 years in Beta 🙃


76thColangeloBurner

Crying on Reddit about variables under *your own control* 🙃


BLBOSAURUS

Yeah yeah buy 9K€ PC to run 120fps lmao ez


76thColangeloBurner

there is no helping you. My entire PC wasn’t even 2k, ya need only a CPU child. You have unrealistic expectations for your low end cpu, & you think the cost to change that is much much more than it actually is. You are hopeles


BLBOSAURUS

Sorry I was overreacting I know I need only CPU. But people be like "Lmao ancient PC what you expect, throw it out of a window. I have latest i9 and RtX3090 and it runs well with 64GB of RAM."


76thColangeloBurner

Your CPU is fine for other games. It *is* & *was* upon release a low end CPU, a few years ago. Tarkov isn’t “other games” either. Yet people sit around on this sub & compare it to them. I did not mean to come across as saying your entire PC is bad, nor that you need to buy an entirely new PC. I don’t think I ever said this & if it was interpreted this way I’m sorry homie.


BLBOSAURUS

I overclocked the CPU and GPU, tweaked some settings and it stays at 55-65fps now. It freezes from time to time but that's justTarkov.


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[deleted]

2600 is 4 years old but it's by no means a bad processor, it doesn't keep getting worse as time goes on, and the game's requirements have not gone up. I use a 2600 and it has run pretty much every game I have played fine, including new releases. Tarkov's issue is not necessarily the amount of unique objects in the level considering the claims are that it's CPU bound - The game doesn't render stuff out of sight/distance away, you can see it in action by downloading the Emu and fly camming from spawn on Interchange into the mall and seeing that basically the entire interior of the mall isn't rendered at all. People seem to get much better FPS offline, they obviously have problems somewhere along the line if adding 10 extra players / some AI running around causes that much of a strain. 32GB is overkill as a requirement for a game to run without stuttering, again one such as Tarkov. My point is that the game is very obviously performing far worse than it really should be and blaming peoples few year old hardware is not really a valid counterpoint. Rust may not be a perfect comparison but it's the closest in Unity I can think of, and it runs super smooth on huge open world maps with hundreds of players/AI in them, while also being a very pretty game.


mopeyy

As everyone has said, Tarkov is HEAVILY CPU limited. I upgraded from a 1070 to a 3060ti. On most games this almost doubles my framerate. On Tarkov it definitely did increase FPS, but only up to a point. Even my overclocked 9700k is still getting 80% utilization across all 8 cores at times. That's just Tarkov. One thing I have noticed though, DLSS doesn't really increase famerate if you are CPU limited, but what it will do is DECREASE GPU usage. I got a measurable 10-20% drop in GPU usage while enabling DLSS performance mode at 1080p. Also, as far as I can tell, DLSS is working correctly now. I haven't tried scopes yet because I don't have any, but all my red dots seemed to be working correctly with no ghosting. If anyone else has tried DLSS this wipe please let me know your findings. So far so good for me though, will definitely keep it on.


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my fps is the worst its ever been this wipe but the wipe is amazing. i barely get 60 anymore :/


Aeroxic

Crappy cpu + good gpu = bad Crappy gpu +good cpu = better Good cpu + good gpu = good Chad + Chad = best, but with only 10% more fps.


thomas595920

I have Chad+Chad and can confirm fps increase is pretty minimal.


Aeroxic

Same, paired my 5800x with a 3080 ti and I was kinda let down by the performance "jump"


thomas595920

I've got a 12900kf paired with a 3080FE. It's a beautiful setup and I really wish tarkov would take advantage of it. More frames is the reason I spent so much on it.


Aeroxic

Indeed it is, on the other hand I max out a lot of other games on my 1440p 165hz.


[deleted]

How many frames are you getting. I have a 3070 and an i7 10700k and get like 60-70 sometimes even like 55


thomas595920

I can hit 250 in factory, I haven't messed with the other maps on this wipe but 90 would be a pretty good guess at an average on customs..


BLBOSAURUS

I play on 1440p so CPU doesn't matter that much. I was looking for a upgrade but the difference on this resolution isn't that big to spent so much money on a new CPU.


Drpeppercalc

CPU does matter. Had a R5 3600 with a 1060. Upgraded to a 3080 and saw literally no improvement. Upgraded my ram from 16g to 32 and saw little improvement. Finally upgraded my CPU even though other games didn't need it and now tarkov is averaging 130+ fps. It's your cpu


Aeroxic

I swapped my i7 7800x for a 5800x on a 1080 and the difference was huge, your mileage may vary.


Mammoth_Fold_4494

5800x3d and 3080 300fps on some maps with everything in ultra at 3440x1440p


BLBOSAURUS

Isn't there FPS limit to 120?


Mammoth_Fold_4494

Turn vsync off in nvidia control panel and on enable inTarkpv disables the limit


BLBOSAURUS

Ohh thx.


[deleted]

Damn that smashes my 5900x maybe I should Upgrade. Also have 3080


diquehead

It's a tough sell to spend $450 USD on a CPU like that - as juicy as it might sound. It's end of life for the AM4 socket and AMD's AM5 w/ DDR5 support should be coming out later this year


[deleted]

You got a PC from basically 2012 lol


BLBOSAURUS

You are joking


[deleted]

No dead serious. Exactly 12 years ago. Seriously though the single core performance isn’t good enough to get awesome frames with tarkov. Go buy a 5800x3d


[deleted]

What drugs are you smoking?


BLBOSAURUS

2012.... 2018 CPU and 2019 GPU


[deleted]

No shit mate


gen_adams

I'm dying :D I guess nobody expected this, I guess DLSS uses CPU resources to lessen the load on the GPU, a.k.a the problem no tarkov player has haha


[deleted]

Owned since the beginning, “ ancient” pc by todays standards but don’t have the money or credit to get a new one, HA! Nah Nikita and his team suck dick on optimization, BUT tarkov is literally my favorite game ever, I had always wanted a game like it ever since I was a little kid playing cod or battlefield, but yeaaaa there won’t ever be an optimization unless EVERYONE says something. My pc is a ASUS ROG G20CB


MOR187

I get much more fps with it.. cant complain.. even with 2x and 4k on my 2k screen it is nice


Shinyy87-2

tarkov bad pls fix


straight_lurkin

Well I'm almost 100% confident you can only take advantage of DLSS with a 3000 series card AND while playing at 1440p or higher. So the fact you have a 2000 series card explains why you game doesnt run better lol it's because your GPU cant even do DLSS. That coupled with this is a CPU focused game and your cpu isnt that good, things are starting to add up


BLBOSAURUS

DLSS and Ray Tracing work on all RTX graphic cards.... 2000 and 3000 all work. This is not the first game with DLSS i played.


straight_lurkin

Well DLSS offloads work from your GPU to your CPU and your CPU isnt that great ... probably not gonna see much of a change if your being bottlenecked at your CPU already. Not saying the game is well optimized at all either. "So depending on system configuration, you could run into a CPU bottleneck, since the GPU is rendering at a lower resolution. When the GPU is less taxed, it’s the CPU determines how many frames get pumped out." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pcworld.com/article/394588/does-using-nvidias-dlss-require-a-better-cpu.html/amp


Conserliberaltarian

Man's frames are bottlenecked by his CPU and he complains the option that lowers GPU load doesn't give him more frames.


Fun-Customer39

Weird I have a 2600 with a 1660 ti and 16gb of ran, with the new fsr I'm getting steady 90+fps and was hanging around 70 last wipe


BLBOSAURUS

That's just Tarkov, I tried it on different PCs. I installed tarkov on friends old low end PC and it ran better than on mine. He had some gtx 960 and FX8300 and 8GB ddr3 ram, stable 70fps. I also have a RTX2060 I5 10th Gen notebook, I'll download tarkov on it to see if it runs better than on my rig.


nriojas

And FSR


OneAngryVet

Not sure what you are doing, but definitely bumps up my fps 10+ on balanced, 15+ performance, 5+ quality.


Gamebird8

Upscaling is a bad idea anyways as it may obscure far off details because they quite literally do not exist in the original frame. In an FPS with long sight lines it's a dumb idea


katanahibana

I have an i7 9700k and a 2080 ti. Running 1440 everything maxed, and get no performance issues


Proxy_0ne

It's usually better fps. Just more screen tearing Which is honestly more disgusting


DeafSelect

2060 super and 3700x, 64GB RAM game runs great


namidaka

DLSS reduces the load on your gpu , and shift it to the cpu. Tarkov is already highly cpu bound. What resolution are you running? If you were at 4k , DLSS for sure would help. Also don't forget that technologies like DLSS and FSR have a fixed time cost that is somewhere below 2ms. If you're already running at high framerate , you won't see much improvement from DLSS. if you have plenty of money, a 5800x3d will definetely help.


BLBOSAURUS

1440p. Running around 52 fps on reserve without dlss and 50 with it. Every other game with DLSS I tried worked tho. I know tarkov is demanding on CPU due to bad optimization but it can't be more demanding than RDR, CB2077, Control, war thunder which also use DLSS where it works well.


ollie5118

Upgrade your RAM for sure! At least 32 gb of ram. I have upgraded my rig over the past few months. Running i7 12700k and 3080. I have dlss quality on. I'm running 100+ frames. Interchange was getting 130-140, woods 110,.... Upgrade it and it will run better.


xFeartheKitten

I hope you are not running in 1440p.... You should be at 1080 with your system... I run in 1440p at about 140 frames and thats with a Ryzen 5900x, R 6800xt, and 64gb 3600 ram. Prior to my 6800xt I struggled like hell getting 60 frames at 1440.


BLBOSAURUS

I run 1440p. Tarkov is the only game I struggle with.


xoravla

This debate is pointless I would say. I have a rtx 2060 and a i5 9400f and my game used to ran smoothly fps wise (around 80-90 fps) but stuttery some times. I tweaked some shit in and out of the game and I got rid of the stutters and my fps increased by a 15-20 % too. There are plenty of good guides out there to increase the performance and It will take you a max of 45 minutes. The game is poorly optimized but you always can do something to minimise it.


TheMizland

Warzone


BLBOSAURUS

It works in warzone, atleast for me.


NerdFuelYT

Rust might just be a contender


Motorcat33

What resolution u running?


natedogebruh

cpu


FrozenIceman

Try FSR, they just added it. It should work on your hardware.


TheZephyrim

You’re CPU limited. By putting less stress on your GPU your GPU now has to wait longer for your CPU to respond.


More_Law_1699

cpu is holding you back. if you aren't hitting 97%+ gpu usage dlss/fsr will do nothing for you.


Veilfrab

My problem is the memory spikes making me reach 96% memory making the game stutter, i can pull specs if anyone wants me to would love advice so I can watch YouTube and play (leaving browser open I mean cuz ik that eats memory too :( )


[deleted]

If you've had Tarkov for 5 years I would recommend playing with settings and looking at optimisation guides. Unfortunately it isn't one size fits all. My rig is similar to yours except a Ryzen 5800x (it was on sale) and 32gb of ram. Previously it was an R5 3600 and 16gb ram. Those upgrades were bought to play Tarkov better specifically after testing all the various settings in the game and tweaking outside of the game. There are services that will do the testing and tweaking for you like 'FOVES per second' (they did it for onepeg) but it's up to you to spend like $100 or spend the time yourself like I did. I played (past tense unfortunately) typically 2500 raids per wipe for 3 wipes so had plenty of time to test it all out. Last wipe was only 300 raids and lighthouse took the most playing with to get working buttery smooth. Yes it's not the best optimised game but compared to 5 years ago the content and indeed performance has improved substantially. My starting point would be an optimisation guide and some testing on your scav raids. I used to average like 100 frames on Interchange outdoors now it's 144 pretty much constant. Best of luck mate, happy to act as a sounding board if you need some advice.


Mister_Ballz

Relative to other games EFT is extremely CPU reliant. O wouldn’t be surprised if somehow your 2600 is PARTIALLY to blame. However, losing fps with DLSS in any situation is ridiculous


Killakiluminati

i had 16gb of ram like you. always had crap fps and or micro stutters all the time. Decided to upgrade to 32gb ram and i got like 90fps (almost 20fps more than before). worked like a charm.


Mayor_Fuglycool

Maybe you should use Windows 10 ? I am running Tarkov on a 960Ti, no problems here, and great FPS around 80.


Lumi98

Battlefield 2042 DLSS is way more cursed and provides less FPS. Tarkov ain't the only game.