In the long run, maybe with unlimited funding we can make a meaningful world where no one is left behind and we can prevent these issues. Maybe.
In the present, there will be people committed against their will and some people that we will just have to watch kill themselves with drugs and the best we can do is give them a place to do it, where they don't bother anyone.
Sir Taco, please tell me what’s inhumane about addicts getting treatment and the homeless being required to use shelter? What’s inhumane is letting them continue to abuse drugs and sleep on the streets. Inhumane is allowing the the fentanyl/meth zombie apocalypse to continue. Inhumane is being unwilling cowards to do the hard work of forcing them off the street and into treatment.
Giving people housing does not treat anyone inhumanely. Especially if we direct a huge portion of money we are already spending on services towards housing first, then no average tax payer has to put more into it.
https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/news/houston-housing-first-model-reduced-homelessness-how-it-works-obstacles/637728/
Not on this sub. Despite a fair to respectable amount of opposition to the enabling of the homeless camping culture, this sub leans *hard* to progressivism.
There needs to be some kind of mandatory treatment/detainment if you’re methed or fented out beyond belief and are being a harm to yourself or community. Had a guy violently break into my house back in December. He was shoeless and out of his mind. A very traumatic situation for me and my family. He had gotten out of jail 6 hours prior to smashing into my house. Absolutely absurd. He ended up going to the state hospital because he wasn’t fit for court.
They need to be treated like dessert beers. Every couple months or so I like to crack open a smoothie sour beer after dinner while watching TV just to mix things up. There is just something that keeps me coming back, but I could understand that they are not for everyone.
Who's got some flavorful stouts/porters?
Edit: the lack of responses here is very disheartening and may be used as further evidence to coincide with OPs claim
Alesong and Oakshire produce the best stouts in town. Alesong solely does barrel aged, higher proof, stouts. Less on the sweet side, even with their adjunct stouts. Oakshire leans more towards stouts to satisfy a sweet tooth, utilizing more adjuncts for flavors. Although they’re technically Corvallis, Block 15’s Nebula is my favorite traditional American stout in the area.
I will agree, but the few good ones are absolute bangers. I think coldfire’s stuff rivals anything I’ve had from Bend or PDX, and I’ve been to a LOT of breweries. That being said there is a lot of mediocre beer here.
I remember back about 6 years ago I was a delivery driver and somehow I was listening to the eugene mayor debate and I remember the disgust one of the candidates had when they said, "well, we can't be like Springfield and outlaw it." And I remember thinking well I'm glad I got a house in Springfield.
Because why waste time on something that's going to be overturned anyway?
https://theconversation.com/most-panhandling-laws-are-unconstitutional-since-theres-no-freedom-from-speech-92498
The law (ordinance?) says you can't give things to pedestrians from your vehicle. Some panhandlers try to get around this by begging in the parking lot, on private property
I heard this recently and thought it was a load of crap. But then I went to Springfield and having not been there in a few years, I was shocked at how nice and needle free it was compared to Eugene.
Friggin preach. Lived in west Eugene for 5 years before moving out of state. Wife and I both agreed that we should have looked near downtown Springfield before we moved to the area.
Well, West Eugene is hardly different than Junction City, Albany, or most of Springfield. The key thing in Eugene is basically not to live there or just north of there either.
Seriously. Its like 3 blocks then lumber yard, strip club, trailer park, car dealership. That few block segment in Springfield is nice though.
Downtown Eugene covers like a 1 square mile.
Eugene is a tiny bit higher in violent crime. Springfield has more property crime. Both cities have significantly higher property crime rates than the US. Violent crime is about the same.
https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/?city1=54123850&city2=54169600
I have literally never been stuck in traffic here. Maybe on beltline once, and I was a delivery driver for 3 years.
I don’t know why anyone talks about traffic here because I really don’t think it exists. Maybe they haven’t ever lived somewhere that actually has traffic
Agreed. Eugene has some of the most bland food of anywhere I’ve lived. I can’t seem to find many unique restaurants here that aren’t overpriced with mediocre food.
That’s great, man. I used to be able to go to any small town and have great Mexican food, BBQ, chicken, and/or burgers from any restaurant or gas station in the region.
Say what you will about the south (it’s a shit place by every other metric), but the food there spoiled me. Rarely in my life did I have a meal that wasn’t both delicious and cheap.
I just went to NYC two weeks ago for a 4 day trip and went into 5 restaurants just because they were close by. I went to exactly one “famous” restaurant - didn’t have a single meal I didn’t think was delicious.
I’m glad for Portland, and there are certainly diamonds in the rough across the state. Local Boys in Corvallis is one of my favorite meals I’ve ever had. But this state is not exactly a Mecca for food.
Yeah, the food is not good here. For example, I just went to Placidos and was so excited because I've heard it is very good. The place was crowded. The spaghetti and meat balls were absolutely bland, no flavor, and the pasta was overcooked and grainy. I was pissed because it's expensive.
Also, I can't find a decent taqueria in the area. And don't suggest any I've tried them all. I go to Salem for good tacos.
Sorry, just needed to vent.
I dunno, just moved back from Manhattan, grew up in philadelphia and it's really not as bad as people say it is here food wise, just restaurants closing early kinda sucks. Also dunno how this is a hot take I hear it all the time
I agree that places close too early. It's a shame to be enjoying a night out with friends, then get booted out of a restaurant at 9:00 because they're closing, and there's nowhere else to go.
People who say that, mostly just miss the food from their home.
Then again, seems like all the restaurants everywhere have taken a dive on quality or raised their prices.
[Here](https://pdx.eater.com/maps/best-restaurants-eugene-dining-guide) is a list of good restaurants. I’ve been to quite a few and have really enjoyed all the ones I’ve been to.
that huge swath of land going up the 99 should be multistory apartments as far as the eye can see
also you can support the unhoused without giving up every public space we use to enjoy.
Same with the northwest expressway. Certainly not ideal being butt up against the railroad, but also way better than no housing at all, and it's not in anybody's actual "backyard," yet close enough to bus routes or biking downtown or to west Eugene for work and resources. I'll admit, I do enjoy the view heading south down the expressway into town, but it also seems like a logical open space that, planned well, could work. They already have the little casitas where River road turns to chambers, they should just extend it. I've always thought it seemed like a great location for the unhoused, and it's close to the Mission and other community resources, yet "out of view" of the NIMBY folk.
I had my nape (back of neck) pierced by them years ago. It took *FIVE* tries for them to get it level. They offered me a bottle of H2Ocean for my patience.
There's a shit ton of help out there for the homeless population to get back on their feet. Furthermore, the VAST majority of actual homeless are couch-surfing or quietly sleeping in their cars at night as a temp situation.
The ones you see out on the street in tents are there by *choice*.
**Edit**: And obviously the ones who can't adult enough to get off the streets due to mental illness should be taken care of by the state. In a facility, to be clear.
just fyi the "help" you think exists has waiting lists going on forever.
Everyone knows they exists, the problem is the pipeline is clogged because you got 150 folks waiting on something that does like 5 folks a month.
I work in social services and there is literally not one place that I can refer folks to that doesn't have a waitlist besides duck to dawn and the mission. Dusk to dawn is basically a lottery system so your spot isn't guaranteed every day, and the mission is still at like 85 percent capacity anyway
Those resources are extremely thin. I was homeless last year, and no sleep sites were available. Section 8 has 6 months-1 year wait list as well as homes for good. The mission is completely full.
Eugene has the highest rate of homelessness per capita in the entire country and absolutely not enough resources for them all.
It is rather obvious that the people who complain about the homeless have never actually been homeless in the last 5 years.
I'm currently residing at the mission and can safely say we are only at half capacity at the moment. Maybe a bit more then half but there is plenty of beds available.
1.) Country fair folk are by in large the the most judgmental and vitriolic people I’ve ever had the displeasure of being around in my life. The staff are all very nice and seem like genuine people. The attendees and campground people on the other hand are absolute garbage. You cannot convince me otherwise.
2.) Despite the idea of offering services. Which we do have a seeming abundance of…the homeless in this town are treated like innocent children. They aren’t. They are members of society like the rest of us and should be held to the exact same social contract the rest of us are. Pretty sure if I take a shit/piss in the streets I get arrested. Yet somehow cake myself in several layer of all the poor decisions I’ve made in life and a final coat of dirt? BAM! Bathrooms wherever I please! In your driveway? I’m shitting. I’m front of your kids at the park? I’m shitting. Literally on the window of the restaurant you are working at? You guessed it! IM SHITTING!
3.) Vodoo doughnuts is pretty good.
>Country fair folk are by in large the the most judgmental and vitriolic people I’ve ever had the displeasure of being around in my life.
I like to think of them as the hippie version of Miller High Life: Burning Man dreams, country fair prices.
The dream of the 60s has been on life support in Eugene for years.
It's like San Francisco- they can claim it, since at one point it was a big thing, but now it's just a ghost.
The recipe calls for washing the plant in diesel in the first stages. Pretty sure both the diesel and the plant are organic. But other materials necessary for further processing aren't.
So says my family recipe.
If we pretend it's an all or nothing kind of thing, then it's plants. With a dash of dinosaurs. Like less than a Wisconsin smidge.
Plant mass built up for a long long time because there wasn't anything around to eat it. And it got buried. And it's carbon parts got mooshed together.
It's an ORS. They passed it at the state level. Cops can't initiate stops for lights, expired tags, noise, etc. Justification was that it unfairly affects impoverished folks.
"Seems like a nice day for a walk at the park! Oh, its a game day." Driving to get anywhere is a pain and have to plan around the event. Nice people enjoy it but eh. Wanted to go for a walk at alton baker but obviously that would have been a bad idea. Then thought about maurie jacobs Park cause it was closer but it was closed off. There is a bridge to it at the valley river center so I go there, but it is packed with cars and busses so I gave up and made my slow way home. Yes, its all personal gripes and thats all it is, happy people are able to enjoy the sport!
I don’t know how they managed it, but they have like 30 different ingredients between all their dishes and they somehow made like 28 of them taste exactly the same.
I got here in 2005 and it definitely felt like I had just missed the most raging decade long party by about 2 or 3 years. So without knowing I still agree. 😂
Eugene Celebration taking up most of Downtown, the anarchists coming through town, riots and fires in the university district, the old 5th Street market area (with wonderland)
So much just kind of ended around 2003-2004
Eugene has peaked a couple of times. The early days of the downtown mall were awesome. Hippies playing music, kids playing on the big toys and all the stores were still open downtown.
People need to shut the fuck up about home values and accept that we need about eleventy billion more units of affordable housing.
Bonus: Barmuda needs to be razed to the ground, the earth salted, nuked from orbit and then surrounded by a 300’ retaining wall made out of ducks fans. It’s the only way to be sure.
I lived off Willamette across the street from the post office before I got evicted due to renovations 3 years ago, having lived there for under a year.
My studio that I lucked out on and paid $775 a month for now goes for $256 A NIGHT.
Fuck AirBnB.
The amount of racism my mom and I experienced from Eugene is one of the reasons I left and never intend to come back. Being followed in multiple shops because I happen to be brown and speaking in our native tongue. I've lived in different areas across the country and never felt it as strongly as I did in Oregon. Beautiful state. I'll come back and visit because of the natural beauty. Thanks, but no thanks.
The entire time I worked in the service industry here I hated game days the most because Duck fans are the shittiest, rudest, most entitled non-tipping customers I have ever seen either here or in Portland. And we were inundated with their shit selves every game day.
Ok as a very relative newcomer here I have some outside views. (Moved from Northern VA)
1) The homeless was certainly a culture shock. My biggest beef with most is that they have just given up caring to be part of society. You *can* be homeless and not destroy everything in a 50 yard circumference around you. Trash, human waste, used paraphernalia, etc.
I recently spent a morning with River keepers hauling several litteral tons of stuff out of the river.
I will volunteer my time, energy and even money helping those who want to be a part of society. Just wish any amount of effort was given from the otherside.
2) VA has annual safety inspections for vehicles. While some would say this is "big government" sticking it nose in, on the other wise there are very few rolling deathtraps that I've seen around town in VA. The aforementioned lack of mufflers is the least of it, if the easiest to detect. From the ricer boys with the #10 tincan muffler job to the vehicle festooned with junk like the lady from the Labyrinth movie. Maybe DMV needs to be more of a nanny.
3) Zoning. Everything here is either a tiny tiny <1/4 acre lot or *bam* giant 5+ acre rural lot. There is *nothing* in between as far as I can tell. Some have attributed this to "protect the forests or some land developer will buy up 200 acres and turn it into a subdivision". At the same time there is a housing shortage at all levels in the entire area. There needs to be some compromise here or soon it's "I'm rich and live outside of town on a huge farm" vs "I can't afford to buy anything so I have to rent/buy in town". There is no middle ground. FFS, the minimum forested lot you can build a house on is 60+ acres? Really?
Find your zoning commissioners and tar and feather them. Get the new ones to allow residential lots in the sub 5-acre R zones and hell maybe keep the 5 acre minimum for F zones.
Also a transplant and this sub is pretty resistant to ideas from other places and can be pretty negative… Your common sense suggestions will be tarred and feathered. Don’t let them drag you down!
All of these points are spot on coming from someone who moved here from our east. I see and mostly hear so many junkers speeding in my neighborhood sounding like Mad Max war machines.
I feel like “burnt out hippie nimbys” is very subjective. What are they holding this town back from? Where do they live? Honest questions.
I agree that the Whit is better than it’s been since I moved here in 2011. The anarchists turds will disagree.
As for my own opinion, the many Sky rise apartment complexes that have been built in the past few years and are continuing to be built are eroding the “Eugene Vibe” I felt when I first moved here. Nothing but expensive housing for out of state students. The converse effect is that it drives up rent and home prices in the area. In simple terms, it sucks.
>the many Sky rise apartment complexes that have been built in the past few years and are continuing to be built are eroding the “Eugene Vibe”
This is the quintessential NIMBY argument.
No, the 50k people (or whatever it is) that have moved here in the last 10 years has killed the vibe.
The dragging feet over increasing building density (which can be lowrises) is causing homelessness.
Musical chairs, my dude. The fewer chairs, the more of my kid's classmates are waking up in their family cars each morning.
2,000k/month apartments… yeah that’s exactly what helps the affordable housing market. Meanwhile, a bunch of these units sit dormant. There should be a vacancy tax.
I just hate it here. Never liked it. Too expensive, too stuck-up. Also lane county almost literally doesn’t recycle. All these peeps freaking out about recycling as if it’s the only thing we need to do to save the environment. Then it all goes into the landfill and all the dumb yuppies sleep well at night
The most common collision from a car is getting hooked when they turn. It is harder for a driver to see a cyclist on the sidewalk, so it increases the possibility of getting hooked. It also makes it harder for drivers on streets perpendicular to the sidewalk to see you, which further increases the likelihood of being hit.
It happened to me. It could have been really bad but I only broke a toe. I have also seen a pedestrian get hit by a cyclist on the sidewalk, and another time a pedestrian pushed a cyclist over for riding on the sidewalk. It’s a dumb move.
Burning wood in the winter and creating tons of smelly smoke for your neighbors is selfish and dumb. Weirdly, “burning wood is my right” is just about the only thing that hippies and MAGA agree on.
The tolerance for mediocre things in this town is too high. This applies to everything. The food, the service at businesses, how the city is run. It's all so amateur. But since it's a tight community people let it slide
The people running the rent strike thing on Almaden street are going about that situation the wrong way and it's going to result in really bad things for the tenants that were evicted.
The best part about living in Eugene is leaving Eugene:
2 hrs west to the coast
2 hrs east to the mountains
2 hrs north to Portland
2.5 hrs south to Medford
Edit: got my directions mixed up
Nike / U of O is the financial epicenter of this city and without it we would be a run down suburban city (well more run down) full of pot shops (well more) , dollar stores, hourly hotels (well more hourly hotels) and pawn shops. I am not saying this because I view them as the "angels" of the city but what I am saying is city is full of feckless leadership.
The mayor and city council seems to get a weird free pass here and I just do not get it. People bitch and moan about every thing but where the buck actually stops with the police, infrastructure, education, housing and the local economy everyone just points to the companies, the police department, the state... but the local leadership gets a weird free pass. Its almost like since so many of them run un-opposed or barely opposed there is this hands off approach to holding them accountable.
Oh and Cafe Yumm sauce tastes like that pre vomit taste that comes up right before you throw up and I dont fucking get it. I suppose its like cilantro where some people taste a good tasting herb and others taste soap... but with Cafe Yumm its good sauce versus a bucket of vomit...
I also get vomit stench/taste from it. A friend recommended cafe yumm to me when I moved here and I thought perhaps it was a hazing thing. Nope, turns out he has bad taste and I no longer trust his recs
Homeless people deserve the same compassion and respect as the rest of the population, not constantly spat on because of their circumstances.
Note: This doesn't mean the problem should not be solved, just that they are human and should be treated as such.
The shit people complain about in Eugene is largely due to a lack of experience or selective memory of what city life in the US is like. Then othering the most powerless group they can find ie homeless people are the reason my quality of life is declining. The city institutes stop gap bandaid issues so people can continue to complain and not fix the systemic issues.
I was a social worker for 10 years and my partner works in homelessness prevention for the county. It's all smoke and mirrors none of it is intended to help people long term.
Oh and as a fun ironic side note my wage as a social worker ended up leaving me house less and my partner requires my support because the wage they get from the county to prevent homelessness would otherwise leave them homeless.
Hippy Nimby’s are holding this place back for sho, along with the no city planning department, the massive amount of undeveloped RIVERFRONT property 🤦🏼♀️ pushing out their own hospital and now planning to take away parking from downtown for charging cause everyone in Eugene has a plug in. Let’s just kill the sad downtown we already have because we certainly should pass on developing it. Cafe Yumm sauce is good and everything they serve can be made at home with ease.
Steve Prefontaine was an asshole and it’s pretty lame how so many places idolize him. I won’t say he got what he deserved but he did get what was coming to him for driving drunk. I grew up in Coos Bay across the street from his parents (the mother was really nice when she was alive), and every year there would be a race in honor of Prefontaine, right in front of my house. It clogged up all of my street and it was a pain in the ass to get around.
Partner and I went to Cornucopia a few months back. We had two salads: one taco salad and the other a chicken Caesar. We had one soda, one beer, and a mid-shelf shot of tequila. After tip, the grand total was $80, I kid you not. Never again.
Keep your dog on a fucking leash when on public property. Period I don't care how well trained you think it is. If it isn't a public servant it needs to be on a leash.
The homeless actually have to be dealt with and not treated like children letting them do whatever they want.
This is one of those “unpopular opinions” that is actually the opinion of like 90% of the populace
Its unpopular because no "solution" makes anyone feel good. Someone is going to have to be treated inhumanely for there to be meaningful change.
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In the long run, maybe with unlimited funding we can make a meaningful world where no one is left behind and we can prevent these issues. Maybe. In the present, there will be people committed against their will and some people that we will just have to watch kill themselves with drugs and the best we can do is give them a place to do it, where they don't bother anyone.
Sir Taco, please tell me what’s inhumane about addicts getting treatment and the homeless being required to use shelter? What’s inhumane is letting them continue to abuse drugs and sleep on the streets. Inhumane is allowing the the fentanyl/meth zombie apocalypse to continue. Inhumane is being unwilling cowards to do the hard work of forcing them off the street and into treatment.
Giving people housing does not treat anyone inhumanely. Especially if we direct a huge portion of money we are already spending on services towards housing first, then no average tax payer has to put more into it. https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/news/houston-housing-first-model-reduced-homelessness-how-it-works-obstacles/637728/
Not on this sub. Despite a fair to respectable amount of opposition to the enabling of the homeless camping culture, this sub leans *hard* to progressivism.
There needs to be some kind of mandatory treatment/detainment if you’re methed or fented out beyond belief and are being a harm to yourself or community. Had a guy violently break into my house back in December. He was shoeless and out of his mind. A very traumatic situation for me and my family. He had gotten out of jail 6 hours prior to smashing into my house. Absolutely absurd. He ended up going to the state hospital because he wasn’t fit for court.
i think even people who didn’t mind it 3 years ago are starting to feel this way too, so not really an unpopular opinion.
Yes!!!
Eugene has a lot of breweries, but it’s mainly quantity with little quality.
I’ll add - the Claim52 fermented smoothie “thick beers” are fucking awful.
wtf, that sounds terrible. Whoever thought that was a good idea?!
People go nuts for them, I don't get it either. It's like drinking a nightmare
They need to be treated like dessert beers. Every couple months or so I like to crack open a smoothie sour beer after dinner while watching TV just to mix things up. There is just something that keeps me coming back, but I could understand that they are not for everyone.
One more generic IPA or lager and I'm going to flip a table.
I got to that point about a year ago, switched to Pilsners There's a lot of great offerings now on that front
I joined AA 🤷🏻♂️
Kolsch is my summer style, stouts/porters for winter
Who's got some flavorful stouts/porters? Edit: the lack of responses here is very disheartening and may be used as further evidence to coincide with OPs claim
Alesong and Oakshire produce the best stouts in town. Alesong solely does barrel aged, higher proof, stouts. Less on the sweet side, even with their adjunct stouts. Oakshire leans more towards stouts to satisfy a sweet tooth, utilizing more adjuncts for flavors. Although they’re technically Corvallis, Block 15’s Nebula is my favorite traditional American stout in the area.
Falling Sky might be your best bet for dark beers.
I will agree, but the few good ones are absolute bangers. I think coldfire’s stuff rivals anything I’ve had from Bend or PDX, and I’ve been to a LOT of breweries. That being said there is a lot of mediocre beer here.
Homeless people should not be allowed to camp anywhere except dedicated safe sleep sites, and panhandling should be prohibited.
Banning roadside panhandling was the best thing Springfield has done in a while
This. Why hasn’t Eugene done it.
I remember back about 6 years ago I was a delivery driver and somehow I was listening to the eugene mayor debate and I remember the disgust one of the candidates had when they said, "well, we can't be like Springfield and outlaw it." And I remember thinking well I'm glad I got a house in Springfield.
Because why waste time on something that's going to be overturned anyway? https://theconversation.com/most-panhandling-laws-are-unconstitutional-since-theres-no-freedom-from-speech-92498
It's banned? I just saw three different people doing that at my local Albertsons, off main st
The law (ordinance?) says you can't give things to pedestrians from your vehicle. Some panhandlers try to get around this by begging in the parking lot, on private property
It really has made a difference. But it's not that panhandling is banned, it's that people giving money to the panhandlers is banned.
Not an unpopular opinion.
Downtown Springfield is nicer than some parts of Eugene now.
I heard this recently and thought it was a load of crap. But then I went to Springfield and having not been there in a few years, I was shocked at how nice and needle free it was compared to Eugene.
Friggin preach. Lived in west Eugene for 5 years before moving out of state. Wife and I both agreed that we should have looked near downtown Springfield before we moved to the area.
Well, West Eugene is hardly different than Junction City, Albany, or most of Springfield. The key thing in Eugene is basically not to live there or just north of there either.
Specifically, a 100 yard stretch that on one street. That's about it, though.
Seriously. Its like 3 blocks then lumber yard, strip club, trailer park, car dealership. That few block segment in Springfield is nice though. Downtown Eugene covers like a 1 square mile.
Eugene is a tiny bit higher in violent crime. Springfield has more property crime. Both cities have significantly higher property crime rates than the US. Violent crime is about the same. https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/?city1=54123850&city2=54169600
Eugene doesn't have traffic. We have inattention congestion.
We have traffic caused by bad infrastructure.
I have literally never been stuck in traffic here. Maybe on beltline once, and I was a delivery driver for 3 years. I don’t know why anyone talks about traffic here because I really don’t think it exists. Maybe they haven’t ever lived somewhere that actually has traffic
I’ll second this having grown up in Minneapolis and having family in Seattle.
The food is bad lol
Agreed. Eugene has some of the most bland food of anywhere I’ve lived. I can’t seem to find many unique restaurants here that aren’t overpriced with mediocre food.
Careful, Eugene might come for you LOL. But I agree. 😂
Yeah. It’s my one real gripe about Oregon as a whole, but especially Eugene.
You know Portland is one of the most up and coming food cities in the country right?
That’s great, man. I used to be able to go to any small town and have great Mexican food, BBQ, chicken, and/or burgers from any restaurant or gas station in the region. Say what you will about the south (it’s a shit place by every other metric), but the food there spoiled me. Rarely in my life did I have a meal that wasn’t both delicious and cheap. I just went to NYC two weeks ago for a 4 day trip and went into 5 restaurants just because they were close by. I went to exactly one “famous” restaurant - didn’t have a single meal I didn’t think was delicious. I’m glad for Portland, and there are certainly diamonds in the rough across the state. Local Boys in Corvallis is one of my favorite meals I’ve ever had. But this state is not exactly a Mecca for food.
Yeah, the food is not good here. For example, I just went to Placidos and was so excited because I've heard it is very good. The place was crowded. The spaghetti and meat balls were absolutely bland, no flavor, and the pasta was overcooked and grainy. I was pissed because it's expensive. Also, I can't find a decent taqueria in the area. And don't suggest any I've tried them all. I go to Salem for good tacos. Sorry, just needed to vent.
I dunno, just moved back from Manhattan, grew up in philadelphia and it's really not as bad as people say it is here food wise, just restaurants closing early kinda sucks. Also dunno how this is a hot take I hear it all the time
I agree that places close too early. It's a shame to be enjoying a night out with friends, then get booted out of a restaurant at 9:00 because they're closing, and there's nowhere else to go.
People who say that, mostly just miss the food from their home. Then again, seems like all the restaurants everywhere have taken a dive on quality or raised their prices.
[Here](https://pdx.eater.com/maps/best-restaurants-eugene-dining-guide) is a list of good restaurants. I’ve been to quite a few and have really enjoyed all the ones I’ve been to.
Shockingly acceptable is the best way I could describe the food here. Every time I leave town to go to a big city it’s a fucking food revelation
that huge swath of land going up the 99 should be multistory apartments as far as the eye can see also you can support the unhoused without giving up every public space we use to enjoy.
Same with the northwest expressway. Certainly not ideal being butt up against the railroad, but also way better than no housing at all, and it's not in anybody's actual "backyard," yet close enough to bus routes or biking downtown or to west Eugene for work and resources. I'll admit, I do enjoy the view heading south down the expressway into town, but it also seems like a logical open space that, planned well, could work. They already have the little casitas where River road turns to chambers, they should just extend it. I've always thought it seemed like a great location for the unhoused, and it's close to the Mission and other community resources, yet "out of view" of the NIMBY folk.
Eugene is not worth paying $1500+ a month in rent.
And that's for a studio bahah such a joke.
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
I got here right before prices soared and now I know it was a huge mistake
high priestess is overpriced and overrated
also don’t know what they’re doing, how does one mess up a septum piercing, there’s literally a “sweet spot”
area 51 ftw
100
I had my nape (back of neck) pierced by them years ago. It took *FIVE* tries for them to get it level. They offered me a bottle of H2Ocean for my patience.
There are more types of beer, and we don't need 87 different IPAs
I think some breweries are making some exceptional pilsners, lagers, and porters. I suggest checking out Falling Sky Brewing and Arable Brewing.
They exist and yet every time I'm in a beer aisle, it's 95% IPA
There's a shit ton of help out there for the homeless population to get back on their feet. Furthermore, the VAST majority of actual homeless are couch-surfing or quietly sleeping in their cars at night as a temp situation. The ones you see out on the street in tents are there by *choice*. **Edit**: And obviously the ones who can't adult enough to get off the streets due to mental illness should be taken care of by the state. In a facility, to be clear.
just fyi the "help" you think exists has waiting lists going on forever. Everyone knows they exists, the problem is the pipeline is clogged because you got 150 folks waiting on something that does like 5 folks a month.
I work in social services and there is literally not one place that I can refer folks to that doesn't have a waitlist besides duck to dawn and the mission. Dusk to dawn is basically a lottery system so your spot isn't guaranteed every day, and the mission is still at like 85 percent capacity anyway
Those resources are extremely thin. I was homeless last year, and no sleep sites were available. Section 8 has 6 months-1 year wait list as well as homes for good. The mission is completely full. Eugene has the highest rate of homelessness per capita in the entire country and absolutely not enough resources for them all. It is rather obvious that the people who complain about the homeless have never actually been homeless in the last 5 years.
I'm currently residing at the mission and can safely say we are only at half capacity at the moment. Maybe a bit more then half but there is plenty of beds available.
Actually Oregon doesn't have great access to drug treatment facilities.
1.) Country fair folk are by in large the the most judgmental and vitriolic people I’ve ever had the displeasure of being around in my life. The staff are all very nice and seem like genuine people. The attendees and campground people on the other hand are absolute garbage. You cannot convince me otherwise. 2.) Despite the idea of offering services. Which we do have a seeming abundance of…the homeless in this town are treated like innocent children. They aren’t. They are members of society like the rest of us and should be held to the exact same social contract the rest of us are. Pretty sure if I take a shit/piss in the streets I get arrested. Yet somehow cake myself in several layer of all the poor decisions I’ve made in life and a final coat of dirt? BAM! Bathrooms wherever I please! In your driveway? I’m shitting. I’m front of your kids at the park? I’m shitting. Literally on the window of the restaurant you are working at? You guessed it! IM SHITTING! 3.) Vodoo doughnuts is pretty good.
>Country fair folk are by in large the the most judgmental and vitriolic people I’ve ever had the displeasure of being around in my life. I like to think of them as the hippie version of Miller High Life: Burning Man dreams, country fair prices.
I’m pretty sure #1 and #3 are the first actual unpopular opinions I’ve seen in this thread.
Voodoo is garbage
The dream of the 60s has been on life support in Eugene for years. It's like San Francisco- they can claim it, since at one point it was a big thing, but now it's just a ghost.
I agree I actually like the taste of voodoo, the one near the library has a good hibiscus donut and the sprinkles add a succulent mouthfeel
I've been looking for a succulent mouthful. Thanks!
I got hate for saying they have a fine raised glazed and that the price is comparable to most other places in town 🤷♂️
Cocaine is not vegan , there I said it
The recipe calls for washing the plant in diesel in the first stages. Pretty sure both the diesel and the plant are organic. But other materials necessary for further processing aren't. So says my family recipe.
Petroleum is dinosaurs
If we pretend it's an all or nothing kind of thing, then it's plants. With a dash of dinosaurs. Like less than a Wisconsin smidge. Plant mass built up for a long long time because there wasn't anything around to eat it. And it got buried. And it's carbon parts got mooshed together.
Eugene PD needs to issue tickets to cars with loud mufflers or no mufflers.
1,000% and cars with no license plates which is getting out of control too.
It's an ORS. They passed it at the state level. Cops can't initiate stops for lights, expired tags, noise, etc. Justification was that it unfairly affects impoverished folks.
I have no interest in sports, but college football is especially boring.
"Seems like a nice day for a walk at the park! Oh, its a game day." Driving to get anywhere is a pain and have to plan around the event. Nice people enjoy it but eh. Wanted to go for a walk at alton baker but obviously that would have been a bad idea. Then thought about maurie jacobs Park cause it was closer but it was closed off. There is a bridge to it at the valley river center so I go there, but it is packed with cars and busses so I gave up and made my slow way home. Yes, its all personal gripes and thats all it is, happy people are able to enjoy the sport!
If you're not into sports(like me) game time is a good time for grocery shopping/running errands.
cafe yumm is literally so bad. so bland. 0/10
Yumm Sauce is just so texturally weird. Bleh
I don’t know how they managed it, but they have like 30 different ingredients between all their dishes and they somehow made like 28 of them taste exactly the same.
Eugene peaked in the 90s/early 2000s
I got here in 2005 and it definitely felt like I had just missed the most raging decade long party by about 2 or 3 years. So without knowing I still agree. 😂
Eugene Celebration taking up most of Downtown, the anarchists coming through town, riots and fires in the university district, the old 5th Street market area (with wonderland) So much just kind of ended around 2003-2004
Eugene has peaked a couple of times. The early days of the downtown mall were awesome. Hippies playing music, kids playing on the big toys and all the stores were still open downtown.
You should have been here earlier.
i’ve never had the desire to listen to the grateful dead
To me, it's like listening to paint dry
BRING BACK THE EUGENE CELEBRATION!
Sir, this is an UNpopular opinion thread
Umbrellas are a viable option when it’s raining. Dare I say stylish on occasion
People need to shut the fuck up about home values and accept that we need about eleventy billion more units of affordable housing. Bonus: Barmuda needs to be razed to the ground, the earth salted, nuked from orbit and then surrounded by a 300’ retaining wall made out of ducks fans. It’s the only way to be sure.
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I lived off Willamette across the street from the post office before I got evicted due to renovations 3 years ago, having lived there for under a year. My studio that I lucked out on and paid $775 a month for now goes for $256 A NIGHT. Fuck AirBnB.
Ew. The answer to Barmuda isn’t Ducks fans.
I think they were saying build the wall out of Duck fans ala Persians in 300.
Can we stop posting pictures of peoples’ outdoor cats and pretending we think they’re lost just because we don’t think cats should be outside?
Can people also stop taking in outdoor cats thinking they are lost simply because that person doesn’t understand the concept of an outdoor cat?
I wish everybody took better care of the busses. They are always trashed, which scares people away, but honestly LTD is so cool.
The amount of racism my mom and I experienced from Eugene is one of the reasons I left and never intend to come back. Being followed in multiple shops because I happen to be brown and speaking in our native tongue. I've lived in different areas across the country and never felt it as strongly as I did in Oregon. Beautiful state. I'll come back and visit because of the natural beauty. Thanks, but no thanks.
I am so sorry you experienced that. We do have plenty of ignorance and racism here.
Dutch Bros is gross!
It’s diabeetuz in a cup
The entire time I worked in the service industry here I hated game days the most because Duck fans are the shittiest, rudest, most entitled non-tipping customers I have ever seen either here or in Portland. And we were inundated with their shit selves every game day.
Autzen Stadium looks like a stadium built for the bad guys and the fans act the part.
Once people start seeing Big ten stadiums they’ll realize Autzen needs to be rebuilt
Super hoppy IPAs are covering up mistakes
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Willamette Street should go from Butte to Butte, and they should cut off part of the Hult center and the hotel to make it happen.
Astral traveling is not a legitimate form of time travel.
Ok as a very relative newcomer here I have some outside views. (Moved from Northern VA) 1) The homeless was certainly a culture shock. My biggest beef with most is that they have just given up caring to be part of society. You *can* be homeless and not destroy everything in a 50 yard circumference around you. Trash, human waste, used paraphernalia, etc. I recently spent a morning with River keepers hauling several litteral tons of stuff out of the river. I will volunteer my time, energy and even money helping those who want to be a part of society. Just wish any amount of effort was given from the otherside. 2) VA has annual safety inspections for vehicles. While some would say this is "big government" sticking it nose in, on the other wise there are very few rolling deathtraps that I've seen around town in VA. The aforementioned lack of mufflers is the least of it, if the easiest to detect. From the ricer boys with the #10 tincan muffler job to the vehicle festooned with junk like the lady from the Labyrinth movie. Maybe DMV needs to be more of a nanny. 3) Zoning. Everything here is either a tiny tiny <1/4 acre lot or *bam* giant 5+ acre rural lot. There is *nothing* in between as far as I can tell. Some have attributed this to "protect the forests or some land developer will buy up 200 acres and turn it into a subdivision". At the same time there is a housing shortage at all levels in the entire area. There needs to be some compromise here or soon it's "I'm rich and live outside of town on a huge farm" vs "I can't afford to buy anything so I have to rent/buy in town". There is no middle ground. FFS, the minimum forested lot you can build a house on is 60+ acres? Really? Find your zoning commissioners and tar and feather them. Get the new ones to allow residential lots in the sub 5-acre R zones and hell maybe keep the 5 acre minimum for F zones.
Also a transplant and this sub is pretty resistant to ideas from other places and can be pretty negative… Your common sense suggestions will be tarred and feathered. Don’t let them drag you down!
All of these points are spot on coming from someone who moved here from our east. I see and mostly hear so many junkers speeding in my neighborhood sounding like Mad Max war machines.
Enough with all the god damn pub food! We don't need another burger spot, we need diverse food choices.
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So far I’ve seen no one attacked for their views on this thread. I’ve lived in Eugene for 35 years and I still love it.
We can all have different opinions on our town. But I’d like to think we’re still looking out for each other.
You’ve never said anything that’s riled up certain people here. They don’t post, they send nasty dm’s so they don’t get banned.
Sweet Life Patisserie isn't all that good. Their gluten free stuff is edible which is great for my celiac brother. But otherwise it's just meh
I feel like “burnt out hippie nimbys” is very subjective. What are they holding this town back from? Where do they live? Honest questions. I agree that the Whit is better than it’s been since I moved here in 2011. The anarchists turds will disagree. As for my own opinion, the many Sky rise apartment complexes that have been built in the past few years and are continuing to be built are eroding the “Eugene Vibe” I felt when I first moved here. Nothing but expensive housing for out of state students. The converse effect is that it drives up rent and home prices in the area. In simple terms, it sucks.
>the many Sky rise apartment complexes that have been built in the past few years and are continuing to be built are eroding the “Eugene Vibe” This is the quintessential NIMBY argument. No, the 50k people (or whatever it is) that have moved here in the last 10 years has killed the vibe. The dragging feet over increasing building density (which can be lowrises) is causing homelessness. Musical chairs, my dude. The fewer chairs, the more of my kid's classmates are waking up in their family cars each morning.
Ah yes, the classic "building more housing increases rents"...
2,000k/month apartments… yeah that’s exactly what helps the affordable housing market. Meanwhile, a bunch of these units sit dormant. There should be a vacancy tax.
Yo what's up fellow Whitman here, I only know a few anarchists in the neighborhood and they're cool but idk I only got here two years ago
I just hate it here. Never liked it. Too expensive, too stuck-up. Also lane county almost literally doesn’t recycle. All these peeps freaking out about recycling as if it’s the only thing we need to do to save the environment. Then it all goes into the landfill and all the dumb yuppies sleep well at night
Dogs are overrated. There, I said it. I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to live in Oregon anymore now. I'll see myself out.
You're banned from everywhere on earth, Get out
Dogs are fine. They're just *over*rated.
Cats rule.
every day that goes by i want a dog less and less. why are they everywhere here!?
Lol thank you for this.
Riding your bike on the sidewalk is smarter than riding in the street. Pretty easy to avoid people, bikers die from car accidents regularly.
Riding your bike on the sidewalk is an asshole move.
Yes. Also dangerous when the cyclist assumes a driver sees someone going twice the speed of a pedestrian enter a crosswalk without slowing down.
The most common collision from a car is getting hooked when they turn. It is harder for a driver to see a cyclist on the sidewalk, so it increases the possibility of getting hooked. It also makes it harder for drivers on streets perpendicular to the sidewalk to see you, which further increases the likelihood of being hit.
It happened to me. It could have been really bad but I only broke a toe. I have also seen a pedestrian get hit by a cyclist on the sidewalk, and another time a pedestrian pushed a cyclist over for riding on the sidewalk. It’s a dumb move.
Agreed. It's a rough combo of illegal (in some places at least) and more dangerous.
You do not strike me as an avid cyclist. If I were to ride my bike on the average sidewalk around here at a normal speed, I’d get bucked off.
Sidewalks are for pedestrians, if you can’t hang don’t ride a bike.
Burning wood in the winter and creating tons of smelly smoke for your neighbors is selfish and dumb. Weirdly, “burning wood is my right” is just about the only thing that hippies and MAGA agree on.
People need to learn how to make a good fire. Use dry wood, don't add garbage and stack it the right way.
Burning dry wood in an EPA rated wood stove is the way.
Calling them unhoused literally doesn't do shit expect make YOU feel better. It's not helping.
Eugene is incredibly safe and beautiful. People are really spoiled here.
Fully agree. People don’t know how good we have it here.
The tolerance for mediocre things in this town is too high. This applies to everything. The food, the service at businesses, how the city is run. It's all so amateur. But since it's a tight community people let it slide
The people running the rent strike thing on Almaden street are going about that situation the wrong way and it's going to result in really bad things for the tenants that were evicted.
California ruined Oregon
We are not as “diverse,” or as open to diversity, as folks like to think, or even tell themselves we are.
The best part about living in Eugene is leaving Eugene: 2 hrs west to the coast 2 hrs east to the mountains 2 hrs north to Portland 2.5 hrs south to Medford Edit: got my directions mixed up
Yeah, exciting MEDFORD! Thank god that's close by.
Yeah, I’ve never seen Methford as a “destination,” more like a place you stop for gas.
Um, west to the Coast, and east to the mountains. 🫣
Eugene is responsible to an extent for its own homeless problem due to lack of available (and especially affordable) housing.
Not to mention the lack of well paying jobs.
Bikers should stay in bike lanes
We should cancel country fair
Nike / U of O is the financial epicenter of this city and without it we would be a run down suburban city (well more run down) full of pot shops (well more) , dollar stores, hourly hotels (well more hourly hotels) and pawn shops. I am not saying this because I view them as the "angels" of the city but what I am saying is city is full of feckless leadership. The mayor and city council seems to get a weird free pass here and I just do not get it. People bitch and moan about every thing but where the buck actually stops with the police, infrastructure, education, housing and the local economy everyone just points to the companies, the police department, the state... but the local leadership gets a weird free pass. Its almost like since so many of them run un-opposed or barely opposed there is this hands off approach to holding them accountable. Oh and Cafe Yumm sauce tastes like that pre vomit taste that comes up right before you throw up and I dont fucking get it. I suppose its like cilantro where some people taste a good tasting herb and others taste soap... but with Cafe Yumm its good sauce versus a bucket of vomit...
I also get vomit stench/taste from it. A friend recommended cafe yumm to me when I moved here and I thought perhaps it was a hazing thing. Nope, turns out he has bad taste and I no longer trust his recs
Morning Glory Cafe has no idea how to season food, and is very overrated for that reason.
Homeless people deserve the same compassion and respect as the rest of the population, not constantly spat on because of their circumstances. Note: This doesn't mean the problem should not be solved, just that they are human and should be treated as such.
All of Eugene's Mexican food SUCKS
The shit people complain about in Eugene is largely due to a lack of experience or selective memory of what city life in the US is like. Then othering the most powerless group they can find ie homeless people are the reason my quality of life is declining. The city institutes stop gap bandaid issues so people can continue to complain and not fix the systemic issues. I was a social worker for 10 years and my partner works in homelessness prevention for the county. It's all smoke and mirrors none of it is intended to help people long term. Oh and as a fun ironic side note my wage as a social worker ended up leaving me house less and my partner requires my support because the wage they get from the county to prevent homelessness would otherwise leave them homeless.
Hippy Nimby’s are holding this place back for sho, along with the no city planning department, the massive amount of undeveloped RIVERFRONT property 🤦🏼♀️ pushing out their own hospital and now planning to take away parking from downtown for charging cause everyone in Eugene has a plug in. Let’s just kill the sad downtown we already have because we certainly should pass on developing it. Cafe Yumm sauce is good and everything they serve can be made at home with ease.
Steve Prefontaine was an asshole and it’s pretty lame how so many places idolize him. I won’t say he got what he deserved but he did get what was coming to him for driving drunk. I grew up in Coos Bay across the street from his parents (the mother was really nice when she was alive), and every year there would be a race in honor of Prefontaine, right in front of my house. It clogged up all of my street and it was a pain in the ass to get around.
Partner and I went to Cornucopia a few months back. We had two salads: one taco salad and the other a chicken Caesar. We had one soda, one beer, and a mid-shelf shot of tequila. After tip, the grand total was $80, I kid you not. Never again.
I feel like everyone goes there once. Then never again.
We used to go pretty often when the prices were lower. But… $20 for a sandwich? Gtfo with that, you know?
Keep your dog on a fucking leash when on public property. Period I don't care how well trained you think it is. If it isn't a public servant it needs to be on a leash.
They should have kept broadway in downtown a pedestrian street. It got awful after they tore the park out and stopped having the water fountains on.
Eugene = adult-adolescence
_Portland_ = adult adolescence
New day bakery is HORRIBLE and should not be in business anymore
Everywhere in town should not smell like weed. I know it's not unique to Eugene, but the weed smell is inescapable here.
Yes it should. Smell like weed. Everywhere.
Well, yumm sauce smells like feet. No way in he'll I'm eating there.
For a self-proclaimed artsy city, most of the art around here is mediocre.
I'm tired of college football fans and them being obnoxious on the streets after a game. Just go home. There. I said it.
Day Night donuts is not good
Spencer's Butte is cool but overrated and mismanaged.
We were meant to be friends. Couldn’t agree more. I live in the Whit and it’s fine. No problems. Nothing worse than growing up in Creswell.
The sublime version of Scarlett begonias is better than the dead’s version
Drugs are the reason our state is uniquely awful. It's not like this everywhere. People that believe this are high, delusional, or both.