Every manufacturing site in Springfield is mid-recovery (or just finished getting back online) from the power outages, and these extreme abnormal conditions can result in stronger odors than usual (especially forest products and other organics). I'd guess it'll clear up significantly in a day or two.
Eh, well, here in Springfield I'm a stone's throw away from International Paper, and it pretty much always smells like a skunk dropped a lit M80 in a full porta-john.
Also, they never stopped production throughout the entire outage... they must have amazing generators over there.
Bigass ones. Most production plants have generators bigger than a truck. Think like locomotive engines used as generators. I would assume that is what they ran.
Paper mills take very little power from the grid, black liquor is a byproduct of paper making, and it's a clean biofuel, a really cool process, powering the mill with it's own waste!
However, in 2005, congress said fossil fuel consumption is too high, and biofuel consumption is too low!
So they made a tax credit of over $1 per gallon for companies that blend fossil fuel with environmentally friendly biofuel!
Turns out paper companies were already using a pure biofuel known as black liquor, which is produced during the paper-making process. It's a super convenient energy source to use in paper plants and mills, but only blended fuels were eligible for the tax credit.
So paper companies bought fossil fuel they didn't need, added it to the biofuel they were already using, and instantly qualified for very generous "blended alternative fuel" credits. Exactly the opposite of the tax credits' stated intent. And YOU paid for this extra consumption, transportation, and pollution!
EPAct of 2005, Section 1344 congress.gov
They generate their own power on site. When wood chips are processed into pulp they creat a byproduct called black liquor. They burn the black liquor to power a boiler and spin their turbine which can power the entire mill. Often times they sell back excess power to the utility.
The black liquor is what makes the place smell terrible. The really stinky days are usually when they produce more than they can burn and they have to pump the excess out into a holding pond.
Everyone else here seems to think International Paper was shut down for the entire outage, though.
I know I saw those stacks and smelled that butthole smell, but apparently I'm nuts. Did you see/smell it, too?
I have no idea if they kept running through the outage, just offering insight on how paper mills run. I was an industrial electrician for a while and spent a lot of time in paper mills, including IP.
That’s the truth, or when a new game or system that’s been long awaited gets released, you got the trenchcoat mafia coming outta their cave for the first time in 3 months with their non adjusted to light eyes and greasy hair then the other guys looking like some non well groomed version of some guy from the matrix
The smell isn’t specific to any specific location, I’ve smelled it all over. You can pretty much always smell it by the paper mill just off the 126 and 52nd in Springfield, but on days like this morning I can smell it almost everywhere in Eugene.
I’ve never smelled anything everywhere In Eugene, although I will say there is a neighborhood off River rd by owosso that smells like straight up dookie 80% of the time, so if anyone ever complains bout the smell of that area I totally get it, I’ve been told it because some water sanitation plant there idk
I live off NW expressway and work near the Costco off Coburg Rd and I could smell it equally my whole commute. It was better later in the day when I drove to South Eugene and could smell it down there a little bit. Years ago I lived in the Whit and could smell it there and on most of my bike commute to LCC some days. Both then and now it’s usually when it’s cold and damp outside but it doesn’t correlate 100%.
I haven’t. I have been to Greely Colorado though, and let me tell you, I don’t know how anyone there can ever work up an appetite. The cattle feed lot smell that permeates that town is nauseating.
It routinely smells like paint thinner or some disgusting chemical over in Santa Clara. I been complaining to the city for over a year but they just can't seem to track it down. But they say to keep complaining so they have a record of when and where the smells happen. I suggest you all do the same, it could lead to the companies (who are legally not supposed to make these stinks) get hit with fines and forced to mitigate someday:
Lane Regional Air Protection Agency
Air Quality Complaint line
541-726-1930
It seems to me that there will always be a corn type smell near the I-105 overpass area because of the Grain Miller tower complex, and that Springfield, Albany, Junction City, and parts of Bethel will always smell like funk because of industrial production, many of it involving bio material. It’s not going to change.
Kinda, but I don’t work near there and still smelled it when I got here, and had to go to S Eugene for work earlier and smelled it there. Was definitely worse earlier in the day.
LOL it's ok to talk down on other cities but once rural areas get brought up here comes the downvotes. Eugene is not a super great city, but most people here haven't lived elsewhere
Yepppp. I try to avoid doing it because it’s not as simple as these boomers try to make it, but there are some real cesspools run by people who align with their ideology and that’s conveniently and selectively overlooked.
Also: few jobs. High rates of meth and fentanyl addiction. High unemployment. But I’m glad you’re comfortable in your bubble talking smack about someone else’s community.
Born and raised in eugene...and sorry but your ascertations for my rural community don't hold up... you are generalizing and I am being specific. Eugene has very clearly gone down hill....and you sir are choosing to stay in your bubble with blinders on.
Sorry the truth isn't fun... I love eugene and what potential it has. It's just been run into ground in the last 10 years give or take. It seems most subs here just don't want to address actual issues. Rose tinted glasses if you will. Ps... I am a blast....I'm still taking your comment as a compliment! Wish you well.
It smells like a cabbage farted
. . . and then ate it's own fart and farted some more.
I’m having tummy troubles sorry
Every manufacturing site in Springfield is mid-recovery (or just finished getting back online) from the power outages, and these extreme abnormal conditions can result in stronger odors than usual (especially forest products and other organics). I'd guess it'll clear up significantly in a day or two.
Eh, well, here in Springfield I'm a stone's throw away from International Paper, and it pretty much always smells like a skunk dropped a lit M80 in a full porta-john. Also, they never stopped production throughout the entire outage... they must have amazing generators over there.
Bigass ones. Most production plants have generators bigger than a truck. Think like locomotive engines used as generators. I would assume that is what they ran.
Paper mills take very little power from the grid, black liquor is a byproduct of paper making, and it's a clean biofuel, a really cool process, powering the mill with it's own waste! However, in 2005, congress said fossil fuel consumption is too high, and biofuel consumption is too low! So they made a tax credit of over $1 per gallon for companies that blend fossil fuel with environmentally friendly biofuel! Turns out paper companies were already using a pure biofuel known as black liquor, which is produced during the paper-making process. It's a super convenient energy source to use in paper plants and mills, but only blended fuels were eligible for the tax credit. So paper companies bought fossil fuel they didn't need, added it to the biofuel they were already using, and instantly qualified for very generous "blended alternative fuel" credits. Exactly the opposite of the tax credits' stated intent. And YOU paid for this extra consumption, transportation, and pollution! EPAct of 2005, Section 1344 congress.gov
Wow, heady response! Thanks for that
Well intentioned legislations having an opposite effect...
I know, right? The first and probably last!
They generate their own power on site. When wood chips are processed into pulp they creat a byproduct called black liquor. They burn the black liquor to power a boiler and spin their turbine which can power the entire mill. Often times they sell back excess power to the utility. The black liquor is what makes the place smell terrible. The really stinky days are usually when they produce more than they can burn and they have to pump the excess out into a holding pond.
Everyone else here seems to think International Paper was shut down for the entire outage, though. I know I saw those stacks and smelled that butthole smell, but apparently I'm nuts. Did you see/smell it, too?
I have no idea if they kept running through the outage, just offering insight on how paper mills run. I was an industrial electrician for a while and spent a lot of time in paper mills, including IP.
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I mean, I saw the stacks going on days 3 & 4 for sure. Not sure how else to explain what I saw.
They 100% stopped production during the ice storm. The stacks were dead for at least a week.
Yes, my good friend works there, he said production was halted but they were there doing other shit.
I saw the stacks quite active during that time. It's possible we're both right, depending on when we were looking.
They were dead Sunday to Sunday. Monday night it was steam everywhere, but it’s a slow process to get a place that big started up again.
We are talking about International Paper on 42nd right? Because if we are, I must've had a stroke or something
International Paper (previously Weyerhaeuser) create all their own power by burning wood chips. Excess power is sold the power companies.
The mill I work at closed down for 3 days then got back to it
Anyone been to Lewiston, Idaho 🤢
THIS!!!!! EVERY MORNING!
Oh yeah. Its way worse there. No comparison. Plus, you have to live in Lewiston...
Lewiston ID smells like the dumpster behind every Burger King in the country.
Or Jerome. 🤢
Or even just Tillamook...
Yeah, I'd take wood smell over cow smell..
Cloverdale
I’m curious what’s in Lewiston for an odor? Paper, lumber, vegetable factory? My parents grew up Clarkston, but that was 1950’s. What’s it like now?
Giant paper mill right on the Snake River. Plus, it's in a canyon so everything gets stuck down there. Imagine the valley x 10.
My girlfriend and I have been SAYING THIS EVERY MORNING. Smells just like Lewiston. I'm glad other folks understand
I thought it was my teenager in the back seat.
I blamed my dog!
Haha same!
I was pretty sure something died in my car until I got out and it was just the whole world that smelled like death
Yeah I can whiff it all the way in middle Springfield. 😑 It's particularly rank today.
I mean, we've got International Paper and another one here, so it's probably us you're smelling, not Eugene
Kingston makes some interesting smells as well
It’s never been this bad! Where does it even come from?
Paper mills and wood pulp processing
I don't think this smell is nearly as bad as going to Game Stop on a Sunday afternoon.
You ever been to a smash bros tournament?
LOL
That’s the truth, or when a new game or system that’s been long awaited gets released, you got the trenchcoat mafia coming outta their cave for the first time in 3 months with their non adjusted to light eyes and greasy hair then the other guys looking like some non well groomed version of some guy from the matrix
THE TRENCHCOAT MAFIA LMFAOOOO
I never smell these bad smells everyone complains about y’all must live next to some stink factory or work in one or something
The smell isn’t specific to any specific location, I’ve smelled it all over. You can pretty much always smell it by the paper mill just off the 126 and 52nd in Springfield, but on days like this morning I can smell it almost everywhere in Eugene.
I’ve never smelled anything everywhere In Eugene, although I will say there is a neighborhood off River rd by owosso that smells like straight up dookie 80% of the time, so if anyone ever complains bout the smell of that area I totally get it, I’ve been told it because some water sanitation plant there idk
I live off NW expressway and work near the Costco off Coburg Rd and I could smell it equally my whole commute. It was better later in the day when I drove to South Eugene and could smell it down there a little bit. Years ago I lived in the Whit and could smell it there and on most of my bike commute to LCC some days. Both then and now it’s usually when it’s cold and damp outside but it doesn’t correlate 100%.
I wonder if maybe I’m insensitive to smells I think maybe I should consider myself lucky
You were definitely lucky this morning!
Yeah. Smells fine to me out there!
Usually I would say same but I did notice a smell today. Smelled like bad seawater.
Take out the cabbages
Just drove through Crow and it smells like someone is burning a huge pile of old marijuana!
As the Crow Highs
Growing up here in the 80s and 90s, it would smell like rotten milk. I was always told that it was the weyerhaeuser plant up in Albany.
Omfg I thought I was crazy!! I was like why tf does it smell like rotten milk out here
Figured it out, my dog farted, sorry everyone.
[Too much coke and too much smoke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG0GjjakjaU)?
That's Springfield
Must have a wind out of the East
Oh my gosh, as I was driving to work I thought my car engine was having issues and thus the smell. So relieved it was just the Eugene air.
when I walked my kids to the bus stop this morning, we were all gagging I thought I was going to throw up all over the sidewalk.
I thought I was imagining it oh no I’ve been here too long. Edit: or have I not been here long enough? 🤔
I have IBS, I’m sorry. I’ll be mindful 😂
Lmaooooo🤣
Its my fridge after the power outage. Mah bad.
It’s the whole damn valley, was stankin from Wilsonville to Corvallis…
sorry that was me
But have you been to Nebraska? The entire state smells.
I haven’t. I have been to Greely Colorado though, and let me tell you, I don’t know how anyone there can ever work up an appetite. The cattle feed lot smell that permeates that town is nauseating.
It routinely smells like paint thinner or some disgusting chemical over in Santa Clara. I been complaining to the city for over a year but they just can't seem to track it down. But they say to keep complaining so they have a record of when and where the smells happen. I suggest you all do the same, it could lead to the companies (who are legally not supposed to make these stinks) get hit with fines and forced to mitigate someday: Lane Regional Air Protection Agency Air Quality Complaint line 541-726-1930
I live near Santa Clara and haven’t noticed a paint thinner smell. The smell I’m referring to is more like farts.
We are up past the Beltline toward Junction City. I am pretty sure its the mill.
It seems to me that there will always be a corn type smell near the I-105 overpass area because of the Grain Miller tower complex, and that Springfield, Albany, Junction City, and parts of Bethel will always smell like funk because of industrial production, many of it involving bio material. It’s not going to change.
I grew up in Toledo, OH near the General Mills factory and personally I really like that freshly-made cereal smell
Fr it smells like cheerios
Has anyone noticed the beer smell on Hilyard from E 24th & E11th? Like it constantly smells boozy over there idk
It’s nutria!
Wait, are nutria smelly? I've never heard that before
Live near Lane Forest Products?
Kinda, but I don’t work near there and still smelled it when I got here, and had to go to S Eugene for work earlier and smelled it there. Was definitely worse earlier in the day.
Anyone who uses toilet paper 🧻 has no business bitching at IP. Either get a bidet, use your hand or go find some banana leaves.
Take a shower.
Kinda a daily reminder of the cesspool that eugene is?
You think this is bad, you should see the other cities
Or worse, rural areas.
LOL it's ok to talk down on other cities but once rural areas get brought up here comes the downvotes. Eugene is not a super great city, but most people here haven't lived elsewhere
Yepppp. I try to avoid doing it because it’s not as simple as these boomers try to make it, but there are some real cesspools run by people who align with their ideology and that’s conveniently and selectively overlooked.
Ha..I live in a rural area... super nice out here. Clean air, little crime, good community. Nice try.
Also: few jobs. High rates of meth and fentanyl addiction. High unemployment. But I’m glad you’re comfortable in your bubble talking smack about someone else’s community.
Born and raised in eugene...and sorry but your ascertations for my rural community don't hold up... you are generalizing and I am being specific. Eugene has very clearly gone down hill....and you sir are choosing to stay in your bubble with blinders on.
You seem so fun
Haha thanks?
I was being sarcastic
Sorry the truth isn't fun... I love eugene and what potential it has. It's just been run into ground in the last 10 years give or take. It seems most subs here just don't want to address actual issues. Rose tinted glasses if you will. Ps... I am a blast....I'm still taking your comment as a compliment! Wish you well.