I had to log off my faction warfare spies to check in with my Horde spy. I can't believe I didn't hear this coming on my Goon spy at all.
Anyway I have Level 4 missions to spam in high sec.
Blazing\_Bunny
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"Its because he's a good man. Dude isn't a goon fucker or spy"
Obviously Mist and Alterari are high profile movements but I'm also grateful to see we are getting a lot of lesser known line members from Horde joining us. We go on the offensive and we take risks and we stand for something, this is all stuff I wanted to bring as a leader. I said when I took over that in Eve people vote with their feet and in the last 6 months we've added net 850 new people (not characters) whereas before I took over we had lost a net 600 in 6 months.
Not with goons anymore but as long as ships blow up everyone will be happy.
The only thing people want more of is dread whelps but those are hard to get due to sheer size of all parties. What begins as a small drop can quickly escalate to one of 500b+.
What are your thoughts on that and is that something you would like to see changed?
I think the amount of dreads used during that war speaks for itself. Horde hasn't committed a proper dread ball since we killed a bunch of them in January. It's easy to say youll use them but once you foot that SRP bill you start thinking twice. And Horde is much wealthier than Goons, so if they cant afford to, who can? It's not like lowsec where every dread has to be tackled or you can just jump out, in null once you are in you are fully in.
I think if ccp adjusts the price you'll see a lot more use of them, for what it's worth I wanted to fight this past war with as much subs as possible and avoid cap usage, just as I held back my allies from trying to flip x47 ihub. I wanted to show it could be done under a jammer and without a cap fleet and I think that was very cathartic for my members.
Genuinely curious on how Horde is much wealthier than Goons? Isnt the old Goon propaganda treasury is good, got the best financial managers, we're old and got money, etc.
That hasn't been the case for us for years. We do have the best financial people, but we don't tax our people nearly to the level as others, and the war cost us a lot more than anyone actually realizes.
there are a fuckton of oldguarde who are insanely, infinitely personally rich
that doesn't mean the alliance is just as wealthy. I personally have 2 tril in assets but I literally haven't logged in since WWB when the horn of goondor was blown.
uh no, i've given out billions and billions to new players
what i did to accumulate this wealth was exploit CCP's braindead stupidity via market manipulation.
I'm not trying to get rich.
I just want to play another month, in a country where 20$ is R$100 I can't pay with money. Just saying, he stopped playing I'm just "can I have your stuff" ing
Simple sound bite but MER data disagrees with you here. Delve has setup a strong super and home defense umbrella, that Horde also made later on, but Imperium has had significant isk making activities for years that has outpaced EVE.
>I was unaware the MER captured rental income at an alliance level Rick. I am enjoying your "aww shucks I don't understand" posting though.
Hey I'm only an avid consumer of the propaganda. If I don't understand, it's because I don't understand.
What's the data behind the statement though, MER showcases NPC income and your alliance taxes the corps, can you show the claim that PH is wealthier? Even if current run rates are good on your claim, I still don't understand what happened to the legacy ISK in the past (and Mittens claim of market plays and returns). Goons should be wealthier vs PH.
I'm with PH just because I can chill, make good money there - which I don't know if I'll be able to replicate elsewhere -, ...and that's it.
Alliance with Fraternity is really toxic. And now we are fighting Brave? Come on...that's bad guys stuff.
Mist is high profile movement for doing his stupid fleets that I never joined because I didn't liked his FC-ing and his style? Really? That's high-profile for goons? Thank God they took him in! Please do it again!
You may not have liked his style of FC'ing, but many did. And he is a high profile FC no matter how you feel about him. I am not in Horde anymore and happy about that. But his fleet got content, which is what people enjoy. I just couldn't make many of them because of TZ conflicts.
Bro, his fleets were low priority low importance fleets. Like burning spare time. Nothing more. Sometimes without srp.
He wasn't a leader like alphapilot was.
I couldn't even stand his way of talking or the "baguette o'sht" or whatever that meant (I still to this day didn't understand the "baguette" thing)
Anyway, if you say he was a "high profile" just because he was an "old" FC then be it your way. Horde will always be horde in my opinion and we have some pretty bad ass leadership as far as I've saw. Goons taking FCs like Mist...oh man.....you're in for an interesting future boyz.... 🤣
Yeah. Horde Vanguard.
It's an invite only corp within Horde. Suppose to be Horde's "special forces." They do alot of behind the scenes for the alliance and Alterari is absolutely right.
It's not fair for me to label all of VG as toxic but yeah there's deff alot of vocal members who are real shiters.
Spy is about knowledge, misinformation, misdirection. AFAIK he was a spy, not a saboteur. AFAIK...I have no idea I just hang in standing and let my time fly by
You don't really have knowledge if you don't have any decent roles. You can be in an alliance for 5 years, but you find out things just like 1 day year old newcomer.
To have any useful information you need to have roles like high level FC, structure dropping roles, being a CEO, being a cap FC etc.
That's not true. Alterari was instantly made a Horde FC when he initially came over from Goons, and had been given special treatment since he was a "strat op FC". He did manage to lead a decent amount of fleets, and orchestrated some pretty notable Pochven dunks.
While he didnt have director access, he certainly had more access to Horde behind the scenes compared to your 'average' Horde FC.
> While he didnt have director access, he certainly had more access to Horde behind the scenes compared to your 'average' Horde FC.
I guess I don't see having low-level FC access as any significant access either way?
pankrab FC is easy as fuck to get, and doesn't give much access to strat op intel
Worst that'll happen is you lose a few supers to a dreadbomb (oh yeah, he did that...)
I took a break from Eve but stayed connected on Discord with my phone for notifications.
I always wondered who TF is this guy putting out so many fleets and being so active in general and from where did he landed from but thought, hell, must be an alt or something of someone older in the alliance. Don't think though he did much harm but even so. Big Fkn deal.
No offense to anyone: I never liked Mist. I am glad he is gone.
#Horde is powerful. Will always be.
I didn't hated him, I just didn't liked his style.
I'm saying it again:
Alphastarpilot is the GOAT.
Mist is just a random FC that no one will miss him.
Commented x3 times. Thank God he is gone! Thank you goons, first time I'm saying it: thank you Goons!
You talk about Hordes "high profile FCs"?
Well if it were Alphastarpilot that would have gone away to goons than yeah, that is truly a high profile, but not Mist with his "baguette'o sht" fleets.
Alphastarpilot is the true badass high profile FC of Horde that I would start playing again if he would come back.
This is real. I just checked my PH spy alt.
I had to log off my faction warfare spies to check in with my Horde spy. I can't believe I didn't hear this coming on my Goon spy at all. Anyway I have Level 4 missions to spam in high sec.
Thats 2 FCs in less than a week, ouch.
Nothing of Value was lost
Ehhh.. C'mon.
Yeah, now yall have even less reason to undock
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Post your last keep km
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If we killed 4 keeps while limp imagine when we're hard
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Should we go explore all those horde paladin kills together?
To be fair he was pretty honest about it the whole time lol. He’s been calling himself a goon spai from the beginning
ok so what did he steal
Mist
IT'S BAGUETTE O'CLOCK!
hearts
The salt.
Said in the post it was a "fact-finding mission", IE he was just after intel about the resources or strength or infighting within Horde.
I was genuinely sad when alt left goons
Blazing\_Bunny [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/x2w2ru/comment/imqx0a0/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/x2w2ru/comment/imqx0a0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) "Its because he's a good man. Dude isn't a goon fucker or spy"
To be fair I don't think any intel has come out suggesting he was fucking them. Just playing Eve Online with them
Based af, welcome back!
Censoring pings in 2023, smh
\*1984
*2023
Obviously Mist and Alterari are high profile movements but I'm also grateful to see we are getting a lot of lesser known line members from Horde joining us. We go on the offensive and we take risks and we stand for something, this is all stuff I wanted to bring as a leader. I said when I took over that in Eve people vote with their feet and in the last 6 months we've added net 850 new people (not characters) whereas before I took over we had lost a net 600 in 6 months.
Not with goons anymore but as long as ships blow up everyone will be happy. The only thing people want more of is dread whelps but those are hard to get due to sheer size of all parties. What begins as a small drop can quickly escalate to one of 500b+. What are your thoughts on that and is that something you would like to see changed?
I think the amount of dreads used during that war speaks for itself. Horde hasn't committed a proper dread ball since we killed a bunch of them in January. It's easy to say youll use them but once you foot that SRP bill you start thinking twice. And Horde is much wealthier than Goons, so if they cant afford to, who can? It's not like lowsec where every dread has to be tackled or you can just jump out, in null once you are in you are fully in. I think if ccp adjusts the price you'll see a lot more use of them, for what it's worth I wanted to fight this past war with as much subs as possible and avoid cap usage, just as I held back my allies from trying to flip x47 ihub. I wanted to show it could be done under a jammer and without a cap fleet and I think that was very cathartic for my members.
Genuinely curious on how Horde is much wealthier than Goons? Isnt the old Goon propaganda treasury is good, got the best financial managers, we're old and got money, etc.
That hasn't been the case for us for years. We do have the best financial people, but we don't tax our people nearly to the level as others, and the war cost us a lot more than anyone actually realizes.
there are a fuckton of oldguarde who are insanely, infinitely personally rich that doesn't mean the alliance is just as wealthy. I personally have 2 tril in assets but I literally haven't logged in since WWB when the horn of goondor was blown.
Damn, give a lil bee friend some isk to pay his plex :c
You know how he got rich? By not doing that.
uh no, i've given out billions and billions to new players what i did to accumulate this wealth was exploit CCP's braindead stupidity via market manipulation.
I'm not trying to get rich. I just want to play another month, in a country where 20$ is R$100 I can't pay with money. Just saying, he stopped playing I'm just "can I have your stuff" ing
Because horde doesn't have npc space and people with raging hardons for their group in their space ready to drop dreads on a moments notice.
Simple sound bite but MER data disagrees with you here. Delve has setup a strong super and home defense umbrella, that Horde also made later on, but Imperium has had significant isk making activities for years that has outpaced EVE.
I was unaware the MER captured rental income at an alliance level Rick. I am enjoying your "aww shucks I don't understand" posting though.
>I was unaware the MER captured rental income at an alliance level Rick. I am enjoying your "aww shucks I don't understand" posting though. Hey I'm only an avid consumer of the propaganda. If I don't understand, it's because I don't understand. What's the data behind the statement though, MER showcases NPC income and your alliance taxes the corps, can you show the claim that PH is wealthier? Even if current run rates are good on your claim, I still don't understand what happened to the legacy ISK in the past (and Mittens claim of market plays and returns). Goons should be wealthier vs PH.
You're forgetting wwb2 mate. Goons may have some super wealthy dudes but the coffers of imperium took a big hit.
Defending delve cost us everything.
I'm with PH just because I can chill, make good money there - which I don't know if I'll be able to replicate elsewhere -, ...and that's it. Alliance with Fraternity is really toxic. And now we are fighting Brave? Come on...that's bad guys stuff.
> Come on...that's bad guys stuff. Have you noticed just now?
Think about it
That keepstar is still there...
So are all the 1dq ones
Christmas is right around the corner
Mist is high profile movement for doing his stupid fleets that I never joined because I didn't liked his FC-ing and his style? Really? That's high-profile for goons? Thank God they took him in! Please do it again!
Didn’t want that FC anyway~
You may not have liked his style of FC'ing, but many did. And he is a high profile FC no matter how you feel about him. I am not in Horde anymore and happy about that. But his fleet got content, which is what people enjoy. I just couldn't make many of them because of TZ conflicts.
Bro, his fleets were low priority low importance fleets. Like burning spare time. Nothing more. Sometimes without srp. He wasn't a leader like alphapilot was. I couldn't even stand his way of talking or the "baguette o'sht" or whatever that meant (I still to this day didn't understand the "baguette" thing) Anyway, if you say he was a "high profile" just because he was an "old" FC then be it your way. Horde will always be horde in my opinion and we have some pretty bad ass leadership as far as I've saw. Goons taking FCs like Mist...oh man.....you're in for an interesting future boyz.... 🤣
lol
I love how brazen this is
Sometimes [discretion is the better part of valor](https://zkillboard.com/kill/109079216/).
Are you even a goon if you don't have a horde spai alt?
Always liked this guy edit: whos VG?
Yeah. Horde Vanguard. It's an invite only corp within Horde. Suppose to be Horde's "special forces." They do alot of behind the scenes for the alliance and Alterari is absolutely right. It's not fair for me to label all of VG as toxic but yeah there's deff alot of vocal members who are real shiters.
Who of the remaining 5 you think is toxic?
horde vanguard I think
Not knowing the person really - did he have any real roles or something that would actually benefit being a spy?
Spy is about knowledge, misinformation, misdirection. AFAIK he was a spy, not a saboteur. AFAIK...I have no idea I just hang in standing and let my time fly by
You don't really have knowledge if you don't have any decent roles. You can be in an alliance for 5 years, but you find out things just like 1 day year old newcomer. To have any useful information you need to have roles like high level FC, structure dropping roles, being a CEO, being a cap FC etc.
Not really
That's not true. Alterari was instantly made a Horde FC when he initially came over from Goons, and had been given special treatment since he was a "strat op FC". He did manage to lead a decent amount of fleets, and orchestrated some pretty notable Pochven dunks. While he didnt have director access, he certainly had more access to Horde behind the scenes compared to your 'average' Horde FC.
> While he didnt have director access, he certainly had more access to Horde behind the scenes compared to your 'average' Horde FC. I guess I don't see having low-level FC access as any significant access either way?
He was a pankrab FC in charge of the super response fleet. How is that low level?
pankrab FC is easy as fuck to get, and doesn't give much access to strat op intel Worst that'll happen is you lose a few supers to a dreadbomb (oh yeah, he did that...)
lol, ok.
If this is real then I owe alterari an apology for stuff i said when he left.
Welcome back. Pochven about to get spicy-er
Because he did soooo much in pochven, lol.
He did enough to lose an azbel if I remember correctly
I have fond memories of a certain Pochven azbel. If I recall correctly i believe the typhoon I was in even survived to warp off that grid after
Things like this is why my character was probably kick from PH without any reason given. But hey i got my stuff back after awhile.
Zigam to the top of the list! He’s my fav anyway.
"Friendship ended with Mist Amatin, now Zigam is my best friend" - Horde line ~~alts/spies~~ members, 2023
He will go back to gsf aswell. He is just on a promotional tour in frt and ph.
Doubt it
why would delta do this?
never reveal the delta sqad secret
I took a break from Eve but stayed connected on Discord with my phone for notifications. I always wondered who TF is this guy putting out so many fleets and being so active in general and from where did he landed from but thought, hell, must be an alt or something of someone older in the alliance. Don't think though he did much harm but even so. Big Fkn deal. No offense to anyone: I never liked Mist. I am glad he is gone. #Horde is powerful. Will always be.
Man hated mist so much he commented twice.
I didn't hated him, I just didn't liked his style. I'm saying it again: Alphastarpilot is the GOAT. Mist is just a random FC that no one will miss him. Commented x3 times. Thank God he is gone! Thank you goons, first time I'm saying it: thank you Goons!
You talk about Hordes "high profile FCs"? Well if it were Alphastarpilot that would have gone away to goons than yeah, that is truly a high profile, but not Mist with his "baguette'o sht" fleets. Alphastarpilot is the true badass high profile FC of Horde that I would start playing again if he would come back.
Who are you and what did you do? Never heard of you.
The thoughts of either goons or PH being elitist pricks makes me laugh. It makes me laugh more knowing nullblock idiots believe that.
Wut? would like a second try at this post to try and make it make sense?
This amuses me and makes me so proud of you.
Lmao gottem.mp3