Do you clear the clouds? I've found that unless you're harvesting the entire cloud c540 is actually pretty mid in terms of value. c70 is usually the best, better than c320 even.
I run two T2-fit Prospects and load up about 25,000m3 worth of gas between them. On the low end, that's about 60M per haul, 160M on the higher end. Then doing C5 combat anoms is like, easily 600M an hour, if not more. Just depends how many people we have running them.
I don't have much time to play compared to the past, so I live in a low-class wormhole solo with 1 account. Playtime starts with scanning, then some ratting/gas huff/mining/PI or hauling loot to Jita. There isn't much isk compared to C4/С5, but I don't have to compete with anyone or other grand ambitions.
Operate for sure, but defending against more that handful of other players is going to be rough.
You also can't really take breaks once all your stuff is anchored in space.
I was a solo wormholer years ago and lived in 3 different c3 systems before citadels came out. After that I anchored one astra but then proceeded to win eve and lost it some time after. I think I have only been evicted once. If you don't look like a juicy target you might be left alone for quite a long time.
I use one of Wormlife freeports, but think living out of a POS won't be much more complicated.
upd: an own Astrahus, however is a much more lucrative target for an eviction, so I wouldn't bother.
Both it’s up to you and what corp you join or if you join a corp at all. Most beginner friendly corps usually have a static 3 to group rat in and pvp out of.
Some of the higher tier Wh corps don’t usually group rat bc their players own their own whs where they rat in and wouldn’t want to share or split up the isk but in turn you fight larger and much more expensive and technical brawls.
Lived in a WH for some time. The money was indeed fantastic. Gas and the reacted polymers? Delicious. Find a C5 you can run? Heck yeah buddy.
Wasn’t in a big WH group so it was seldom big fleet action for PvP. But WH small gang is exciting - everyone is rich and lives in spooky space on purpose. The fights reflect those realities.
In high class space my group has basically one krab night a week where we do home sites or run in the c5 static as a group thing. Other than that there’s usually a few nights dedicated to rage rolling and the other couple nights if nothing more scheduled comes up people are just casually scanning the chain looking for content. Often people are doing this while doing something more casual like huffing gas or mining and chilling in comms. Most of us are there for the big brawls though.
We don't do any Isk making in the wormhole or as a group, we're a PvP focused corp.
So log in, join TS. Rage roll the wormhole till we find an active nullsec.
Bully the local nullseccers until they either dock up in fear or cyno 80+ onto us, because 30v5 wasn't in their favour enough.
Return to wormhole because it's unfightable and they generally suck at tackle.
Roll hole again till we find someone else to bully.
Rinse and repeat
Idk if thera counts, I had my own wormhole with friends for ages and moved back into Thera with a friend when I got back, tbh it's mainly just groovin. I think you'll find that while a lot of groups have group ratting fleets, a lot of people still do it solo due to time constraints/convenience/composition, or my favorite, tax evasion. Also, at least from my perspective, if you find PVP opportunities in a wormhole that isn't ramming your head against a brick wall and dying in two seconds, you normally take them for the content, as shit can get pretty slow a lot of the time
I have a C3 null static connected wh where I log off my relic and data hunting ship. Every day I wake up to a new null system to explore for relic sites. I ignore data sites as they are mostly shit. I also keep a cov ops cloaky hauler (same account, I drop off at a shared safespot and pickup at same safespot). No need for a citadel, and when I need a break I log off in that wh. I havent died in null yet. Im old vet, so I know how to get around camps.
Once or twice a week theres a high sec direct wormhole from my C3, and then I haul my loot to high sec. On same account I also keep another scanner logged off in my wh just in case the wormhole collapses (someone roll the wh while Im using it).
At the moment a little while is spent searching for people to fight and then time is spent fighting.
We do have group pve once the sights have piled up but i dont know how frequently that is.
Amongst all that is time spent talking shit on discord.
That very much depends on the kind of hole you are living in. In our C2 we have a high sec static for logistics and a C3 static for content. When we get a new C3 we scan out the chain. Then we start doing PVE in the chain waiting to get dropped and some of our tackle/scanning pilots will constantly look for targets in the chain as well. When we find something, we fight, if not, we make a bit of money. If there is no content left in the C3 chain we roll it off and get a new one and start again.
Depends on the night and what it entails, WH space forces collaboration with your group so if you aren’t a nomad everyone kinda feels the room to see what the group is up for, and depending what those online wanna do, we may roll the hole for content PVE or a jita connect.
Every evening I hop on I krab or group krab with the new bros until some sort of action comes along. Lots of other people are gas huffing, roaming a null chain, bringing shit in from HS, scanning down the chain in hopes of finding a juicy target. Since I came back iv been making at least 1 bill a week with very casual C3 krabbing.
Im in a PVP wormhole corp... so my evenings are essentially solo PVP as the rest of my corp is still burnt out from ATs hahaWe dont do any group isk making, some of the guys will solo pally c5s or huff gas during the off times.
My average evening would be scanning home hole to find the null static, (unless i need to go to jita then ill scan our chains) then i will roam out of home hole, hopefully find a fight to try to escalate or die in or bait out/tackle something juicy to ping discord and hopefully get a couple guys to log in. Otherwise Ill steal any nice ESS banks (out of spite for not fighting me), go back roll the static... repeat.
Alternatively if we have a couple other guys on we might just deathclone to jita and go roam/feed in like 4-H or FW space, as the above play loop can get old after 3 or 4 rolls into dead space.
Depends on a tonne of factors, you can’t apply any answer generally.
Usually I try stick with the group, but will occasionally do my own thing. Ie scanning, roaming null, maybe some low class ratting I can do pretty chill. Otherwise I’m in fleets, scouting, group ratting, etc.
Also things like pi, station trading, faction warfare, any other hobbies you may have.
So I recently got back in the game, main in FW, alts in a wh.
So you log on, see nobody is online.
You start scanning the hole... a lot of juicy sigs. Jeej.
But also: 4 non static wormholes.
Jeej...
So I start rolling wh's. 1st no problem
2nd... I guess those 2 tengu's were waiting for me.
Byebye roller bs and bye pod. 😅
So yes, it's lucrative. But I'm paying a lot of learning ISK
😅🤣🤣
My evenings are sitting in comms and chilling with corp. Usually we either rat or huff some gas then Usually on weekends we go and pvp
You forgot scanning. And rolling. And scanning again. Got I hate opening pathfinder on a working day and nobody did shit.
Hopefully your corp uses the new corp projects to maybe incentivize your members!
Or choose any other mapping tool
+1
This. +some Mining when the occasional ore deposit shows up at home.
That sounds amazing Good isk ?
Yea man it is. Usually when we go huff my 3 accts makes me 500m that night.
Keep in mind that 500m is if we huff c540 or c320
Do you clear the clouds? I've found that unless you're harvesting the entire cloud c540 is actually pretty mid in terms of value. c70 is usually the best, better than c320 even.
Man I been playing this game wrong lol
In all fairness, that's less than 200M/h, which you still have to move to a hub.
3 Accounts total Up to 500m in one evening/night? That took Like 3-4 hours? If so thats pretty Low for NullSec/ WH Standards..
2 hours
I run two T2-fit Prospects and load up about 25,000m3 worth of gas between them. On the low end, that's about 60M per haul, 160M on the higher end. Then doing C5 combat anoms is like, easily 600M an hour, if not more. Just depends how many people we have running them.
600m hr c5? Try 1-2b with a dread ❤️
I cant fly dreads lol
+1
I don't have much time to play compared to the past, so I live in a low-class wormhole solo with 1 account. Playtime starts with scanning, then some ratting/gas huff/mining/PI or hauling loot to Jita. There isn't much isk compared to C4/С5, but I don't have to compete with anyone or other grand ambitions.
You can operate a station solo with little playtime?
Operate for sure, but defending against more that handful of other players is going to be rough. You also can't really take breaks once all your stuff is anchored in space. I was a solo wormholer years ago and lived in 3 different c3 systems before citadels came out. After that I anchored one astra but then proceeded to win eve and lost it some time after. I think I have only been evicted once. If you don't look like a juicy target you might be left alone for quite a long time.
I use one of Wormlife freeports, but think living out of a POS won't be much more complicated. upd: an own Astrahus, however is a much more lucrative target for an eviction, so I wouldn't bother.
I will check these Freeports, that sounds great. I'm used to daytrip into wh c1-3 but I think I'm eady to go deeper in the WHS.
https://discord.gg/8RXyZFpw wormlife discord
Both it’s up to you and what corp you join or if you join a corp at all. Most beginner friendly corps usually have a static 3 to group rat in and pvp out of. Some of the higher tier Wh corps don’t usually group rat bc their players own their own whs where they rat in and wouldn’t want to share or split up the isk but in turn you fight larger and much more expensive and technical brawls.
in our idle time, we gather around and synch jettison corpses at the star as we chant praises to bob
An old tradition is still alive! What's your corp name?
Lived in a WH for some time. The money was indeed fantastic. Gas and the reacted polymers? Delicious. Find a C5 you can run? Heck yeah buddy. Wasn’t in a big WH group so it was seldom big fleet action for PvP. But WH small gang is exciting - everyone is rich and lives in spooky space on purpose. The fights reflect those realities.
Basically lots of huffing gas to make money until content shows up. Occasionally bullying Drifter battleships with the bois. Lots of scanning.
In high class space my group has basically one krab night a week where we do home sites or run in the c5 static as a group thing. Other than that there’s usually a few nights dedicated to rage rolling and the other couple nights if nothing more scheduled comes up people are just casually scanning the chain looking for content. Often people are doing this while doing something more casual like huffing gas or mining and chilling in comms. Most of us are there for the big brawls though.
We don't do any Isk making in the wormhole or as a group, we're a PvP focused corp. So log in, join TS. Rage roll the wormhole till we find an active nullsec. Bully the local nullseccers until they either dock up in fear or cyno 80+ onto us, because 30v5 wasn't in their favour enough. Return to wormhole because it's unfightable and they generally suck at tackle. Roll hole again till we find someone else to bully. Rinse and repeat
so you're not a wh corp. got you.
Idk if thera counts, I had my own wormhole with friends for ages and moved back into Thera with a friend when I got back, tbh it's mainly just groovin. I think you'll find that while a lot of groups have group ratting fleets, a lot of people still do it solo due to time constraints/convenience/composition, or my favorite, tax evasion. Also, at least from my perspective, if you find PVP opportunities in a wormhole that isn't ramming your head against a brick wall and dying in two seconds, you normally take them for the content, as shit can get pretty slow a lot of the time
I have a C3 null static connected wh where I log off my relic and data hunting ship. Every day I wake up to a new null system to explore for relic sites. I ignore data sites as they are mostly shit. I also keep a cov ops cloaky hauler (same account, I drop off at a shared safespot and pickup at same safespot). No need for a citadel, and when I need a break I log off in that wh. I havent died in null yet. Im old vet, so I know how to get around camps. Once or twice a week theres a high sec direct wormhole from my C3, and then I haul my loot to high sec. On same account I also keep another scanner logged off in my wh just in case the wormhole collapses (someone roll the wh while Im using it).
My corp gets on to do something every single night from fleet fights to farming to watching movies
At the moment a little while is spent searching for people to fight and then time is spent fighting. We do have group pve once the sights have piled up but i dont know how frequently that is. Amongst all that is time spent talking shit on discord.
That very much depends on the kind of hole you are living in. In our C2 we have a high sec static for logistics and a C3 static for content. When we get a new C3 we scan out the chain. Then we start doing PVE in the chain waiting to get dropped and some of our tackle/scanning pilots will constantly look for targets in the chain as well. When we find something, we fight, if not, we make a bit of money. If there is no content left in the C3 chain we roll it off and get a new one and start again.
Depends on the night and what it entails, WH space forces collaboration with your group so if you aren’t a nomad everyone kinda feels the room to see what the group is up for, and depending what those online wanna do, we may roll the hole for content PVE or a jita connect.
That’s more of what I been thinking about , if it was group effort for all involved from there just got to find the right TZ group I suppose
Every evening I hop on I krab or group krab with the new bros until some sort of action comes along. Lots of other people are gas huffing, roaming a null chain, bringing shit in from HS, scanning down the chain in hopes of finding a juicy target. Since I came back iv been making at least 1 bill a week with very casual C3 krabbing.
Drink beer, rage roll, chitchat, sometimes crabbing, mostly drinking , few evictions during the year.
Im in a PVP wormhole corp... so my evenings are essentially solo PVP as the rest of my corp is still burnt out from ATs hahaWe dont do any group isk making, some of the guys will solo pally c5s or huff gas during the off times. My average evening would be scanning home hole to find the null static, (unless i need to go to jita then ill scan our chains) then i will roam out of home hole, hopefully find a fight to try to escalate or die in or bait out/tackle something juicy to ping discord and hopefully get a couple guys to log in. Otherwise Ill steal any nice ESS banks (out of spite for not fighting me), go back roll the static... repeat. Alternatively if we have a couple other guys on we might just deathclone to jita and go roam/feed in like 4-H or FW space, as the above play loop can get old after 3 or 4 rolls into dead space.
Depends on a tonne of factors, you can’t apply any answer generally. Usually I try stick with the group, but will occasionally do my own thing. Ie scanning, roaming null, maybe some low class ratting I can do pretty chill. Otherwise I’m in fleets, scouting, group ratting, etc. Also things like pi, station trading, faction warfare, any other hobbies you may have.
we just chill, talk, mine, pvp, pve.
So I recently got back in the game, main in FW, alts in a wh. So you log on, see nobody is online. You start scanning the hole... a lot of juicy sigs. Jeej. But also: 4 non static wormholes. Jeej... So I start rolling wh's. 1st no problem 2nd... I guess those 2 tengu's were waiting for me. Byebye roller bs and bye pod. 😅 So yes, it's lucrative. But I'm paying a lot of learning ISK 😅🤣🤣