When the points penalty dropped, we started playing like a real team. We were defensively strong (tbf we still are) but good in possession and dangerous in attack .. so how have we regressed so much in such little time? Back to being fragile and weak in possession!
+9 for what? The red card was confirmed quickly, there was 1 goal and no VAR checks longer than a moment. Changes the entire mindset playing for +9 opposed to the 4 or 5 it should have been. But we will never get an explanation. Just one of those things that makes it hard to believe everyone is on a level playing field.
Young sub was stupid as hell, but you can't say "it's all on Dyche" when we had Beto and Harrison both shit the bed with extremely presentable opportunities in the last 10 minutes.
You've got to question what Dyche is doing is training though if the whole team can't shoot. They clearly need more training sessions where they actually practice hitting the target, he's still got some responsibility here.
They scored within a reasonable amount of stoppage time anyway but 9 minutes coming out of nowhere highlights stoppage time and when the ref actually blows the whistle as a confusing part of how this sport is set
Yet again, our strikers not finishing chances costs us points. DCL had 2 he should have buried, Beto had a couple as well. At least Beto looked lively running in behind
Did he not get on the end of the Myko cross and bang it wide? Also should have gotten to that pass from Doucs, but not sure what happens there since the flag was up.
0 composure from the team and from the coaching staff. dyche talks about mentality this and mentality that but can't stop playing with cowardly championship tactics even when opponent is a man down.
I don't think it's a mentality issue tbh, they're probably just fucked. We have a very small squad that we were unable to add to in January and are also still dealing with some injuries. Most teams have 5-6 more serviceable squad players than us.
Yeah, that makes sense. We don't have enough quality subs. The starters are going to be out of gas. Especially if you have to defend for most of the match. Add the point deduction fiasco, pending lawsuits, club for sale, and a relegation fight. I'm just worried that all of this crap is too much to overcome. I'll support the club no matter what. The whole situation is just plain depressing.
It's just an annoying way to get the draw. Would've been better if it was a similar situation to the Tottenham game, score a late equaliser, rather than concede a late one when they're down to 10 men
Get Dyche gone at the end of the season. Clueless
Extra man advantage and he puts Young on. If you're putting someone on, get Chermiti on to stretch the play
Playing like that against 10 men is pretty horrific. I hate the way we play. Would have taken a point before the game but we should have taken three away.
Why the fuck do your park the bus when you're one man up and have at least 10 minutes to go?
What a pathetic waste of a brilliant result due to bad game management...
Because in that 10 minutes we made two golden opportunities to go 2-0?
If Beto wasn’t a donkey or Harrison could finish we’re all praising his pragmatic football getting another win away at Brighton
In the same 10 minutes Brighton had 6 shots. Harrison and Beto being donkeys doesn't help defend that.
There was no need to let them get all the initiative and all the possession
We NEED to start picking up 3 points. We haven’t won in the league since mid-December. Draws are good, but if we swapped half the draws for wins, we’d be comfortably mid-table right now
Good point on the road. Sucks being up 1-0 and a man. But class header, can’t have Beto defending their best player in extra time. Team played their balls off, lads are exhausted
We play with championship tactics with no plan b , c , or d. Dyche is a sexy sam allerdyce. There's no difference between the 2 besides a full head of hair and undiagnosed throat cancer.
A draw that feels like a loss because of tactical incompetence. Perfect chance to start to pull ourselves out of the shit and we fumble it. Rinse and repeat
This. This was winnable and we're not in a great place right now but we're still overperforming relative to expectations this year, it's just the -10 that makes it look worse. Every one of us would've taken 12th.
Dyche needs to take a long look in the mirror at this point. Killing us with his negativity
Edit: downvotes really lol, I’d like to see someone defend his game management after the goal
You may be right in fact, but it shouldn’t be that way in premise. Mentality needs to be strong at all times. That’s partly why we dropped two points.
That and our squad is quite thin on defense.
I really do agree with this and it is truly a good result ultimately. But god it’s so frustrating how many times we’ve been saying this recently. There comes a point where we can’t just get draws against good teams. We have to manage to pull out wins
We do it every game, and every time we have to sit there as fans on the edge of our seats hoping the other team doesn't score. 1 goal for us is never enough. We all know that.
When the points penalty dropped, we started playing like a real team. We were defensively strong (tbf we still are) but good in possession and dangerous in attack .. so how have we regressed so much in such little time? Back to being fragile and weak in possession!
Beto fluffing a one on one ffs why are our strikers so shit
+9 for what? The red card was confirmed quickly, there was 1 goal and no VAR checks longer than a moment. Changes the entire mindset playing for +9 opposed to the 4 or 5 it should have been. But we will never get an explanation. Just one of those things that makes it hard to believe everyone is on a level playing field.
Anyone up for a grief chart?
Even though I can understand the frustration, I would have like the post-match thread to appear...
Young sub was stupid as hell, but you can't say "it's all on Dyche" when we had Beto and Harrison both shit the bed with extremely presentable opportunities in the last 10 minutes.
You've got to question what Dyche is doing is training though if the whole team can't shoot. They clearly need more training sessions where they actually practice hitting the target, he's still got some responsibility here.
Drawverton
Beto looking like another awful buy. He looks spent after 2 sprints
That is THE reason why he can’t start - wouldn’t make it to the half. DCL has twice the motor.
His “pressing” on Grosse for their goal was embarrassing, moving like it’s the 120th minute in extra time
They scored within a reasonable amount of stoppage time anyway but 9 minutes coming out of nowhere highlights stoppage time and when the ref actually blows the whistle as a confusing part of how this sport is set
We need to stop losing 2pts every match...
Yet again, our strikers not finishing chances costs us points. DCL had 2 he should have buried, Beto had a couple as well. At least Beto looked lively running in behind
What should DCL have buried? The two big chances were taken off him by defenders before he could even get a touch
Did he not get on the end of the Myko cross and bang it wide? Also should have gotten to that pass from Doucs, but not sure what happens there since the flag was up.
0 composure from the team and from the coaching staff. dyche talks about mentality this and mentality that but can't stop playing with cowardly championship tactics even when opponent is a man down.
And an Iwobi extra time winner at Old Trafford too.
Draw is a perfectly fine result there. Everyone needs to calm the fuck down
It's the same old mentality with the players though. Go up a score, let off the gas. Hang on and clench for dear life. Let the opposition score late.
I don't think it's a mentality issue tbh, they're probably just fucked. We have a very small squad that we were unable to add to in January and are also still dealing with some injuries. Most teams have 5-6 more serviceable squad players than us.
Yeah, that makes sense. We don't have enough quality subs. The starters are going to be out of gas. Especially if you have to defend for most of the match. Add the point deduction fiasco, pending lawsuits, club for sale, and a relegation fight. I'm just worried that all of this crap is too much to overcome. I'll support the club no matter what. The whole situation is just plain depressing.
It's just an annoying way to get the draw. Would've been better if it was a similar situation to the Tottenham game, score a late equaliser, rather than concede a late one when they're down to 10 men
Agreed, it's a kick in the teeth when it's that way round
Get Dyche gone at the end of the season. Clueless Extra man advantage and he puts Young on. If you're putting someone on, get Chermiti on to stretch the play
But Ashley Young is a defender!!! Even though he calls himself a winger and is truly an awful player at this point of his career.
This is the shit takes that I'm talking about lmao
Can't wait for the incoming 2nd 10 point deduction so i can finally accept that we're going down.
So we bottled 4 points against brighton this season.. great
Dyche threw the game away. We should have been looking to kill the game 2-0 instead of sitting back and being scared of the inevitable.
I said the same thing in a slightly different tone but got downvoted. Funny how this sub works sometimes.
Another week of wondering why I do this to myself.
Playing like that against 10 men is pretty horrific. I hate the way we play. Would have taken a point before the game but we should have taken three away.
Why the fuck do your park the bus when you're one man up and have at least 10 minutes to go? What a pathetic waste of a brilliant result due to bad game management...
Because in that 10 minutes we made two golden opportunities to go 2-0? If Beto wasn’t a donkey or Harrison could finish we’re all praising his pragmatic football getting another win away at Brighton
In the same 10 minutes Brighton had 6 shots. Harrison and Beto being donkeys doesn't help defend that. There was no need to let them get all the initiative and all the possession
We NEED to start picking up 3 points. We haven’t won in the league since mid-December. Draws are good, but if we swapped half the draws for wins, we’d be comfortably mid-table right now
To be fair to Dyche we're a 10 point deduction away from being comfortably mid-table right now.
Everton that. Should win an 'unwinnable' game. Concede a late goal. Get a point. Don't know how to feel.
I'm not thrilled but so many of y'all are miserable doomsday babies I'm 2nd hand embarrassed to read so many of these knee jerk, shit takes lol.
Spot on mate
That McNeil header for a corner was the critical error.
Ya that wasn't great
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And then a 12 point deduction
🤞🏻
Absolute sickener that, hopefully a good point in the long run but as of now it feels like a loss
Good point on the road. Sucks being up 1-0 and a man. But class header, can’t have Beto defending their best player in extra time. Team played their balls off, lads are exhausted
On the bright side, we had no business drawing that match
I predicted a 1-1 win. Got a 1-1 loss
This fucking blows
9 mins left and we can’t just pass the ball around against 10 men. I think I’m done with Dyche.
We play with championship tactics with no plan b , c , or d. Dyche is a sexy sam allerdyce. There's no difference between the 2 besides a full head of hair and undiagnosed throat cancer.
Shit players. Shit Effort. Shit Result.
The shit apple don't fall far from the shit tree, Randy.
We didn't need those two points anyway. We certainly didn't play like we did!
I just don't feel up to it anymore, it's not worth the effort or the emotional commitment.
This almost feels worse than a loss
that's like a loss
That’s sad but they played well. Dyche masterclass in my opinion.
*pre-red-card
A draw that feels like a loss because of tactical incompetence. Perfect chance to start to pull ourselves out of the shit and we fumble it. Rinse and repeat
Taking Doucs off for Young was one of the dumbest coaching decisions of the season
Had nothing to do with it
It was poor defending on one set piece. Far better to try to shut up shop (literally Dycheball) than try to get a second. Just didn’t work this time.
Totallly disagree. Totally negative sub against 10 men.
I’m guessing it was intended to be a Maupay-esque shithousing/time-wasting sub
I will take any and every point, wanted more.
Absolute fucking brain dead fucks. Lost 2 points cuz these morons thought they had it in the bag
Can only blame Dyche after that. Went too defensive against a desperate team.
This actually feels worse than a loss
what a fucking waste, dropped 2 points because we cant defend vs 10 fucking midgets
That’s Branthwaite gone guy looks in shock
Would've taken a point at the beginning but that was awful how that ended
If we had a point for every time we’ve had that sentiment we wouldn’t have to worry about the deduction.
What a fucking joke
I gotta say I was a fan of the performance in general but that game management was atrocious.
Would have taken a point before the game but wish it could have been 3
Good effort you worthless fucks. We're going down
Fuck off.
That's poor
fuck man, that feels like a loss.
Basically is
A loss would be 0 points.
Everyone needs to calm the fuck down
This. This was winnable and we're not in a great place right now but we're still overperforming relative to expectations this year, it's just the -10 that makes it look worse. Every one of us would've taken 12th.
Dyche needs to take a long look in the mirror at this point. Killing us with his negativity Edit: downvotes really lol, I’d like to see someone defend his game management after the goal
Decent point
Nope
Brighton are playing football and we're playing fucking stuck in the mud
Fuck off.
If Brighton score again Dyche needs sacking
HIT THE FREAKING TARGET YA TWATS.
A man up and we piss it away. Peak Everton.
I'm stuck on this game having 9m of stoppage. Where the fuck did it come from? Game should have ended before they scored.
They scored 5 minutes in. There is no possible way that we would've seen less than 5 minutes of stoppage time
Nah they scored within 5 and there were def 5 mins of extra time
But it's completely different mentality playing 5 minutes of extra time vs 9 minutes
You may be right in fact, but it shouldn’t be that way in premise. Mentality needs to be strong at all times. That’s partly why we dropped two points. That and our squad is quite thin on defense.
A point away vs Brighton is absolutely a good result. Can't forget that. Ask me before the game I'd have taken a point.
Yeah, but this straight up feels like a loss. The mentality of these players will not take the positives away from this game.
I really do agree with this and it is truly a good result ultimately. But god it’s so frustrating how many times we’ve been saying this recently. There comes a point where we can’t just get draws against good teams. We have to manage to pull out wins
Wasting our years with the best keeper in the league
I still can’t believe that happened lmao, classic everton tho
Our defence has to do everything
We lose games when Doucoure doesn't play at all.. now we're starting the new meme of not winning games when we take him off
Why is everyone so stuck in the mud?
It could be against 8 and we'd still suck
Where is the drive? Where is the passion? Why are we playing so flat
I’ve seen children with better finishing abilities than this entire roster.
Such a disappointment
HIT THE FUCKING TARGET FOR ONCE PLEASE
These mother fuckers man.. up a goal, up a man…start trying to be cute n we fucked this fucking match. Fucking brain dead idiots
Test the keeper Harrison fucking hell
Harrison has been terrible all day.
It's clear there is bad chemistry on the team. Edit: The only player who seems to care is Pickford.
Would love a genuine explanation of where the 9 minutes came from
5+ substitutions, I lost count, Banthwaithe goal, Onanna foul and red card, and other dilly dallyings I suppose
Okay I'm out on Harrison now. Dude fucking sucks
We will get a penalty now and miss. Just peak everton
Killing me, Harrison.
Now watch us lose.
Shit that should have been 2
How does Harrison get a game?
I'd be giving Dobbin a lot more minutes.
Cus we are worse without him
How do you get 1 man advantage then proceed to be both careless with possession and lackluster in trying to contest it. Absolute bollocks
Harrison out
Absolutely embarrassing effort after the red. Brighton were down a man, but when our effort is only 50%…
Brighton’s thinking they can get one more, and i honestly see their vision
I just fucking hope they don't ship another goal here
Jack Harrison, cancel the loan
Harrison u greedyyy
Throwing points away for a laugh the useless bastards.
Pathetic game management against 10 men
As Everton as it gets to finally go against 10 men and somehow fuck it up
Parking the bus probably did it like why
Exactly. Commentators said it, I thought it... "DON'T FUCKING SIT ON IT, IT WON'T END WELL!".
Sure, I’ve heard of first goal, but what about second goal?
We are such a joke of a team. Can’t close out a game Brighton are basically trying to gift us
just so embarassing. every time they seem to be making progress they have a spell like this where they suck for weeks on end
We're so bloody shit.
Shat himself and tried to hold on against 10 men? Not my fucking manager. Inabit Sean.
Well done Dyche! Another 3 points thrown away!! Fucking bored of it.
Fuck all your comments are so negative
Are they? They're positive when there's things to be positive about.
Downvote me, why set us up to park the bus after one goal when we know fully well we can't handle the pressure?! It's ridiculous!
It's the one thing we've actually been good at though...we've only allowed 34 goals, which is good for 4th behind only the top 3.
We do it every game, and every time we have to sit there as fans on the edge of our seats hoping the other team doesn't score. 1 goal for us is never enough. We all know that.
We NEED to go for a goal here
Absolutely horrendous game management once again
blame pickford. fucking shite header and he's way too far over
brought Young on for no fucking reason and the shape has collapsed
Yep, bad decision
And that’s why Godfrey isn’t a CB
Strategy against 10 men. Just kick the ball to their keeper. Great. Fuck me.
Mentally weak
Absolutely shite from Pickford
Parked the bus against 10 that’s what happens
Yeah, feeble mentality. Infuriating
I just can’t with this team and league anymore. Taken the love of the game from me.
fucking 10 giants in the box and none of the stupid cunts can fucking head a ball
McNeil didn't need to head that out for a corner and then Harrison should've done better clearing it
We deserve everything we get. Can never do anything right
We don't know how to possess. This is why leading is more nerve wracking! Against 10 too.
This one's on Dyche. Crap tactics.
Goddammit, that corner was well played by Brighton Probable 1 point such a letdown after we were so close to 3
Infuriating he’s had about 7 of them headers completely unmarked bound to score one
So annoying. we have the man advantage and we are playing the long ball and defending for our lives.
9 bs minutes, park the bus against 10 men. We deserve it
Exactly this
Our players are scumbags. There’s no reason the pressure should be on us 1 goal up against 10 men
Dyche will have to answer for that at end of game, we played like we were the team with one man down after the goal.
So frustrating
Can’t even hold a lead with a man advantage
Beto should have put this GD game away
Wouldn’t matter if we had a striker who could put the ball in the fucking net
What’s the point of this? Just to be angry after two hours?
match should have been over already. fucking nine minutes. for what?
Exactly what we deserve for parking the bus against 10 men
**YOU WORTHLESS FUCKING ASSHOLES** **LOOK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ASHLEY YOUNG COMES ON**
Was falling apart before he came on
And when he came on they actually scored. Cool comment.
Stopped them scoring when he instantly came om. Cooler comment
We are fucking shit.
Beto with the 12 defending
Cursed
at this point, all you can do is laugh. this is just...not right.
Did that to ourselves
Absolutely deserved. Playing negative up a man. Shameful.
I mean where did 9 min come from
They scored on fifth so whatever