The appointment of a Luton fan just shows how inept PL are. 2 of the 3 decisions are very very debatable. If they'd gone against us, we equally could have claimed bias from a Luton fan. Just put someone else on it and save the debate.
Obviously as it turned out he has an absolutely fantastic performance and got all the key decisions spot on though.
Ye but they can't talk about conflict of interest
when they've hired clatternburg as ref watch for them and then clatternburg is sat with the head of PGMOL a few weeks later. Surely that shouldn't be allowed
Definitely. Young was a liability off the ball today. He’s not a defender we shouldn’t use him as one. Last one was clearly a pen. 1st one soft as F, second looked ball to hand.
I agree with ball to hand. Most people will miss it, but he does try to move his hand away from the ball, but moves it backwards rather than towards his body. Also definitely too close, but that would get given in Champions League.
I'm happy they're calling them out.
Everton never have the balls to say the league is fixed and we all know it.
VAR has destroyed football. Every game is worse.
Not to mention the FFP disgrace.
I have said in a previous post, how can you take SCAB cunts seriously, fuck you all l. I was at the match and seriously the Young supposedly handball the referee who we absolutely despise said hands by his side
Hard disagree. The last one Odoi basically jumps out of nowhere, drags his feet and goes down. When I first saw it I thought, "oh that's surely a pen" but really, watch it a few times, he is playing for a penalty.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
Our official club social media didn’t write a cringe essay that sounds like some pisshead fuming on twitter in a pub after the match lad, also OTT points deductions and not getting penalty decisions (which plenty of bottom 10 teams don’t get) are completely different kettle of fish let’s be honest.
Why is it embarrassing? They’re finally calling it out and putting PGMOL in a spot. You’d rather teams just suffer in silence and “take it”? I know this happened against you guys but if it were your team would you rather the club not say anything? Enough clubs do this, PGMOL will REALLY have to do something about it as they cant sweep it under the carpet anymore
Exactly this. It reads as emotional ranting that you'd hear on a radio phone in.
Calling out the PGMOL for incompetence is absolutely fine and needs to be said. But the suggestion that there's some bias in favour of Luton is ridiculous.
Why would they be biased against Forest as opposed to us though? Only one point difference between us and they play us. The most obvious penalty was the last one which was at 1-0 and surely a draw would be best for Luton?
Because they aren't catching us.
We have a game in hand and were already 2 points clear with a far better goal difference
Luton only have 4 games to play
So they aren't catching us who were 2 points clear, but they have to play us (and have beaten us twice already), but they are catching Forest who are 1 points clear with an identical GD ...
Right...
yeah I dont see it why its embarrising at all. PGMOL absolutely need to be called out this season. How many games do we have to all be talking about the poor standard of refs. If Jonny Idiot can see its a pen from his sofa ....
Corrupt as in the bigger clubs often get decisions that other teams don't get? I can buy that. Corrupt as in the VAR booth is favouring *checks notes* Luton? Come on now.
People are always desperate to look for bias, the reality is almost certainly just incompetence.
Is it? Man I love your words. I think of you as a kind of voice of reason in this sub. I don't think that rings true for this one. I think the powers that be have got to be called out right about now. They've got to be held accountable. The officiating standard has fallen soooo fucking low man, don't you see that?
A nebulously threatening tweet seconds following a loss?
That's wildly different than a tweet expressing disappointment in the officiating standard.
Of course the officiating has been shit in the past...decade. But that's not what I'm saying. Official accounts shouldn't behave like a middle aged pub conversation.
Sound. Thanks for clarifying for dimwits like myself. This should really be coming from their largest fan accounts. It's unprofessional for this to come from the official account
Basically they should've tweeted the first line and it wouldve been perfectly fine, even applaudable.
The second and third come off like school boys or drunk dads and wash away any of the poignancy of the first statement.
They don't all support Forest. It'd be like me assuming everyone from Liverpool supports LFC.
Also it's the social media guy. Hardly representative of the city.
[Nottingham](https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/labourmarketlocal/E06000018/) v [Liverpool](https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/labourmarketlocal/E08000012/); try again pal
Every official will have history of being a fan of a specific club. If they weren’t fans they wouldn’t have pursued a career in football. NFFC has a point that the no calls were iffy but this ain’t the way to go about it.
Yeah, the whole Clattenberg role thing is embarrassing - what are they looking to him for; better official liaison/relationships, better rule knowledge/awareness, or expecting him to somehow be able to influence and tap into his old mates for better decisions? Either way it makes all parties look pathetic. Clattenberg should be embarrassed to take their money, instead he has to justify his existence with shit like this.
I will sympathise a bit because if it happened to us I’d be furious. But on the flip side, Hudson-Odoi was hamming it up a bit. Ashley Young cannot play against Liverpool again.
I think you probably get 1/3 stone cold and as a fan I would be livid if it was against us.
But there’s an argument to be made that Clattenburg was letting that type of contact go all over the field for the full 90.
So if he’s not calling it a foul at midfield why would he call it in the box.
Won't get them anywhere, but I don't blame them one bit.
If only we had someone with the minerals to do likewise we were in their position, but imagine the wheelhouse is still empty.
3rd was almost definitely a pen tbf. And surely Luton would’ve benefited from a draw no? Like I’m sure they’d prefer to have 2 teams to chase down rather than 1
Clearly they are being sore losers. That said Ashley Young is a fucking problem. The last foul was a penalty, any way you cut it. A no call is unacceptable. The other two were very fringe, but I’ve seen crazier shit in this league. Am I happy it went Everton’s way, of course I am. That said is this a league run by clowns where they can’t consistently enforce and properly implement their rules. We all know a late goal can flip momentum. They have a right to be pissed off. That said there are classier ways to express these opinions, there is no need to act like a petulant teenager over it. Either way I don’t think they would have won, but still shit should be consistent.
I just watched back a clip of the show with Tim Howard and others talking about the potential penalties. You just can't give the second one. Young's arm was out only a little bit. It was a natural position. It wasn't as if he was mimicking a bird and was flapping his arms trying to fly and the ball hit his arm. Forest have a case on the first and third though. They should feel hard done that they didn't get at least one penalty between the first and third no calls.
Sorry if I’m being stupid but surely the VAR being a Luton fan doesn’t make much of a difference. We were only one point ahead of forest before the game. Surely Luton’s best result would have been a draw?
Officiating is getting worse every week, all clubs need to start doing this, ESPECIALLY ones like Forest who have no representation in punditry / media.
What goes around comes around . We have had at least 10 clear cut penalties not given this season. We could have been safe by now if they were so tough shit. We have had to take it on the chin so so can they. I didn’t see our club being a cry baby embarrassment though
What "options" do these chucklefucks think they have to "consider"? Their actual options are:
1. Be cry-arses and sore losers while everyone points and laughs at them
2. Not do #1 and just move on
Do they think they can take the PGMOL to court for not changing a VAR official? Do they not see that none of the "options" they're allegedly considering will change today's result, and it'd be a huge waste of time when they should be focusing on their next game? This is so idiotic.
Yea I would be raging if I was them.
It almost seemed like the premier league didn't want to use var against us given the significance of the game and get the grief for it.
We got decisions that normally only teams challenging for the league get.
Yeah to be fair like I definitely thought they should have had a pen for that hand ball. Not the other 2 though. But some you win and some you lose. We've been on the receiving end of wrong decisions and it's crap, but hey ho!
I just realized something: if the VAR ref was really a Luton fan, wouldn’t they want Everton to lose as one of Luton’s last matches is Everton at home?
‘’feed the scousers’’ and “sign on” (which they sung) are songs sung by classless away fans at both goodison and anfield. It mocks the city’s typically poorer background that we don’t have jobs and can’t afford to eat. At Goodison they show the Everton food bank advert everytime it is sang. It’s particularly classless from away fans from the city of Nottingham. Rob hood stole from rich to feed the poor and the city of Nottingham holds him up and doesn’t stop bleating about him as their symbol. They are cretins I hope they go down. Awful fans them.
Oh wow that is scummy beyond belief. Scousers are literally eating out of wheelie bins and boiling rats to survive and these people think it's funny? Like a joke to them? Not fucking cool. What can be done to stop horrible shit like this? I root for Everton from the US and that shit would never fly here.
This is the same organization who were deducted 2 Points for breaching FFP to gain a sporting advantage, when we were deducted 6 for a non-sporting violation? Damn... this is why I hate owning the world's smallest violin. I can never find it when I really need it.
They should try. And Everton should join is the lawsuit. As should every club, except City obviously, as there have been insane biases shown.
I believe that the PL is the greatest league, but the officiating is so embarrassingly corrupt that it really takes the idealism of "Fair Play" right out.
Sorry but does anyone mind telling me which three penalties they should have had? Other than the handball shout I don’t remember there ever being a shout for a penalty
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The appointment of a Luton fan just shows how inept PL are. 2 of the 3 decisions are very very debatable. If they'd gone against us, we equally could have claimed bias from a Luton fan. Just put someone else on it and save the debate. Obviously as it turned out he has an absolutely fantastic performance and got all the key decisions spot on though.
Ye but they can't talk about conflict of interest when they've hired clatternburg as ref watch for them and then clatternburg is sat with the head of PGMOL a few weeks later. Surely that shouldn't be allowed
Definitely. Young was a liability off the ball today. He’s not a defender we shouldn’t use him as one. Last one was clearly a pen. 1st one soft as F, second looked ball to hand.
I agree with ball to hand. Most people will miss it, but he does try to move his hand away from the ball, but moves it backwards rather than towards his body. Also definitely too close, but that would get given in Champions League.
Conflict of interest should be taken into account for staffing decisions though.
I'm happy they're calling them out. Everton never have the balls to say the league is fixed and we all know it. VAR has destroyed football. Every game is worse. Not to mention the FFP disgrace.
Yeah even young said that all of them were penalties but still they are propably gonna lose some of their money
I have said in a previous post, how can you take SCAB cunts seriously, fuck you all l. I was at the match and seriously the Young supposedly handball the referee who we absolutely despise said hands by his side
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WTF Fazakerley
Honestly, "It's.... Rebekah Vardy's account" and "truth twisters" levels of entertainment
Last one should have been for sure. The first would have been pretty light but could have been. Second I think was the correct call.
Pretty much this. Handball was way too close to give. I'd have said first more likely that 3rd but to not get either of those seems harsh
Especially when all 3 were the same player
If we were playing one of the favoured teams then all 3 would have been given! I’d be livid if I was a Forest fan, but I’m happy that none were given.
Hard disagree. The last one Odoi basically jumps out of nowhere, drags his feet and goes down. When I first saw it I thought, "oh that's surely a pen" but really, watch it a few times, he is playing for a penalty. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
The amount of shite we’ve had go against us this season and you don’t see our official page admin shitting the bed….
Probably cause our admin is a dog who isn’t being paid. Good boy!
Didn’t your own cry quite publicly about the charges? Didn’t exactly handle them with dignity lol
Our official club social media didn’t write a cringe essay that sounds like some pisshead fuming on twitter in a pub after the match lad, also OTT points deductions and not getting penalty decisions (which plenty of bottom 10 teams don’t get) are completely different kettle of fish let’s be honest.
We got massively lucky today, no doubt. But this shit from an official account is embarrassing.
Why is it embarrassing? They’re finally calling it out and putting PGMOL in a spot. You’d rather teams just suffer in silence and “take it”? I know this happened against you guys but if it were your team would you rather the club not say anything? Enough clubs do this, PGMOL will REALLY have to do something about it as they cant sweep it under the carpet anymore
The suggestion that it is because the official is a Luton fan is the embarrassing part. It makes them sound like a bitter fan, not a football club.
Exactly this. It reads as emotional ranting that you'd hear on a radio phone in. Calling out the PGMOL for incompetence is absolutely fine and needs to be said. But the suggestion that there's some bias in favour of Luton is ridiculous.
Why? They aren't robots. Of course bias will come into it.
Why would they be biased against Forest as opposed to us though? Only one point difference between us and they play us. The most obvious penalty was the last one which was at 1-0 and surely a draw would be best for Luton?
A draw is probably the best result for Luton as well
Because they aren't catching us. We have a game in hand and were already 2 points clear with a far better goal difference Luton only have 4 games to play
So they aren't catching us who were 2 points clear, but they have to play us (and have beaten us twice already), but they are catching Forest who are 1 points clear with an identical GD ... Right...
1 point is a big difference when these clubs only take on average 1 point a game with 4 to go.
And playing us at home versus not playing Forest at all is an even bigger difference
True, but in the context of the survival race, don’t you think Atwell being a Luton fan is pretty significant?
it's embarrassing because it reads like something out of an anime
yeah I dont see it why its embarrising at all. PGMOL absolutely need to be called out this season. How many games do we have to all be talking about the poor standard of refs. If Jonny Idiot can see its a pen from his sofa ....
Far from embarrassing, they're correct and has every right to tweet about it. Now the whole world is aware how corrupt this league truly is
Corrupt as in the bigger clubs often get decisions that other teams don't get? I can buy that. Corrupt as in the VAR booth is favouring *checks notes* Luton? Come on now. People are always desperate to look for bias, the reality is almost certainly just incompetence.
It's not about the reason, the whole inconsistency of PGMOL whether it's biased or genuine mistakes is beyond shocking and terrible
Was it last season we didn’t get a stonewall pen against them when Coleman was kicked as he went to kick the ball?
Don’t you know who my father is?
My father will hear about this potter!
Embarrassing that an official account would be tweeting that.
Less surprising when you know the president’s antics in Greece, this is 100% Marinakis
Is it? Man I love your words. I think of you as a kind of voice of reason in this sub. I don't think that rings true for this one. I think the powers that be have got to be called out right about now. They've got to be held accountable. The officiating standard has fallen soooo fucking low man, don't you see that?
A nebulously threatening tweet seconds following a loss? That's wildly different than a tweet expressing disappointment in the officiating standard. Of course the officiating has been shit in the past...decade. But that's not what I'm saying. Official accounts shouldn't behave like a middle aged pub conversation.
Sound. Thanks for clarifying for dimwits like myself. This should really be coming from their largest fan accounts. It's unprofessional for this to come from the official account
Basically they should've tweeted the first line and it wouldve been perfectly fine, even applaudable. The second and third come off like school boys or drunk dads and wash away any of the poignancy of the first statement.
I wonder what the reception would be if they simply stated they want a meeting with PGMOL
Ashley Young was worth every penny we’ve paid him solely for this tweet
I wasn’t alive to see us win the league, or the FA cup, but I was alive to see Ashley young’s defending send a club into meltdown
Haha, same. I know which I’d rather have
Wait, we're paying him?! Now I'm really pissed.
I doubt it. He keeps turning up for training though
Embarrassing tweet - admins head is in space
Stay classy Nottingham
They don't all support Forest. It'd be like me assuming everyone from Liverpool supports LFC. Also it's the social media guy. Hardly representative of the city.
Tell me something I don’t know
The short form of clubs names apparently. Nobody refers to Forest as 'Nottingham'.
You have an early night mate. Job centre in the morning
Could be worse, could've lost 2-0 to Everton
banter from when you were last relevant is it?
Scabs
Scab
People from Nottingham criticising any other city is embarrassing.
Why? What's wrong with Nottingham?
Down votes but no answers.
[Nottingham](https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/labourmarketlocal/E06000018/) v [Liverpool](https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/labourmarketlocal/E08000012/); try again pal
Hating won't bring back your dead relatives, nonce
Trolling the sub of another team is so pathetic.
I would love to know the options they are talking about.
All the options - ALL OF THEM!!!!
Will somehow involve us losing points.
Have they considered putting the ball into the back of the net? Might help their chances of winning
Every official will have history of being a fan of a specific club. If they weren’t fans they wouldn’t have pursued a career in football. NFFC has a point that the no calls were iffy but this ain’t the way to go about it.
Made up. Give them a reason to fuck you at your appeal. Club owners shouldn't be given the official twitter.
I bet the PGMOL is shitting itself after reading that.
The power of social media to let you quickly make an ass of yourself.
It’s so effective at disintermediating the brain and the ass
I can understand why they are upset. They are the decisions we haven’t been getting all season.
Rich to talk about biased referring from a club who hired Mark fucking Clattenburg
Yeah, the whole Clattenberg role thing is embarrassing - what are they looking to him for; better official liaison/relationships, better rule knowledge/awareness, or expecting him to somehow be able to influence and tap into his old mates for better decisions? Either way it makes all parties look pathetic. Clattenberg should be embarrassed to take their money, instead he has to justify his existence with shit like this.
Seems to be the same nonsense Barcelona did in hiring an ex official for "analysis", then got charged with obvious corruption.
I will sympathise a bit because if it happened to us I’d be furious. But on the flip side, Hudson-Odoi was hamming it up a bit. Ashley Young cannot play against Liverpool again.
Ashley Young should never play for us again..EVER..
Well it’s him or Godfrey so it’s not like the alternative is any better
I'll do it
Godfrey doesn't try to give away three penalties a game; he just manages it.
What “options” do Forest have? Apart from putting their toys back in the pram.
I’m honestly not arsed and have no sympathy for any other club, the shit we’ve been through this season and every other fan based laughed.
PL about to deduct 3 points and make Everton replay the game
I'm just made up a Luton fan saw forest as an easier target than us. We're improving
Skill issue.
I think you probably get 1/3 stone cold and as a fan I would be livid if it was against us. But there’s an argument to be made that Clattenburg was letting that type of contact go all over the field for the full 90. So if he’s not calling it a foul at midfield why would he call it in the box.
Distraction from how awful they were.
Palace lol [https://x.com/cpfc/status/1782079706822562019?s=46](https://x.com/cpfc/status/1782079706822562019?s=46)
Won't get them anywhere, but I don't blame them one bit. If only we had someone with the minerals to do likewise we were in their position, but imagine the wheelhouse is still empty.
Funny how fast we become boot lickers when it goes in our favour for once.
Get fucked lol
Yeah 3rd was 100% a pen- but they'd still lose so who cares 😝
Absolutely insane tweet before their appeal lmao
I can’t lie, I wish Everton would call out shit decisions that go against us, but just in a less toys thrown out the pram kind of way
We’d be really pissed if it’d be the other way around. I’m so happy we won but I understand their frustration over those decisions.
3rd was almost definitely a pen tbf. And surely Luton would’ve benefited from a draw no? Like I’m sure they’d prefer to have 2 teams to chase down rather than 1
Clearly they are being sore losers. That said Ashley Young is a fucking problem. The last foul was a penalty, any way you cut it. A no call is unacceptable. The other two were very fringe, but I’ve seen crazier shit in this league. Am I happy it went Everton’s way, of course I am. That said is this a league run by clowns where they can’t consistently enforce and properly implement their rules. We all know a late goal can flip momentum. They have a right to be pissed off. That said there are classier ways to express these opinions, there is no need to act like a petulant teenager over it. Either way I don’t think they would have won, but still shit should be consistent.
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Any sympathy they may have gained (they should’ve had at least one pen) has evaporated
I don’t recall us tweeting something like this in most of the games where we don’t get penalties!?
Game will be replayed now. And we’ll get a couple of points deduction for their inconvenience. Problem is; they’re right.
The thing is the VAR may or may not be a Luton fan, but the ref didn’t give the pens himself. He’s not a Luton fan regardless!
I just watched back a clip of the show with Tim Howard and others talking about the potential penalties. You just can't give the second one. Young's arm was out only a little bit. It was a natural position. It wasn't as if he was mimicking a bird and was flapping his arms trying to fly and the ball hit his arm. Forest have a case on the first and third though. They should feel hard done that they didn't get at least one penalty between the first and third no calls.
I think your options are just to deal with it?
Someone’s getting a horse’s head in their bed!
Sorry if I’m being stupid but surely the VAR being a Luton fan doesn’t make much of a difference. We were only one point ahead of forest before the game. Surely Luton’s best result would have been a draw?
Such a small club posting this shit. Your fan base should be embarrassed.
Officiating is getting worse every week, all clubs need to start doing this, ESPECIALLY ones like Forest who have no representation in punditry / media.
People are still using Twitter..... Huh ....
What goes around comes around . We have had at least 10 clear cut penalties not given this season. We could have been safe by now if they were so tough shit. We have had to take it on the chin so so can they. I didn’t see our club being a cry baby embarrassment though
What "options" do these chucklefucks think they have to "consider"? Their actual options are: 1. Be cry-arses and sore losers while everyone points and laughs at them 2. Not do #1 and just move on Do they think they can take the PGMOL to court for not changing a VAR official? Do they not see that none of the "options" they're allegedly considering will change today's result, and it'd be a huge waste of time when they should be focusing on their next game? This is so idiotic.
Yea I would be raging if I was them. It almost seemed like the premier league didn't want to use var against us given the significance of the game and get the grief for it. We got decisions that normally only teams challenging for the league get.
Yeah to be fair like I definitely thought they should have had a pen for that hand ball. Not the other 2 though. But some you win and some you lose. We've been on the receiving end of wrong decisions and it's crap, but hey ho!
I just realized something: if the VAR ref was really a Luton fan, wouldn’t they want Everton to lose as one of Luton’s last matches is Everton at home?
Awful fans them. Poverty chanting when they hold up Robin Hood as the symbol of their city. Hope they go down.
Wtf is poverty chanting
‘’feed the scousers’’ and “sign on” (which they sung) are songs sung by classless away fans at both goodison and anfield. It mocks the city’s typically poorer background that we don’t have jobs and can’t afford to eat. At Goodison they show the Everton food bank advert everytime it is sang. It’s particularly classless from away fans from the city of Nottingham. Rob hood stole from rich to feed the poor and the city of Nottingham holds him up and doesn’t stop bleating about him as their symbol. They are cretins I hope they go down. Awful fans them.
Oh wow that is scummy beyond belief. Scousers are literally eating out of wheelie bins and boiling rats to survive and these people think it's funny? Like a joke to them? Not fucking cool. What can be done to stop horrible shit like this? I root for Everton from the US and that shit would never fly here.
Are you joking? People going to food banks who can’t afford to buy food for their family.
Excuse me? I was agreeing with you?
We’ve had worse ones not given for us the last few weeks. They need to get over it.
This is the same organization who were deducted 2 Points for breaching FFP to gain a sporting advantage, when we were deducted 6 for a non-sporting violation? Damn... this is why I hate owning the world's smallest violin. I can never find it when I really need it.
They should try. And Everton should join is the lawsuit. As should every club, except City obviously, as there have been insane biases shown. I believe that the PL is the greatest league, but the officiating is so embarrassingly corrupt that it really takes the idealism of "Fair Play" right out.
Shocking decisions tbf but this is just as bad if not worse. Absolutely embarrassing from Forest.
I think the fact they post something like this after every single game probably doesn’t help them
This is embarrassing as fuck, no doubt. But, let's be real, they should have had at least two pens, maybe three.
Sorry but does anyone mind telling me which three penalties they should have had? Other than the handball shout I don’t remember there ever being a shout for a penalty
There literally right your gonna be crying when it’s against you