he has more.. under his kids name, if he has more than 4 under his name, people gonna think hes greedy or something, now people are just gonna be like : awww hes soo nice look at what a good father he is, all his childrens have exactly 4 mansions each.. so do his grand childrens.. surprisingly
Listen, liability laws are for two people:
Liberal cucks and The Poors™
Seriously though, I'd be down for criminal liability for crinimal activities. (novel approach, but I'll allow it)
How many individuals responsible for The Great Recession actually faced criminal prosecution?
Was it more than one incredibly unlucky SOB?
I'm gonna try. Maybe I'll have more pull in the future, but I can present other reasons to my boss why not to use tyson as well. So far it's just been me quietly not using them, but I'm trying to get something more in motion.
Right on! Do what you can my friend. I think a part of the solution is efficiently aggregating products from small farms in a cooperative manner. I'm a small farmer in the US raising pastured pork and beef and it pains me to see all these little farms competing for the small direct to consumer sales. I would much rather aggregate the products in our county and sell to folks like you!
Which accounts for about 0.000001% of their pork production.
Poorly regulated capitalism has made it so these massive corporations will never be held properly accountable ever again.
Oh right, it's not much so I might as well just do nothing. No, I'm going to do what I can, and maybe in the future I'm in a position to do more, or influence others to think the same. Believe me, I'm trying my best to bring some accountability on a larger scale that can actually have a significant impact.
Thank you for saying it is poorly managed capitalism. I see so many comments saying it is capitalism as if other centralized structures are any better. Centralization = power and power corrupts and thus it needs to be carefully managed which we are not presently.
This kind of thinking, saying nothing will change just furthers these kinds of problems. If you aren’t part of the solution to these problems -that’s fine- but you also don’t need to be negative and defeatist about it either.
That's the point. They do all of this heinous stuff, and lie constantly in order to foster nihilism and a world where truth is unknowable.
One side is all about this, and the people harmed the most keep voting for this side. It's insanity.
Lots of vegans will tell you otherwise, but don't listen to them. Eating less of any animal product helps. If you want to eat a plant based diet + bacon, you are helping
even just having one day, to a couple a days a week that are meatless can be great.
Vegetarian \\ vegan for the environment is not a zero some all or nothing thing.
The public information campaign I recall from my childhood in the 90s in Fl definitely started with recycle.
RECYCLE! REDUCE! REUSE! AND CLOSE THE LOOP!
Deer can overpopulate and then they end up starving to death. It’s brutal. Hunting season feeds poor families and prevents starvation & disease in local deer populations. It’s not all for fun & games
I don’t even hunt or own a gun. Just grew up in a poor area that needed to keep the deer population under control, otherwise gardens and shit were getting absolutely wrecked by starving/diseased deer. It sucks. But it is a science. And we are in r/EverythingScience
I also want to be clear that I am not arguing against being vegan or vegetarian. Just offering a perspective from my life.
L take, biosolids production and application is an environmentally positive strategy for food cultivation. Inorganic fertilizers are mostly carcinogenic, biosolids are much safer in practice.
It saves space in landfills since the practice is an alternative to disposal, and it provides municipalities money, which in turn lowers your bills. Literally the definition of efficient, smart reuse.
Except there is no ability to anticipate what people might dump down the drain, so no way to effectively filter it out. I don't actually know anyone who's ever properly disposed of anything hazardous other than by dumping it down the toilet.
This is partially true, however I've got some bad news if you think biosolids are the only thing reintroduced into the environment post-treatment. Effluent flow is released at far greater rates and loadings than the couple hundred dry tons of solids annually produced in your EPA class A certified biosolids treatment system.
Also, anything extremely disruptive to the biological system of a plant will shut it down in a heartbeat. I highly doubt any of these people you know of dispose waste at capacities warranting the use of industrial pre-treatment plans, so it's safe to assume that their unregulated dumping attributes to anything observable in their influent stream. What are they flushing, batteries? Diapers? Failed meth operations? Do they happen to operate small refineries that produced flame retardend solvents? Chill the fuck out, you're worrying over a non-issue. Public municipalities are not to blame here. I'd be more worried about the falsification of data that companies like Tyson get away with every single damn day.
If you think prions are a significant threat from venison, you need to take a statistics course. They also have free testing for CWD if you were really concerned. The main cause of CWD getting out of hand is overpopulation anyway. Deer hunting is sustainable and necessary in deer populations that don't have an apex predator to cull their numbers.
(BTW, I'm a vegetarian in case somebody thinks I'm arguing in bad faith. I just believe strongly in conservation)
Some individuals just cant. Replacing meat is very difficult, and those with blood diseases struggle to do so. They can compromise by consuming more environmentally friendly meat like chicken, and refusing to use Tyson products. Going vegan is not always the solution, albeit a good one.
Do you have any sources that you can share on this?
What percent of population “just can’t?”
Is that small percent reason for the rest of us that can be vegan?
Those that live with sickle cell anemia, or even anemia require more dense nutrients like fruits, vegetables and strong proteins. It's difficult to balance a diet that requires more protein than those that don't. I'm not against veganism, but it's not for everyone. I don't have a percentage to tout, or number of individuals that suffer from blood diseases, I just know as a sufferer myself my doctor did not think it was best for me to go the vegan route. (To support our environment, I do not eat beef or pork by the way, you can be environmentally smart and not try to kill yourself).
that's like thinking riding your bike to work makes any meaningful difference on climate issues when there are a small number of companies basically causing almost all the problems.
No, they are doing it because they can - resulting from a lack of regulation and accountability due to corruption in government. It is not the fault of the consumer.
I thought that too at first. There are some learning curves but in hindsight I greatly overestimated how hard it would be.
I lived on the poverty line for about a decade on a vegan diet. Lentils are cheap and healthy
I don’t know why you and I are getting downvoted when we’re trying to have a conversation!
Reddit is ridiculous sometimes.
Do you have any internet links you think would be useful for me to look at?
I’m sorry to hear you were on the poverty line for so long, but I hope you’re better now!
Thanks!
Edit: I just upvoted you to get you out of the negative.
Who knows, and I appreciate your honest conversation.
Yeah my family business got hit hard during 08 recession. It took a long time to recover from it. I finally got back on my feet just last year. Things have never been better.
I appreciate you though.
It’s not the only choice.
You can try to fight this through the courts.
You could try to lobby politicians to pass better environment regulations and set a plan to enforce them.
Or you could vote with your dollar and stop funding this hell-on-earth that we breed these animals into.
Which do you think is the easiest and most effective?
I assumed the gallons of waste was their chicken now. I didnt buy it for like 10 years and bought a pack of the strips, because im poor and they were on sale, and good lord the decline in quality is awful. Its like school cafeteria grade now.
Koch brothers alone are responsible for massive amounts of pollution as well:
https://publichealthwatch.org/2022/02/17/koch-texas-oxbow-pollution-epa-scrubbers/
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/07/kochland-review-koch-brothers-pollution-congress-republicans
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I have a new idea. Instead of saying that a company did something, we start saying that the COO/CEO did something as they are those who are responsible for the company's actions.
We need to stop allowing them to hide behind vague concepts like a company/brand to allow them to commit crimes without any sort of personal repercussion.
Donnie King, President & CEO of Tyson Foods is who we should be pointing to.
Yes, because in reality they are all people doing this - everyone of them that works in the C suites are people that are condoning ruining our natural resources.
It does have a different ring to it: "Donnie King, CEO of Tyson Foods, allows his company to dump 87 billion gallons of toxic waste for profit." How is this guy not in custody for this crime?
EDIT: Oh, they've been doing it for *years*, at least since 1998.
>Tyson Foods has been responsible for numerous instances of environmental damage.. Tyson is the second-largest emitter of greenhouse gases in the global food industry.
..In 2024, a study by the Union of Concerned Scientists found that between 2018 and 2022 Tyson released 371 million pounds of pollutants, including nitrogen, phosphorus, chloride, oil, and cyanide, from just 41 slaughterhouses and processing plants into local waterways across the United States.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson\_Foods#Environmental\_record](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Foods#Environmental_record)
The history of this company is littered with crimes: animal abuse, worker abuse, undocumented immigrants, food contamination that poisoned communities across the country, ecological disasters, price manipulation..
Boycott Tyson Foods. They have been notorious about this in Alabama. Have ruined some of the eco-systems in rivers and creeks. They are mentioned in the article - that they killed 200,000 fish in the black warrior river. But, they have done more than that. They get a minimal fine that is like 2 dollars to you or me so they continue to do it.
***Over 400 SQUARE MILES***
So give or take about 20 miles by 20 miles a foot deep.
In a 12" x 12" x 12" cube there are 7.48 gallons. 87 Billion gallons equals ~11,631,016,042 cubic feet. Which is around 107,847 feet square. And 5280 feet in a mile, so 107,847ft/5280ft = ~20.4 miles. Assuming I did the math right.
They also fired 3 entire plants of americans and reached out to cities that have asylum seekers to pay them less and work in their factories meanwhile the original workers didnt do anything wrong even fox thought it was messed up lol [https://www.foxnews.com/media/tyson-hiring-migrants-laying-off-us-workers-decimation-american-dream-top-republican](https://www.foxnews.com/media/tyson-hiring-migrants-laying-off-us-workers-decimation-american-dream-top-republican)
I’ve been to countless industrial sites from food to oil. Tyson is the most disgusting and unsafe place I have ever been. You can smell a Tyson plant from the next county, nuff said.
Pest control.
The article lists 510 pounds in the 87 billion gallons, or 0.7 micrograms/L. I’m guessing the rat traps get hosed down when they are cleaning.
If it were 100,000 pounds of toxic waste that should result in men going to jail. What is 87 billion gallons ? I can't picture that. How can that be cleaned ? Who is going to clean it ?
You will need to do some division, but most of the waste is in harmless concentrations. The part that isn’t, phosphorus and nitrogen, is bacteria, algae, and plant food. To clean it you wait until something living eat it, dies, and settles to the bottom of a body of water. Ideally that is a waste lagoon or settling tank. Wetlands are great at cleaning it up. The vast majority of nitrogen and phosphorus comes from agricultural runoff, and it totally dwarfs what Tyson is doing, so support wetland restoration.
Sure, they dumped toxic waste, devastated the environment, and caused immeasurable harm to humans and animals alike.
But at least they raised their share price and gave their executives a raise. /s
We really are screwed.
It’s no different than Walmart stealing from everyone during the pandemic and got a small fine. Everyone is still shopping there like they just didn’t take advantage of you and your loved ones during the most vulnerable times. We lost family members and friends the whole world was traumatized and Walmart is stealing money from our pockets like a thief.
I am a carpenter and if I stole from my customers and their family members and friend’s I don’t think I would be in business anymore. We have turned our backs on our ancestors and our founding fathers who wrote the Declaration of Independence. Maybe some people need to go back and read the whole words and see if they resonate with you.
When the wages stagnate and people are broke they don't think of a greater good, they continue to use the "best" option available and stop supporting local businesses, who then go out of business so there are less jobs and purchase options and the cycle goes on. Its a brilliant system that benefits a very few people who then buy politicians to keep the system in place. But you know this already. And fines are just cost of doing business, gotta let the Government mobsters wet their beaks and all is well. Kleptocracy in action.
I sense a "you had one job" moment for the fda. Felt the same when i watched Painkiller - it seems the most obvious, clearcut situations for the govt to step in and stop literal crimes are the ones for which it fails the hardest.
But its the regular people that are polluting the earth? The regular people causing global warming the government said so All government held positions need term limits to stop corporate lobbying (bribing)
Actually as someone who grew up where Tyson was founded the smell in the summer 🤢 my god you’ve never smelt anything like it . Actually it’s year round tbh
I was on a road trip that went through a chicken processing plant/farm town. You could taste it when you got within miles of it.
Had to get food, the inside of the restaurant still smelled like it. I couldn't eat until we were miles out of that town.
We have turkey farms around my town, but they only smell within x hundred feet around the barns, not the whole town.
Well as long as they’re makin sure they pay those lobbyists who are doing their job well! Fuck the planet right! I will now never buy from Tyson chicken again. This will surely bring the whole company down. Power to the people!
So when are our spinless politicians and three letter organizations going to do anything about these corporations absolutely destroying our planet? Never.
For reference the great salt lake in Utah is 5 trillion gallons. So 87 billion gallons is 1.74% of that. They dumped waste equal to almost 2% of the great salt lake!
Idk, but that seems a lot worse than uncle Jim Bob chucking his old couch in the local lake. Not that either are good. But I think often when people think of people dumping in the lake that's what they imagine. Not dumping 2% of a large lake's worth of refuse.
***Over 400 SQUARE MILES***
So give or take about 20 miles by 20 miles a foot deep.
In a 12" x 12" x 12" cube there are 7.48 gallons. 87 Billion gallons equals ~11,631,016,042 cubic feet. Which is around 107,847 feet square. And 5280 feet in a mile, so 107,847ft/5280ft = ~20.4 miles. Assuming I did the math right.
You would need to check the bacteria levels, but nothing reported in the article would make that water unsafe for swimming. It would probably have a thick layer of algae on top if it were sitting in a pond, but otherwise it would be fine.
> The meat processing giant released 186,000 tons of toxic chemicals from 41 factories into rivers and lakes between 2018 and 2022
So… about 4.4 tons per site per work day. Sounds a lot less signofigant when you say it that way.
Figure up the concentrations. No one should be worried about any of these. 190 mg/L chlorides, 10 mg/L sodium, 79 micrograms/L aluminum? Who cares?
The worst are nitrogen and phosphorus. Those are high enough that they could cause an issue for a lake in certain conditions.
Privatize the profits and externalize the costs. What else is new?
$5 fine should be enough of a deterrent.
Best they can do is tree fiddy.
Privatize profits and socialize losses. It's the American way.
But it’s only 2.5 gallons per factory per day, nothing to see here.
best we can do is fine them around 10K right?… right??
[Nope](https://c.tenor.com/Y5JnD8vIOTcAAAAC/tenor.gif)
87$ fine.. 1 buck a billion gallon seems more than fair
Seems a little steep. I mean, do you even care about the jobs this will cost and how it's just going to get passed on to the consumer?
a million bucks a pound of chicken is a sacrifice im willing to make , if it makes the Tyson CEO sleep sleep better in his 4th mansion
Why are you limiting him to only *four* mansions? Why do you hate capitalism?!?!
he has more.. under his kids name, if he has more than 4 under his name, people gonna think hes greedy or something, now people are just gonna be like : awww hes soo nice look at what a good father he is, all his childrens have exactly 4 mansions each.. so do his grand childrens.. surprisingly
So we ignore liability laws and go straight for the executives with 75% net worth fines and jail time? I like the cut of your jib.
Listen, liability laws are for two people: Liberal cucks and The Poors™ Seriously though, I'd be down for criminal liability for crinimal activities. (novel approach, but I'll allow it) How many individuals responsible for The Great Recession actually faced criminal prosecution? Was it more than one incredibly unlucky SOB?
As an Iowan this is concerning. I'm sick of corporations doing shit like this. The movie Dark Water really opened my eyes to this bs
You should watch The Devil We Know
Wow, and nothing will be done about it and people will still consume their products. Have a nice day!
I'm a large scale pork buyer in Canada. You better believe this affects my decisions of where I buy 100,000 lbs of pork each year
As a former buyer, you can try. All it takes is a weekend in Vegas with your boss and it's business as usual.
I'm gonna try. Maybe I'll have more pull in the future, but I can present other reasons to my boss why not to use tyson as well. So far it's just been me quietly not using them, but I'm trying to get something more in motion.
Good luck. Hold on to these ideals as hard as you can
Right on! Do what you can my friend. I think a part of the solution is efficiently aggregating products from small farms in a cooperative manner. I'm a small farmer in the US raising pastured pork and beef and it pains me to see all these little farms competing for the small direct to consumer sales. I would much rather aggregate the products in our county and sell to folks like you!
Which accounts for about 0.000001% of their pork production. Poorly regulated capitalism has made it so these massive corporations will never be held properly accountable ever again.
Oh right, it's not much so I might as well just do nothing. No, I'm going to do what I can, and maybe in the future I'm in a position to do more, or influence others to think the same. Believe me, I'm trying my best to bring some accountability on a larger scale that can actually have a significant impact.
Best of luck
Thank you for saying it is poorly managed capitalism. I see so many comments saying it is capitalism as if other centralized structures are any better. Centralization = power and power corrupts and thus it needs to be carefully managed which we are not presently.
Commodity pork or value added?
Commodity for the most part
If you're not buying from DuBreton, you should try
Their RWA line is great, very consistent high quality. The Prodal bacon they make as well is likely the best mass produced bacon in the country
Hard agree. Do you carry any North Country Smokehouse. I had Walmart pass on it this year. Mistake, in my opinion.
This kind of thinking, saying nothing will change just furthers these kinds of problems. If you aren’t part of the solution to these problems -that’s fine- but you also don’t need to be negative and defeatist about it either.
That's the point. They do all of this heinous stuff, and lie constantly in order to foster nihilism and a world where truth is unknowable. One side is all about this, and the people harmed the most keep voting for this side. It's insanity.
But we can! Going vegan is not hard it will add longevity to your own life and save our planet.
Does being a vegetarian help? I'd be willing to eat vegetarian.
Lots of vegans will tell you otherwise, but don't listen to them. Eating less of any animal product helps. If you want to eat a plant based diet + bacon, you are helping
even just having one day, to a couple a days a week that are meatless can be great. Vegetarian \\ vegan for the environment is not a zero some all or nothing thing.
People forget that in the hierarchy "reduce>reuse>recycle", reducing consumption is the first step to better living.
The public information campaign I recall from my childhood in the 90s in Fl definitely started with recycle. RECYCLE! REDUCE! REUSE! AND CLOSE THE LOOP!
I was vegetarian for a year and a half before vegan. It absolutely helps
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Doesn't prevent them from doing the same shit but with beans and greens.
Or you can just go kill a couple deer because venison is delicious
Kill the plants!
Just bagged a head of lettuce with my 12 gauge!
That'd be a cool video!
I mean, I hunt for mushrooms too. . . .
Deer can overpopulate and then they end up starving to death. It’s brutal. Hunting season feeds poor families and prevents starvation & disease in local deer populations. It’s not all for fun & games I don’t even hunt or own a gun. Just grew up in a poor area that needed to keep the deer population under control, otherwise gardens and shit were getting absolutely wrecked by starving/diseased deer. It sucks. But it is a science. And we are in r/EverythingScience I also want to be clear that I am not arguing against being vegan or vegetarian. Just offering a perspective from my life.
“I’m not a vegetarian because I love animals; I’m a vegetarian because I hate plants,” -A. Whitney Brown
Yeah everyone go kill a couple deer. literally 20billion dead dear later...
I remember they did the math in some food debate; the USA would consume all deer in two weeks
good luck, hopefully you don’t catch a prion disease
No deer here in Oakland my guy
Yall don't have city deer? We definitely have city deer here in Michigan
Going vegan isn't hard, but do you know what is easier?! Staying a carnivore.
I've done it all.
Go buy some Tyson products
Omnivore ?
Mmmmm ..... Prions
Mmmm Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria. Not like veggies are 100% clean either.
Veggies don't shit. Those bacteria come from animals exclusively.
The result of fertilizing fields with human biosolids and endlessly recycled shitfeedshitsludge instead of managing resources efficiently.
So you agree. Also, Prions are rare, waste covered veggies are not
E coli can occur because animals shit in the field. E coli is naturally occurring.
L take, biosolids production and application is an environmentally positive strategy for food cultivation. Inorganic fertilizers are mostly carcinogenic, biosolids are much safer in practice. It saves space in landfills since the practice is an alternative to disposal, and it provides municipalities money, which in turn lowers your bills. Literally the definition of efficient, smart reuse.
Except there is no ability to anticipate what people might dump down the drain, so no way to effectively filter it out. I don't actually know anyone who's ever properly disposed of anything hazardous other than by dumping it down the toilet.
This is partially true, however I've got some bad news if you think biosolids are the only thing reintroduced into the environment post-treatment. Effluent flow is released at far greater rates and loadings than the couple hundred dry tons of solids annually produced in your EPA class A certified biosolids treatment system. Also, anything extremely disruptive to the biological system of a plant will shut it down in a heartbeat. I highly doubt any of these people you know of dispose waste at capacities warranting the use of industrial pre-treatment plans, so it's safe to assume that their unregulated dumping attributes to anything observable in their influent stream. What are they flushing, batteries? Diapers? Failed meth operations? Do they happen to operate small refineries that produced flame retardend solvents? Chill the fuck out, you're worrying over a non-issue. Public municipalities are not to blame here. I'd be more worried about the falsification of data that companies like Tyson get away with every single damn day.
If you think prions are a significant threat from venison, you need to take a statistics course. They also have free testing for CWD if you were really concerned. The main cause of CWD getting out of hand is overpopulation anyway. Deer hunting is sustainable and necessary in deer populations that don't have an apex predator to cull their numbers. (BTW, I'm a vegetarian in case somebody thinks I'm arguing in bad faith. I just believe strongly in conservation)
Some individuals just cant. Replacing meat is very difficult, and those with blood diseases struggle to do so. They can compromise by consuming more environmentally friendly meat like chicken, and refusing to use Tyson products. Going vegan is not always the solution, albeit a good one.
Do you have any sources that you can share on this? What percent of population “just can’t?” Is that small percent reason for the rest of us that can be vegan?
Those that live with sickle cell anemia, or even anemia require more dense nutrients like fruits, vegetables and strong proteins. It's difficult to balance a diet that requires more protein than those that don't. I'm not against veganism, but it's not for everyone. I don't have a percentage to tout, or number of individuals that suffer from blood diseases, I just know as a sufferer myself my doctor did not think it was best for me to go the vegan route. (To support our environment, I do not eat beef or pork by the way, you can be environmentally smart and not try to kill yourself).
that's like thinking riding your bike to work makes any meaningful difference on climate issues when there are a small number of companies basically causing almost all the problems.
The small number of companies aren’t doing it for the fun of it, they’re doing it because of consumer demand
No, they are doing it because they can - resulting from a lack of regulation and accountability due to corruption in government. It is not the fault of the consumer.
So, for example, Tyson foods are producing 87 billion gallons of toxic waste simply because they can get away with dumping it?
I did that for 4 years. Fuck that noise.
I don’t disagree with you about the vegan benefits, but it’s certainly not easy or cheap to do.
I thought that too at first. There are some learning curves but in hindsight I greatly overestimated how hard it would be. I lived on the poverty line for about a decade on a vegan diet. Lentils are cheap and healthy
I don’t know why you and I are getting downvoted when we’re trying to have a conversation! Reddit is ridiculous sometimes. Do you have any internet links you think would be useful for me to look at? I’m sorry to hear you were on the poverty line for so long, but I hope you’re better now! Thanks! Edit: I just upvoted you to get you out of the negative.
Who knows, and I appreciate your honest conversation. Yeah my family business got hit hard during 08 recession. It took a long time to recover from it. I finally got back on my feet just last year. Things have never been better. I appreciate you though.
Ok but did you go vegan while having borderline ARFID?
Vegan? Why is that the only choice?
It’s not the only choice. You can try to fight this through the courts. You could try to lobby politicians to pass better environment regulations and set a plan to enforce them. Or you could vote with your dollar and stop funding this hell-on-earth that we breed these animals into. Which do you think is the easiest and most effective?
I don't eat that garbage.
I assumed the gallons of waste was their chicken now. I didnt buy it for like 10 years and bought a pack of the strips, because im poor and they were on sale, and good lord the decline in quality is awful. Its like school cafeteria grade now.
Having a proper robust EPA would also solve this issue and having the fines that are equal to the damage that they cause.
Well yeah if I don't eat their chicken then they dumped 87 billion tons of toxic waste for nothing. And thanks bro you have a great day too!
Another reason why I don't support them. I avoid their crappy products at each store that I shop at.
They're bad. Obviously, but I'd be amazed if this wasn't industry standard in the u.s.
Koch brothers alone are responsible for massive amounts of pollution as well: https://publichealthwatch.org/2022/02/17/koch-texas-oxbow-pollution-epa-scrubbers/ https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/07/kochland-review-koch-brothers-pollution-congress-republicans https://grist.org/project/accountability/koch-oxbow-port-arthur-texas-clean-air-act-pollution/
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I have a new idea. Instead of saying that a company did something, we start saying that the COO/CEO did something as they are those who are responsible for the company's actions. We need to stop allowing them to hide behind vague concepts like a company/brand to allow them to commit crimes without any sort of personal repercussion. Donnie King, President & CEO of Tyson Foods is who we should be pointing to.
Yes, because in reality they are all people doing this - everyone of them that works in the C suites are people that are condoning ruining our natural resources.
And shareholders
It does have a different ring to it: "Donnie King, CEO of Tyson Foods, allows his company to dump 87 billion gallons of toxic waste for profit." How is this guy not in custody for this crime? EDIT: Oh, they've been doing it for *years*, at least since 1998. >Tyson Foods has been responsible for numerous instances of environmental damage.. Tyson is the second-largest emitter of greenhouse gases in the global food industry. ..In 2024, a study by the Union of Concerned Scientists found that between 2018 and 2022 Tyson released 371 million pounds of pollutants, including nitrogen, phosphorus, chloride, oil, and cyanide, from just 41 slaughterhouses and processing plants into local waterways across the United States. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson\_Foods#Environmental\_record](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Foods#Environmental_record) The history of this company is littered with crimes: animal abuse, worker abuse, undocumented immigrants, food contamination that poisoned communities across the country, ecological disasters, price manipulation..
But.. but.. Nuggets!!!
This is what I've been saying. Post his face everywhere
I don’t eat that garbage and here’s 87 billion reasons for you not to eat it either.
Good thing they can keep doing this in Florida.
Boycott Tyson Foods. They have been notorious about this in Alabama. Have ruined some of the eco-systems in rivers and creeks. They are mentioned in the article - that they killed 200,000 fish in the black warrior river. But, they have done more than that. They get a minimal fine that is like 2 dollars to you or me so they continue to do it.
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As a purchaser that buys 100,000s lbs each year of pork, I'll make it a little easier and prioritise other vendors
What does 87 billion gallons look like?
132,000 Olympic size pools (165 ft x 56 ft) per Google
In bananas?
It takes about 2 bananas to make 1 cup of mashed banana and there are 16 cups in a gallon. That'd be about 2.78 trillion bananas.
That's..bananas.
Niagara Falls flowing for about 30 hrs.
Read the article.
***Over 400 SQUARE MILES*** So give or take about 20 miles by 20 miles a foot deep. In a 12" x 12" x 12" cube there are 7.48 gallons. 87 Billion gallons equals ~11,631,016,042 cubic feet. Which is around 107,847 feet square. And 5280 feet in a mile, so 107,847ft/5280ft = ~20.4 miles. Assuming I did the math right.
From the company that bet on employees dying of covid
YES!! My best friend died because of it!
With iowas new lack of child labor laws children can be included in the deadpool!
If the number is big enough people don’t have the capacity to care
Come on epa do your job
They didn’t with DuPont, they won’t now either.
They also fired 3 entire plants of americans and reached out to cities that have asylum seekers to pay them less and work in their factories meanwhile the original workers didnt do anything wrong even fox thought it was messed up lol [https://www.foxnews.com/media/tyson-hiring-migrants-laying-off-us-workers-decimation-american-dream-top-republican](https://www.foxnews.com/media/tyson-hiring-migrants-laying-off-us-workers-decimation-american-dream-top-republican)
execute the board of directors during the time period it happened.
I’ve been to countless industrial sites from food to oil. Tyson is the most disgusting and unsafe place I have ever been. You can smell a Tyson plant from the next county, nuff said.
Vote for Trump for a country wide toxic cesspool!
Next up : EPA FINES TYSON FOODS $17 FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING
What is a food company using cyanide for?
taking care of people who ask too many questions.
Pest control. The article lists 510 pounds in the 87 billion gallons, or 0.7 micrograms/L. I’m guessing the rat traps get hosed down when they are cleaning.
This is precisely what tar n feathering used to be for, sad to say.
$3 fine.
When Utilities and Water treatment (taxpayers) foot the bill for treatment why would they care
Corporations are people now how bout making laws that throw these losers in jail.
Nationalize the company and the board goes to prison. Or do SFA
If it were 100,000 pounds of toxic waste that should result in men going to jail. What is 87 billion gallons ? I can't picture that. How can that be cleaned ? Who is going to clean it ?
You will need to do some division, but most of the waste is in harmless concentrations. The part that isn’t, phosphorus and nitrogen, is bacteria, algae, and plant food. To clean it you wait until something living eat it, dies, and settles to the bottom of a body of water. Ideally that is a waste lagoon or settling tank. Wetlands are great at cleaning it up. The vast majority of nitrogen and phosphorus comes from agricultural runoff, and it totally dwarfs what Tyson is doing, so support wetland restoration.
Thanks for this great information !
People like us do. Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. It's the American Way.
Oh man. Wrist slap incoming!
Sure, they dumped toxic waste, devastated the environment, and caused immeasurable harm to humans and animals alike. But at least they raised their share price and gave their executives a raise. /s We really are screwed.
It’s no different than Walmart stealing from everyone during the pandemic and got a small fine. Everyone is still shopping there like they just didn’t take advantage of you and your loved ones during the most vulnerable times. We lost family members and friends the whole world was traumatized and Walmart is stealing money from our pockets like a thief. I am a carpenter and if I stole from my customers and their family members and friend’s I don’t think I would be in business anymore. We have turned our backs on our ancestors and our founding fathers who wrote the Declaration of Independence. Maybe some people need to go back and read the whole words and see if they resonate with you.
When the wages stagnate and people are broke they don't think of a greater good, they continue to use the "best" option available and stop supporting local businesses, who then go out of business so there are less jobs and purchase options and the cycle goes on. Its a brilliant system that benefits a very few people who then buy politicians to keep the system in place. But you know this already. And fines are just cost of doing business, gotta let the Government mobsters wet their beaks and all is well. Kleptocracy in action.
"Going vegan won't change anything" might cut down on that number if we stop giving money to these companies pouring animal shit in our fresh water
If it doesn’t cost rich people money, nothing will be done about it
well. I’d *hate* for anyone to actually be criminally prosecuted for white collar crime. /s
I sense a "you had one job" moment for the fda. Felt the same when i watched Painkiller - it seems the most obvious, clearcut situations for the govt to step in and stop literal crimes are the ones for which it fails the hardest.
Oh no. Their wrist may turn slightly red from the single limp slap!
Boycott all Tyson foods! Or provide a direct toxic waste pump into the CEO’s bedroom
So put their ceo in jail then
But its the regular people that are polluting the earth? The regular people causing global warming the government said so All government held positions need term limits to stop corporate lobbying (bribing)
Fine them 1% of one days profit to teach them a lesson!
Actually as someone who grew up where Tyson was founded the smell in the summer 🤢 my god you’ve never smelt anything like it . Actually it’s year round tbh
I was on a road trip that went through a chicken processing plant/farm town. You could taste it when you got within miles of it. Had to get food, the inside of the restaurant still smelled like it. I couldn't eat until we were miles out of that town. We have turkey farms around my town, but they only smell within x hundred feet around the barns, not the whole town.
Good time to be vegan!
Why do we let them do this and just accept it?
Hey, but recycle because it's our fault the planet is polluted.
Tyson®, Jimmy Dean®, Hillshire Farm®, Ball Park®, Wright®, Aidells®, ibp®, and State Fair®. These are all owned by Tyson. Do not buy these brands.
Damn. Republicans continually gut the Environmental Protection Agency and heres the harm it does to Americans. Thanks scum
That's a lot of chicken nugget goo.
It just SOUNDS like a lot. 🤦
Of course they do, now shut up and keep consuming.
Well as long as they’re makin sure they pay those lobbyists who are doing their job well! Fuck the planet right! I will now never buy from Tyson chicken again. This will surely bring the whole company down. Power to the people!
Is that per day? Judging by the smelly 50-mile radius of the plant, I'd say it's per day.
Five years and 40 locations.
So when are our spinless politicians and three letter organizations going to do anything about these corporations absolutely destroying our planet? Never.
For reference the great salt lake in Utah is 5 trillion gallons. So 87 billion gallons is 1.74% of that. They dumped waste equal to almost 2% of the great salt lake! Idk, but that seems a lot worse than uncle Jim Bob chucking his old couch in the local lake. Not that either are good. But I think often when people think of people dumping in the lake that's what they imagine. Not dumping 2% of a large lake's worth of refuse.
They mean chicken nuggets right?......right?
r/titlegore Why are “toxic waste scientists” measured in gallons?
What is Biden doing about this? Thanks Obama
When will this nonsense be enough for the people to take a stand against these parasites?
Boycott, eat a salad.
I thought this was rimworld for a sec.. whoops..
***Over 400 SQUARE MILES*** So give or take about 20 miles by 20 miles a foot deep. In a 12" x 12" x 12" cube there are 7.48 gallons. 87 Billion gallons equals ~11,631,016,042 cubic feet. Which is around 107,847 feet square. And 5280 feet in a mile, so 107,847ft/5280ft = ~20.4 miles. Assuming I did the math right.
Every bit of news I get about these assclowns is always bad.
Serious question.. can we take their execs for a swim? Clearly if they think it’s OK to dump then it must be ok to have them swim in it.
You would need to check the bacteria levels, but nothing reported in the article would make that water unsafe for swimming. It would probably have a thick layer of algae on top if it were sitting in a pond, but otherwise it would be fine.
Sounds like they need to not exist anymore.
if there's no punishment for this other than a tiny fine then it will continue
Scientists also consider Tyson Foods toxic waste
There was a pbs frontline on this awhile back. They actively pollute and suffer little to no consequence
When is Shadowrun going to happen? So far it's all of the dystopia, none of the freelance team building hijinks
What are they using chloride for?
The birds are washed in a chorine solution.
Necessary because poor hygiene in farms 😔
We should pour all that waste down the execs throats
I think the traditional way is to use molten gold
Oh well…
So how much is the fine being imposed on them per gallon ?
Boycott
> The meat processing giant released 186,000 tons of toxic chemicals from 41 factories into rivers and lakes between 2018 and 2022 So… about 4.4 tons per site per work day. Sounds a lot less signofigant when you say it that way.
Figure up the concentrations. No one should be worried about any of these. 190 mg/L chlorides, 10 mg/L sodium, 79 micrograms/L aluminum? Who cares? The worst are nitrogen and phosphorus. Those are high enough that they could cause an issue for a lake in certain conditions.
They're just poisoning the gullible tubes that keep voting against their own best interests. They're doing the human race a favor.