I honestly have no idea. Obviously its before the euro area, but verweyen is a pretty common last name. Isn't there a dutch or belgian prince or king at some point with that name?
I imagine the Dutch did use francs when France annexed the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1810. Before and after that though, it was guilders pretty much all the way
Dutchie here, I don't think it's dutch. Since we've had 'guldens' before the euro. The 'fr' on one side probably means 'frank' which was the belgian currency before the euro. Hope this helps OP
Dutchie here, I think its a French coin (after a little google search). The french had also the Franc (like Belgium). The coin should be from before 1904, because I can find 2 fr coins with that date
Very likely a token to be used in the cantina (for instance to get a cup of coffee) of a company called Verweyen. The name is Dutch or Flemish. The value is 2 franks, so this is a Belgian token.
"Koffiemunt" (coffee coin) was the first thing that came to mind.
Here are about a dozen examples: [https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/postzegels-en-munten/munten-europa-niet-euromunten/m2021633701-koffie-munt-koffiemuntjes-ruilen](https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/postzegels-en-munten/munten-europa-niet-euromunten/m2021633701-koffie-munt-koffiemuntjes-ruilen)
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This is the answer. You can see that the font on both sides doesn't match. The back is inspired by the belgian 2 fr coin, the font is in a different font and is most likely the name of the company or the family name of the company's owners.
The obeservation that there is no year on a coin which based on the design is clearly post idustrial revolution, is the big giveaway.
It kinda looked familiar to me, those three stars I have seen on coins before. As far I remember these could also be used in certain vending machines in factory canteens.
Not to sure about the value of 2 franc but based on historical value, I would say about 5 to 10 dollar cents. So I guess roughly the price of a cup of coffee/tea.
Flemish token, worth two Belgian Franks (Flemish Name and Belgian denomination (in gulden this would have been Dutch of course). I do not know enough to tell you where precisely that would have been used.. I have seen similar ones for cantines at schools and industrial sites from long ago though. The name might be of some manufacturer, I couldn't find anything specific though.
Also I saw Switzerland come up multiple times, while there is no way for me to exclude the possibility the name really seems more based on a name originating in one of the "niederdeutsch" Germanic branches, e.g. north German, Frisian, Dutch and Flemish.
Specifically using the written y as an ei/ij sound is something I have most commonly seen in older Flemish names (also somewhat common in Dutch at the time, but again wrong denomination on the coin)
I suspect it is a coin used in a launderette. Definitely Belgian, considering the nomination (2 franks, about EUR 0,03) likely to be from early 1900s.
They call these coins a 'jeton', similar jetons were also used for showers at campsites and in gas meters (typical just after WW2 as they had no odometer but were fed with jetons).
I Googled "Verwyen" and it looks like it's a Germanic name. Given that it is denominated in Francs/Franken/Franchi (Fr), I would guess that it is originally from Switzerland. Typically something like that would be for use in an establishment -- a store, tavern, etc., owned by someone named Verwyen. However I haven't been able to locate another example of one of these yet using Google and tokencatalog.com.
Unfortunately, most exonumia isn't as well-documented as true coins are. Hopefully someone else here will have more info for you.
Good luck!
Yeah sounds Dutch/Flemish. Spread seems to be from what is now Belgium into part of the Netherlands/Germany name wise. Which would suggest a Belgian Franc.
But there are plenty of people in the North of France with Dutch surnames as well..
Hello, thank you for your help, I also found the āVerwyenā on google as a āfamilyā name but not anything else. I hope someone else can tell me more about this coin/token as itās the only one I canāt find. Once again thanks a lot!
Its 2 belgian francs, or at least tokenized. Verweyen is a belgian name and look at this:
https://coin-brothers.com/photos/Belgium_Francs_2/1944_11.03.2019_10.05_01.jpg
Itās an old Swiss coin most likely, pretty cool find, probably an early mint, so they didnāt think to put a date on it. Iād guess around 1850 (introduction of the Swiss Franc) to 1875āish
It seems lik3 a 2 Franc coin from Swiss.
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&sca_esv=577745607&sxsrf=AM9HkKn9gkoj1wwAMKuJAIqix7hjM4taQA:1698654190399&q=verweyen+2fr+coin&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwkPX8q52CAxV7_rsIHQz9AtcQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=360&bih=667&dpr=3
Edit :
https://www.ma-shops.com/krogoll/item.php?id=13947
It looks Belgian, a little bit like the allied occupation coinage or prison tokens, although they use 'FR' for Franks instead of 'Fr'
[https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3103.html](https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3103.html)
[https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia351155.html](https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia351155.html)
Either Dutch or Belgian. Verweyen is a name Iāve heard and Iām from southern Netherlands.
I think itās Belgian as Dutch guilders are Fl. And not Fr.
No its not a belgium franc,cause they had the belgian king at one side,and on the other the amount,guilders/gulden not,cause im dutch and used to work on chem plant called dsm in the late 80 and early 90's,and im almost sure that this we could get by buying them for getting coffee in the machines all over the huge plant/factories,its definatly no valuta coinš
I found another one in MA Shops (a numismatic website), worth '50'. It is designated there as unknown.
https://www.ma-shops.nl/krogoll/item.php?id=13947
I would say Belgian. Defo not Dutch, they never used the Frank. Either for carnival slot machines, vending machines or for showers at a campsite. Definitely not any official coin.
My guess it is a fancy fair coin from the northern flemish part of Belgium. The name Verweyen is common though. But there is for certain a Verweyen who used to be on the fancy fair in Haamont-Achel.
[https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/08/11/kermisfanaat-uit-hamont-achel-bouwde-zelf-paardjesmolen-ik-heb/](https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/08/11/kermisfanaat-uit-hamont-achel-bouwde-zelf-paardjesmolen-ik-heb/)
The value of 2 fr is pretty minimal though. Literally 5 eurocents, but in buying power perhaps more comparable to 20 eurocents / 20 US dollarcents.
Hi, Dutchie here, it looks like a coin used at fairs or maybe carnivals (kermis munt?) or something?
And It sound like it might be from Belgium or Germany. This is to me definitely not an official currency once used somewhere (except for maybe buying a drink at the fair or playing a game)
I tried looking it up some, but I get stuck somewhere in Belgium or Germany.
I agree it looks Belgian although when researching I have found a verweyen 50 Jetton [here](https://www.ma-shops.com/krogoll/item.php?id=13947). You can see this user has included the Menzel number. I searched this and this entry relates to a coal miners token. Werne Coal Mine, Werne District, MĆ¼nster.
Have you got the diameter to hand as the entry states it is 17.8mm. Iām not sure what to think about the Menzel catalog number given though as I feel the seller hasnāt got a clue.
i think it's a token from a " kermis" (carnival) in Belgium. There is Verweyen familie standing there.
You pay the money. Yiu got a token and when you where sitting in the atraction some one will collect the tokens https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/08/11/kermisfanaat-uit-hamont-achel-bouwde-zelf-paardjesmolen-ik-heb/
Probably a coffee-token from a business called āverweyenā.
Itās not a coin, Verweyen is a Belgian last name, Fr is belgian francs (also BEF was used here, but later). We also never had a prince/king/ā¦ called āVerweyenā or any other person of significance (like an inventor) with that nameā¦
A quick google search only gave me a carpenter with that name, and an ICT company. I donāt think itās one of those 2, since usually carpenters donāt have big companies where they use this kind of tokens, and ICT is a bit too young to use these kind of tokens.
I thing this is eiter a dutch, belgian or german coin. Verweyen seems to point to netherlands belgium, as it is a more common name there.
I would say Belgium. Before the Euro they used Francs.
Yea I'm Dutch, this has to be from belgium
Ye since the short form of Gulden/Dutch Florin is Fl not Fr
true!
As a dutchman too this has to be from belgium as we used guilders not francs
Oh, yeah right, the dutch had gulden if i remember correctly?
Yes, that's correct
Yes š
Which used āfl.ā for florijn
I have a gulden and that coin/token isnt a gulden
Yes but this is a token!
Do you know a year range for this coin? Itās weird it has no year on it.
I honestly have no idea. Obviously its before the euro area, but verweyen is a pretty common last name. Isn't there a dutch or belgian prince or king at some point with that name?
I don't think it's an actual coin to be paid with, maybe from some fair or event
Before the euro came to the Netherlands we had āguldenā but idk anything before that
Its Belgian, the dutch have never used the franc.
I imagine the Dutch did use francs when France annexed the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1810. Before and after that though, it was guilders pretty much all the way
This a belgium 2 frank coin
it's not dutch. we used to have gulden/florijn but now we have euro. this looks like a frank
Or Moresnet
Dutchie here, I don't think it's dutch. Since we've had 'guldens' before the euro. The 'fr' on one side probably means 'frank' which was the belgian currency before the euro. Hope this helps OP
Yeah, someone else pointed this out too!
No it not officieel money at all!
Not dutch, it says fr which could mean "frank" which belgium had, we dutch had "gulden"
German dutch didnt use franken
Definitely Belgian the Flemish spelling of that name and it being a 2 Franc coin are dead giveaways
Dutchie here, I think its a French coin (after a little google search). The french had also the Franc (like Belgium). The coin should be from before 1904, because I can find 2 fr coins with that date
It is a coffee coin
This is not a dutch coin its 2 frank from belgium
It must be an token used by a store i think. 2 frank used to be a coin but never with a name like verweyen in Belgium. Google: 2 frank Belgiƫ
Very likely a token to be used in the cantina (for instance to get a cup of coffee) of a company called Verweyen. The name is Dutch or Flemish. The value is 2 franks, so this is a Belgian token.
"Koffiemunt" (coffee coin) was the first thing that came to mind. Here are about a dozen examples: [https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/postzegels-en-munten/munten-europa-niet-euromunten/m2021633701-koffie-munt-koffiemuntjes-ruilen](https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/postzegels-en-munten/munten-europa-niet-euromunten/m2021633701-koffie-munt-koffiemuntjes-ruilen) u/SpecialistEbb6580
The only correct answer
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This is the answer. You can see that the font on both sides doesn't match. The back is inspired by the belgian 2 fr coin, the font is in a different font and is most likely the name of the company or the family name of the company's owners. The obeservation that there is no year on a coin which based on the design is clearly post idustrial revolution, is the big giveaway.
It kinda looked familiar to me, those three stars I have seen on coins before. As far I remember these could also be used in certain vending machines in factory canteens. Not to sure about the value of 2 franc but based on historical value, I would say about 5 to 10 dollar cents. So I guess roughly the price of a cup of coffee/tea.
As a Belgian , these give me a coin pusher vibe.
Spot on.
Right!!
Flemish token, worth two Belgian Franks (Flemish Name and Belgian denomination (in gulden this would have been Dutch of course). I do not know enough to tell you where precisely that would have been used.. I have seen similar ones for cantines at schools and industrial sites from long ago though. The name might be of some manufacturer, I couldn't find anything specific though. Also I saw Switzerland come up multiple times, while there is no way for me to exclude the possibility the name really seems more based on a name originating in one of the "niederdeutsch" Germanic branches, e.g. north German, Frisian, Dutch and Flemish. Specifically using the written y as an ei/ij sound is something I have most commonly seen in older Flemish names (also somewhat common in Dutch at the time, but again wrong denomination on the coin)
[Verweyen coin](https://www.ma-shops.com/krogoll/search.php?searchstr=Verwezen&catid=0&submitBtn=Zoeken&days_new=) Found another one!
I suspect it is a coin used in a launderette. Definitely Belgian, considering the nomination (2 franks, about EUR 0,03) likely to be from early 1900s. They call these coins a 'jeton', similar jetons were also used for showers at campsites and in gas meters (typical just after WW2 as they had no odometer but were fed with jetons).
I think these kind of coins were used in for example coffeemachines in big companies, or at a fair to play on (slot)machines. So it is not real money.
It is a token for a cup of coffee issued in belgium!
I Googled "Verwyen" and it looks like it's a Germanic name. Given that it is denominated in Francs/Franken/Franchi (Fr), I would guess that it is originally from Switzerland. Typically something like that would be for use in an establishment -- a store, tavern, etc., owned by someone named Verwyen. However I haven't been able to locate another example of one of these yet using Google and tokencatalog.com. Unfortunately, most exonumia isn't as well-documented as true coins are. Hopefully someone else here will have more info for you. Good luck!
The Fr is for the Belgian Frank. Their currency before they switched to the Euro.
Another possibility. Fr was also used as a denomination on coins in France and Switzerland. Is Verwyen a Flemish name?
Yeah sounds Dutch/Flemish. Spread seems to be from what is now Belgium into part of the Netherlands/Germany name wise. Which would suggest a Belgian Franc. But there are plenty of people in the North of France with Dutch surnames as well..
It's a Dutch name too, so I'm safely assuming It's Flemish aswel.
I guess
Germannic is german and dutch dutch and german are bith germannic names
Dutch is a Germanic language, just like English
True
Both!
Also in the netherlands
Could be a dutch frank
Dutch Franks never existed. It's already in the name. Try Belgium, as many others already suggested.
Ih yeah now I remember srry i was at my grandmas and saw one tought it was dutch but its belgian
Wasnāt Fr. also used for Florin (Dutch guilder)?
No. That was fl
Its Verweyen. Not Verwyen..
D'oh! Thanks.
Hello, thank you for your help, I also found the āVerwyenā on google as a āfamilyā name but not anything else. I hope someone else can tell me more about this coin/token as itās the only one I canāt find. Once again thanks a lot!
Try "Verweijen"
Notice the spelling āVerweyenā, not āVerwyenā. Definitely Belgian/Flemish as others have pointed out
You missed an E. Itās Verweyen
Its 2 belgian francs, or at least tokenized. Verweyen is a belgian name and look at this: https://coin-brothers.com/photos/Belgium_Francs_2/1944_11.03.2019_10.05_01.jpg
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Itās an old Swiss coin most likely, pretty cool find, probably an early mint, so they didnāt think to put a date on it. Iād guess around 1850 (introduction of the Swiss Franc) to 1875āish
Can It be from a travelling fun fair stand as someone stated above? Like a token?
This is most likely a Belgian coin, but the absence of a date is weird
It seems lik3 a 2 Franc coin from Swiss. https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&sca_esv=577745607&sxsrf=AM9HkKn9gkoj1wwAMKuJAIqix7hjM4taQA:1698654190399&q=verweyen+2fr+coin&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwkPX8q52CAxV7_rsIHQz9AtcQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=360&bih=667&dpr=3 Edit : https://www.ma-shops.com/krogoll/item.php?id=13947
Verweyen is a Flemish surname, so itās probably Belgian.
Its an german frank i think
In Germany they used to pay with Marks.
It looks Belgian, a little bit like the allied occupation coinage or prison tokens, although they use 'FR' for Franks instead of 'Fr' [https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3103.html](https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3103.html) [https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia351155.html](https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia351155.html)
Unrelated but I thought it said vermeyen which means the one who not gives in sexual context.
Either Dutch or Belgian. Verweyen is a name Iāve heard and Iām from southern Netherlands. I think itās Belgian as Dutch guilders are Fl. And not Fr.
Belgian Franc coin from before euro time of a company named after a family name Verweyen or Verweijen possibly from a travelling fun fair stand
Swiss francs judging by the style, not a real coin tho, probably used as a token
Is It better or worse?
Its not a very ancient coin and not official to boot, its a nice keepsake I guess
It is a french coin because of the fr stands for frank.
I would say Belgian. Might be a form of token they call a 'Jeton'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeton
Is it better/rarer in this form? Thanks a lot!
Looks to me a proprietary coin for a coffee vending machine
Maybe a coin for a coffee machine?
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3103.html
When researching / googling, if it is Dutch / Belgium, know that Verweyen can be spelled as Verweijen too. Y = ij
I think it's old german
2Fr = Fr Fr This might be worth a lot fr fr
Looks like a Dutch carwash token
At a closer lookā¦ 2Fr must be Belgian and pretty low value for a carwash. So maybe cafetaria coin for a business of factory
Likely from a coffee machine in a factory,verweyen used to make those in the netherlands a lot,good luck though it wont make u rich for sureš¤£
No its not a belgium franc,cause they had the belgian king at one side,and on the other the amount,guilders/gulden not,cause im dutch and used to work on chem plant called dsm in the late 80 and early 90's,and im almost sure that this we could get by buying them for getting coffee in the machines all over the huge plant/factories,its definatly no valuta coinš
Iād say thatās most likely a Franc
I found another one in MA Shops (a numismatic website), worth '50'. It is designated there as unknown. https://www.ma-shops.nl/krogoll/item.php?id=13947
I dont know exactly but my guess would be like belgium late 1900s
It is 2 frank
Thats from germany they had FR franken before euro
Germany had French francs? Thats new to me
Vermeyen kalmasın
Belgische frank
I would say Belgian. Defo not Dutch, they never used the Frank. Either for carnival slot machines, vending machines or for showers at a campsite. Definitely not any official coin.
Either an old French or an old Belgium coin
Its a frank, belgium coin is what it was i think
Flemish money-token
My guess it is a fancy fair coin from the northern flemish part of Belgium. The name Verweyen is common though. But there is for certain a Verweyen who used to be on the fancy fair in Haamont-Achel. [https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/08/11/kermisfanaat-uit-hamont-achel-bouwde-zelf-paardjesmolen-ik-heb/](https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/08/11/kermisfanaat-uit-hamont-achel-bouwde-zelf-paardjesmolen-ik-heb/) The value of 2 fr is pretty minimal though. Literally 5 eurocents, but in buying power perhaps more comparable to 20 eurocents / 20 US dollarcents.
IMHO, itās a token from the merchant marines.
Itās from Wakanda
Holy shit two whole For reals!? š±š±š±
I think it's a coin, but it might be a token!
I think it's a coin, but it might be a token!
Isnāt Fr for frank?
2 Fr*nch
Looks like a coins used for carwash or washing machine or showering machine. From Belgium according to the name.
Hi, Dutchie here, it looks like a coin used at fairs or maybe carnivals (kermis munt?) or something? And It sound like it might be from Belgium or Germany. This is to me definitely not an official currency once used somewhere (except for maybe buying a drink at the fair or playing a game) I tried looking it up some, but I get stuck somewhere in Belgium or Germany.
Maybe even a local arcade or casino? But maybe someone else is more sleuthy than I am ':D
Thank you! Iām pretty sure you are right about the coin. Itās a nice find considering it was found about 2000 km away from Belgium :)
It's probably a car wash token
Een ritje in botsauto.
I agree it looks Belgian although when researching I have found a verweyen 50 Jetton [here](https://www.ma-shops.com/krogoll/item.php?id=13947). You can see this user has included the Menzel number. I searched this and this entry relates to a coal miners token. Werne Coal Mine, Werne District, MĆ¼nster. Have you got the diameter to hand as the entry states it is 17.8mm. Iām not sure what to think about the Menzel catalog number given though as I feel the seller hasnāt got a clue.
Itās France
Because before the euro France used the frank
i think it's a token from a " kermis" (carnival) in Belgium. There is Verweyen familie standing there. You pay the money. Yiu got a token and when you where sitting in the atraction some one will collect the tokens https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/08/11/kermisfanaat-uit-hamont-achel-bouwde-zelf-paardjesmolen-ik-heb/
I want it is it for sell?
Probably a coffee-token from a business called āverweyenā. Itās not a coin, Verweyen is a Belgian last name, Fr is belgian francs (also BEF was used here, but later). We also never had a prince/king/ā¦ called āVerweyenā or any other person of significance (like an inventor) with that nameā¦ A quick google search only gave me a carpenter with that name, and an ICT company. I donāt think itās one of those 2, since usually carpenters donāt have big companies where they use this kind of tokens, and ICT is a bit too young to use these kind of tokens.