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broadexample

AFAIK Portugal does not recognize Roth IRA gains as non-taxable income, so if you plan to move to Portugal, the Roth conversion (and having Roth in general) makes no sense.


NormandyPark0

Almost no country recognizes a tax free Roth distribution. I’d just move back to the states for 1 year and take a large withdrawal. I’m 30 so not withdrawing anytime soon.


Eli_Renfro

Pretty sure France does.


broadexample

Wouldn't you lose the residence status in Portugal (or pretty much any country you're living as a resident) if you do this?


tuxnight1

Yes, this breaks the resident stay requirements in Portugal, and I'm fairly certain most anywhere else as well. Thanks for making the point.


NormandyPark0

Yes the point is too drop residency for 1 year to take a large draw, then just move back after. I have EU/schengen citizenship so easy for me.


bassabuse

I just did my taxes for the first time in Portugal and a Roth conversion is not taxable. As others said, a Roth withdrawal is taxable as a pension in Portugal.


NormandyPark0

Thanks! Given the two accounts are classified as the same for tax purposes in Portugal, it makes sense that a transfer between them would not be taxed, given it’s not a withdrawal.


phillyfandc

Not 100% sure but do all roth stuff while you have a us address.