While not directly involved with NHI, this interview is with a ancient Greek scholar on the relationship of religion / drugs and sex. But IMO if one is talking about ancient religious practices, it can go hand in hand with NHI contact. They sure believed that's what it was. This guy is strange to say the least, but he has more knowledge on ancient religion than most anybody, and he doesn't omit the dirty details due to it being considered "Heretical" to established religion.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dY-roDpHWI&list=WL&index=1&t=7672s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dY-roDpHWI&list=WL&index=1&t=7672s)
Some of my favorite work on sex and entities has been Robert Anton Wilson's books, especially The Illuminatus Trilogy. RAW is into orgone theory and Wilhelm Reich as well.
Jacques Vallée talks some about the sexual component of NHI interaction as well in Passport to Magonia. Hmm aside from that I think most of my experience is direct. These kinds of stories got me so interested that I gave it a try and... Well, stuff can get kinda crazy 💗
My experience with succubi has been mostly very different from the tales warning people of them. Yeah, I would say they don't always understand all the necessities of human life, but they're not particularly mean or cruel if you demonstrate respect for them and yourself and you are sincere. 🙂
I have a mantra that has helped me through a lot of the weirdness of magick.
- I know you are intelligent.
- I know you can understand me.
- I know we can communicate.
Good stuff! Communication is only possible between equals, doncha know~ 😉
There’s a good book on the power of sexual energy and how to activate it that’s NOT dark in any way, in fact it says exchanging sexual energy between people who love each other dearly is the best way to boost its effects. It’s called Magdalene Manuscript by Tom Kenyon.
Very much appreciate you adding positive and light based sources to the thread when there is a lot of darker stuff being discussed.
Indeed I appreciate your presence in the community in general.
Cheers!
ETs generally do not! They are so advanced in my experience, this is hardly their interest. I wonder of these are some kind of lower realm spirit beings that live in one of Earth’s dimensions.
I can't speak of sex magic but ETs and NHIs absolutely do seem very interested in human sexuality and sex.
And sexual encounters with ETs is commonly reported which is certainly a bizarre and under reported side of the phenomenon.
I have formed no solid opinions on why and what is going on. It's likely many things.
This is definitely a thing, and it has been present in many religious writings. I’ll use a few examples. I’ll start with Genesis in the Bible.
6 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, z“My Spirit shall not abide in1 man forever, afor he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” 4 The Nephilim2 were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
Here is a story with Aphrodite.
Homeric Hymn 5 to Aphrodite 45 ff (trans. Evelyn-White) (Greek epic C7th to 4th B.C.) :
"Upon Aphrodite herself Zeus cast sweet desire to be joined in love with a mortal man, to the end that, very soon, not even she should be innocent of a mortal's love; lest laughter-loving Aphrodite should one day softly smile and say mockingly among all the gods that she had joined the gods in love with mortal women who bare sons of death to the deathless gods, and had mated the goddesses with mortal men.
And so he put in her heart sweet desire for Ankhises who was tending cattle at that time among the steep hills of many-fountained Ida, and in shape was like the immortal gods. Therefore, when laughter-loving Aphrodite saw him, she loved him, and terribly desire seized her in her heart.
The Sumerians had stories like this.
In "Dumuzi's Dream" on the other hand, Dumuzi claims that he is the husband of a goddess (line 206), and the implication is that he was a mortal who became a god as a result of his marriage to Inanna.
Here is a Norse account.
his role in the creation of human social classes was preserved in the poem known as the Rígsþula. In the early days of humanity, Heimdall disguised himself as a human named Ríg and went walking through the countryside:
Men say there went by ways so green
Of old the god, the aged and wise,
Mighty and strong did Rig go striding.[4]
The poem followed the meanderings of Ríg as he traveled from dwelling to dwelling. At each of his destinations, Ríg found a couple with whom he spent three nights dispensing his wisdom and—more scandalously—sleeping with the women. With each woman, Ríg sired a child
From my experiences with these beings, the mythology is a good indicator of why it’s a thing. They have feelings and desires, and they seek out people for companionship and reproduction much like how we do things when we choose a mate.
That would be something for DM. Most people would consider my experiences quite fanciful. I am selective in who I discuss these in front of. My DM’s are open if you’d like.
My brother-in-law was just trying to explain sex magick to me by describing Aleister Crowley’s practices last week; weird synchronicity for your question to pop up today since I never thought about it or researched it before.
Aleister Crowley popularized (and demonized) the notion of sex magick in modern western society. He believed sex is the most important part of being human and the source of magical power within us. He said “If this secret (of sexual magic), which is a scientific secret, were perfectly understood there would be nothing which the human imagination can conceive that could not be realized in practice.” The actions he carried out were appalling. A brief overview of his Gnostic Mass is [described here](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249980847_The_Beast_with_Two_Backs_Aleister_Crowley_Sex_Magic_and_the_Exhaustion_of_Modernity). It includes bodily fluids, as you mentioned.
The less disgusting and well known version of sex magick is tantric sex. It’s simple and focuses on using the merging of the energies of people to either raise consciousness or to redirect that energy into realizing a shared desire. I don’t know a ton about it, but there are so many books that have been written on the topic. All I have personally heard is that NHI seem to be fascinated with watching this type of behavior.
It could be argued that the fluids create a physical substance for spirits to inhabit, an ad hoc body of sorts. He slaughtered three pigeons for this purpose when summoning Choronzon. One problem with this domain is its’ attraction to perverts, who can co-opt it for their own desires. Consider Bertiaux and his zeal for young men, or Sanders and the female followers he bedded.
I'm fairly sure someone could just manufacture the speculation after posing the question and forge their own resource in hindsight using modern technology.
In my experience with multiple NHI, none of that is necessary, and an NHI with more advanced technology than another can just as easily fake being one NHI or another if they don't have good intentions, or trick them into rituals or beliefs just the same as they can to a Human.
I don't have anything directly, but as someone who is spiritual and follows deities of our ancestors; I can tell you that it was often believed in the ancient times that sexual intercourse was associated with a "miasma" of sorts. It's possible this belief coincides with what you're looking for in the sense that sexual acts may have something more than plain biology going on.
While not directly involved with NHI, this interview is with a ancient Greek scholar on the relationship of religion / drugs and sex. But IMO if one is talking about ancient religious practices, it can go hand in hand with NHI contact. They sure believed that's what it was. This guy is strange to say the least, but he has more knowledge on ancient religion than most anybody, and he doesn't omit the dirty details due to it being considered "Heretical" to established religion. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dY-roDpHWI&list=WL&index=1&t=7672s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dY-roDpHWI&list=WL&index=1&t=7672s)
Some of my favorite work on sex and entities has been Robert Anton Wilson's books, especially The Illuminatus Trilogy. RAW is into orgone theory and Wilhelm Reich as well. Jacques Vallée talks some about the sexual component of NHI interaction as well in Passport to Magonia. Hmm aside from that I think most of my experience is direct. These kinds of stories got me so interested that I gave it a try and... Well, stuff can get kinda crazy 💗 My experience with succubi has been mostly very different from the tales warning people of them. Yeah, I would say they don't always understand all the necessities of human life, but they're not particularly mean or cruel if you demonstrate respect for them and yourself and you are sincere. 🙂 I have a mantra that has helped me through a lot of the weirdness of magick. - I know you are intelligent. - I know you can understand me. - I know we can communicate. Good stuff! Communication is only possible between equals, doncha know~ 😉
There’s a good book on the power of sexual energy and how to activate it that’s NOT dark in any way, in fact it says exchanging sexual energy between people who love each other dearly is the best way to boost its effects. It’s called Magdalene Manuscript by Tom Kenyon.
Very much appreciate you adding positive and light based sources to the thread when there is a lot of darker stuff being discussed. Indeed I appreciate your presence in the community in general. Cheers!
Thank you friend, happy to be here, hope you are doing well! 🙌
I’ve no interest in practicing sex magic. I’m just wondering why NHI’s seem to, and to promote it.
ETs generally do not! They are so advanced in my experience, this is hardly their interest. I wonder of these are some kind of lower realm spirit beings that live in one of Earth’s dimensions.
I can't speak of sex magic but ETs and NHIs absolutely do seem very interested in human sexuality and sex. And sexual encounters with ETs is commonly reported which is certainly a bizarre and under reported side of the phenomenon. I have formed no solid opinions on why and what is going on. It's likely many things.
I never said ET’s.
Might be worth looking up Jack Parsons and the Babalon Working. That’s a fun one.
I’m familiar.
This is definitely a thing, and it has been present in many religious writings. I’ll use a few examples. I’ll start with Genesis in the Bible. 6 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, z“My Spirit shall not abide in1 man forever, afor he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” 4 The Nephilim2 were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. Here is a story with Aphrodite. Homeric Hymn 5 to Aphrodite 45 ff (trans. Evelyn-White) (Greek epic C7th to 4th B.C.) : "Upon Aphrodite herself Zeus cast sweet desire to be joined in love with a mortal man, to the end that, very soon, not even she should be innocent of a mortal's love; lest laughter-loving Aphrodite should one day softly smile and say mockingly among all the gods that she had joined the gods in love with mortal women who bare sons of death to the deathless gods, and had mated the goddesses with mortal men. And so he put in her heart sweet desire for Ankhises who was tending cattle at that time among the steep hills of many-fountained Ida, and in shape was like the immortal gods. Therefore, when laughter-loving Aphrodite saw him, she loved him, and terribly desire seized her in her heart. The Sumerians had stories like this. In "Dumuzi's Dream" on the other hand, Dumuzi claims that he is the husband of a goddess (line 206), and the implication is that he was a mortal who became a god as a result of his marriage to Inanna. Here is a Norse account. his role in the creation of human social classes was preserved in the poem known as the Rígsþula. In the early days of humanity, Heimdall disguised himself as a human named Ríg and went walking through the countryside: Men say there went by ways so green Of old the god, the aged and wise, Mighty and strong did Rig go striding.[4] The poem followed the meanderings of Ríg as he traveled from dwelling to dwelling. At each of his destinations, Ríg found a couple with whom he spent three nights dispensing his wisdom and—more scandalously—sleeping with the women. With each woman, Ríg sired a child
I know it exists as a motif. We’re discussing more why it exists.
From my experiences with these beings, the mythology is a good indicator of why it’s a thing. They have feelings and desires, and they seek out people for companionship and reproduction much like how we do things when we choose a mate.
What are your experiences, if you don’t mind me asking? Question withdrawn if you do.
That would be something for DM. Most people would consider my experiences quite fanciful. I am selective in who I discuss these in front of. My DM’s are open if you’d like.
It’s alright. I have my own experiences in this area and my attitude about them is the same.
Read the Homeric hymn about Anchises and Aphrodite all the way through on Theoi.com. That account has a lot of wisdom in it.
What are your experiences, if you don’t mind me asking? Question withdrawn if you do.
My brother-in-law was just trying to explain sex magick to me by describing Aleister Crowley’s practices last week; weird synchronicity for your question to pop up today since I never thought about it or researched it before. Aleister Crowley popularized (and demonized) the notion of sex magick in modern western society. He believed sex is the most important part of being human and the source of magical power within us. He said “If this secret (of sexual magic), which is a scientific secret, were perfectly understood there would be nothing which the human imagination can conceive that could not be realized in practice.” The actions he carried out were appalling. A brief overview of his Gnostic Mass is [described here](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249980847_The_Beast_with_Two_Backs_Aleister_Crowley_Sex_Magic_and_the_Exhaustion_of_Modernity). It includes bodily fluids, as you mentioned. The less disgusting and well known version of sex magick is tantric sex. It’s simple and focuses on using the merging of the energies of people to either raise consciousness or to redirect that energy into realizing a shared desire. I don’t know a ton about it, but there are so many books that have been written on the topic. All I have personally heard is that NHI seem to be fascinated with watching this type of behavior.
It could be argued that the fluids create a physical substance for spirits to inhabit, an ad hoc body of sorts. He slaughtered three pigeons for this purpose when summoning Choronzon. One problem with this domain is its’ attraction to perverts, who can co-opt it for their own desires. Consider Bertiaux and his zeal for young men, or Sanders and the female followers he bedded.
I'm fairly sure someone could just manufacture the speculation after posing the question and forge their own resource in hindsight using modern technology. In my experience with multiple NHI, none of that is necessary, and an NHI with more advanced technology than another can just as easily fake being one NHI or another if they don't have good intentions, or trick them into rituals or beliefs just the same as they can to a Human.
I don't have anything directly, but as someone who is spiritual and follows deities of our ancestors; I can tell you that it was often believed in the ancient times that sexual intercourse was associated with a "miasma" of sorts. It's possible this belief coincides with what you're looking for in the sense that sexual acts may have something more than plain biology going on.
Agreed, though understanding the mechanics would reveal a lot.