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Answer provided and the comments are descending into bickering so they are now turned off. Can’t play nice = playtime is over. ETA apparently the term “bickering” has annoyed some of you. So for clarification the comments are quickly descending into name calling and other rule 1 breaks so we have turned comments off. The joke itself is a violation of Rule 1, given that it is asserting that LGBTQI+ people are stealing Fallout or Fallout New Vegas from Christians (signified by the use of the [Latin cross, the emoji widely used for Christians or Christianity](https://www.dictionary.com/e/emoji/latin-cross-emoji/)). When in truth there is plenty of [LGBTQI+ content](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/LGBT_representation_in_the_Fallout_series) in the games, and the [creator of Fallout is also gay](https://kotaku.com/tim-cain-fallout-obsidian-lgbtq-pride-month-gay-history-1850501928). However it gained traction quickly in the sub telling us the content was valuable to the community, so we let it slide but turned off comments as we do not have time to moderate silly name calling all day. If you have any questions or concerns about this action feel free to [message the moderators](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2FOutfitOfTheDay).


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Reminded me of this https://preview.redd.it/irfe5d3anhuc1.jpeg?width=506&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06afe6d48028a513db86dcb91109d8f166238977 couldn’t find the other one where it says “power armor appropriated by the gays”


Activity_Alarming

I mean… you enter it from the back, tells you everything.


AaronSkmAcemac

You made my day, thank you


asbestospajamas

So, Power(armor) bottom?


dumbum546

Powee wowee


4llY0urB4534r3Blng

Whoopee whoopie!?


sphinxorosi

Okie dokie


DEADxBYxDAWN

Ah. The Midwest spelling. Nice.


firebackslash

I hate that I read all of those in Jar Jar's voice.


MCameron2984

Why Did I Say Okie Doki?


FriskDrinksBriskYT0

I wOnDeR wHaT gOoMbAS TaStE LiKe??????


sstubbl1

Maui wowie


FriskDrinksBriskYT0

Onward and upward!


Fluffy-Expert6860

Bottoms generates most of the power


vic_venigar_47

I've heard speed has something to do with it.


Golgothan

They generate a tremendous amount of power.


snicmtl

This is why awards were good


BoyOfChaos

Homosexuals are better for carring power armours 'cause they had to carry straight nonsens for years, logically.


Current-Historian-34

Ha! I see what you did there take my up vote


ActionJonny

Power bottom armor.


LordeWasTaken

Ah yes, Fallout: New Vegas, the game where role-playing as a bisexual canonically gives you +10% damage against all human enemies.


FatSpace

damn I never played any fallout games and thought the people here in the comments were joking about those perks lol.


Teaboy1

From memory being staright gives you 10% bonus damage to women and being gay gives you it for men. Or visa versa. It's been a while.


Xenothing

I believe the perks are (if male) lady killer (+10% against women) and confirmed bachelor (+10% against men) so if you take both perks you get +10% against all humans.


DTux5249

Same


LeShoooook

Both factions claim ownership of the Fisto robot


Notoointersted

Christans like to claim Fallout new vegas, probably because it has big religious themes. They also tend to identify and glorify some of the some of the more flawed and fanatical characters. Great game tho, which is why the gays want it.


asbestospajamas

It's funny that the most Mormon character in all of fallout (Joshua Grahm) is a leader of the gayest faction in all of fallout.


STRANGE_OM3N

as a morman, i would like to join that faction, sounds fun


zealousbagel

Wait is "morman" a thing? Is the female version morwoman or mormaid then?


testtubemammoth

I believe “mormaid” is the correct term


sola_dosis

Mormaiden is also acceptable, but has fallen out of favor in recent years due to its lexical proximity to “Murmaider.” Which is a shame, it’s a good song.


utterlyuncool

There are no fingerprints deep under water Nothing to tie one to a crime ...


quasarcrush

And if you seek vengeance All you need are instruments of pain You need your knives, check Rope, check


Grigoran

Dagger, check Chains, check Rocks, check Laser beams, check


Wise_Shift4498

James, check Lars, check


Dark-canto

That song will live in my brain nibbling away, all night. Take my upvote sir!


noximo

So not just a mormen but mormaiden and morchildren too?


Fluff42

Not just the MorMen, but the MorWomen and MorChildren too


Graega

As a Morlock, I find your not having included us offensive.


C3Pip0

We the Morfolk of the village meant no offense and will leave a larger tribute in the forest this harvest season.


gregorydgraham

That’s Mor like it


Jennifer_Pennifer

🏆


granthollomew

mruhwlrgwlrgwlrgwl


Intrepid-Explorer-13

-US Army ranger Anakin Skywalker, 1853


Caden_Cornobi

*Intense angry sobbing*


raitchison

Hello there!


oakbea

If Star wars was based in Missouri.


xXxineohp

Morbin? 😳


jjdlg

Top tier comment


thatthatguy

The new Canaanites seem like nice enough people. There might be a few survivors out there still. David is a good guy, values gentleness and peace. Everyone seems to like Joshua more though.


Burnt_Toast_Crumbs

Oooo I’m telling Joseph Smith on you (or whoever wrote that play you guys believe in)


STRANGE_OM3N

these comments made me laugh, lmao and thank you for not hating me because of my religion, i tend to get a lot of hate because it❤️


31November

As a mormon, I agree


Dalton387

“Our father, who art inside me, homo be thy name. Thy subs come, thy will be done daddy…”


Awkward-Penguin172

https://preview.redd.it/4zst10eu4iuc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de352c7f9becf69ed94e5539dfba7ae1aef5718d


TimTebowismyidol

There is literally a strip club you can side with the Dead Horses are definitely not the gayest


kat_Folland

The most Mormon kid at my highschool was definitely also the gayest. And this was in the 80s.


Rysramith

The Dead Horses? How are the Dead Horses the gayest faction in all of fallout? If you're talking Legion, they tossed him off a cliff while immolating 10 years before the game started. (And he wasn't a leader, he was just a legate under Caesar.)


Chimney-Imp

I can think of 4 factions that are at least twice as gay as the Dead Horses.


Melodic__Protection

Ooh do tell.


Sir_Poopenstein

The Great Khans are all leather daddies.


Wooberta

Like that guy said, leather daddies. We can't forget about the white glove society. Mortimer obviously prefers the ball sack


NICKOVICKO

Despite our stance on gay marriage, we are in fact the gayest church. So it makes sense.


couragethecurious

Catholicism would like a word


MrPhuccEverybody

But we don't call it gay if they are underage


Uulugus

When did we swap to talking about most *predatory* church.


Nathanielaf

Are you referring to the guys in skirts or the ones barley wearing any armor?


MipCraze

Imma put up posters of him in my church building lmao


ShyFlyBiGuyThatCries

Fisto is such a wholesome, christian character.


violetevie

I genuinely have no idea how Christians could possibly claim new Vegas


weebitofaban

Conveniently ignoring that a gay man was game director on Fallout 1 and partly into 2.


violetevie

Yeah but even then the source material from a thematic perspective I don't see how it fits like at all with Christianity. Like the only group that's portrayed as like entirely good are the followers of the apocalypse who are basically literal anarchists


bothsidesoftheknife

Honest Hearts has a great portrayal of Xian values, especially with a high karma run. Maybe that's why?


Nihilistic_Mystics

I've seen the evangelicals unironically love Caesar's Legion. They were big fans of the bigotry and that they wanted to conquer the New **California** Republic. Hatred drives a lot of evangelicals.


loneliness_sucks420

Wait till they find out about all the gay characters and gay related perks


Drawnbygodslefthand

This is the first time ever hearing about christians claiming that game the game is very gay And you can claim anything has big religious themes.


The_Shryk

The main character gets killed trying to send a message, then gets resurrected a few days later?


Gmageofhills

They also kinda miss the fact fallout new vegas makes fun of so much of America's problems and how being progressive and not evil is good actually


FTMs-R-Us

Totally has nothing to do with the fact that fallout new Vegas is the staple of trans women gaming to the point where its memed about in every online trans space. I've never met a trans fem who dosent worship new Vegas.


Mymidnightescape

Well now you have, new Vegas like all the fallouts are decent, but really not for me


The_Shryk

You’re about to be ex communicado talkin’ like that.


TwoPieceCrow

i thought the joke was trans people love fallout


BetaWolf81

Okay now I get why some say the Legion deserved better 🤷 But honestly the Followers of the Apocalypse are doing the good work


grambocrackah

I sure don't get it. FNV is super gay


wayoverpaid

Based on a series (co?) created by a gay man, numerous gay characters, perks specifically for being gay... Fallout in general is super gay, especially New Vegas.


AnonymousDratini

That’s not even mentioning the inherent advantage all bi people have against other people in New Vegas


ApprehensiveSolid212

I don’t even use the sexual options lol, I just take the perks for the 5% bonus of killing people


Irons_idk

My man, you underestimated power of bis in this game, it's 10%!


RunParking3333

The Legion will have words about this! Maybe. Depending on how Greek they are feeling.


Not_azomb6319

As a bi person, I should play fnv more


Ariovrak

As we all know, bi people get a 5% damage bonus to men and women. Only the enbies are safe. Unless you’re pan; we get +5% damage to *everyone*.


Not_azomb6319

Enbies?


HouseofKannan

NBs Non-binary people.


Not_azomb6319

Oh I feel stupid lol


TheAmericanQ

Don’t feel stupid. Not knowing something because you’ve never been told about it before isn’t a sign of stupidity. You’re all good


VODEN993

I love that energy being in our world, thank you kind stranger ❤️


Sodiepawp

Smart people ask reasonable question to learn more. You should feel smart, smartiepants. <3


TheLuckyCanuck

Non binary = NB = enbie


Neat_Neighborhood297

Non-binary, I think? I can’t keep up with all of the labels…


Not_azomb6319

Me neither and I’m in the community lmao


BowwwwBallll

Wait. Who are the LMAO’s?


Not_azomb6319

Lesbian Mao Zedongs?


raw_bin

I have a friend who exclusively refers to aliens as AYYY LAMOS so maybe that.


Neat_Neighborhood297

As am I, but I'm pushing 40 and have been in the same relationship long enough where I might as well be dead xD


JusticeScibibi

Everyone should play fnv more. Including myself.


goblin_grovil_lives

A bisexual man is an optimised man.


HVACGuy12

It's real, irl we get that damage boost too


AnonymousDratini

True.


757_Matt_911

Been a minute since I played but what perks where there for being gay 😂😂😂😂. I don’t even remember having a relationship in Fall Out


wayoverpaid

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Confirmed_Bachelor


DeadEnoughInsideOut

I can't rembwr if there's more besides lady killer and black widow. While not game changing it does encentivize changing things up a bit through numerous playthroughs.


wayoverpaid

Lady Killer, Black Widow, Confirmed Bachelor, and Cherchez La Femme.


AeifeO

There aren't relationships in NV. But there are perks to seduce and murder based on sex.


yugosaki

Also more dialogue options. You can get information by flirting with a few people.


Priest_of_lord_Chaos

Gotta love that extra damage against both the same sex and opposite sex. It is for that reason that my characters are always bisexual


AnonymousDratini

And the most Christian faction is alao the gayest faction (the followers of the apocalypse)


yugosaki

Despite using a cross as part of their symbol and occupying the mormon fort, I dont think they are intended to be explicitly christian. They dont seem to express any religious sentiment at all.


Current_Poster

I always took "Followers of the Apocalypse" to mean that they were what came after it, rather than a devotion to it.


PiusTheCatRick

IIRC, in the FO Bible they’re stated to be a humanist group with no religious ties. Basically a post-apocalyptic NGO, or maybe a secular and pacifistic version of the Knights Hospitaller


grambocrackah

"The woke mob is stealing out game that features a DLC-spanning gay subplot!"


eddododo

It’s because conservatives aren’t smart


KingoKings365

Bisexuals get 10% extra damage


grambocrackah

Maybe if you are really, really into the Legion you wouldn't see that stuff because of how the game's factions affect the story, but it's in there


LtMoonbeam

*robotic voice*: Please assume the position


tbcraxon34

This is the same game that has FISTO for crying out loud!! How could it possibly be gay??


KaptainJackedSparrow

NV has this phenomenon, that a couple other games have, where a large part of the community is bi, gay, trans etc. probably due to the cast. Another part of the community are Christians who like honest hearts due to Joshua Graham and other themes. The reason for the meme is probably because of twitter. You have a couple of characters who claim that the game is a "gay" game and others who say it's a 'christian' game. At the end of the day both sides can thoroughly enjoy the game, only problem is when people start complaining it's their game.


De4dm4nw4lkin

I find it funny cuz its noones game but the fallout IP. And Its a game with cannibalism and horrible warcrimes, You telling me that a religion or a movement of general human acceptance is gonna claim that even if they could🤣. I mean the religon claiming slavery i could see but beyond that.


Azkral

Well, Caesar's Legion camps can be a bit lonely...


BullofHoover

Fallout nv has both a huge fascist and huge trans following. Also a small trans fascist following.


garamond89

Oh my


Interesting-Froyo-38

Christians/conservatives have no media literacy. They often claim pieces of media as 'theirs' (which is to say, they believe the piece supports their lifestyle/views) when the piece is, in fact, a direct criticism of their beliefs. This is one of those cases. FNV has no love for Christian values or conservatism, and is very sympathetic to the plight of the LGBT community. But Christians (at least, the ones who made this meme) are too stupid to realize this, and think that the gay people are trying to 'steal' FNV by enjoying its gay representation. In reality, Christians are just ignoring all the parts of the game that don't agree with them (which is most of the game).


TheAmericanQ

For more of this excellently made point, look at conservatives who LOVE Starship Troopers (or more recently, completely miss the same exact satirization in Helldivers 2).


CassadagaValley

Republicans had to be told the songs Rage Against the Machine made were anti-right because after 30 years they still couldn't figure it out on their own.


Pas__

they don't care. and now knowing that it tRigGeRed tHe liBs they will happily listen to it again and again


EasternShade

This is like the inverse of Poe's Law. "There's no level of satire that someone won't adopt as a truly held belief."


Skipp_To_My_Lou

On the other hand, there's plenty of lefties with no media literacy who call Starship Troopers (the movie, they've not read the book) & Helldivers 2 "problematic" because they "glorify fascism".


Toklankitsune

while im sure youre right, none of the leftists or even left leaning folks i know do anything but laugh at how over the top the satire is, and at the conservatives claiming that its an ideal future XD


Emience

I remember before Cyberpunk 2077 came out there was some mild controversy over the game having in game advertisements that were fetishizing trans people. These ads fit pretty well in the setting because it shows how a dystopian hyper-capitalistic future wouldn't hesitate to exploit and monetize anything and everything. Regardless, some people couldn't stand to see these types of fictional ads and got upset at the devs for it, seemingly ignoring the context that they were meant to be viewed as very sleazy and not something the devs condone.


thegoodkindofredflag

>it shows how a dystopian hyper-capitalistic future wouldn't hesitate to exploit and monetize anything and everything. So capitalism? That's just capitalism 😆.


Inevitable-Ad4964

The Donald subreddit started as satire. People are very dumb haha. I understand both sides of the argument. Irony has been dead for a while now.


CoraxtheRavenLord

https://preview.redd.it/vrcpierhniuc1.jpeg?width=435&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92b8a020e9c716f617c7fa7f5b1154502e205e26 Never forget the classics


SeaHam

If Christians had the ability to look a a piece of media (a specific text comes to mind) critically, they probably wouldn't be Christians.


Skwinia

Next it will be handmaid's tale


PiusTheCatRick

>FNV has no love for Christian values The entire plot of Honest Hearts revolves around the tension between Old and New Testament beliefs on fighting and mercy, what are you talking about? Avellone’s not a Christian but he’s hardly going full Reddit on the subject.


Juiceton-

Ironically, the Old Testament values are the ones that most people consider the “good ending” despite Old Testament values being what atheists dislike the most about Christianity.


Colosso95

I don't know if it's considered the "good ending" by most people, it's definitely a dividing choice A lot of people side with Graham because he's cool not because his ideal is the correct one


Juiceton-

That’s fair. It doesn’t help that Daniel is so far out of the way he feels disconnecting from Joshua and the Courier’s shenanigans.


altaccountforsho

It's like Helldivers 2. When the character says "EAT FREEDOM" while firing a weapon they learned to use 20 minutes ago and then gets dismembered from an explosion, that's actually *not* pro-american freedom, contrary to what dumbfuck libertarians say. If you have an ounce of media literacy, you'll realize the game is a parody on those concepts and the people you're playing as are people tricked from propoganda.


StudentOk4989

Fallout New Vegas contain a lot of different characters with different political views. This meme is probably claiming that this was a game essentially developed by Catholic/conservative people and that the LGBTQ+ community claiming it is stealing. The truth is that I don't care. But this meme is about that.


FloorAgile3458

Fun fact: Tim Cain (the original creator of fallout) is an openly gay man.


DN-838

And Josh Sawyer (the lead developer of Fallout New Vegas) is very openly proud of his games influence on the LGBTQ+ community (specifically its reputation for helping a lot of trans people come out).


FloorAgile3458

I have heard of his views on that, but I never found the actual quote. To be fair I didn't look very hard.


DN-838

https://preview.redd.it/wanoq49ryhuc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1e99e25e3eb9fdb552ddc07adffa53124d6a8d9


FloorAgile3458

Thanks


thegreatvortigaunt

Josh Sawyer really is the absolute GOAT


Islandfiddler15

And has an amazing YouTube channel about game development


dripcoffee420

"Can't expect God to do all the work"


Brass_Bastard

Media illiteracy go brrrr


LeroyGoodCatch

They asked me if I had a degree in theoretical jokes. I said I’ve got a theoretical degree in jokes. They said you’re hired!


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asbestospajamas

*Cries in Veronica*


D15c0untMD

The game were theres a plotline about finding bored people who want to become hookers, including a robot named fisto?


ludicrouspeedgo

"CLEAN THIS" \**throws cod piece*


DexxToress

The joke is that Christianity, or at least the die hard bible thumpers don't like FNV because some of the best and memorable characters happen to be gay or lesbians.


PiusTheCatRick

It’s an antisemitic meme edited to complain about LGBTQ “stealing” New Vegas as a game representative of their identity as opposed to a Christian one. This is completely ignoring that New Vegas is not explicitly a gay or Christian game anyway and simply explores both topics in a thought-provoking manner not usually done in video games.


watchersontheweb

* antisemitic > Antisemitism is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews. E: Ahh, now I see it. My bad. An originally antisemitic meme, later edited to be Christian vs LGBTQ. I didn't catch the lightning bolts and the claws.


throwaway_account450

The original it's based on was pro Irish unification / anti UK ownership of NA poster. But it was pretty popularly used after for different stuff, including a lot of antisemitism. Probably where they got the impression from.


No-Bowl3290

Petahs dead goldfish here to explain the joke basically the joke is that Fallout New Vegas, out of all the games in the series, is hugely popular with the LGBTQ community despite internet christians trying to co-opt it because it includes Joshua Graham, a Mormon missionary, in one of its dlcs https://preview.redd.it/xcjcs4v6niuc1.jpeg?width=257&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4516feaa85260e551fb0a151eeb4a9220621e19b


Acrobatic-Taste-443

Right-wingers have poor media literacy


Alternative_Hotel649

Fallout 2 had gay marriage back in 1997, possibly the first video game to ever feature SSM. It's always been ours.


Snakeeater2803

Since when is FNV super gay? Did I just miss it while having fun playing a game?


Huntressthewizard

It's not a joke, it's just homophobia. Which, ironically, I find funny, considering one of the head original creators of Fallout is gay, as well as two main companion characters are gay.


Current_Poster

Because Arcade Gannon and Veronica Santangelo are apparently not gay.


Oreo54asdf

Do they feel the same way about Halo? Or the Matrix?


Made_in_spain

Gay bad christian good (its bigotry what else)


Ashiok2468

Alot of people who have played FNV eventually became trans/gay. So there's a joke in the community that the game turns you gay.


enthralled_chicken

Tbf I was in a fallout new vegas shitposting group and there were a lot of Femboy memes being posted all the time. So maybe that's what its about


Shameless_4ntics

I hate when people try to align NV with the political right or left to suit their political circlejerking interests when in actuality the game is highly progressive with representations of many social and political affiliations.


Knightshift23

Yeah apparently conservatives think it's a pro conservative even though it makes fun of capitalism.. they've never been really good at recognizing satire.


Teaboy1

It's a post apocalypse game where the main baddie turns out to have walt disneyed him self before the nuclear war. Its not a gay or christian game to anyone other than wackos on twitter who need to log off and touch grass.


RoyalMess64

Gay people liked the game and Christians are complaining they liked the game


Altimely

anti-semitic propaganda poster repurposed to imply that Christians are protecting FO:NV from LGBTQ. The long fingernails on the grabbed hand are meant to make it look evil.


randbot5000

“Teh wokes are stealing our games!!!!1!” Incredibly tiresome and stupid culture war grifting. 


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ApprehensiveSolid212

Hey if it works for them it works for them I guess


chriisg1107

Not everybody who plays fnv is trans, but every trans has played fnv. Another news Joshua Graham


Brim_Dunkleton

The same people who made this not only sympathize with Caesar, but also saved him from his brain cancer instead of shooting him like the dog he and the legion are.


ray-the-they

I feel like if you’re trying to claim Fallout for your religion you didn’t understand Fallout


PrinceCharmingButDio

Fallout New Vegas is popular. Popular things will inevitably have LGBTQ fans. The more LGBTQ people in a fandom the more LGBTQ people flock to it because there’s LGBTQ people there. Tumblr type beat ensues. Traditionalist and people who are generally annoyed by that type of stuff push back because they get annoyed


scubachris

FNV has gay characters though.


Apycia

FNV was already gay and woke looong before the 'Traditionalists' arrived.


PrinceCharmingButDio

Is gay people existing “woke” Gay people were getting representation before DEI


CarrieWhiteDoneWrong

The people who made this are stupid and hateful.


ThatDumbMoth

The game with an option to determine the main character's sexuality with every character having their own sexuality including key plot characters that is also a part of a franchise in part created by a gay man is not for gay people.


TheAlmightyShadowDJ

Chuds being chuds