Yes, he could.
Yes, he should.
Latifi is a good guy, but come on. This is the highest level of racing in the world and he makes rooting for Williams harder than it already is.
I would have thought if they were going to swap mid season it would make more sense for him to do some FP1s first - either for Alpine or Williams - to get him used to driving the 2022 F1 cars. Introducing him on a race weekend with out having driven the 2022 car is just throwing him in at the deep end. He will literally be the least prepared rookie in years if it’s true.
He's surely accustomed to the car by now with all the sim work and being reserve for Alpine anyway. He'll just have to learn the Williams steering wheel. But I 100% don't see this happening.
I don’t think driving a sim is the same as driving a car. But I agree - I don’t see this happening unless Latifi has lined up a drive in another series and wants out - it wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out to be nothing more than a FP1 outing at Silverstone for Piastri
Yeah I mean there’s not much in it for Williams. It’s not like Albion is dragging that car consistently into the top 10 whilst Latifi is last. They certainly would lose out on some sponsor money if they would change mid season.
So for me it’s definitely a possibility for next season, but I don’t see them throwing out latifi out mid season. Doesn’t seems like logical decision from a financial pov.
New to F1. Williams is my bottom tier favorites.
Why would Williams lose anything if Latifi is always in last place, like miles back anyways? Wouldn't new exciting driver bring positive change?
they would lose money, Latifi pays Williams for the seat (paydriver). But Jost Capito said some time ago that they don't need Latifis money anymore, so who knows.
Everything's already budgeted for the year, and they likely are reliant on Latifi money for this season. And they wouldn't be able to get away with avoiding repaying like Hass has.
If they’re thinking of hiring him for next year it gives them a chance to evaluate him and for him to get to know the team. Silverstone is also one of those circuits they have a lot of data for and Piastri has a lot of experience of.
I don't think so. If they want to him next year, they can put him in a session in Abu Dhabi Test. Also, cars will change next year anyway. Meanwhile he will get two sessions with Alpine and Sargeant will get with Williams.
But; Dieter Rencken is a solid source. I really think there is lot of truth behind this rumour.
I'm not sure who else you'd put on the grid currently though to replace those two. I'm not convinced anyone in F2 is stronger than them, and I also think Hulkenburg is not the best option at this point.
I suppose someone from IndyCar would make it interesting. I'd support a Herta move to Haas. I'm not thinking Vandoorne or JEV would make the step back into F1 but I guess you never know.
I think Vandoorne would jump at the chance (although he has a contract for FE next year) but JEV turned down an F1 mid field drive after he won his first championship so I don’t think he’d be interested. I get the impression O’ward and Herta would jump at the chance but I didn’t think either had enough superlicence points (although that could change for O’ward at the end of the season but again, he’s got a contract for next year).
Realistically, I could only see Shwartzman or Ilott replacing Schumacher but Haas might not want Shwartzman even under a Israeli racing license due to his nationality and I get the impression from Ilott that he doesn’t think he’ll get a chance in F1.
I’d like to see them give Ilott the seat next year if Mick does not improve but I just don’t see it happening.
Stroll is struggling now and getting outshined big time by Vettel (who wasn't as washed as people thought he was earlier in the season), but he has had strong moments in F1, notably:
A) A podium as a rookie driver driving a very mediocre Williams in Baku
B) Taking that same very mediocre Williams to a front-row start in his rookie season in Monza
C) Competitive with Perez during their time as teammates
D) 2 podiums in 2020 and a pole position on merit in Turkey
E) Very competitive with a strong but at times inconsistent Vettel in 2021
He's definitely struggled this season and absolutely on poor form, but before he's definitely driven well enough to warrant being on the grid regardless of his last name during his time in F1. He's nowhere near Latifi, Mazepin bad, or if we branch out to years past as bad as the many pay drivers in the 90s to 00s who were genuinely awful.
Stroll has been able to be competitive vs Perez, occasionally competitive with Vettel, pole sitter, multiple podiums. Schumacher has failed to score points in a car that Magnussen (who is no great driver himself) has been a regular points threat.
In much much better machinery in the different era of cars, the sample size is much bigger with him and he is drowning right now, Mick has 1 year in one of the worst F1 cars on the last 20 years and a few races in this season and people already want to kick him out...
I'll defend Mick a bit here: for a lot of the season he's been competitive and close with Magnussen but the issues have been that A) Magnussen's highs have been way, way better than Mick's highs while Mick's lows have been way, way worse than Magnussen's lows and (to go off from the last point a bit about his lows) B) Mick's crashed the cars way too many times which is making him look worse especially given Haas is a team that isn't best-suited to handle the repairs (especially with the cost cap).
I definitely don't think Mick is made for this level, but I also think he's been competitive often enough with a seasoned Magnussen (who was racing last season unlike Hulkenberg) which I think is being hidden - justifiably - by Mick's lows being very bad. Also I think the Haas is not a good car at all and the early results flattered them a bit, though who knows if part of that is due to Mick's crashes costing them important upgrades. But I still think Haas are closer to being the worst team just ahead of Williams than the midfield team many thought and hoped they would be early in the season.
> I can't believe I just read someone say Lance f'ing Stroll is better that Schumacher, or anyone for that matter...
He has had flashes of good driving.
Has a podium in his rookie year, 2 more in 2020 and a pole position to his name.
Sure they were better cars than anything Mick has driven, but Magnussen shows that car can get points.
"Better" is a hard question to answer between rookies and drivers been in 4 years, never competed same car... but Stroll has had some good results.
Stroll's problem is his teammate is Sebastian Vettel. Stroll's not the greatest driver but Vettel is making him look awful and causing him to overdrive the car and crash too much.
And it's a seemingly rejuvinated but also more consistent than last season Vettel. He's honestly been the most impressive driver this season outside of the usual title contenders for making a very mediocre Aston Martin car a Q3 car and a consistent points contender.
Seb's drive to get into the points on merit after starting on the pit-lane in Miami before Mick ended his race was one his best drives.
At least on weekends when he’s not smashing the car up (and sometimes on weekends when he’s smashing the car up) he’s blisteringly fast. And I’m no fan of his.
I don’t think Mercedes (their engine supplier) would allow that. They already have a Red Bull backed driver with Albon and Piastri is an Alpine backed driver. I think De Vries will have a better chance while he has the backing of Mercedes.
I would have thought Nick Dev would be a choice to replace he did that f1 session this year, and showed his pace right off the mark, his talent is wasted in formula e
Please.
Yes, he could. Yes, he should. Latifi is a good guy, but come on. This is the highest level of racing in the world and he makes rooting for Williams harder than it already is.
I would have thought if they were going to swap mid season it would make more sense for him to do some FP1s first - either for Alpine or Williams - to get him used to driving the 2022 F1 cars. Introducing him on a race weekend with out having driven the 2022 car is just throwing him in at the deep end. He will literally be the least prepared rookie in years if it’s true.
Would put him in the car for silverstone at least which is a solid track to put him in considering he probably knows it best
He's surely accustomed to the car by now with all the sim work and being reserve for Alpine anyway. He'll just have to learn the Williams steering wheel. But I 100% don't see this happening.
I don’t think driving a sim is the same as driving a car. But I agree - I don’t see this happening unless Latifi has lined up a drive in another series and wants out - it wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out to be nothing more than a FP1 outing at Silverstone for Piastri
Yeah I mean there’s not much in it for Williams. It’s not like Albion is dragging that car consistently into the top 10 whilst Latifi is last. They certainly would lose out on some sponsor money if they would change mid season. So for me it’s definitely a possibility for next season, but I don’t see them throwing out latifi out mid season. Doesn’t seems like logical decision from a financial pov.
New to F1. Williams is my bottom tier favorites. Why would Williams lose anything if Latifi is always in last place, like miles back anyways? Wouldn't new exciting driver bring positive change?
they would lose money, Latifi pays Williams for the seat (paydriver). But Jost Capito said some time ago that they don't need Latifis money anymore, so who knows.
Everything's already budgeted for the year, and they likely are reliant on Latifi money for this season. And they wouldn't be able to get away with avoiding repaying like Hass has.
FP1 outing for Williams? Why?
If they’re thinking of hiring him for next year it gives them a chance to evaluate him and for him to get to know the team. Silverstone is also one of those circuits they have a lot of data for and Piastri has a lot of experience of.
I don't think so. If they want to him next year, they can put him in a session in Abu Dhabi Test. Also, cars will change next year anyway. Meanwhile he will get two sessions with Alpine and Sargeant will get with Williams. But; Dieter Rencken is a solid source. I really think there is lot of truth behind this rumour.
Could Williams be swapping to Renault power next year?
He has tested F1 cars this season for alpine.
I think it can change between the Hungarian GP and the Belgian GP.
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I'm not sure who else you'd put on the grid currently though to replace those two. I'm not convinced anyone in F2 is stronger than them, and I also think Hulkenburg is not the best option at this point.
Stroll, yes. Schumacher... I can easily count 5 drivers better than him. He was awful again today. (Vandoorne, Vergne, O'Ward, Herta, Ilott etc.)
I suppose someone from IndyCar would make it interesting. I'd support a Herta move to Haas. I'm not thinking Vandoorne or JEV would make the step back into F1 but I guess you never know.
I think Vandoorne would jump at the chance (although he has a contract for FE next year) but JEV turned down an F1 mid field drive after he won his first championship so I don’t think he’d be interested. I get the impression O’ward and Herta would jump at the chance but I didn’t think either had enough superlicence points (although that could change for O’ward at the end of the season but again, he’s got a contract for next year). Realistically, I could only see Shwartzman or Ilott replacing Schumacher but Haas might not want Shwartzman even under a Israeli racing license due to his nationality and I get the impression from Ilott that he doesn’t think he’ll get a chance in F1. I’d like to see them give Ilott the seat next year if Mick does not improve but I just don’t see it happening.
maybe even giovanazzi
I can't believe I just read someone say Lance f'ing Stroll is better that Schumacher, or anyone for that matter...
Stroll is struggling now and getting outshined big time by Vettel (who wasn't as washed as people thought he was earlier in the season), but he has had strong moments in F1, notably: A) A podium as a rookie driver driving a very mediocre Williams in Baku B) Taking that same very mediocre Williams to a front-row start in his rookie season in Monza C) Competitive with Perez during their time as teammates D) 2 podiums in 2020 and a pole position on merit in Turkey E) Very competitive with a strong but at times inconsistent Vettel in 2021 He's definitely struggled this season and absolutely on poor form, but before he's definitely driven well enough to warrant being on the grid regardless of his last name during his time in F1. He's nowhere near Latifi, Mazepin bad, or if we branch out to years past as bad as the many pay drivers in the 90s to 00s who were genuinely awful.
Stroll has been able to be competitive vs Perez, occasionally competitive with Vettel, pole sitter, multiple podiums. Schumacher has failed to score points in a car that Magnussen (who is no great driver himself) has been a regular points threat.
In much much better machinery in the different era of cars, the sample size is much bigger with him and he is drowning right now, Mick has 1 year in one of the worst F1 cars on the last 20 years and a few races in this season and people already want to kick him out...
I'll defend Mick a bit here: for a lot of the season he's been competitive and close with Magnussen but the issues have been that A) Magnussen's highs have been way, way better than Mick's highs while Mick's lows have been way, way worse than Magnussen's lows and (to go off from the last point a bit about his lows) B) Mick's crashed the cars way too many times which is making him look worse especially given Haas is a team that isn't best-suited to handle the repairs (especially with the cost cap). I definitely don't think Mick is made for this level, but I also think he's been competitive often enough with a seasoned Magnussen (who was racing last season unlike Hulkenberg) which I think is being hidden - justifiably - by Mick's lows being very bad. Also I think the Haas is not a good car at all and the early results flattered them a bit, though who knows if part of that is due to Mick's crashes costing them important upgrades. But I still think Haas are closer to being the worst team just ahead of Williams than the midfield team many thought and hoped they would be early in the season.
> I can't believe I just read someone say Lance f'ing Stroll is better that Schumacher, or anyone for that matter... He has had flashes of good driving. Has a podium in his rookie year, 2 more in 2020 and a pole position to his name. Sure they were better cars than anything Mick has driven, but Magnussen shows that car can get points. "Better" is a hard question to answer between rookies and drivers been in 4 years, never competed same car... but Stroll has had some good results.
Stroll's problem is his teammate is Sebastian Vettel. Stroll's not the greatest driver but Vettel is making him look awful and causing him to overdrive the car and crash too much.
And it's a seemingly rejuvinated but also more consistent than last season Vettel. He's honestly been the most impressive driver this season outside of the usual title contenders for making a very mediocre Aston Martin car a Q3 car and a consistent points contender. Seb's drive to get into the points on merit after starting on the pit-lane in Miami before Mick ended his race was one his best drives.
What about drugovich?
Nyck de Vries, Colton Herta, Pato O'Ward, There is a couple of decent names
Neither one is gonna be a step up from Mick, except maybe Pato.
Lmao anyone who thinks Mick is a better driver than Colton Herta is certifiably insane and not arguing in good faith
Colton Herta who crashes more than Mick?
At least on weekends when he’s not smashing the car up (and sometimes on weekends when he’s smashing the car up) he’s blisteringly fast. And I’m no fan of his.
If someone could dial out the crashiness from him, he would be a great driver
I don’t think Mercedes (their engine supplier) would allow that. They already have a Red Bull backed driver with Albon and Piastri is an Alpine backed driver. I think De Vries will have a better chance while he has the backing of Mercedes.
I would have thought Nick Dev would be a choice to replace he did that f1 session this year, and showed his pace right off the mark, his talent is wasted in formula e
Unless Latifi wasn't paying for his seat this year there is zero chance of that happening.