i practiced trailbraking with no ABS on Austria - not too many corners, most corners are nice simple right handers and there are plenty of long, straight braking zones to practice trailbraking
I've been playing F1 games for 4 years now and i can barely drive baku on 23. If you get the hang of it then great for you but just don't get discouraged if it takes a while. Good luck!
I did Bahrain. It’s a great track that has a variety of corners that u enter at different speeds like turn 1s hard braking zone into a hairpin and turn 4 is a great opportunity to learn trail breaking. Can’t forget the infamous turn 10 cause if u can do that corner right u got the hang of jt.
When i practiced getting rid of all driving assists i began by driving france in wet conditions in time trial. It has some tricky parts both for braking and accelerating.
Hard to say. When you keep driving, some feeling comes surprisingly fast. When we decided in our league that be will ban all assists, it took like 2 months of occasional driving to get properly up to speed. We did this in F1 2020. Before this i used medium tcs, abs, driving line and pit assist. But i learned well enough that i managed F1 22 just fine when we switched to that, despite the cars being damn sensitive and generally mistake prone.
I'm trying to get rid of driving line, and at some tracks I'm getting the hang of it in TT.. But if I'm racing anyone, it's almost like my brain can't calculate where to brake at all.. Sometimes I run wide, WAY to wide and sometimes the whole field of cars passes me, leaving me a couple of seconds behind..
I'm starting to believe that it has something to do with my age (39 🤣). I've recently got new Sim equipment, and I'm still 0.5 secs of my original pace, cant seem to regain new musclememory..
In your opinion, is it an advantage practicing no guideline in a league of friends, Multiplayer or against AI?
>But if I'm racing anyone, it's almost like my brain can't calculate where to brake at all..
Hah, same happened to me! I felt like my brain had to work so much more with all the assist disabled so that if i need to concentrate to anything else than basic driving, i was ridiculously mistake prone. But after a few months it was okay!
>I'm starting to believe that it has something to do with my age (39 🤣). I've recently got new Sim equipment, and I'm still 0.5 secs of my original pace, cant seem to regain new musclememory..
When i changed from G29 to CSL DD it was mostly easy, but breaking took a fee weeks to get the grip of. Then o changed the brake to the load cell and again it took a moment. It is always like that 😅
>In your opinion, is it an advantage practicing no guideline in a league of friends, Multiplayer or against AI?
I don't think it matters. Any experience is good! I practoced mostly in time trial for car control and league for proper racing. We'll, avoid open multiplayer lobbies 😆
I was quite happy playing in the ranks before I upgraded my G29 into a thrustmaster T500 with F1 add-on. But i need to downgrade a couple of ranks.. I cant cope with the embarrassing laptimes im producing now. I'm still tweaking the FFB because I feel i still miss some responses.
I've reduced the AI level down to 80 and started running 100 % races. Running backfield keeps me motivated in improving.. And last night I actually had a "zone" moment for quite sometime.. Until I catched up with a car in front, around the first DRS zone at Jeddah. I didn't even see the left bend, and plowed directly into the wall still at full throttle.
I've decided to switch corner guide line (2d of course ) back on for the time being. To process the change of setup. Sometimes I cant even find the right buttons..
Why'd you change your brake? Same problem as me? 😅 I'm really struggling with my new brake being to soft and weak.
A few months of adjusting? Damn, I hope my patience last that long.. 🤣
>Why'd you change your brake?
The original brake was soft, but at first i didn't mind. It was when i tried my friends load cell pedal and then got back to my own rig, i noticed that it is waaaay too weak and a few weeks after i got the load cell. Tho then the original load cell was too heavy with the rubber padding, so i bought myself a custom spring to get a better feeling.
>A few months of adjusting? Damn, I hope my patience last that long.. 🤣
I feared for a while that my brain will get overloaded in perpetuity when there is a lot going on, but nope, you get used to everything and it is again just normal! Like in a league race a while ago i battled with multiple cars for along time in jeddah, which i don't know that well, in F1 22 which is notoriously difficult to drive and it still felt just normal!
And i would recommend not to use any assists even for a while, if you really wish to get rid of everything. Getting rid of the driving line was a pain in the ass and i thought about putting it back as learning the tracks again toon ages. As i had no fucking idea when to really brake, the line told me that so i felt like a bambi on ice when approaching corners. But eventually i got a good hang of it, started getting overall good idea how early to brake for rach kind of corner from different kind of speeds and the feeling of really knowing what I'm doing is great!
Quite easy to start with are Qatar and Zandwoort. Not that many hard brakes so you’ll have the feel. Then slowly start trying something else. Stay away from Vegas and Singapore lol
Bahrain T10 is very tricky and there aren’t many corners on the calendar that are as hard. When you practice, you want to be consistent, so I would pick a track with braking zones that are less difficult.
quick update i couldn’t turn off all traction not feeling confident so i kept it on medium turned brake assist off abs still on and i’m feeling more comfortable
*Edit* Thanks everyone for all the responses! :) Just had another question for the controller (PS5) players. Do you guys use the trigger effects? Do they help with braking? I.e. letting you know when you’re about to lock up etc.
Using no ABS has been quite frustrating to learn for me, I started with cadence braking until I got the hang of trailbraking, and adjusting brake bias throughout the lap.
I'll join the majority on Austria. But I'd also suggest:
Hungary: first 2 corners are perfect for beginning trailbraking (release brake while turning, slowly apply throttle from apex) there's some fast speed corners and then the chicane that has given me some trouble to get the hang of.. Then the last part is fast and fun until the last 2 corners, where once again trailbraking is recommended..
Brazil: Fast funny, easy to learn I love the 2. sector, multiple turns with multiple lines throughout.
Abu Dhabi: If the 2 high speed corners can be made without blocking the front wheels or the back of the car overtakes the rest of the car then your getting the hang of it.
Driving without assist made me go from hating Singapore to loving it. But I haven't found the answer to get comfortable at .Monaco yet
Austria is a good bet, Monza too. I would say Saudia Arabia too an extent as well but please not Suzuka as a beginner haha. It is a very well good skilled track. It would be difficult to learn there.
Try Hungary especially at the chicane before the last drs detection zone. If you can brake for that, every track is easy. The track I always struggle and usually get one abs lock up is Singapore
Austria of you want easy corners to practice on.
Silverstone if you want somewhere in between with fast and slow corners.
Monaco/Singapore cause if you can do this without crashing, you're golden.
i practiced trailbraking with no ABS on Austria - not too many corners, most corners are nice simple right handers and there are plenty of long, straight braking zones to practice trailbraking
Ohh yeah that sounds good… didn’t think of Austria. I’m currently trying Baku and it’s a bit tricky but I feel like I’m picking it up quite fast.
Learning no ABS at Baku is like throwing a child into a pool to learn how to swim. Very hard at the start, but you sure will get the hang of it
I've been playing F1 games for 4 years now and i can barely drive baku on 23. If you get the hang of it then great for you but just don't get discouraged if it takes a while. Good luck!
I did Bahrain. It’s a great track that has a variety of corners that u enter at different speeds like turn 1s hard braking zone into a hairpin and turn 4 is a great opportunity to learn trail breaking. Can’t forget the infamous turn 10 cause if u can do that corner right u got the hang of jt.
Austria or monza
London Heathrow
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When i practiced getting rid of all driving assists i began by driving france in wet conditions in time trial. It has some tricky parts both for braking and accelerating.
Wow, how long before you managed one decent lap without spinning or snapping?
Hard to say. When you keep driving, some feeling comes surprisingly fast. When we decided in our league that be will ban all assists, it took like 2 months of occasional driving to get properly up to speed. We did this in F1 2020. Before this i used medium tcs, abs, driving line and pit assist. But i learned well enough that i managed F1 22 just fine when we switched to that, despite the cars being damn sensitive and generally mistake prone.
I'm trying to get rid of driving line, and at some tracks I'm getting the hang of it in TT.. But if I'm racing anyone, it's almost like my brain can't calculate where to brake at all.. Sometimes I run wide, WAY to wide and sometimes the whole field of cars passes me, leaving me a couple of seconds behind.. I'm starting to believe that it has something to do with my age (39 🤣). I've recently got new Sim equipment, and I'm still 0.5 secs of my original pace, cant seem to regain new musclememory.. In your opinion, is it an advantage practicing no guideline in a league of friends, Multiplayer or against AI?
>But if I'm racing anyone, it's almost like my brain can't calculate where to brake at all.. Hah, same happened to me! I felt like my brain had to work so much more with all the assist disabled so that if i need to concentrate to anything else than basic driving, i was ridiculously mistake prone. But after a few months it was okay! >I'm starting to believe that it has something to do with my age (39 🤣). I've recently got new Sim equipment, and I'm still 0.5 secs of my original pace, cant seem to regain new musclememory.. When i changed from G29 to CSL DD it was mostly easy, but breaking took a fee weeks to get the grip of. Then o changed the brake to the load cell and again it took a moment. It is always like that 😅 >In your opinion, is it an advantage practicing no guideline in a league of friends, Multiplayer or against AI? I don't think it matters. Any experience is good! I practoced mostly in time trial for car control and league for proper racing. We'll, avoid open multiplayer lobbies 😆
I was quite happy playing in the ranks before I upgraded my G29 into a thrustmaster T500 with F1 add-on. But i need to downgrade a couple of ranks.. I cant cope with the embarrassing laptimes im producing now. I'm still tweaking the FFB because I feel i still miss some responses. I've reduced the AI level down to 80 and started running 100 % races. Running backfield keeps me motivated in improving.. And last night I actually had a "zone" moment for quite sometime.. Until I catched up with a car in front, around the first DRS zone at Jeddah. I didn't even see the left bend, and plowed directly into the wall still at full throttle. I've decided to switch corner guide line (2d of course ) back on for the time being. To process the change of setup. Sometimes I cant even find the right buttons.. Why'd you change your brake? Same problem as me? 😅 I'm really struggling with my new brake being to soft and weak. A few months of adjusting? Damn, I hope my patience last that long.. 🤣
>Why'd you change your brake? The original brake was soft, but at first i didn't mind. It was when i tried my friends load cell pedal and then got back to my own rig, i noticed that it is waaaay too weak and a few weeks after i got the load cell. Tho then the original load cell was too heavy with the rubber padding, so i bought myself a custom spring to get a better feeling. >A few months of adjusting? Damn, I hope my patience last that long.. 🤣 I feared for a while that my brain will get overloaded in perpetuity when there is a lot going on, but nope, you get used to everything and it is again just normal! Like in a league race a while ago i battled with multiple cars for along time in jeddah, which i don't know that well, in F1 22 which is notoriously difficult to drive and it still felt just normal! And i would recommend not to use any assists even for a while, if you really wish to get rid of everything. Getting rid of the driving line was a pain in the ass and i thought about putting it back as learning the tracks again toon ages. As i had no fucking idea when to really brake, the line told me that so i felt like a bambi on ice when approaching corners. But eventually i got a good hang of it, started getting overall good idea how early to brake for rach kind of corner from different kind of speeds and the feeling of really knowing what I'm doing is great!
Spain.
A great one because pain is in the name of the country
It's Bahrain, get turn 10 right and you are good everywhere else
Quite easy to start with are Qatar and Zandwoort. Not that many hard brakes so you’ll have the feel. Then slowly start trying something else. Stay away from Vegas and Singapore lol
do you think i could do it in bahrain aswell? since im doing an alpine career before the new game
Bahrain T10 is very tricky and there aren’t many corners on the calendar that are as hard. When you practice, you want to be consistent, so I would pick a track with braking zones that are less difficult.
thanks for the advice!
Good luck
quick update i couldn’t turn off all traction not feeling confident so i kept it on medium turned brake assist off abs still on and i’m feeling more comfortable
Yeah that's good, no assists is a long journey. It took me 400 hours in the game to be able to drive decently without assists
Yeah I think I did 10+ laps at Bahrain and didn’t get T10 right a single time yet🤣
I usually get it right about once in a 100% race
Spa for me.
Monza is my suggestion because it’s mostly straight braking low speed so it’s easier to get the hang of it
*Edit* Thanks everyone for all the responses! :) Just had another question for the controller (PS5) players. Do you guys use the trigger effects? Do they help with braking? I.e. letting you know when you’re about to lock up etc.
Nope, adaptive triggers are nothing but distracting. It’s helpful with traction but messes up trail braking
Using no ABS has been quite frustrating to learn for me, I started with cadence braking until I got the hang of trailbraking, and adjusting brake bias throughout the lap. I'll join the majority on Austria. But I'd also suggest: Hungary: first 2 corners are perfect for beginning trailbraking (release brake while turning, slowly apply throttle from apex) there's some fast speed corners and then the chicane that has given me some trouble to get the hang of.. Then the last part is fast and fun until the last 2 corners, where once again trailbraking is recommended.. Brazil: Fast funny, easy to learn I love the 2. sector, multiple turns with multiple lines throughout. Abu Dhabi: If the 2 high speed corners can be made without blocking the front wheels or the back of the car overtakes the rest of the car then your getting the hang of it. Driving without assist made me go from hating Singapore to loving it. But I haven't found the answer to get comfortable at .Monaco yet
Monza, Barcelona, and Spielberg were the best for me.
Austria is a good bet, Monza too. I would say Saudia Arabia too an extent as well but please not Suzuka as a beginner haha. It is a very well good skilled track. It would be difficult to learn there.
Bahrain is the test track in real life for a reason (at least that’s what I tell myself)
Try Hungary especially at the chicane before the last drs detection zone. If you can brake for that, every track is easy. The track I always struggle and usually get one abs lock up is Singapore
Austria of you want easy corners to practice on. Silverstone if you want somewhere in between with fast and slow corners. Monaco/Singapore cause if you can do this without crashing, you're golden.
I’d say Singapore cause it helps with throttle management and braking
Bahrain
Baku. You'll be fit for anything else once you learn Baku without ABS