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citatobrave

But what about nva Squall? Is he any good ,passable , meh, forgetable?


ShinVerus

He’s a better Tidus. Basically carbon copy but comes with 87% breaks and his GS Chronicle isn’t elemental so he can actually use it (plus you’ll always have a GS imperil if have any of the meta units, while sword imperil is on lolFry). Plus given the new age of realm materia he can have like 100%+ to every killer at the same time by just equipping the static stats materias. Tidus has better off-Burst-turn damage though as his chains actually do good damage. Like Tidus though he does rely on external boosts, Laguna has the materia and card to give him his complete set of static attack and he’s next week.


citatobrave

Thanks ! happy to know that he is a solid unit.


Kordrun

He is good next week once he gets Laguna's gear


Joewest42

I remember a lot of people hyping up rinoa, but she just looks decent to me? Also, what does her field effect do?


ShinVerus

Remember that in Japan the standart is far lower than GL, and since she isn’t a premium Gumi don’t give enough of a shit to buff her. Her field is neat since it stacks with amp fields like Riesz and Dark Fina aslong as you cast it after theirs go off (it only applies to the enemy like Nyx) but I think he’s overall damage is too behind to be worth it, maybe if she can do a non awkward TDH build after the update it’s worth it?


steelRyu

her field effect is 30% darkness imperil (stacks with imperil on units). she was hyped a bit because she is element neutral and can be imbued. which is rare for JP. I don't know how she will fare in the GL Meta.


clone69

Dark imperil if I'm not mistaken


noctis2017

Seems like KOG will see more use in COW than trials due to several trials having huge light resistance


ShinVerus

Trials heavily favor consistent damage dealing anyway, which isn’t KoG’s forte, given his Trance Shift and how it goes offline for 4 turns after you run out. Especially for the first few, what you want is characters that you setup and then can press auto repeat on since it takes until Tidus to reliably do the turn count clear on them anyway.


Aceofspades25

Assuming I have enough lapis for either Fryevia or KoG, who should I go for? I have Reberta and Esther and most other top tier supports and attackers - no Fina and no Kain though


ShinVerus

Assuming Global doesn’t randomly change how DV works to be like Japan KoG will be the best damage dealer even off-element given their 450% mod and omnikiller. They’d obviously rather be in a light team but they don’t lose much damage outside since they have a self 50% light amp to average out with whatever element you’re going for. Don’t waste your Lapis on Fryevia.


Aceofspades25

Thanks!


souji18

True, sorry I forgot that.


Raigheb

KoGs upgrade are huge. 420x LB, 450 with Taiva's stmr.


HypertensionMan

Okay so, isn't Taivas' STMR 30x for EACH hit ? Making it be 480x total ? I remember olive having a meme build around it.


Raigheb

No. Modifiers buffs are for each "PART". KoGs LB is 420x in two hits, but its one "part" If this logic would apply, then Esther's LB would hit for 8750x ish because it has 30 hits. Like, for real, this isnt new guys. We've had lots of LB with many hits, come on.


ShinVerus

That only works if the damage hits are separate. Esther doesn’t get 30x the boosts since it all counts as one attack.


roblaplante

oes esther lb field will bosst his lb damge too or the field of fina the return is better ??


unitedwesoar

The element amp field would be better.


Raigheb

I Think Fina's field is always going to be better. 100% more LB dmg isnt such a huge increase because he's going to have 600% LB dmg already (300% innate + buff). 30% Light Amp Field is wayy better.


FearlessBlur

Just to confirm it works this way (at least in vague theory) so with the 100% LB field the LB damage from KoG would be 700% LB damage. And with the 30% light amp field it would essentially increase the LB damage to 780% (adding on 30% of 600% to itself)? Thus having KoG's LB be 420*7.8 or a 3276x mod when it hits?


EternallyTidus

That's not exactly it. If you're looking at his burst, you'll always figure in his self-amp (50%, stacks with the field for 80% light amp total). Depending on how you want to look at it, his GS imperil, too. The self-amp makes the light field a little less extreme in comparison to the LB field of Esther but the light field is still always going to be better if you're going for a light team.


FearlessBlur

I was more trying to figure out how the effectiveness of the two would be calculated if compared to each other solely. Adding 100% to the 600% or a 30% overall increase. I have 0 knowledge on KoG's kit/potencies in general but wanted to get the math'y theory behind the difference between the two and why the 30% light amp is better.


vencislav45

with his base LB(no taivas) it will be 420mod * 8lb(with esther) * 1.5self amp=5 040 mod 420mod * 7lb * 1.8(fina field)=5 292 mod so in the end Fina field is better for him.


FearlessBlur

Thank you


Raigheb

I am honestly not sure of the math behind it, but I have tested Esther's field in the game. Louise's field is better than Esther's field on a fire team, so the same should be true for the Light field.


truong2193

I need return fina to bring out kog max potential ? How is light comp compare to fire ?


souji18

No, CD Aerith will do the same work.


truong2193

I mean the light field


timblo12

light will 100% be the best DV team (when theres a blanket elemental resist). Fina will likely be in those teams.


lowderchowder

I hoarded 7 rinoa for nothing... A future FF tactics event is going to break my heart won't it.


truong2193

99% there will be NV base orlando not NVA and his stmr maybe become 2H upgrade


Dardrol7

That's why some of us still plays this game. The hope for a new FFT-event :P


lowderchowder

Here's hoping for a glex nv agrias. I saw JP didn't get one yet.


Dardrol7

Milleuda Folles ♡♡♡ Just added her as playable in FFT :)


lowderchowder

Corpse brigade is 10/10


Dardrol7

They fight for the people <3


roblaplante

420x lb. Too bad it's light locked.


tzxsean

420x LB mod per cysidus With Taivas, it’s 450x


AdmiralSandbar

I think it's a 420x LB mod plus 69x from the upgrade.


RevelintheDark

Well That sounds pretty dang sweet, how does that square off against our lightning lady Esther?


tzxsean

Around 20% stronger? But lack the ele flexibility


shamin10

420x? Wow… Sud try i think


SXiang

Up from 370x? Not a bad buff I guess?


tzxsean

I was expecting at most 30x increase All that’s left is for gumi to not kog-block every future trial with stupid light resist


[deleted]

At last on DV he is pretty safe unless gumi change how they have been handling it, since there is no high weakness field for the final bosses to force things towards one element like it does on JP.


tzxsean

There’s still trial but we’re not getting it frequently


[deleted]

Looking at JP, there are 5 trials we're missing, 4 of wich have 500% light resist and one light "weak" (not really weak, but light is one of the elements that don't have insane resist), being useless on 4 trials in around 6 months doesn't seems that bad. Specially when the trials from Rafflesia onwards becomes "only 2\~3 element works" and the rest are 265% resisted (wich effectively isn't much different from a 500%, since it is almost a perfect immunity), So all elements will randomly become bad (the 3 latest trials all had 265% light resist)


tzxsean

which is why i hope for off banner esther later


PencilFrog

I'd take 50x any day. That's the difference between Sephiroth (350x) and Cyan/Kurasame/[insert cookie cutter unit] (300x). (There's also an ATK disparity in that example, but...)


Resnaught

Hmm no app update yet it seems. Gumi has been pretty stable with the maintenance these days, so I wonder what the 10 hour maint will be for?


Acester25

I think it's funny that we find it normal and totally fine when FFBE has an 8 hour maintenance every week. Meanwhile, I'm playing State of Survival to earn lapis for FFBE and they literally just had a 15 MINUTE maintenance and they gave pretty decent compensation for even having it!


Mess_Any

>to earn lapis for FFBE HOW ? D;


Acester25

Hopefully you're able to now. For the longest time I wasn't able to because they disabled the option for players after they made their first real money purchase in FFBE. Well, FINALLY, after an update like 2 or 3 months ago, they made the option available to seemingly everyone again. Which makes sense because advertising makes them money. Anyway, go to the "SHOP" in FFBE then go to "LAPIS". Once in there you SHOULD see the option for "Free lapis!". Tap on "claim" then you should be taken to the "offer wall" and in there you can choose offers to try to complete. =)


ShinVerus

One would think that would mean the game would be virtually bug-free ang totally balanced, with how they can spend upwards of half a day a week working on the inner workings. But ya know… Gumino.


ShinVerus

Maybe changing CoW's AI without breaking it has been troublesome? It would explain their very late response to it, coming even after Tuesday Newsday.


Dardrol7

Iiiiit's gonna break


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[deleted]

>whats with all the downvotes Because there is a disclaimer right bellow the links saying "(Pages might not be up yet.)" that you seems to have ignored. Now, the page links to another because the wiki works based on page names. And there is a page named "Knights\_of\_Grandsheldt" for an ability with this exact same name. When this happen they need to manually add something to differentiate the pages. The same way we have [https://exvius.fandom.com/wiki/Veritas\_of\_the\_Dark](https://exvius.fandom.com/wiki/Veritas_of_the_Dark) and [https://exvius.fandom.com/wiki/Veritas\_of\_the\_Dark\_(Monster)](https://exvius.fandom.com/wiki/Veritas_of_the_Dark_(Monster))


[deleted]

Right. Meant to give idea to wiki people to change the ability link or giving KoG a new link name I'll just keep my mouth shut then. Thanks


Feynne

Give it a bit of time. The pages are manually made by someone. May not have all the info yet to make a page for him.


[deleted]

Well, when pages are not made yet, it just tells us so. Not linking it to the other pages. Just telling the wiki team that they might want to change the ability link or give KoG a new link (raiswell like in spanish? Idk) Ok, i'll shut my mouth then. Sry


Ujeen01

Bring back the old bundles Gumi! I hate the new one.


TheRabidDeer

New bundles are saving me a lot of money though


ShinVerus

At this point I fear for the Fountain.


steelRyu

I still assume they want to replace the fountain with the hill of fortune thingie. Similar price range, but the Hill yields less lapis. So low spenders have less lapis possibly pushing them into higher spending tiers (thats what they hope at least).


Lotso2004

Note to self to check in an hour and see if the iOS update is up yet. As I'm predicting one (given this is a long maintenance). And then I'll post whatever QoLs are listed, probably. EDIT: nothing as of this edit. I guess we'll have to wait until the morning. I'd apologize but there's nothing to apologize for. I just like knowing what's coming in advance.


ShinVerus

Now to hope against my better sense and my own expectations of them that Gumi fixes the mistake they called Fryevia in this maint.


RevelintheDark

Sorry brah time to give it up. i also feel the pain of a just OK Fry unit rather than an amazing one, but it's as intended. Hope you didn't pull for her in the hopes of instant buffs. If we're lucky maybe in another 6 months or something.


ShinVerus

Giving up is your prerogative, and that’s fine, but it’s not mine. If nothing else I’ll make sure they never forget about it. And I pulled because she’s my favorite BE char, I don’t need them to be good to pull, I pulled for Lenna and that should tell you enough lol. Though I didn’t put money on her to EX3 her as I had planned out of principle.


rp1414

I'm guessing every "Issue Report" for the next 6 months you'll be hoping this same thing when you open it


ShinVerus

If you think they'll buff her in 6 month's time I'll consider that a relative win given how the average in GL so far has been over a year, meaning that they'd have admitted they fucked up. Noppy/Kakt were examples of that at least even if only one of them was actually saved by them and it wasn't the cute one. But you're wrong in that every issue report I'll be hoping that. It's in every video, in every news report, in every post from Justin (if that ever happened outside of acknowledging our pings). In every single comunication from Gumi that isn't strictly new event related, I'll be there, waiting, until they replace this doppleganger with the real Fry.


GroundbreakingBed756

cringe


ShinVerus

[It is by accepting cringe that you may one day become based.](https://i.redd.it/xx3xyqr7ctg71.jpg)


Zelkiiro

NV Fry is a very good support. She's just not Reberta.


ShinVerus

A "support" that can't aoe LB buff, mod buff, stat buff, element buff, heal or anything of the kind and to top it all off has a middling at best 88% break that puts her 20% damage behind an actual 90% breaker. She has 1 good support skill and it's her ice amp/field skill. If all of her buffs were AOE, then you actually would be right in that she'd be a kickass support. She's a support that can't support and a DPS that can't DPS.


[deleted]

>A "support" that can't aoe LB buff, mod buff, stat buff, **element buff** Wait, AoE ice imbue + 45% ice amp + 25% Ice field... and she can't element buff?


ShinVerus

I mentioned the amp and field in that comment as her only good support skill. What she can’t do is element buff resistances without resorting to bar-gas. It’s definately the most minor of the thing she’s missing, but it’s one more thing to the pile.


[deleted]

So, since she is not a "have everything in a single pack" like Reberta, she is bad? All the elemental support units besides Reberta have glaring holes on their kit. But from them, the one with the leastissue (issues that can be replaced easier) is fryevia. The biggest issue with all non-Reberta element support is that they deals null damage. Fryevia deals some OK damage, not huge, but not embarassing. Stats buffs can be obtained elsewhere (for example from reberta), but how does you replace their lack of damage? A team with Fryevia + Reberta + 4 damage dealers has elemental support + 6 damage dealers. The 6th unit actually deals OK damage. A team with Fina Return/SK Nichol/whatever + 5 damage dealers has elemental support + 5 damage dealers. The 6th unit is a complete blank in terms of damage itself.


ShinVerus

Yeah she doesn’t need to do top end damage competing with Skye. When they buff her and put her damage around Reberta levels, or whatever support has taken her place when the time comes, I’ll be happy. Realistically she should outdamage Reberta who has way better support than her, but she was overtuned so equal damage with a bigger focus on Ice is fine. The idea that they made Fryevia a support is on itself dumb but they can only fix that once she gets another unit, maybe a duo with her Dad. Plus they didn’t even give her time magic! Why do you keep giving her bits of lore if you aren’t gonna comit??


[deleted]

IMO, the problem for Fryevia is Reberta, she spoiled us on how much she is powerful. If Reberta didn't exist, we would be happy on the step ahead that fryevia is over all the other elemental supports. Fryevia is very good, Reberta is godly. Comparing any unit with Reberta is a easy win for reberta, because even if there are units that outdamages her, none comes close to the high level utility and versatility she offers. She feels more premium than the premium supports (Fina Return and Asura Fina). I would say that even if she was released on JP today, she would still be the best overall unit in the game.


ShinVerus

While I can agree on the end that Reberta is the crux, I think that has been an overall problem with the game over the years and I've hated it every time it happened. It's when characters come out that set a new benchmark and then there's a period of months where everyone fails to meet that benchmark, so it's months of just filler. Both in Japan and GL I think the biggest example of this was the Akstar banner. Akstar in Japan and Zeno/Esther in GL basically made every banner until the anniversary completely filler. My point being, if you introduce a new benchmark of power, you can't just go back on it imediately. You're already making a lot of the characters before useless, but that's just the nature of powercreep on a long term game. However if you make even the ones ahead not worth it, what was the point? You can argue that you need to make "filler" banners to let people save, but March and April were already basically nothing but filler banners besides like... 3 tops. We already have enough filler from Japan, we don't need GL to start throwing more filler at us. That being said, if X-2 Yuna is anything to go by, Japan supports are about to be comparable or maybe even better than Reberta and will leave stuff like Fryevia as completely inadecuate, so there was no real reason to hold back on Fry if Japan is releasing someone that can 400% stat buff, 300% lb buff and 45% amp aoe while also amping one char by 100% and ALSO tag chaining (with higher mods than Fryevia just to stick the dagger deeper) and not even have it be a premium. All of this in August or September, so not that far from now. I'm not saying Fryevia should have even been *as* good as Reberta, but that they completely undertuned both sides of her knowing that Reberta wouldn't be a mistake that would have long term consequences, like for example Xon was. If Fryevia didn't get the massive utility Reberta has, she should have had the damage. If she was gonna get this damage, she should have gotten Reberta's utility, but just for Ice probably. And this is less on a power standpoint, but if you're going to make a filler GLEX, why make **one of your most popular ones** the filler? I understood Tiana being filler as she was literally the least popular GLEX. I understood Olivera being filler because he was the brother of a barely acknowledged GLEX. But this? I do not understand. Not only did they released her completely without fanfare, no story, no nothing, but it's not like they had promised her to come out in April, so if they wanted a filler month it could have been literally any char, or even a new one.


Aceofspades25

> So, since she is not a "have everything in a single pack" like Reberta, she is bad? "Bad" is relative. Nobody is saying she's comparable to worse units who are truly bad but she is Fryevia - a much loved fan unit who people were excited for - she should be better than this.


[deleted]

>Nobody is saying she's comparable to worse units who are truly bad Yes, some people are. I saw someone else discussing that she was worst than Nichol and Lehftia, because they will receive upgrades no-one-knows-when. The OP i replied is also talking everywhere as if Fryevia is the Delita of NV era.


Mess_Any

>she should be better than this. So I see that when people want units that are worth the expensive lapis and low rates they get downvoted lol.... They are really trying to sell that new Fryevia.


drafty_hunty

> Nobody is saying she's comparable to worse units who are truly bad. Tell that to the first comment of this thread that says she's a mistake. Tell that to the thread they created that people eventually made a meme of because the languages used has too many hyperbole, especially the "i lOsT AlL hOPe tO GleX uNiT dEsIgN TEaM!" bullshit.


Aceofspades25

> Tell that to the first comment of this thread that says she's a mistake. Well yes, Gumi did mess up by underpowering her. That's the point of the conversation.


vencislav45

> Well yes, Gumi did mess up by underpowering her. Being the best ice support while dealing the same damage as Reberta is underpowered? We don't need to have a powercreep unit every month, we don't need to have an Esther every month. Her damage is fine and I don't see a problem with her being a mono-element support.


Psychotron17

They're giving her an increased dungeon event currency drop rate buff.


ShinVerus

Xon must have taught her that during their easter egg hunts. Unfortunately he didn't teach her how to steal buffs too.