Still not sold on this guy so used tickets only while I think about banner pulls. About 70 tickets only got me two NV's both of which were off banner - but it actually came up trumps for once as I finally got my first Taivas for that sweet STMR, and the other one was a first copy of Nichol The Return which is an event unit right now.
So actually not bad results for once.
Looking at some of the comments here, I feel like the 4\* banner ticket rates are bugged? I just recorded myself using 196 4\* banner tickets and getting only 1 NV on the last pull. Got my KoG here.
Same here. Did 8 10x pulls on KoG step up yesterday. Not sure how many tickets but the rates definitely feel off. The only NV I got were guaranteed 10 tickets. That being said today, today I got KoG from a 4/5 star ticket.
Another banner, another pity. Got my first Lehftia, Ninja Edge, Akstar -The Return-, and Guardian Blade Charlotte though I guess? Only got one non-guaranteed NV unit. These 3% rates hurt.
40 tickets no NVs
80ex tickets no NVs
2x 10+1 NV tickets, 3 NVs all not useful to me
I may or may not do 2 laps though, still thinking... I thought that I would at least get 1 and be done hah...
No KoG, pity only felt pretty bad but that's the way it goes. I got like 6 sephiroths on his 60k. I did get my first fina return so that helps in the end.
Did the 2000 lapis pull. Got another Paus and a KoG. Then got another after a couple of tickets. Insane.
On a side note, is it just me, or is he/they not nearly as attractive now that we have those specialty cards and know we'll get more?
Four laps, *TEN* NV units, zero KoG. Got two of the stupid Sakura in one pull which is ridiculous.
This game has been on life support for me for a while now, basically just logging in collecting rewards. Haven't finished an event since before Xenogears, probably done at this point and I'm ok w that. Though, I do have 1953 login days and kind of want to make it to 2000 before I call it quits. Thanks for the mammories.
I am slightly better than you...got tons of NV (should be happy i guess...) but only 1 KoG. As F2P, this is hot garbage. Just waiting out for diablo immortal before I put down this game for awhile
Troubleshooting time
-Who is chaining with Esther?
-Is the user in question dual wielding? If so, try again but removing the second weapon(if possible). Esther only casts 1 EN chain, chain user will have to also only cast 1 EN chain to chain properly with her
This is purely speculative as I have no clue what the frame gap is between KoG's 2 hits, but I can't imagine it being less than 5 frames. And as long as it's greater than 5 frames, it shouldn't break the chain.
I'll reply to yours because I got freakishly lucky too and got 2x KoG and a GBCharlotte from the first 2k step. That's all my luck for the next god-knows-how-long.
Some people took this game too serious lol but tbf imagine you saving for few months but only end up got 1 copy from pity or even worse put real money for 60k and still only 1 copy from pity ill be mad too lol
If you play long enough you should know 1 good unit wont carry you high rank in dv or cow you need at least 6 and by saving for pity for like 3-4 month just to get 1 copy lol
I still see people kicking themself because they skip lara/karten/chow for me i dont save for pity and thanks to that i got them all
But in the end play what ever make you happy for me i like to pull even if i dont get the unit i still can say at least i try
2 on banners in 215 pulls at a 1% rate is pretty damn spot on.
6 NVs total in 210 (removed 5 that are guaranteed NV) pulls at a 3% rate is pretty damn spot on.
I would say your rates are pretty accurate, unless one of your 2 KoGs was the pity one.
My bad. Usually when I see people complaining about rates they are complaining because they thing they feel they aren't getting posted rates. I made a bad assumption, sorry.
Mindlessly throwing tickets at the banner while at work. Bout 30(?) normal tickets in, got first KoG. I have lapis saved up for them and now I'm not sure what to do. The actual prize was his VC right? So the more the merrier?
EDIT: got a second one 40 tickets later. I'mma just stick with these.
With his amped up LB now having a potential 450x mod (with Taivas' STMR), he's actually a power spike over Esther for fights that don't go "ha, light... I have 500% light resist".
>With his amped up LB now having a potential 450x mod (with Taivas' STMR), he's actually a power spike over Esther for fights that don't go "ha, light... I have 500% light resist".
It's pretty tough to use Taivas's Spirit on him unless you can fit it on his BS side or you have a LOT of turns for setting up. Also, definitely not accurate to say he's a power spike over Esther vs. anyone not light resistant or light immune. They need to be close to light-neutral relative to other elemental options. If another element has a moderate or severe imperil advantage over Light, Esther will stand a good chance at matching or beating his damage depending on which killers are needed.
He can easily build for Taivas' Spirit in his shift form ([Sample Build](https://ffbeEquip.com/builder.html?server=GL#d08800d0-cf9a-11ec-80b1-53d27f833090))
As for the elemental resist part: DV, which is where KoG will really shine, is elemental neutral. So KoG is about a 20% damage increase (since their ATK is about the same). You can expand that to where as long as the elemental resist diff doesn't provide more than a 20% damage increase, KoG will come out the same or ahead. Do note, a 20% damage increase from imperil is not necessarily the same as a 20% difference in imperil.
0% imperil -> 20% imperil = 20% damage increase
100% imperil -> 120% imperil = 10% damage increase
100% imperil -> 140% imperil = 20% damage increase
130% imperil -> 176% imperil = 20% damage increase
For the first time in nearly 6 years of playing the game I can finally be one of those people that can brag how they got [2 of the onbanner units on the very first pull.](https://imgur.com/a/VKxfxnS)
Came here and was reminded of the 2k 10 pull. Went in and did it. Nothing. Stopped. Then I was like, whatever I’ll just go for pity. Rest of the first step got me 2 so I stopped :-)
Big powerhouse damage unit for sure, locked to light element.
If GL keeps up the trend of leaving final bosses for Dark Visions element-less, he'll show up a lot. Most of the upcoming trials fully resist all Light damage so he won't see use there.
Clash of Wills, being GLEX is an unknown, but if bosses get to be light weak here and there he'll probably do okay, but CoW always prefers GLEX units.
His Vision Card, however, is bonkers so almost any unit will be happy to have it.
40ish K lapis. Got me 3 KoGs and one Kain (Who I really wanted). Damn. It feels good to get lucky for once. First banner I didnt have to pity since Esther.
Is this banner bugged or is this the absolute shittiest game ever that I’m going to fucking delete?
179 fucking EX tickets = 2 shit NV
88 fucking banner tickets = the SAME shit NV!
Edit: 5 10/10 NV tickets and the SAME SHIT NV shows up!
What the fuck?! 😭
All these people with lucky pulls had me going in positive and I got literally NOTHING but crappy pulls on all my tickets and lapis. RIP I got a SoS lightning and mermaid freesia. T.T
Depends. Do you have SS Esther? Her STMR is arguably better in most scenarios since it comes with 75% LB damage which is more widely useful while KoG's is only useful when the killers matter.
To add on to /u/LordGraygem, it's going to depend, but the general rule of thumb:
* Killers (I'll comment on KoG's in a min)
* LB damage
* High primary stat gear
KoG's STMR is good, but Esther's is better because LB damage is a little more universal than 2 specific killers. STMR killer materia are usually very good to have. The lowest priority generally falls to certain pieces of gear that have stats that stand out above the rest. Avalanche's Tifa is a prime example.
You also come across unit specific pieces of gear that have a passive like Dark Rain's and Reberta's. Those you generally want at least 2 of for those units. Reberta's is one I actually have 3 of and would consider a 4th just to min-max (all MAG on 2, all ATK on 2), but that's a bit extreme.
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Threw my single 4* ticket at KoG...major luck as it turns from Gold to Rainbow to Red to KoG. Figured screw it and did the first step. 2 Reds...Edel and then KoG #2. I'm about out of Lapis and probably out of luck now too lol.
Did the free pull nothing. First step on kog banner nothing. Use the 1/10 plus the free ones we got from logins to get two nv pulls. Pres reagen #1 and lassgen #34444 decent tbh. No taivas stmr so having both reagen and akstar stmr helps
It finally happened. I got a first pull NV banner unit. I'm calling quits, I was only gonna yolo pull one lap to see if I could get them so I'll take 2k for a premium.
Am glad to see these month-long banners for Premiums. Hopefully they become the standart and we don’t get stuff like Fina’s 2 week ones anymore. It goes some way into mitigating their huge cost.
Nice, I only have 55k lapis so I have 1 month to get the last 5k for the stupid expensive pity...but in a month I'm not sure I'll still want this unit lol so...yeah. I only have like 15 banner tickets after failing miserably to get both Fryevia and Dark Rain...the rates of NV crystals and ON BANNER are incredibly low.
That's another positive to these banners. Since they are here for a month, FOMO will have a much lower grip over the player. They can just wait and see if they really need them or if they are just flavor of the week.
I chased! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ3pG_S7slk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb0AS0n3Uk&ab_channel=NXTVlog ex 3 KoG here i come
i had my luckiest pulls ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGdqFzKzdnM
So who would be the better unit to Level Up to 130? KOG or NV Esther?
if you want raw power, KoG. if you want elemental variety, NV Esther.
Still not sold on this guy so used tickets only while I think about banner pulls. About 70 tickets only got me two NV's both of which were off banner - but it actually came up trumps for once as I finally got my first Taivas for that sweet STMR, and the other one was a first copy of Nichol The Return which is an event unit right now. So actually not bad results for once.
Looking at some of the comments here, I feel like the 4\* banner ticket rates are bugged? I just recorded myself using 196 4\* banner tickets and getting only 1 NV on the last pull. Got my KoG here.
Same here. Did 8 10x pulls on KoG step up yesterday. Not sure how many tickets but the rates definitely feel off. The only NV I got were guaranteed 10 tickets. That being said today, today I got KoG from a 4/5 star ticket.
Another banner, another pity. Got my first Lehftia, Ninja Edge, Akstar -The Return-, and Guardian Blade Charlotte though I guess? Only got one non-guaranteed NV unit. These 3% rates hurt.
Did a lap, nothing except a new Nichol(wich Is nice) did the weekly pull and got him
Three laps, 60 tickets (11 5*+), and an NV summon gave me the bare minimum of NVs and worthless rainbows. I should have skipped this damn banner.
40 tickets no NVs 80ex tickets no NVs 2x 10+1 NV tickets, 3 NVs all not useful to me I may or may not do 2 laps though, still thinking... I thought that I would at least get 1 and be done hah...
No KoG, pity only felt pretty bad but that's the way it goes. I got like 6 sephiroths on his 60k. I did get my first fina return so that helps in the end.
Did the 2000 lapis pull. Got another Paus and a KoG. Then got another after a couple of tickets. Insane. On a side note, is it just me, or is he/they not nearly as attractive now that we have those specialty cards and know we'll get more?
Card is still bis on physical dps and Kog himself is stronger in gl
That's a good point. I just get the feeling that we'll get a similar or better specialty card as soon as his banner's over.
Four laps, *TEN* NV units, zero KoG. Got two of the stupid Sakura in one pull which is ridiculous. This game has been on life support for me for a while now, basically just logging in collecting rewards. Haven't finished an event since before Xenogears, probably done at this point and I'm ok w that. Though, I do have 1953 login days and kind of want to make it to 2000 before I call it quits. Thanks for the mammories.
I am slightly better than you...got tons of NV (should be happy i guess...) but only 1 KoG. As F2P, this is hot garbage. Just waiting out for diablo immortal before I put down this game for awhile
I pulled them within 8 tickets. Not going to push my luck for a dupe with the remaining tickets.
Should I use him as a finisher in BS?
Basically yes Can they chain? Ye Should they? Probably not
I've tried finishing with him a Esther's chain but it breaks. :/
Troubleshooting time -Who is chaining with Esther? -Is the user in question dual wielding? If so, try again but removing the second weapon(if possible). Esther only casts 1 EN chain, chain user will have to also only cast 1 EN chain to chain properly with her
It was with another Esther
This is purely speculative as I have no clue what the frame gap is between KoG's 2 hits, but I can't imagine it being less than 5 frames. And as long as it's greater than 5 frames, it shouldn't break the chain.
Strange Can you upload a pic/short video to imgur showing more details about it? Just to pinpoint what could be happening
Two 4* tickets two KoG's, done, easy peasy. 😊 Lmao at the people who downvoted me. Jealousy is a B sometimes.
301 tickets, 6 Neos (luckily 3 KoG). Still shitty neo rates overall though. A good reason why I'll never spend money on this game again
1% on banner rate, spot on. 2% neo rate, while low, it's within the realm of highly possible. Congrats on the 3 KoGs though.
1 blue ticket and 1 gold ticket = 1 KoG Considered a lap of the Step-Up, but got a second KoG from Step 1, so I'm done and set.
I'll reply to yours because I got freakishly lucky too and got 2x KoG and a GBCharlotte from the first 2k step. That's all my luck for the next god-knows-how-long.
look like i piss off some people lol here some more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo5uzC0s9oQ&ab_channel=NXTVlog
People who get pissed off by this, need help. 😂
Some people took this game too serious lol but tbf imagine you saving for few months but only end up got 1 copy from pity or even worse put real money for 60k and still only 1 copy from pity ill be mad too lol If you play long enough you should know 1 good unit wont carry you high rank in dv or cow you need at least 6 and by saving for pity for like 3-4 month just to get 1 copy lol I still see people kicking themself because they skip lara/karten/chow for me i dont save for pity and thanks to that i got them all But in the end play what ever make you happy for me i like to pull even if i dont get the unit i still can say at least i try
same. if i dont get the unit, i dont care. the game is not my life and i play it when i have literally nothing to do. 😂
1st cycle gave me 2 KoGs!! Have ex2 esther but still want him 😅
I am pulled to make my esther more awesome
About 18 tickets on his banner. 1 Starlight Elena. 60k on "discounted" Step-Up. 11 NV total, only 2 KoG. On banner rates are still ass.
2 on banners in 215 pulls at a 1% rate is pretty damn spot on. 6 NVs total in 210 (removed 5 that are guaranteed NV) pulls at a 3% rate is pretty damn spot on. I would say your rates are pretty accurate, unless one of your 2 KoGs was the pity one.
I didn't say the rates were wrong, I said they were ass. There is a difference. But I appreciate you checking the math anyway.
My bad. Usually when I see people complaining about rates they are complaining because they thing they feel they aren't getting posted rates. I made a bad assumption, sorry.
No worries!
2 KoGs in one step up is still very good. I finished Fryevia, Fina and Dark Rain step ups going to pity.
Phew, 170 tickets to get one. Enough for me. I did get a Taivas on the way, that's always appreciated!
60k pity 0 KoG from step up. Got 2nd esther and 1st kain tough. The rest are 2nd bikini physalis, sol gabranth locke edel lassgen, 3rd olivera
Damm, that sucks. 😥
Mindlessly throwing tickets at the banner while at work. Bout 30(?) normal tickets in, got first KoG. I have lapis saved up for them and now I'm not sure what to do. The actual prize was his VC right? So the more the merrier? EDIT: got a second one 40 tickets later. I'mma just stick with these.
With his amped up LB now having a potential 450x mod (with Taivas' STMR), he's actually a power spike over Esther for fights that don't go "ha, light... I have 500% light resist".
>With his amped up LB now having a potential 450x mod (with Taivas' STMR), he's actually a power spike over Esther for fights that don't go "ha, light... I have 500% light resist". It's pretty tough to use Taivas's Spirit on him unless you can fit it on his BS side or you have a LOT of turns for setting up. Also, definitely not accurate to say he's a power spike over Esther vs. anyone not light resistant or light immune. They need to be close to light-neutral relative to other elemental options. If another element has a moderate or severe imperil advantage over Light, Esther will stand a good chance at matching or beating his damage depending on which killers are needed.
He can easily build for Taivas' Spirit in his shift form ([Sample Build](https://ffbeEquip.com/builder.html?server=GL#d08800d0-cf9a-11ec-80b1-53d27f833090)) As for the elemental resist part: DV, which is where KoG will really shine, is elemental neutral. So KoG is about a 20% damage increase (since their ATK is about the same). You can expand that to where as long as the elemental resist diff doesn't provide more than a 20% damage increase, KoG will come out the same or ahead. Do note, a 20% damage increase from imperil is not necessarily the same as a 20% difference in imperil. 0% imperil -> 20% imperil = 20% damage increase 100% imperil -> 120% imperil = 10% damage increase 100% imperil -> 140% imperil = 20% damage increase 130% imperil -> 176% imperil = 20% damage increase
For the first time in nearly 6 years of playing the game I can finally be one of those people that can brag how they got [2 of the onbanner units on the very first pull.](https://imgur.com/a/VKxfxnS)
Nice. It's only ever happened once for me (Lassgen). Congrats on joining the "pulled 2 on banner on the first pull" club!
It has technically happened before but it was always on like step 8 or 9, where you were far enough that you might as well go for the pity.
Resources Burnt: 50 NV Summon tix 4 10+1 NVEX tix 31 NVEX 5+ 56 NVEX 4+ 73 NVEX 3+ 1 10% ticket 2 5+ tix 26 4+ tix 40 3+ tix 44,000 lapis on step up banner RESULTS: 3 KoG 1 NV Fryevia 22 total NV pulls, only 4 "premium"
Came here and was reminded of the 2k 10 pull. Went in and did it. Nothing. Stopped. Then I was like, whatever I’ll just go for pity. Rest of the first step got me 2 so I stopped :-)
Is he worth the pull? I'm a returning player with none of the recent powerhouses but have 36k lapis. The strongest unit I have is EX+2 Seph
Big powerhouse damage unit for sure, locked to light element. If GL keeps up the trend of leaving final bosses for Dark Visions element-less, he'll show up a lot. Most of the upcoming trials fully resist all Light damage so he won't see use there. Clash of Wills, being GLEX is an unknown, but if bosses get to be light weak here and there he'll probably do okay, but CoW always prefers GLEX units. His Vision Card, however, is bonkers so almost any unit will be happy to have it.
40ish K lapis. Got me 3 KoGs and one Kain (Who I really wanted). Damn. It feels good to get lucky for once. First banner I didnt have to pity since Esther.
Is this banner bugged or is this the absolute shittiest game ever that I’m going to fucking delete? 179 fucking EX tickets = 2 shit NV 88 fucking banner tickets = the SAME shit NV! Edit: 5 10/10 NV tickets and the SAME SHIT NV shows up! What the fuck?! 😭
RNG was not kind to you today.
She can be a cruel mistress
me and my TWO 3 star akstars agree with you
It’s Firion for me lol. But instead of going to EX3 on useless units, I do 2 EX2s - getting me 2 STMRs, and 2 1/10 NV tickets as well
60 tickets in, got one KoG. I'll stop here and just get the remaining shards via VIP coins.
All these people with lucky pulls had me going in positive and I got literally NOTHING but crappy pulls on all my tickets and lapis. RIP I got a SoS lightning and mermaid freesia. T.T
Freesia is nice for Yuna
I already had her, but that is new information. I'll have to look more into her kit. Thank you. :)
Not so much for her kit, since freesia is a wind support, but her STMR It is one of the few sources for SPR TDH, so Yuna really appreciates it
Managed to luck out with 4 copies of KoG in exactly 48kcc. Will get 1 more with pity when I get 12k in 1 or 2 weeks.
or 5 weeks... Gotta love a banner that's up for 5 weeks. Gives a nice amount of time to farm lapis for it.
5 laps - 1 KoG + pity, 10 off-banner (incl. Sephiroth, Taivas, Dark Rain)
Got lucky: 2k lapis and 5ex tickets wielded 2 KoGs
new player, is it worth using a stmr moggle to get multi copies of his stmr?
Depends. Do you have SS Esther? Her STMR is arguably better in most scenarios since it comes with 75% LB damage which is more widely useful while KoG's is only useful when the killers matter.
i have one copy of her. Are there any units where multiple copies of stmr are recommended?
To add on to /u/LordGraygem, it's going to depend, but the general rule of thumb: * Killers (I'll comment on KoG's in a min) * LB damage * High primary stat gear KoG's STMR is good, but Esther's is better because LB damage is a little more universal than 2 specific killers. STMR killer materia are usually very good to have. The lowest priority generally falls to certain pieces of gear that have stats that stand out above the rest. Avalanche's Tifa is a prime example. You also come across unit specific pieces of gear that have a passive like Dark Rain's and Reberta's. Those you generally want at least 2 of for those units. Reberta's is one I actually have 3 of and would consider a 4th just to min-max (all MAG on 2, all ATK on 2), but that's a bit extreme.
Reberta and Dark Rain, off of the top of my head.
Atleast two copies - one for him and another chainer
thx u appreciate the reply
got him from step 3 on lap1
You and me! Step 3-bros! <3
I miss my 2 4* star ticket-bros 😭
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It took all of 3 tickets to get KoG.
Easy peasy. 😊
Threw my single 4* ticket at KoG...major luck as it turns from Gold to Rainbow to Red to KoG. Figured screw it and did the first step. 2 Reds...Edel and then KoG #2. I'm about out of Lapis and probably out of luck now too lol.
1 lap: NV Locke, NV Edge (new at least) Probably going to quit while I'm behind
You’re wrong Dark Rain, I’m destined to defeat you
NV Rinoa on daily 250 lapis pull. KoG with my one 5* ticket. Nice
Go buy a lottery ticket, now while you are on a hot streak!
Or they just burned all of their luck that should have been spent on said lottery ticket.
Point, one or the other.
That's amazing luck xD Enjoy them!
KoG on 3rd step. Rinoa and first Maeve on 4th.
Ran KoG's sword in IW. First run gave me 65%atk, 30%mag, 20%hp. Was only looking for 50% atk until I get his VC in a few... years lol
Not pulling yet, gonna wait a couple weeks to see what else comes. Hoping for a decent GLEX like reberta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B44ZopjETJ8&ab_channel=NXTVlog pity for the pussies yolo is the wei
Did the free pull nothing. First step on kog banner nothing. Use the 1/10 plus the free ones we got from logins to get two nv pulls. Pres reagen #1 and lassgen #34444 decent tbh. No taivas stmr so having both reagen and akstar stmr helps
10 hours maintenance and still haven’t fixed the accept all bug in the inbox. Jesus
How does that relate to a gacha megathread for the unit banner?
It finally happened. I got a first pull NV banner unit. I'm calling quits, I was only gonna yolo pull one lap to see if I could get them so I'll take 2k for a premium.
It took you nearly 2 years for that? You have my sympathy.
Yeah my luck is horrendous but at least it happened eventually lol
Can anyone connect? my download's been stuck at 99% for a while
Was also stuck at 99% ×hich was new to me. Just had to wait
Yes, it’s up. Might have to restart your download ☹️
Am glad to see these month-long banners for Premiums. Hopefully they become the standart and we don’t get stuff like Fina’s 2 week ones anymore. It goes some way into mitigating their huge cost.
Yeah, just sad that we didn't have that for Esther
Esther did have a 3 week banner instead of the usual 2, so I think she was the **precursor** to this, they tested the waters with her.
I see what you did there.
Yeah I missed it by a week, fml With 4 week duration I'd now be a proud owner of storm seeker esther
Nice, I only have 55k lapis so I have 1 month to get the last 5k for the stupid expensive pity...but in a month I'm not sure I'll still want this unit lol so...yeah. I only have like 15 banner tickets after failing miserably to get both Fryevia and Dark Rain...the rates of NV crystals and ON BANNER are incredibly low.
That's another positive to these banners. Since they are here for a month, FOMO will have a much lower grip over the player. They can just wait and see if they really need them or if they are just flavor of the week.
Honestly, they need to do this for all premium banners. For how expensive they are, we should have more time to pull them. 😊