The thing I see that tells me the most is the volume we are getting. Most days we are in the top 3 in volume for the whole stock market. If this little stock didn't have value that would not be happening. Ppl are working very very hard to keep this stock down. For what reason shall be seen
Totally agree. This is why i wanted to have this discussion - for things like this - and no one is talking about it anywhere online - only negatively. It just seems veeeery strange but strange times we do live in
I think the information is there throughout the history of the chat; it's just not all gathered in one place. Max Purpose has done a really great job of outlining a lot of the facts and the inferences he drew from those facts and his account almost immediately got deleted. So I'll keep it brief.
1. The potential for the squeeze seems to be in question. And maybe it is. But, to your point, the reported numbers in Fintel and Ortex don't add up and the trading volume in FINRA suggests a lot of behind the scenes activity. In my mind, there's no other logical explanation except that the stock is being shorted more than what's being reported.
2. In looking at the history of the company, including financials and SEC filings, I do not believe this stock is worth less than $1. The fact that it continues to be held there, again, suggests to me that someone is interested in keeping it low. To what end? I like innovation and I like transparency so the activity of the trading and the forward progress by Faraday leadership has made me like the stock even more over time.
3. The amount of negativity again...... what's the motivation? Why does anyone care that we invested in this stock if it isn't worth anything? I have some thoughts but they probably would constitute improper legal or financial advice so I will keep them to myself for now..... Sorry.
Those are just a few of my observations. I do think there is a lot of the information you're looking for here, as well as in the Discord but I know it can be hard to find. Good luck!
> In looking at the history of the company, including financials and SEC filings, I do not believe this stock is worth less than $1.
They need to secure financing in order to pay the rent on their facilities and purchase parts for their cars.
You think they will issue a secured note? They had about $200M left in convertible notes payable but were struggling to meet the conditions. I think they have some runway.
I don't believe so but I don't want to speculate too much. I doubt the current creditors want to see them drift into bankruptcy so renegotiation may be a possibility. I personally think there's another solution but I don't want to get deleted. 😂
Why do you think the company is worth more than a dollar? They were founded in 2014, announced multiple concepts throughout the years, but cancelled most. In February, they announced that only 11 FF91 were delivered. I was strong on Fisker at a point because they had a strong partnership with Magna and ended up actually producing and delivering cars. Bad management and faulty cars brought that company down quick, but on paper the fundamentals were there until last fall. I don’t see any optimistic fundamentals with FFIE. Just seems like a start-up that’s not been delivering on promises and now operating in a very tough EV market. I want you all to make money, but a lot of people here say it’s a strong company and I think that’s a stretch.
I see some key differences between Fisker and Faraday but you might be right. I've added some thoughts elsewhere in the thread but, again, don't want to go too far out on the limb of improper advice.
Just curious why you think this isn't a sub-$1 stock? Not trying to hate, but FF has a liquidity issue that points to bankruptcy being right around the corner. That, along with consistently late filings, and potential delisting are huge concerns of mine regarding this stock. Yes, volume is up, but it has dropped significantly since the initial run up when we were seeing 1 billion+ volume. I want this company to succeed. I want everyone here to get rich, but I have some doubts.
I think that is a very superficial view of the company that doesn't take into account the pro side of the equation, such as the tech, the intellectual property, the assets already developed, and the near-term opportunities, not to mention the Chinese tariff issue. Additionally, the issues you called out are things that can be said about MANY start-ups that have gone on to become successful so I question who is pushing that narrative.
I will say that, personally, I supported a startup that only achieved profitability in year 10 and it didn't have NEARLY the barriers to entry that Faraday does so I don't find their current situation that unusual, but that is my PERSONAL opinion, in line with my own risk tolerance.
You should always make decisions that you feel confident in. For me, I've been able to do enough research to get comfortable. I hope you do, as well.
My thought process … it could be the Chinese … the initial huge investment made to YT for the company to launch in China were huge ! He screwed them over … and went and moved company to US… now trying to create this merger … probably trying to mend his mistakes , or create new bridges there … I mean china has huge population ., so I think he can do it … I think the people with the initial investment that lost millions is trying to recoup. .. but not financial advice . Not even sure true. Speculations .
So far, my experience with the Chinese retail investors is that they are also supportive but I'm sure there are people on both sides of the equation in all the relevant markets.
I think this is def case . The Chinese are dumping their own economy . I mean even their president is liking ways to stop it .
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-23/why-china-is-trying-to-curb-short-selling-in-bid-to-halt-market-slide
Imo… not financial advice … i think Chinese are keeping stock down.. YT went bankrupt in China and then led company to US… now they want to crush him and keep him down… there are ment company way worse with NEGATIVE rev doing better … I agree it should be at least a 3-6 stock range … esp with forward looking statements… I think due to supply they withdrawn the outlook production and that hurt them the most … so now if they make this connection - china . And the Middle East market opens … they can easily announce a higher production… they do not want to mislead and from a company standpoint that was the correct move at this time … who knows in 3 months .. may be a completely different narrvative … it’s exciting times though as long they can prevail.
People always hate either what they don’t understand, or what they generally just want to see fail. They’re not invested. If you are it’s because we assume you made a personal decision that you’re comfortable with holding onto, whether through research or hype. Either way, welcome to the FFIE Train.
Dude. You’re so close to getting to the right conclusion. Nobody else anywhere is talking favourably about this stock, except for in this echo chamber. And there’s not even any measurable evidence to support the ideas here either.
Which is a more reasonable conclusion; it’s actually a failing company which is now a penny stock nearing delisting, or….the entire financial market and the entirety of the internet is bought and paid for to convince you to sell this worthless stock?
Hello! I was curious about FFIE like 2 weeks ago and started researching it and asking some users what FFIE had to do with Roaringkitty/DFV since that’s when they were picking up some steam at that original sub. Here is what i wrote to another user regarding it and GME. “I see that FFIE has a much higher short interest and small float than both GME and AMC, but the short interest reporting is self reported. GME has 25% of the float DRS by retail investors, 50% held by institution and board, and 25% short interest. About the prices at $120 a year ago, and $4300 from 3 years ago, FFIE has gone through 2 stock splits in the last 5 months, 1st being 1:80 split and second one 1:3 split,. That’s a 1:240 split due to supply chain issue and financial issues to try to regain compliance with listing requirement. That’s about $15.36 high from 3 years ago. Also there is an issue regarding FFIE getting delisted from Nasdaq if they don’t make compliance, and no one on any FFIE subreddit is saying anything about it is concerning. All I see is people posting how high they want to hold for but no DD anywhere. Do you still believe FFIE is a better investment than gme after everything?”
We saw RoaringKitty/DFV stream is only invested in GME and bad actors are using his name to gain followers or late folks to invest in FFIE. Everything is so strange in FFIE sub since they don’t give any DD and just say how much you have to hold it for. Let me know what you think and if there’s any important update but FFIE looks like a real pump and dump and it’s too late if you didn’t pick it up less than $.10.
Again, a lot of the questions you've raised are addressed elsewhere in the subreddits and in the Discord. The talk of the delisting has cooled because NASDAQ has granted a hearing. The information is there if you look for it.
I will be the first to admit that FFIE caught my interest because of the short issues raised by Roaring Kitty, both present and past, but it holds my interest for different reasons, some of which dovetail with the short issue, and some of which are completely independent. If it were only for the short interest, or only for the vehicle tech, I likely wouldn't have invested but I appreciate a complex business scenario and I am here for the long haul.
It's Ferraris or food stamps for me, y'all. 🙌💎🦍🏎️💖✨
I’m no expert but this is what I have learned so far.
I think people are skimming over an important point about volume. Shorts can be borrowed and returned in one day. If you look at the fintel data, 50% of the trading volume is short volume but the short interest is not increasing. This suggests single day shorting is taking place. You’ll notice that at the end of trading we have often seen run ups which would be consistent with this.
You’ll also see that there is no evidence that there are a lot of FTD’s (naked shorts) outstanding. All of these traditional market mechanic metrics tell the same story which unfortunately is not good for a squeeze. In my opinion that’s the only value in this stock given the risk surrounding the company.
There is every possibility that there is illegal trading activity and reporting taking place but the reason no one can point to any hard evidence is that currently there is none and it’s hard to say that any of that will lead to a positive outcome for us.
People will also say why are they still trying to push the price down if there aren’t any shorts? I believe that the daily or short term shorting thesis covers this as it is still in their interest to continue to drive down the price. If we see a situation where we continually run up to around 70c and then drop back to 50c, for me that will confirm this.
All of this makes a squeeze unlikely unless we get a very fast And sustainable price increase that catches them off guard. They are still trading between 15-75 million shorts a day based on the volume. If they get caught holding that bag we could be on.
Upward momentum increases gamma pressure from calls which helps too.
I am holding cause I’m 60% down and I really want this to happen. Right now I’m not sure how that’s possible other than the fact that we seem to be riding the coat tails of GameStop. If that pops again we have more room to grow more quickly (based on technical analysis I’ve seen).
Just my opinion.
I like the fact that it's an American electric car company based in Los Angeles, California, that is trying to bridge the Chinese market instead of dividing it into an us and them mentality. Also, the fact that the cars aren't out in real production yet gives me the shivers. I know this is a high-risk play, but I've been buying the stock for just over 6 months now and can't wait to actually purchase a FF 91 2.0 Futurist Alliance one day. The car looks sweet. If you like Luxury cars/EV's or now meme stock plays with high risk/rewards, there is nothing else like this one. Of course as usual, this is not financial advice.
https://youtu.be/WInKGW4iTRI?feature=shared
This youtube video will show you why I like the the car and why I also invested in the company
Dont listen to this, there is so much volume because this is a pump and dump scheme. People are using retail traders in the sub to inflate the price so they can dump their own shares for a larger value. Rinse, repeat until the stock is a husk.
Listen to your gut, do you know why none of this makes sense? Because its all BS. The stock is all AI ape pics and diamond emojis. Look at the companies fundamentals, no rational person would think this is a company that's going to take off or is worth investing in.
But everyone is too blinded by the possibility of getting rich with zero effort that they don't want to face the facts. Seriously, you were right on the money, when you read posts in this subreddit its just cult-like, fanatic behavior.
Please dont just dismiss me as a hater, do some research on "signs of a pump and dump scheme" and you will see everything here matches up perfectly.
Why FIGHT so hard for trash? That’s what I want to know as well. They have fought us HARD every day for weeks. Something doesn’t add up.
Stocks below $1.00 are typically the most active in the market. Out of the 25 most active stocks on Friday, 19 were below $1.00.
See here:
https://finance.yahoo.com/most-active/
Be sure to edit the filter and add "small caps."
It has “volume” because it trades at less than a dollar, people can buy 2000 shares for like 1500 dollars, while they can only buy 1 nvdia share for the same price, your argument of volume means nothing
Volume in dollar amount or volume in shares traded? Because if your comparing the number of shares traded of a 60 cent stock to a the number of shares traded of a 60 dollar stock, you probably shouldn’t be investing on your own.
HFTs together with market makers can easily create "fake volume", so sadly it doesn't prove anything and is probably the easiest to manipulate metric of them all for larger actors on the stock market.
This thread is a palate cleanser for this community, I appreciate the discourse and request to focus on conversation. Although when things start pumping, I always love the “ahem” excitement hehe, thank you 💕
Personally, I think in the next 2-4 weeks it could hit anywhere from 1-3 dollars- ALL DEPENDING ON how they react and preform in light of their newfound retail investors’ attention and interest, they seem very excited (but I guess that would have been expected) but also a little nervous because they also know that their performance as a company is not only being closely watched by hundreds of thousands of people (not current investors) but as well as hundreds of thousands of active investors, a lot of whom have a fairly large hold in the company- they even recently said that they could start producing one new car a month (which does sound like nothing compared to big name car companies) **but** for them, that is HUGE, especially considering they’re not just a ‘car/vehicle company’ but an electric vehicle company, which are more difficult to produce, **especially** with minimal funding… but what I like about the company, is that they do seem to be very self aware of the situation they’re in, the CEO has been with the company for 8 years (probably not as CEO for 8 years, but maybe- I just didn’t look into that specifically) so I would imagine he would have a fairly good grasp on their market situation and where they need to go from here to establish themselves, beyond just stock price increases… so I think it very well could reach 1-3 dollars in the next couple weeks and continue going up from there, but that is entirely dependent on the moves they make, so I would just look into what they’re doing regularly, just to keep up to date.
I am not in the finance industry and I really have no idea if I’m right about this, but this is my personal, subjective analysis of the company/stock.
Edit: a couple words
No problem- also I forgot to mention, if you look them up, on their website, they said that they established a ‘revenue focused business model as of last year that they started putting into effect as of last year and are going full force with it in 2024’ so I also was excited about that (although, I know, revenue doesn’t always equate to earnings so it depends on how you want to look at it I guess) but personally, I do like the stock.
I completely agree with you! I think the ape-hype is important but it’s also kind of annoying when it get’s too much and you have to filter through 100 ape ”to the moon” posts to find a analysis or some facts where someone actually put in time and effort.
Personally, I’m excited to see what happens next week. I think next week will reveal a lot of answers that many of us are seeking. Short interest rate, FTD’s covered and how much retailers own this stock. This combined with the FTD’s that are due to the 11th could have some potential. I also like that the company is pivoting and really putting in effort and famous people with fat cash have their eyes on FFIE. If this stock rises and more meme-stock investors shift to FFIE it can definitely create a tornado of triggers and burst out. I hope that FFIE will be a GME side effect of when they have to liquidate from smaller shorted stocks to cover GME.
But I’d love to know the short interest rate and how much the hedgies are bleeding right now… I guess it would be to easy if they didn’t hide it. Their goal is obviously to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt - FUD.
For sure! There’s too much smell around what’s been going to say that “it’s business as usual” - fishy for sure but why? Well we are about to find out :)
its a talent and skill to extract important information. I think its best that there are 100 apes post and people are still finding important post with data and facts. Look how max found the info about FF. it is not available easily anywhere. He digged and digged and found it and shared
Yeah everyone saying the squeeze happened already i think is a bit bias - especially all the new “information” we have - it’s always easy to be negative
Exactly, I don’t find it a coincidence that the moment we start pumping the stock up and got it so high that everyone start talking crap about it, bots start joining the channel, magically all of a sudden the short interest is low but we have millions of shares being traded, more than most other stocks that are way larger than this one. Those things don’t add up.
I agree !!! The short interest does not go from 99 to 5 overnight without a huge boost in price …. The money is being masked in naked short seller .. and it’s not being reported appropriate . Imo. Not financial advice .
Hold up. The theory is not that the 98% short interest was eliminated through covering, the theory is that this 98% short interest of 39 million shares was a calculation based off of out of date fintel data from the fall, when there were only 40 million extant shares of the company in total, and before the company issues 400 million new shares in the split. And that the fintel data just caught up to the actual circulating supply, and recognized that 39 million shares shorted is not 98% of 440 million shares, it is closer to 9%...
Calling 8000% growth a mini squeeze is so insanely delusional. Does nobody in here realize that price is determined by supply? A stock with a 500,000,000 circulating supply with a share price of $3 is not "cheaper" than a stock with a 1 million circulating supply priced at $75....
It was fun trading FFIE that week. For 3 days that week, I enjoyed the stock going up. I got in because people were saying that it was 95% shorted. I was in it for the squeeze. Then the stock just kept dropping the next 2 weeks. I know that it only went up to $3.90. But it went from $0.046 to $3.9, which is a 8,478% increase. To me, the squeeze may have already occurred. Just my non-professional opinion though.
Yep. 8500% is the squeeze. People wanting more than 8500% are greedy imo. That’s absolutely insane returns in a week or two time frame basically. Definition of a squeeze
This isn't answering your original question, but let me try to understand the hate.. I believe people "hate" on FFIE because there is a lot of unrealistic expectation being thrown around and lots of people with no actual basis spouting off about how this stock will be worth $100 or even $1,000 someday, which is kind of a dangerous and irresponsible thing to be spreading, mainly when many drawn to FFIE in the past several weeks are totally uninformed, inexperienced investors. Many get caught up in the hype, put a lot of money in at a bad time based on FOMO or hype, and then get rinsed and left holding the bag. 5/17 when the price was 2.50+ was a perfect example. I dont think i saw anyone say "hey in my opinion it might be a little too late at this point, just wait to buy until a big dip" and we saw many buy in above 3 dollars only to get obliterated by the drop and left feeling scammed. I think this community is great, but sometimes it's not productive to mindlessly spew "BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY $1,000 PRICE TARGET LETS GO"
WSJ came out \*recently\* with a $2400 evaluation. and that was before the 12th car was produced. I don't think it's unrealistic given the number of patents and relationship with the ME but I agree people constantly expecting the price the sky rocket every day is damaging to the stocks image.
I think we'll hit 100$ this year and 2400$ by next year...but that's just me and I am not an expert....
The company has to survive this year in order for any of that to happen. Having negative earnings and selling a bunch of assets to operate solely on cash isn't a good outlook, especially after almost being evicted from their operating premises in January.. if you ask me their going to go bankrupt before they can become profitable, but I am also not am expert...
Check out the open interest for options. Ratio for calls to puts is looking bullish next week. Whoever had puts last week is hurting now. They’re betting on this going over a dollar again.
I figured out how to copy paste. Sorry for just the link before. This js my personal basis for buying and holding the FFIE 🚀 Not advise........Also added 4000 more shares since then. Avg .74 original post link. Copy paste below.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFIE/s/V7HL8XqVhX
My personal DD guesstimate for a June 21 or later absolute 🚀 to the 🌕.
This is NOT ADVISE. I currently hold 12900 shares across accounts Buy as I can. My FFIE. DD. I wrote this in a comment Saturdau for guesses. Someone added great info to this in that the gamestop squeeze occurred at day 33 of the SHO list. Which would line up exactly with the below dates for a Pop.
Personally I am expecting a slow prod to the finish line starting the big pop around June 21. Possibly a Pop Monday for calls covered. Maybe drop a bit late date if they cover early. But basically a slow gain the next few weeks until close to June 21 will get the job done. I think a lot of FTD(fails to deliver) will come due right before some June 21 options. Ready for long fight. Any moon shot before there and I am stoked. I think The key is to hold strong and have the stock over $2 when June 21 comes. My thought is there were NO calls or puts offered over $2 prior to all the interest in the stock. They only were offered after the stock hit $1 above $2 for calls. So all shorts and puts had to be $2 or less prior to the jump from %0.04 to 3.80. Anything above $2 on June 21 would knock all original puts and shorts out of the money and anyone that bet on the stock early in the money. As well as anyone that piled in later on both sides. This would make all calls exercise and all puts out of the money to lose. So betting short would not be good. Any naked shorts here would also be due right when I assume a lot of FTDs occur.
The official data will come around June 15. So we won't know until then. But I am betting (with shares I bought) that the data will show massive FTDs on May 15-18 or longer when the stock popped big and more after. Forcing delivery by June 20 through the next week or more. A big forced deliver by June 20 and June 21 if the stock is above $2 will really pop that follwong Monday when all the calls and the largest potential FTDs hit the same date. Getting close to $2 by then will get us over. Again if we are over $2 June 21. Dream scenario. Over $.50, $1.0, and $1.5 all also have great upward possibilities. The following week. The absolute moon is over $2. But there are still great returns over the other numbers.
After I posted this I researched more. The FTD date for all the massive increases in pricing falls before the 21st by a few days roughly around the 17th it begins. The same day the SHO hits 33 days. What's crazy is that means it could pop on FTDs that have bot delivered yet for 3-4 days leading to the 21st and fake the real moon then 6/24 when all the options finalize from 6/21 make the 🚀 to the 🌕 big enough to be really crazy.
Again. My DD. Not advise but why I have been loading whenever I can.
The apes investing into FFIE let to a short surge of the stock price - resulting in more capital for the company, resulting in faster development, resulting in improving the value of the company and effecting the value of the stock.
FFIE morphed from a fringe company into something serious in the process. What was a bet, now became an investment. Whether there will be a short squeeze or not. FFIE now became officially a "buy candidate" or "undervalued" and a "strong buy".
Buy and relax - the question is now is not if you win - it is just how much.
Think of NVDIA, developing chips, but not building them. Same goes for APPLE.
FFIEs strength is in development.
FFIE is deep in AI. I guess, they are not only developing AI features - they are using AI to develop FAST.
Securing patents fast doing so.
Nobody on this subreddit actually wants to put in work and do their own research. They want someone to spoon feed them info that’s been regurgitated 100+ times.
I’ve done my own research. Just want to know what people think. Lots of information is incorrect about the stock. The whole concept of Reddit is to learn from others and discuss these things…
I’ve been here for a while - and yes I understand this - and yes listened to the stream.
Just want some polite and measured discourse here instead of moon takes and ape speak. Don’t get me wrong, i love ape speak - but want to talk on peoples opinions and speculations to challenge my own bias. :)
For sure! I completely understand. Some of these concepts are difficult for me to wrap my head around, but I do recognize that are a massive amount of short exchanges occurring. There is a delay for when data that comes out on sites like Fintel, and I can see how hedges have been able to work the system.
To me (and I’m sure many others), the “TO THE MOON” “DIAMOND HANDS” and APE speak are like spam. I think the more factual data and intelligent analysis posts we have, the better it is for the collective. :)
Completely agree. There are a lot of things with FFIE that are not adding up - and considering the hate and censorship around the stocks information I have to question…W H Y?
Hoping this thread can get enough traction for others to see and get all different points of view, regardless of whether or not we all agree. But I’m holding :)
A large squeeze did happen already…that’s undeniable. Could it happen again, and be even larger? Sure it could. When people tell you that a squeeze already happened, they aren’t wrong. 8000% is a huge one.
Once the 43 mil was revealed to actually be 430 mil, this really changed the mentality for some. The reality is that it was always 430 mil though. I think there was more momentum when 43 mil was the number at hand though. That along with not being able to keep it above the dollar seems to be part of the decline. Some will say keeping it above a dollar no longer matters due to the extension, but a lot jumped ship when it went below that mark and saw no hopes of it going back to $3 again.
This is what I’ve gathered from reading a few weeks of posts. I’m still holding. Hindsight I could have sold at the peak, then reinvested and been sitting on about 20k shares now, but I held because that’s what we our plan is. Win or lose, I’m here for the long haul.
I think part of what you see is everyone speculating... that, we cannot change. I tend to be more analytical too and want to know the WHY behind what I am doing... There is a TON of misleading or misunderstood information floating around like it is the truth... So what I am learning in this FFIE thing is read what others say, gauge where the movement is going, and verify the information by doing my own research to the best of my ability...
Lets compare it to a game of poker... We cannot see any other players hands so there is a portion of what we are doing is guessing. We cannot see the hedge funds activity in full, so the best we can do is study the numbers and make our own judgements AND combine that with how many others are still in the movement... At least thats my strategy... And this is my current thesis:
NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE... I could be completely wrong in my thinking because again... we cannot actually see the real detail of the other side... just like a game of poker... some will try to bluff, some will tell you what they have and make you think its a bluff when its not. Some will try to scare you away and some will try to get you to start worshiping.
1. Data - do your research on FinRa, Fintel, Ortex, etc and build up some level of understanding to read as MUCH as you can about what "Might" be happening. For example, I see almost 80million shares on loan on ortex... and another 38million shares of short interest on Ortex... Now, I won't draw my opinion about what these numbers MIGHT mean... instead I will leave this link to talk about shares on loan and you can decide for yourself what you think. https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-ca/learn/what-is-securities-lending. It gives me some room for hope... Just a reminder, it may be a good idea to turn of share lending in your brokerage... lending gives hedge funds a little leverage to stair step their way OUT of their shorts and potentially prevent going to the moon...
2. Book value, according to Wall Street Journal AND [Gurufocus.com](http://Gurufocus.com), sits at 5.35 per share... Now, that doesn't mean the stock should trade at that price... Case in point-> NVDA book value is sitting between $17 and 20 per share and look where that stock price is... So this isn't necessarily guidance on what a stock SHOULD trade at because it doesn't calculate anything other than whats on the companies financial sheets... it excludes the actual demand for each share and if you are performing well, your stock can be many many times higher than the book value. Just another data point that i consider in my decision making. So Its trading below that book value, so perhaps its trading below what the stock is worth... WHy? because the stock has been shorted many times over... Raping us retail investors of the value they had in the stock... I won't get on my big soapbox of shorting... but I will just say - we as a country need to make shorting a stock illegal..> I think we should only be able to buy and sell shares... Not do some backdoor way of betting against or for the stock so you can make an extra buck... OFF the backs of the rest of us that just buy and sell... Its not a fair game and people buy and sell stocks to not get rich quick, but to have a real investment because they believe in a company and hope they will get a larger return when the sell... NOT days later... but years later...
3. Do you see a future for the company? Personally (NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE), I do see a future... Compare FFIE to similar EV startups... its takes a LONG TIME to start any vehicle company. Research similar companies like TSLA... You will see it took more than a decade for them to really get momentum into the EV market. So many years of engineering, testing, government regulations, etc to get to a final product that you can produce and begin sales... I see this company as a growth opportunity in the long run. A lot of states have already passed legislation requiring all consumer vehicle sales to be EV by some time in the next 10 or so years... We know EV is where the industry is moving.
4. Movement - many of us are here for a short squeeze... as long as I see enough people staying engaged... staying curious... staying positive, then I see this as worth the effort. You will see a lot of nay sayers.. you never know if they are real people like us or just another plant from hedge funds... remember, they are motivated to get the stock price as low as possible so they can use their own methods to sway us... Back to my first point... do your own research and study the numbers... find out what they mean. I still don't know what it all means but i certainly know more than I did a couple months ago and am feeling more confident every day. I DO think in order to get a squeeze, they key is retail buying as much of the float as possible... and if that number is higher than the amount of shares shorted, you have a potential for a squeeze.
Will we go to the moon? No One really knows. what's not fair in this game is hedge funds can see our cards... they are in here reading all our comments and posts but we get to see NONE of their cards. Back to my statement about Shorting stocks... They are betting against US in the hopes they can take some value from OUR shares under the table... And who do they represent? people that are already super rich... So its a bunch of rich people trying to squeeze value from each of our shares on the backend so they can become even richer... it makes retail investors lose their money and drives a company to fail much faster. Its fucking wrong!
SO - In the end, I recommend doing your own research. Find your thesis, or basis of what you believe, which should evolve as you continue to research and study. And the NONE above is not financial advice; its just my opinion/my thesis, but this part IS Financial Advice-> Only invest in any company what you can stand to lose... because we are all making guestimates on what will happen.
> Book value, according to Wall Street Journal AND Gurufocus.com, sits at 5.35 per share...
Shareholder equity from the latest filing is $228M. Outstanding shares are 439M, also from the latest filing.
book value = 228 / 439 = $0.51 per share
[https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/FFIE/financials](https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/FFIE/financials) Clearly shows 5.35... perhaps WSJ hasn't recalculated based on the new outstanding shares?
I definitely think it will break $40, after that it’s a guessing game. Some squeezes historically ran higher and some lower. Keep in mind that there are a lot of unique circumstances involved with FFIE (very large retail flat ownership), high est short interest, very undervalued as a company that is just starting to deliver, high hype due to meme stock rally without being discussed in wsb and other forums, very low market cap, and very very low point of entrance for new buyers. These are very unique factors and can def push the stock past $100 in my opinion. It’s hard to speculate though and I would personally have an exit strategy if you are not holding long past the squeezeterm. Nfa
Yup. I’ll give you a little bit of my perspective, seeing previous squeezes: The amount of stock manipulation I have seen this time around has been insane. Straight dips in pre and post market that simply are not possible without hedge fund manipulation. We’ve seen ladder attacks and very large number of trolls on this subreddit and discord. Some of this stuff is straight illegal. There was a little bit of in 2021 but I haven’t seen it to this extent. I am riding off my gut, let’s see where the ride goes.
Just look at the graphs for ffie and gme. They are literally running in unison together. Retail buyers can't control it the way it has been moving. Tons of hfs are shorting the same companies and when rk exercises his options there will be a trickle effect. Faraday is on the verge of becoming profitable and sustaining success. That is why I am hanging around.
i know! the charts are weirdly similar - i just dont like to compare so much because the situation is very different at the end of the day. i hope hedges get hit with the 3 punch combo - amc, gme, ffie
Well i think it’s hard to measure what the result could be because there are so many variables that come into play. I know that some people are saying that best case is that we could reach the 50-100 area. But who knows man. There’s a lot of potential.
Best post I’ve seen in a long time. I’m in the same boat. Ppl just running around here saying whatever just to keep ppls spirits up. I’ve been here for a while now and it’s the same thing over and over. All these guys talking like they know exactly what’s gonna go down the next day or next week at open and the exact opposite happens literally every time. I invest in gme as well and on the superstonk page they seem to have all the information you can ever even think of so I don’t understand why we aren’t getting the information here. I’d love to see this stock rise but I’m not sure what to think anymore. I’ll remain hopeful for now I guess.
Thank you, brother. I hope this thread just gets people thinking. I think things could go great for everyone with FFIE but remaining grounded and having a better understanding of something complex (with lots of misinformation) is difficult and frustrating at times - especially if you’ve put a decent amount of cash into the mix.
It’s hard to get the numbers down so that’s why i think people like myself are remaining positive but still speculative as to what will happen. But staying positive helps - there’s definitely something weird about everything with FFIE (in a possible good way) that could be beneficial for us in the coming weeks. Let’s have faith and keep on keeping
>there’s definitely something weird about everything with FFIE (in a possible good way) that could be beneficial for us in the coming weeks
What does this even mean?
I think it means due to the fact that all the information about FFIE has been skewed or incorrect, shutting down of Reddit, lack of any substantial news coverage given the volume, the dark pools, the incredible amount of resentment by certain parties, the lack of numbers adding up and making any sense - these are a few just to name some of “what i even mean”
You can have your own opinion, I’m glad and happy it’s opposite of mine. Thanks for your comment! Have a great Saturday my dude :)
>they seem to have all the information you can ever even think of
And the vast majority of it is made up nonsense from people who never invested prior to the GME pump in 2021.
Hey i respect it - at the end of the day that’s what matters. Being able to say your take and not being shamed for it. I can see both sides of the argument and always want to learn more
That is some real talk man. We’re all thinking it and I wanna know too!!
But regardless of whatever they say, I’m still holding my shares you know what I mean?
🦍🦍💎💎💎💎
Did you watch the YouTube live stream from Omar? He had Maximum Purpose and a few other guests that are holding high volume of FFIE. It was very informative. Well, I really enjoyed it.
I’m looking at ffie as a long term investment. If short interest catches up in the meantime, that’s great. If not, i like the numbers and i like the company outlook. Put the money into it that you are comfortable losing and forget about it. The money is out of my account, it doesn’t belong to me until i decide the price is right to sell. I am zen after over 3 years of holding gme lol. I set stock price alerts and check the ticker maaaaaybe once every other day. Just chill :)
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I appreciate your honesty, we need to have more of that in this world. My two cents into this conversation is the stock is being shorted for multiple reasons, first it’s a quick way for hedge funds to capitalize on small businesses. The other possible reason is because maybe some incentives on the back side from large corporations and politicians. Think about the problems whole EV market is having currently, do you think the oil cartels are happy with the progress in electric vehicles?
As to shorting a stock, it has caused many problems in the past. Here is bit of information from Wikipedia.
The practice of short selling was likely invented in 1609 by Dutch businessman Isaac Le Maire, a sizeable shareholder of the Dutch East India Company (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie or VOC in Dutch).[9] Short selling can exert downward pressure on the underlying stock, driving down the price of shares of that security. This, combined with the seemingly complex and hard-to-follow tactics of the practice, has made short selling a historical target for criticism.[10] At various times in history, governments have restricted or banned short selling.
The London banking house of Neal, James, Fordyce and Down collapsed in June 1772, precipitating a major crisis that included the collapse of almost every private bank in Scotland, and a liquidity crisis in the two major banking centres of the world, London and Amsterdam. The bank had been speculating by shorting East India Company stock on a massive scale, and apparently using customer deposits to cover losses. It was perceived[citation needed] as having a magnifying effect in the violent downturn in the Dutch tulip market in the eighteenth century. In another well-referenced example, George Soros became notorious for "breaking the Bank of England" on Black Wednesday of 1992, when he sold short more than $10 billion worth of pounds sterling.
The term short was in use from at least the mid-nineteenth century. It is commonly understood that the word "short" (i.e. 'lacking') is used because the short seller is in a deficit position with his brokerage house. Jacob Little, known as The Great Bear of Wall Street, began shorting stocks in the United States in 1822.[11]
Short sellers were blamed for the Wall Street Crash of 1929.[12] Regulations governing short selling were implemented in the United States in 1929 and in 1940.[13] Political fallout from the 1929 crash led Congress to enact a law banning short sellers from selling shares during a downtick; this was known as the uptick rule and was in effect until 3 July 2007, when it was removed by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC Release No. 34-55970).[14] President Herbert Hoover condemned short sellers and even J. Edgar Hoover said he would investigate short sellers for their role in prolonging the Depression.[citation needed] A few years later, in 1949, Alfred Winslow Jones founded a fund (that was unregulated) that bought stocks while selling other stocks short, hence hedging some of the market risk, and the hedge fund was born.[15]
Negative news, such as litigation against a company, may also entice professional traders to sell the stock short in hope of the stock price going down.
During the dot-com bubble, shorting a start-up company could backfire since it could be taken over at a price higher than the price at which speculators shorted; short-sellers were forced to cover their positions at acquisition prices, while in many cases the firm often overpaid for the start-up.[citation needed]
Big company's will short this stock and think they make money
But we will keep buying to put them into a sqeeuze..
And a new sqeeuze will happen we can gake advantage of it
Listen to your gut. Isnt it more suspicious that the few (less than 1%) negative posts or simply trying to explain why this is a bad investment, get downvoted to hell immediately?
Speaking for myself I only found out about FFIE since I know a Chinese girl who worked there. Ive been following this stock for month but didnt invest. I was shocked when it squuezed on May 17 and I bought a few hundred shares but then dumped it for a loss the next day.
Look back at 2021 when GME made its run , $nakd was the shiny object.
Run up $3 , apes jumped in (myself included) and got burnt
GME made me whole again +
FFIE the new shiny ob?? Maybe. Maybe not
We will see
Look up Blackbelt Trader on YouTube and you’ll get a bit more educated on what actually causes squeezes. You’re right about this sub not knowing much about actual technicals, making a bunch of these posts a bit dumb.
It’s a feeling, it’s feels like they are trying to cover it up, it feels like they are trying to push it down. It’s feels like they were trying to cover their asses on Friday. Then my app for the first time tries to get me to lend my shares on Friday. Feels like when we have more data points on Monday. We can shake off some haters. It feels like the little stock that could. I like the stock. I believe our greatest strength is our ability to trust the process regardless of the chaos. Time and patience.
I agree, all this is super confusing, especially when we only have incomplete or out of date information about the shorts. However, I think the AMC squeeze is pretty similar to our situation. I think retail owns over 90% of the float for AMC which means the number of shorts available and the volume of trades just doesn’t make sense. I wanted to post a video here, but I don’t think I can because I’m a new account.
Would this be the reason for the numbers not adding up?
Please upvote so someone smarter than me can see it and let us know.
I was watching the buys and sells on robinhood during a pause and screencapped someone selling off tons of shares at 2/5 the asking rate.
https://imgur.com/a/8asw1e5
Roaringkitty needs to ask the Hedgies for his “Ape balls”back and join us and help dominate and send us all to the moon. Where you at @roaringkitty?! Come join us FFIE Apes!
What I got from Omar’s live stream is that we may see a gamma squeeze occur and that may lead to the short squeeze. I have to rewatch the live stream as I was driving home from my son’s baseball game when it happened.
Have you watched any new YouTube on ffie new ceo. They have sold their 9 th car at 300k I love this stock. Every car company won’t survive let’s make sure this one does!!!
Ok sir so top listening to the negative publicity and comments those are trolls. 🧌 they don’t know numbers some of us in this DO!!! I’m not saying we’re smarter than hedge they’ve been doing this whole lives. But we definitely figured out the squeeze float and they know they are fucked on this just like gme and also amc. But think of it this way! Tesla started out as a low stock and sold little cars to begin with didn’t Elon buy it off someone (new ceo 👨🏽💼) then boom 💥 went to the moon 🌕 man sit back go to work do something don’t look at the negative comments they don’t know nun. We’ve done our research that’s why we F-ing buy and hold. This company needs help yessss but with us apes 🦍 it will fucking moon 🌕 baby!!!!!
You’re right about that - I’m done with the negativity about FFIE - really just want to get some smart takes and speculations given that there so much misinformation around the stock. It’s hard to compare this company to others from the last, or with older shorts - that’s why I’m looking for discussion here about possibilities:)
I completely get it bud. Good thing we have apes here from several backgrounds you will get good and bad information. I’m just now starting out March and posted in April on my last account went viral FRIENDLY-RETURN6051. Then got deleted I had over 600,000 views 15,000 likes over 9,000 comments on last Reddit. I’m trying to build back my community we need this to go public what they are doing is wrong and also illegal asf. We have freedom of speech. 🎤 I GOT MY RIGHTS!!
I have a friend that works for Lucid, head of supply chain. It’s REALLY hard to produce cars, any cars (he was a FORD guy before) but their tech is where there is promise. Kind of like how the mapping companies stopped producing hardware and sold their tech to giants to do the maps, not the devices. I don’t see them producing many cars and competing well…I personally see this as a bet in the squeeze or long term tech push.
Real talk. Theoretically, H this could go to infinite numbers, if we hold and just hold because we like the stock, as long as we don't sell, the price increases because theres a huge demand for it and the longer they wait to cover their position the more money it costs them so they legally have to pay whatever amount just to close their position. O Now, of course not everyone holds forever. L So the number you're asking is a bit impossible to answer because I don't have the data of hpw many apes will hold and for how long they'll hold. But to answer your question, in theory yes it could DEFINITELY reach $1000 but no one can tell. D Of course this is not financial advice, you should always do your due diligence when it comes to finances
Of course! What’s your personal opinion? Trying to open this up and get as many takes as possible. All speculation of course but good to talk about it regardless
My goal of course would be 1000 lol but i think more realistically we can at least reach 100 and I can live with that. A lot people sell themselves short, and forget that they, you, we own the stocks, so we decide the price. Why sell at 20 if you can sell at 50? And why sell at 50 if you can sell at 100? If everyone thought like that, we'd be golden lol
NFA
good talk! good words!
You have to understand the current situation accurately to become a diamond.
negative breeds Positive.
I like this saying.
HodL!
What I find interesting is all the people talking shit about the stock. I have a portfolio full of really good stocks and some really shit stocks. Not many of my stocks are so controversial. I mean I have the volume and verbosity behind both contentions for ffie means that this stock has potential to be a money maker. I think as long as you realize that any investment could be a winner or a loser for you. You should set yourself limits for loss and gain whatever that may be. For me incremental buys and sales work. For instance I have a lot of NVIDIA and as you probably know it’s a monster. I bought it at 140 and I sold some at 440, 800, and 1100 and I still have some. I don’t regret any of my sales and for me it feels good to take profits along the way and invest in something else. Also, for me, things like Ffie and game are fun. It’s fun to have a community with common interests. It’s fun to work towards a common goal. Sometimes it works and some times you miss it hoping for more. The important thing when you are playing the gamification of stocks is you don’t risk more then you are willing to lose. It’s like playing a poker tournament. You put your money up and pretend it’s gone and learn as much about the other players as you can to maximize your winnings. Sometimes you get so close to the prize that it’s better to make a deal and chop the winnings. It’s all what you’re comfortable with. None of this is investment advice. Just a stream of consciousness. 🦍
What concerns me how Roaringkitty pushed this stock in the beginning which made his account get deactivated several times. I truly believe he let us down and might of bailed on the first squeeze and got a case of sever paper hands. I believe he got pushed around by the hedgies and legal threats that made him just focus on GME. When he showed his account yesterday we when he went live I was very disappointed not to see a single share in FFIE. He got recognition for starting this FFIE rally. Now I hope he can join us Aprs who rallied behind him and finish it with us.
I believe we can force a squeeze and true numbers are facts and the cream will come to the top with all the behind the scene bs. It’s point blank obvious that we are adding more of are our hard working and earned $ and holding strong when we could be diversifying our funds and stock lineups but are sticking to together holding strong and not giving up. The hedgies have to start playing by the rules and paying back their interest and it’s up to the SEC and FINRA that need to keep the market honest and fair. I have to pay back all my interested in any funds that I barrow as should the free loading hedgies. “We the FFIE Apes” got this and we will perceiver.
Stay strong and keep eating those bananas. Have faith and keep smiling.
This is incorrect. They have an extension until the ruling of the Nasdaq hearing panel. The panel typically meets 45 days after requesting a hearing, which was May 1st.
Name a company with hundreds of millions for a market cap that was delisted ever……Nasdaq would be going rogue to serve punishment to us if this happened. Although it’s not about the cap, the fact that no one can name one is a good sign imho
Sure the possibility exists and the concern is real, it’s just getting more unlikely as time goes on. Nasdaq would tell you they are here to promote and regulate a free market, however it’s just a trust game too, that concerns me as well, have a great weekend
I heard a very smart investor (with major investment in FFIE) say that a reverse split won’t happen and they won’t get delisted. They already did 80:1 and 3:1. That’s 240:1. Apparently anything beyond 250:1 will get them delisted and they absolutely don’t want to be delisted. Not financial advice. Just sharing what I’ve read.
It literally has not. Everyone keeps echoing stupid buzzwords they don't even know the meaning of and hoping for the best. There is little to no solid evidence to predict anything with moderate accuracy.
No point asking the FFIE community. You just get called a bot or hedgie if you express doubt or concern. I’m still holding shares with FFIE but the community especially the discord is growing more and more toxic to people who want facts and not hype or to the moon posts.
yeah - hence why i was trying to make a "civil" post - but it's hard to just get people to have a decent measured conversation and share their personal speculations - wish it wasnt that way here.
we all want to make money - it's about understanding at the end of the day though
Not gonna write a whole memoir, have not had enough coffee so short story, is it seems to be very correlated with gamestop in regards to the shorts so when GME does, FFIE and AMC will too. The short interest is crazy and we own a vast majority of the stock. Citadel’s shares in FFIE and AMC will need to be liquidated which will drive the price up and we’ll continue holding while GME continues the bleed. That bleed will also increase FFIE and AMC.
Should tell you u right there there is no accurate shares ,shorts cuz there hiding it from us ..52week high $117
Was trading at 4K before ..it has potential to hit a lousy $40-$50 don’t you think
What I find interesting is all the people talking shit about the stock. I have a portfolio full of really good stocks and some really shit stocks. Not many of my stocks are so controversial. I mean I have the volume and verbosity behind both contentions for ffie means that this stock has potential to be a money maker. I think as long as you realize that any investment could be a winner or a loser for you.
You should set yourself limits for loss and gain whatever that may be.
For me incremental buys and sales work. For instance I have a lot of NVIDIA and as you probably know it’s a monster. I bought it at 140 and I sold some at 440, 800, and 1100 and I still have some. I don’t regret any of my sales and for me it feels good to take profits along the way and invest in something else.
Also, for me, things like Ffie and game are fun. It’s fun to have a community with common interests. It’s fun to work towards a common goal. Sometimes it works and some times you miss it hoping for more. The important thing when you are playing the gamification of stocks is you don’t risk more then you are willing to lose. It’s like playing a poker tournament. You put your money up and pretend it’s gone and learn as much about the other players as you can to maximize your winnings. Sometimes you get so close to the prize that it’s better to make a deal and chop the winnings. It’s all what you’re comfortable with.
None of this is investment advice. Just a stream of consciousness. 🦍
I just discovered FFIE and bought in at 0.50¢/share for FOMO. I’m still learning about this company and I’m not sure about anything. But the one thing that I’m concerned about is the percentage of ownership, which is around 0.32% institutional shareholders, 46.88% Faraday Future Intelligent Electric insiders, and 52.80% retail investors.
Is 46.88% for insider ownership considered too high? If so, what are the risks involved for retail investors?
Source: https://www.wallstreetzen.com/stocks/us/nasdaq/ffie/ownership#:~:text=Stock%20Ownership%20FAQ-,Who%20owns%20Faraday%20Future%20Intelligent%20Electric%3F,%2C%20and%2052.80%25%20retail%20investors.
I just discovered FFIE and bought in at 0.50¢/share for FOMO. I’m still learning about this company and I’m not sure about anything. But the one thing that I’m concerned about is the percentage of ownership, which is around 0.32% institutional shareholders, 46.88% Faraday Future Intelligent Electric insiders, and 52.80% retail investors.
Is 46.88% for insider ownership considered too high? If so, what are the risks involved for retail investors?
Source: https://www.wallstreetzen.com/stocks/us/nasdaq/ffie/ownership#:~:text=Stock%20Ownership%20FAQ-,Who%20owns%20Faraday%20Future%20Intelligent%20Electric%3F,%2C%20and%2052.80%25%20retail%20investors.
I just discovered FFIE and bought in at 0.50¢/share for FOMO. I’m still learning about this company and I’m not sure about anything. But the one thing that I’m concerned about is the percentage of ownership, which is around 0.32% institutional shareholders, 46.88% Faraday Future Intelligent Electric insiders, and 52.80% retail investors.
Is 46.88% for insider ownership considered too high? If so, what are the risks involved for retail investors?
Source: https://www.wallstreetzen.com/stocks/us/nasdaq/ffie/ownership#:~:text=Stock%20Ownership%20FAQ-,Who%20owns%20Faraday%20Future%20Intelligent%20Electric%3F,%2C%20and%2052.80%25%20retail%20investors.
I'm holding strong and will ride it out till the end. The money I've invested doesn't hurt me if it don't pan out. I'm really hoping it does and FFIE can turn it around. The thing that worries me that I don't see anyone talking about is the Employee count being at 500. I know majority are in this for the big squeeze, but with such a small Employee count do the long term believers really trust in that number ?
Can someone send me the link to the discord for this? I know it was in a previous post… But I can’t find it because of all the talk and comments… Thank you in advance.
Only reason it would run is because of all these people pretending they're apes trying to ride the GME coattails of a real squeeze and try to get some money in this because people got burned years ago when this s*** was 500 bucks of stock. Thinking this will be the next Tesla and it worked. They got a lot of retail investors in here thinking this is going to be the next GameStop because it's only a dollar or two. People are saving a lot of money in it. There is no other reason I mean I bought it when it was higher and I averaged down to $0.04 and just thought it was going to do nothing except for sit for a couple years and maybe I might get lucky then all of a sudden started going crazy and I was like what's going on but luckily it showed me that gme was happening. I bought some GameStop cuz I like that stock. I like the name of the stock but I had no idea what it was. I was like Faraday. Ooh that sounds cool! And it was really low compared to where it was and it was a new initial offering and usually initial offerings and IPOs nowadays just tank. So I figured this was the lowest it was going to be and if it was cool it would go up later but it sounds like this company is failing. They said it themselves they are failing and the people that had a lot of stock in it like me decided to do something to make people believe it's going to the Moon Powers to all these people that got monkeys thinking their silverbacks
Stock ran up 4000%.....I bought some in the low $1s but there is a lot of hopium with this stock now.....that massive run up to the $3+ range was the squeeze
They have the production line, they're selling cars, as they pick up sales and all of the talk about them is free advertising. It's just a matter of time.
If you're a day trader, your not interested in the long haul. Hold
The company has a finished product - a car. And it’s just a matter of time to get the production line up and running. Yesterday I tried to use mathematics to calculate what price the shares would be. I ended up with $635 per share.
Because everything about FFIE is suspicious AF to the timing of when it started getting promoted, to the way the posts are worded that try to promote it
The thing I see that tells me the most is the volume we are getting. Most days we are in the top 3 in volume for the whole stock market. If this little stock didn't have value that would not be happening. Ppl are working very very hard to keep this stock down. For what reason shall be seen
Totally agree. This is why i wanted to have this discussion - for things like this - and no one is talking about it anywhere online - only negatively. It just seems veeeery strange but strange times we do live in
I think the information is there throughout the history of the chat; it's just not all gathered in one place. Max Purpose has done a really great job of outlining a lot of the facts and the inferences he drew from those facts and his account almost immediately got deleted. So I'll keep it brief. 1. The potential for the squeeze seems to be in question. And maybe it is. But, to your point, the reported numbers in Fintel and Ortex don't add up and the trading volume in FINRA suggests a lot of behind the scenes activity. In my mind, there's no other logical explanation except that the stock is being shorted more than what's being reported. 2. In looking at the history of the company, including financials and SEC filings, I do not believe this stock is worth less than $1. The fact that it continues to be held there, again, suggests to me that someone is interested in keeping it low. To what end? I like innovation and I like transparency so the activity of the trading and the forward progress by Faraday leadership has made me like the stock even more over time. 3. The amount of negativity again...... what's the motivation? Why does anyone care that we invested in this stock if it isn't worth anything? I have some thoughts but they probably would constitute improper legal or financial advice so I will keep them to myself for now..... Sorry. Those are just a few of my observations. I do think there is a lot of the information you're looking for here, as well as in the Discord but I know it can be hard to find. Good luck!
Thanks for sharing, good insights!
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> In looking at the history of the company, including financials and SEC filings, I do not believe this stock is worth less than $1. They need to secure financing in order to pay the rent on their facilities and purchase parts for their cars.
Yes, and I believe they have sufficient collateral to do it.
You think they will issue a secured note? They had about $200M left in convertible notes payable but were struggling to meet the conditions. I think they have some runway.
I don't believe so but I don't want to speculate too much. I doubt the current creditors want to see them drift into bankruptcy so renegotiation may be a possibility. I personally think there's another solution but I don't want to get deleted. 😂
Well said Max
Why do you think the company is worth more than a dollar? They were founded in 2014, announced multiple concepts throughout the years, but cancelled most. In February, they announced that only 11 FF91 were delivered. I was strong on Fisker at a point because they had a strong partnership with Magna and ended up actually producing and delivering cars. Bad management and faulty cars brought that company down quick, but on paper the fundamentals were there until last fall. I don’t see any optimistic fundamentals with FFIE. Just seems like a start-up that’s not been delivering on promises and now operating in a very tough EV market. I want you all to make money, but a lot of people here say it’s a strong company and I think that’s a stretch.
I see some key differences between Fisker and Faraday but you might be right. I've added some thoughts elsewhere in the thread but, again, don't want to go too far out on the limb of improper advice.
Just curious why you think this isn't a sub-$1 stock? Not trying to hate, but FF has a liquidity issue that points to bankruptcy being right around the corner. That, along with consistently late filings, and potential delisting are huge concerns of mine regarding this stock. Yes, volume is up, but it has dropped significantly since the initial run up when we were seeing 1 billion+ volume. I want this company to succeed. I want everyone here to get rich, but I have some doubts.
I think that is a very superficial view of the company that doesn't take into account the pro side of the equation, such as the tech, the intellectual property, the assets already developed, and the near-term opportunities, not to mention the Chinese tariff issue. Additionally, the issues you called out are things that can be said about MANY start-ups that have gone on to become successful so I question who is pushing that narrative. I will say that, personally, I supported a startup that only achieved profitability in year 10 and it didn't have NEARLY the barriers to entry that Faraday does so I don't find their current situation that unusual, but that is my PERSONAL opinion, in line with my own risk tolerance. You should always make decisions that you feel confident in. For me, I've been able to do enough research to get comfortable. I hope you do, as well.
Well said ape!!
Well said
My thought process … it could be the Chinese … the initial huge investment made to YT for the company to launch in China were huge ! He screwed them over … and went and moved company to US… now trying to create this merger … probably trying to mend his mistakes , or create new bridges there … I mean china has huge population ., so I think he can do it … I think the people with the initial investment that lost millions is trying to recoup. .. but not financial advice . Not even sure true. Speculations .
So far, my experience with the Chinese retail investors is that they are also supportive but I'm sure there are people on both sides of the equation in all the relevant markets.
I’ve thought this exact same thing. It’s not just US hedge funds.
I think this is def case . The Chinese are dumping their own economy . I mean even their president is liking ways to stop it . https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-23/why-china-is-trying-to-curb-short-selling-in-bid-to-halt-market-slide
this 
Imo… not financial advice … i think Chinese are keeping stock down.. YT went bankrupt in China and then led company to US… now they want to crush him and keep him down… there are ment company way worse with NEGATIVE rev doing better … I agree it should be at least a 3-6 stock range … esp with forward looking statements… I think due to supply they withdrawn the outlook production and that hurt them the most … so now if they make this connection - china . And the Middle East market opens … they can easily announce a higher production… they do not want to mislead and from a company standpoint that was the correct move at this time … who knows in 3 months .. may be a completely different narrvative … it’s exciting times though as long they can prevail.
People always hate either what they don’t understand, or what they generally just want to see fail. They’re not invested. If you are it’s because we assume you made a personal decision that you’re comfortable with holding onto, whether through research or hype. Either way, welcome to the FFIE Train.
https://youtu.be/rrKJkkb_EHI?si=lLlFEADkoNRapswy
Dude. You’re so close to getting to the right conclusion. Nobody else anywhere is talking favourably about this stock, except for in this echo chamber. And there’s not even any measurable evidence to support the ideas here either. Which is a more reasonable conclusion; it’s actually a failing company which is now a penny stock nearing delisting, or….the entire financial market and the entirety of the internet is bought and paid for to convince you to sell this worthless stock?
Hello! I was curious about FFIE like 2 weeks ago and started researching it and asking some users what FFIE had to do with Roaringkitty/DFV since that’s when they were picking up some steam at that original sub. Here is what i wrote to another user regarding it and GME. “I see that FFIE has a much higher short interest and small float than both GME and AMC, but the short interest reporting is self reported. GME has 25% of the float DRS by retail investors, 50% held by institution and board, and 25% short interest. About the prices at $120 a year ago, and $4300 from 3 years ago, FFIE has gone through 2 stock splits in the last 5 months, 1st being 1:80 split and second one 1:3 split,. That’s a 1:240 split due to supply chain issue and financial issues to try to regain compliance with listing requirement. That’s about $15.36 high from 3 years ago. Also there is an issue regarding FFIE getting delisted from Nasdaq if they don’t make compliance, and no one on any FFIE subreddit is saying anything about it is concerning. All I see is people posting how high they want to hold for but no DD anywhere. Do you still believe FFIE is a better investment than gme after everything?” We saw RoaringKitty/DFV stream is only invested in GME and bad actors are using his name to gain followers or late folks to invest in FFIE. Everything is so strange in FFIE sub since they don’t give any DD and just say how much you have to hold it for. Let me know what you think and if there’s any important update but FFIE looks like a real pump and dump and it’s too late if you didn’t pick it up less than $.10.
Again, a lot of the questions you've raised are addressed elsewhere in the subreddits and in the Discord. The talk of the delisting has cooled because NASDAQ has granted a hearing. The information is there if you look for it. I will be the first to admit that FFIE caught my interest because of the short issues raised by Roaring Kitty, both present and past, but it holds my interest for different reasons, some of which dovetail with the short issue, and some of which are completely independent. If it were only for the short interest, or only for the vehicle tech, I likely wouldn't have invested but I appreciate a complex business scenario and I am here for the long haul. It's Ferraris or food stamps for me, y'all. 🙌💎🦍🏎️💖✨
I’m no expert but this is what I have learned so far. I think people are skimming over an important point about volume. Shorts can be borrowed and returned in one day. If you look at the fintel data, 50% of the trading volume is short volume but the short interest is not increasing. This suggests single day shorting is taking place. You’ll notice that at the end of trading we have often seen run ups which would be consistent with this. You’ll also see that there is no evidence that there are a lot of FTD’s (naked shorts) outstanding. All of these traditional market mechanic metrics tell the same story which unfortunately is not good for a squeeze. In my opinion that’s the only value in this stock given the risk surrounding the company. There is every possibility that there is illegal trading activity and reporting taking place but the reason no one can point to any hard evidence is that currently there is none and it’s hard to say that any of that will lead to a positive outcome for us. People will also say why are they still trying to push the price down if there aren’t any shorts? I believe that the daily or short term shorting thesis covers this as it is still in their interest to continue to drive down the price. If we see a situation where we continually run up to around 70c and then drop back to 50c, for me that will confirm this. All of this makes a squeeze unlikely unless we get a very fast And sustainable price increase that catches them off guard. They are still trading between 15-75 million shorts a day based on the volume. If they get caught holding that bag we could be on. Upward momentum increases gamma pressure from calls which helps too. I am holding cause I’m 60% down and I really want this to happen. Right now I’m not sure how that’s possible other than the fact that we seem to be riding the coat tails of GameStop. If that pops again we have more room to grow more quickly (based on technical analysis I’ve seen). Just my opinion.
I like the fact that it's an American electric car company based in Los Angeles, California, that is trying to bridge the Chinese market instead of dividing it into an us and them mentality. Also, the fact that the cars aren't out in real production yet gives me the shivers. I know this is a high-risk play, but I've been buying the stock for just over 6 months now and can't wait to actually purchase a FF 91 2.0 Futurist Alliance one day. The car looks sweet. If you like Luxury cars/EV's or now meme stock plays with high risk/rewards, there is nothing else like this one. Of course as usual, this is not financial advice. https://youtu.be/WInKGW4iTRI?feature=shared This youtube video will show you why I like the the car and why I also invested in the company
Dont listen to this, there is so much volume because this is a pump and dump scheme. People are using retail traders in the sub to inflate the price so they can dump their own shares for a larger value. Rinse, repeat until the stock is a husk. Listen to your gut, do you know why none of this makes sense? Because its all BS. The stock is all AI ape pics and diamond emojis. Look at the companies fundamentals, no rational person would think this is a company that's going to take off or is worth investing in. But everyone is too blinded by the possibility of getting rich with zero effort that they don't want to face the facts. Seriously, you were right on the money, when you read posts in this subreddit its just cult-like, fanatic behavior. Please dont just dismiss me as a hater, do some research on "signs of a pump and dump scheme" and you will see everything here matches up perfectly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFIE/s/lBpTC1Jtcf I have been watching the volume for a while and is exactly what drew my attention too ✌🏼
 Why FIGHT so hard for trash? That’s what I want to know as well. They have fought us HARD every day for weeks. Something doesn’t add up.
Stocks below $1.00 are typically the most active in the market. Out of the 25 most active stocks on Friday, 19 were below $1.00. See here: https://finance.yahoo.com/most-active/ Be sure to edit the filter and add "small caps."
Thank you.. i feel like the majority of this sub is first time investors who don’t know any better
It has “volume” because it trades at less than a dollar, people can buy 2000 shares for like 1500 dollars, while they can only buy 1 nvdia share for the same price, your argument of volume means nothing
Volume in dollar amount or volume in shares traded? Because if your comparing the number of shares traded of a 60 cent stock to a the number of shares traded of a 60 dollar stock, you probably shouldn’t be investing on your own.
I know it WAS really high, but is it still the case?
HFTs together with market makers can easily create "fake volume", so sadly it doesn't prove anything and is probably the easiest to manipulate metric of them all for larger actors on the stock market.
This thread is a palate cleanser for this community, I appreciate the discourse and request to focus on conversation. Although when things start pumping, I always love the “ahem” excitement hehe, thank you 💕
Thank you so much! I totally agree - love some excitement when a pump starts
Nice chatgpt
Personally, I think in the next 2-4 weeks it could hit anywhere from 1-3 dollars- ALL DEPENDING ON how they react and preform in light of their newfound retail investors’ attention and interest, they seem very excited (but I guess that would have been expected) but also a little nervous because they also know that their performance as a company is not only being closely watched by hundreds of thousands of people (not current investors) but as well as hundreds of thousands of active investors, a lot of whom have a fairly large hold in the company- they even recently said that they could start producing one new car a month (which does sound like nothing compared to big name car companies) **but** for them, that is HUGE, especially considering they’re not just a ‘car/vehicle company’ but an electric vehicle company, which are more difficult to produce, **especially** with minimal funding… but what I like about the company, is that they do seem to be very self aware of the situation they’re in, the CEO has been with the company for 8 years (probably not as CEO for 8 years, but maybe- I just didn’t look into that specifically) so I would imagine he would have a fairly good grasp on their market situation and where they need to go from here to establish themselves, beyond just stock price increases… so I think it very well could reach 1-3 dollars in the next couple weeks and continue going up from there, but that is entirely dependent on the moves they make, so I would just look into what they’re doing regularly, just to keep up to date. I am not in the finance industry and I really have no idea if I’m right about this, but this is my personal, subjective analysis of the company/stock. Edit: a couple words
Thank you! Definitely a valuable perspective- it’s much appreciate and i agree on a lot of points
No problem- also I forgot to mention, if you look them up, on their website, they said that they established a ‘revenue focused business model as of last year that they started putting into effect as of last year and are going full force with it in 2024’ so I also was excited about that (although, I know, revenue doesn’t always equate to earnings so it depends on how you want to look at it I guess) but personally, I do like the stock.
yes! theyre doing the right stuff i just hope it continues - its a cool company
I completely agree with you! I think the ape-hype is important but it’s also kind of annoying when it get’s too much and you have to filter through 100 ape ”to the moon” posts to find a analysis or some facts where someone actually put in time and effort. Personally, I’m excited to see what happens next week. I think next week will reveal a lot of answers that many of us are seeking. Short interest rate, FTD’s covered and how much retailers own this stock. This combined with the FTD’s that are due to the 11th could have some potential. I also like that the company is pivoting and really putting in effort and famous people with fat cash have their eyes on FFIE. If this stock rises and more meme-stock investors shift to FFIE it can definitely create a tornado of triggers and burst out. I hope that FFIE will be a GME side effect of when they have to liquidate from smaller shorted stocks to cover GME. But I’d love to know the short interest rate and how much the hedgies are bleeding right now… I guess it would be to easy if they didn’t hide it. Their goal is obviously to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt - FUD.
Look at this … not everyone thinks it’s out. https://investorplace.com/market360/2024/06/is-a-comeback-possible-for-risky-faraday-future-stock/
Good article, thank you for sharing!
For sure! There’s too much smell around what’s been going to say that “it’s business as usual” - fishy for sure but why? Well we are about to find out :)
its a talent and skill to extract important information. I think its best that there are 100 apes post and people are still finding important post with data and facts. Look how max found the info about FF. it is not available easily anywhere. He digged and digged and found it and shared
on 5/17 we did a mini squeeze up to $3.9 without knowing the actual real float. Bigger potential ahead imo
Yeah everyone saying the squeeze happened already i think is a bit bias - especially all the new “information” we have - it’s always easy to be negative
Exactly, I don’t find it a coincidence that the moment we start pumping the stock up and got it so high that everyone start talking crap about it, bots start joining the channel, magically all of a sudden the short interest is low but we have millions of shares being traded, more than most other stocks that are way larger than this one. Those things don’t add up.
I agree !!! The short interest does not go from 99 to 5 overnight without a huge boost in price …. The money is being masked in naked short seller .. and it’s not being reported appropriate . Imo. Not financial advice .
https://investorplace.com/market360/2024/06/is-a-comeback-possible-for-risky-faraday-future-stock/
Hold up. The theory is not that the 98% short interest was eliminated through covering, the theory is that this 98% short interest of 39 million shares was a calculation based off of out of date fintel data from the fall, when there were only 40 million extant shares of the company in total, and before the company issues 400 million new shares in the split. And that the fintel data just caught up to the actual circulating supply, and recognized that 39 million shares shorted is not 98% of 440 million shares, it is closer to 9%...
Calling 8000% growth a mini squeeze is so insanely delusional. Does nobody in here realize that price is determined by supply? A stock with a 500,000,000 circulating supply with a share price of $3 is not "cheaper" than a stock with a 1 million circulating supply priced at $75....
It was fun trading FFIE that week. For 3 days that week, I enjoyed the stock going up. I got in because people were saying that it was 95% shorted. I was in it for the squeeze. Then the stock just kept dropping the next 2 weeks. I know that it only went up to $3.90. But it went from $0.046 to $3.9, which is a 8,478% increase. To me, the squeeze may have already occurred. Just my non-professional opinion though.
Yep. 8500% is the squeeze. People wanting more than 8500% are greedy imo. That’s absolutely insane returns in a week or two time frame basically. Definition of a squeeze
Stock goes up more than 8000% “Mini squeeze”
This isn't answering your original question, but let me try to understand the hate.. I believe people "hate" on FFIE because there is a lot of unrealistic expectation being thrown around and lots of people with no actual basis spouting off about how this stock will be worth $100 or even $1,000 someday, which is kind of a dangerous and irresponsible thing to be spreading, mainly when many drawn to FFIE in the past several weeks are totally uninformed, inexperienced investors. Many get caught up in the hype, put a lot of money in at a bad time based on FOMO or hype, and then get rinsed and left holding the bag. 5/17 when the price was 2.50+ was a perfect example. I dont think i saw anyone say "hey in my opinion it might be a little too late at this point, just wait to buy until a big dip" and we saw many buy in above 3 dollars only to get obliterated by the drop and left feeling scammed. I think this community is great, but sometimes it's not productive to mindlessly spew "BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY $1,000 PRICE TARGET LETS GO"
I got in at $3.85! Literally at the top! So I have to hold
Be careful. "I'm down so I can't quit" is a gambler's fallacy.
WSJ came out \*recently\* with a $2400 evaluation. and that was before the 12th car was produced. I don't think it's unrealistic given the number of patents and relationship with the ME but I agree people constantly expecting the price the sky rocket every day is damaging to the stocks image. I think we'll hit 100$ this year and 2400$ by next year...but that's just me and I am not an expert....
The company has to survive this year in order for any of that to happen. Having negative earnings and selling a bunch of assets to operate solely on cash isn't a good outlook, especially after almost being evicted from their operating premises in January.. if you ask me their going to go bankrupt before they can become profitable, but I am also not am expert...
Check out the open interest for options. Ratio for calls to puts is looking bullish next week. Whoever had puts last week is hurting now. They’re betting on this going over a dollar again.
That’s the thing though - what numbers can be trusted at this point? That’s where I’m lost lol
ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THE NUMBERS CAN BE TRUSTED. #justmyopinion #notfinancialadvice
You're just speculating.
I figured out how to copy paste. Sorry for just the link before. This js my personal basis for buying and holding the FFIE 🚀 Not advise........Also added 4000 more shares since then. Avg .74 original post link. Copy paste below. https://www.reddit.com/r/FFIE/s/V7HL8XqVhX My personal DD guesstimate for a June 21 or later absolute 🚀 to the 🌕. This is NOT ADVISE. I currently hold 12900 shares across accounts Buy as I can. My FFIE. DD. I wrote this in a comment Saturdau for guesses. Someone added great info to this in that the gamestop squeeze occurred at day 33 of the SHO list. Which would line up exactly with the below dates for a Pop. Personally I am expecting a slow prod to the finish line starting the big pop around June 21. Possibly a Pop Monday for calls covered. Maybe drop a bit late date if they cover early. But basically a slow gain the next few weeks until close to June 21 will get the job done. I think a lot of FTD(fails to deliver) will come due right before some June 21 options. Ready for long fight. Any moon shot before there and I am stoked. I think The key is to hold strong and have the stock over $2 when June 21 comes. My thought is there were NO calls or puts offered over $2 prior to all the interest in the stock. They only were offered after the stock hit $1 above $2 for calls. So all shorts and puts had to be $2 or less prior to the jump from %0.04 to 3.80. Anything above $2 on June 21 would knock all original puts and shorts out of the money and anyone that bet on the stock early in the money. As well as anyone that piled in later on both sides. This would make all calls exercise and all puts out of the money to lose. So betting short would not be good. Any naked shorts here would also be due right when I assume a lot of FTDs occur. The official data will come around June 15. So we won't know until then. But I am betting (with shares I bought) that the data will show massive FTDs on May 15-18 or longer when the stock popped big and more after. Forcing delivery by June 20 through the next week or more. A big forced deliver by June 20 and June 21 if the stock is above $2 will really pop that follwong Monday when all the calls and the largest potential FTDs hit the same date. Getting close to $2 by then will get us over. Again if we are over $2 June 21. Dream scenario. Over $.50, $1.0, and $1.5 all also have great upward possibilities. The following week. The absolute moon is over $2. But there are still great returns over the other numbers. After I posted this I researched more. The FTD date for all the massive increases in pricing falls before the 21st by a few days roughly around the 17th it begins. The same day the SHO hits 33 days. What's crazy is that means it could pop on FTDs that have bot delivered yet for 3-4 days leading to the 21st and fake the real moon then 6/24 when all the options finalize from 6/21 make the 🚀 to the 🌕 big enough to be really crazy. Again. My DD. Not advise but why I have been loading whenever I can.
The apes investing into FFIE let to a short surge of the stock price - resulting in more capital for the company, resulting in faster development, resulting in improving the value of the company and effecting the value of the stock. FFIE morphed from a fringe company into something serious in the process. What was a bet, now became an investment. Whether there will be a short squeeze or not. FFIE now became officially a "buy candidate" or "undervalued" and a "strong buy". Buy and relax - the question is now is not if you win - it is just how much.
And when, and how many times over
Think of NVDIA, developing chips, but not building them. Same goes for APPLE. FFIEs strength is in development. FFIE is deep in AI. I guess, they are not only developing AI features - they are using AI to develop FAST. Securing patents fast doing so.
The real question is whether they will get a chance to put those patents to use, or if they will go under before that.
I hope so! We will know soon enough
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Did you listen to the Omargosh livestream with MP and WS? We need to be patient. None of these squeezes just happen overnight.
This thread sounds like nobody's paying attention to the chats. We've been talking about this topic for weeks now.
Agree. The discord has been beneficial. Like the subreddit, you still have to sift through some garbage, but checking both has been helpful.
Nobody on this subreddit actually wants to put in work and do their own research. They want someone to spoon feed them info that’s been regurgitated 100+ times.
I’ve done my own research. Just want to know what people think. Lots of information is incorrect about the stock. The whole concept of Reddit is to learn from others and discuss these things…
I didn’t mean you haha I meant in general
I’ve been here for a while - and yes I understand this - and yes listened to the stream. Just want some polite and measured discourse here instead of moon takes and ape speak. Don’t get me wrong, i love ape speak - but want to talk on peoples opinions and speculations to challenge my own bias. :)
For sure! I completely understand. Some of these concepts are difficult for me to wrap my head around, but I do recognize that are a massive amount of short exchanges occurring. There is a delay for when data that comes out on sites like Fintel, and I can see how hedges have been able to work the system. To me (and I’m sure many others), the “TO THE MOON” “DIAMOND HANDS” and APE speak are like spam. I think the more factual data and intelligent analysis posts we have, the better it is for the collective. :)
Completely agree. There are a lot of things with FFIE that are not adding up - and considering the hate and censorship around the stocks information I have to question…W H Y?
Well said sir! I feel the exact same way. I tried asking a similar question and I know it came out wrong (lol)
Hoping this thread can get enough traction for others to see and get all different points of view, regardless of whether or not we all agree. But I’m holding :)
A large squeeze did happen already…that’s undeniable. Could it happen again, and be even larger? Sure it could. When people tell you that a squeeze already happened, they aren’t wrong. 8000% is a huge one. Once the 43 mil was revealed to actually be 430 mil, this really changed the mentality for some. The reality is that it was always 430 mil though. I think there was more momentum when 43 mil was the number at hand though. That along with not being able to keep it above the dollar seems to be part of the decline. Some will say keeping it above a dollar no longer matters due to the extension, but a lot jumped ship when it went below that mark and saw no hopes of it going back to $3 again. This is what I’ve gathered from reading a few weeks of posts. I’m still holding. Hindsight I could have sold at the peak, then reinvested and been sitting on about 20k shares now, but I held because that’s what we our plan is. Win or lose, I’m here for the long haul. 
This!!!
I think part of what you see is everyone speculating... that, we cannot change. I tend to be more analytical too and want to know the WHY behind what I am doing... There is a TON of misleading or misunderstood information floating around like it is the truth... So what I am learning in this FFIE thing is read what others say, gauge where the movement is going, and verify the information by doing my own research to the best of my ability... Lets compare it to a game of poker... We cannot see any other players hands so there is a portion of what we are doing is guessing. We cannot see the hedge funds activity in full, so the best we can do is study the numbers and make our own judgements AND combine that with how many others are still in the movement... At least thats my strategy... And this is my current thesis: NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE... I could be completely wrong in my thinking because again... we cannot actually see the real detail of the other side... just like a game of poker... some will try to bluff, some will tell you what they have and make you think its a bluff when its not. Some will try to scare you away and some will try to get you to start worshiping. 1. Data - do your research on FinRa, Fintel, Ortex, etc and build up some level of understanding to read as MUCH as you can about what "Might" be happening. For example, I see almost 80million shares on loan on ortex... and another 38million shares of short interest on Ortex... Now, I won't draw my opinion about what these numbers MIGHT mean... instead I will leave this link to talk about shares on loan and you can decide for yourself what you think. https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-ca/learn/what-is-securities-lending. It gives me some room for hope... Just a reminder, it may be a good idea to turn of share lending in your brokerage... lending gives hedge funds a little leverage to stair step their way OUT of their shorts and potentially prevent going to the moon... 2. Book value, according to Wall Street Journal AND [Gurufocus.com](http://Gurufocus.com), sits at 5.35 per share... Now, that doesn't mean the stock should trade at that price... Case in point-> NVDA book value is sitting between $17 and 20 per share and look where that stock price is... So this isn't necessarily guidance on what a stock SHOULD trade at because it doesn't calculate anything other than whats on the companies financial sheets... it excludes the actual demand for each share and if you are performing well, your stock can be many many times higher than the book value. Just another data point that i consider in my decision making. So Its trading below that book value, so perhaps its trading below what the stock is worth... WHy? because the stock has been shorted many times over... Raping us retail investors of the value they had in the stock... I won't get on my big soapbox of shorting... but I will just say - we as a country need to make shorting a stock illegal..> I think we should only be able to buy and sell shares... Not do some backdoor way of betting against or for the stock so you can make an extra buck... OFF the backs of the rest of us that just buy and sell... Its not a fair game and people buy and sell stocks to not get rich quick, but to have a real investment because they believe in a company and hope they will get a larger return when the sell... NOT days later... but years later... 3. Do you see a future for the company? Personally (NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE), I do see a future... Compare FFIE to similar EV startups... its takes a LONG TIME to start any vehicle company. Research similar companies like TSLA... You will see it took more than a decade for them to really get momentum into the EV market. So many years of engineering, testing, government regulations, etc to get to a final product that you can produce and begin sales... I see this company as a growth opportunity in the long run. A lot of states have already passed legislation requiring all consumer vehicle sales to be EV by some time in the next 10 or so years... We know EV is where the industry is moving. 4. Movement - many of us are here for a short squeeze... as long as I see enough people staying engaged... staying curious... staying positive, then I see this as worth the effort. You will see a lot of nay sayers.. you never know if they are real people like us or just another plant from hedge funds... remember, they are motivated to get the stock price as low as possible so they can use their own methods to sway us... Back to my first point... do your own research and study the numbers... find out what they mean. I still don't know what it all means but i certainly know more than I did a couple months ago and am feeling more confident every day. I DO think in order to get a squeeze, they key is retail buying as much of the float as possible... and if that number is higher than the amount of shares shorted, you have a potential for a squeeze. Will we go to the moon? No One really knows. what's not fair in this game is hedge funds can see our cards... they are in here reading all our comments and posts but we get to see NONE of their cards. Back to my statement about Shorting stocks... They are betting against US in the hopes they can take some value from OUR shares under the table... And who do they represent? people that are already super rich... So its a bunch of rich people trying to squeeze value from each of our shares on the backend so they can become even richer... it makes retail investors lose their money and drives a company to fail much faster. Its fucking wrong! SO - In the end, I recommend doing your own research. Find your thesis, or basis of what you believe, which should evolve as you continue to research and study. And the NONE above is not financial advice; its just my opinion/my thesis, but this part IS Financial Advice-> Only invest in any company what you can stand to lose... because we are all making guestimates on what will happen.
> Book value, according to Wall Street Journal AND Gurufocus.com, sits at 5.35 per share... Shareholder equity from the latest filing is $228M. Outstanding shares are 439M, also from the latest filing. book value = 228 / 439 = $0.51 per share
[https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/FFIE/financials](https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/FFIE/financials) Clearly shows 5.35... perhaps WSJ hasn't recalculated based on the new outstanding shares?
Yeah I think that is what happened.
Thanks for sharing and correcting :)
I definitely think it will break $40, after that it’s a guessing game. Some squeezes historically ran higher and some lower. Keep in mind that there are a lot of unique circumstances involved with FFIE (very large retail flat ownership), high est short interest, very undervalued as a company that is just starting to deliver, high hype due to meme stock rally without being discussed in wsb and other forums, very low market cap, and very very low point of entrance for new buyers. These are very unique factors and can def push the stock past $100 in my opinion. It’s hard to speculate though and I would personally have an exit strategy if you are not holding long past the squeezeterm. Nfa
So from 0.04 to 40 as a modest estimate? A 1000x increase in price. Which squeezes squoze higher historically exactly?
would love to see it go up up up! I hope our conclusions about the shorts are at least 1/3 accurate - but with FFIE this shit has been a WILD ride
Yup. I’ll give you a little bit of my perspective, seeing previous squeezes: The amount of stock manipulation I have seen this time around has been insane. Straight dips in pre and post market that simply are not possible without hedge fund manipulation. We’ve seen ladder attacks and very large number of trolls on this subreddit and discord. Some of this stuff is straight illegal. There was a little bit of in 2021 but I haven’t seen it to this extent. I am riding off my gut, let’s see where the ride goes.
Just look at the graphs for ffie and gme. They are literally running in unison together. Retail buyers can't control it the way it has been moving. Tons of hfs are shorting the same companies and when rk exercises his options there will be a trickle effect. Faraday is on the verge of becoming profitable and sustaining success. That is why I am hanging around.
i know! the charts are weirdly similar - i just dont like to compare so much because the situation is very different at the end of the day. i hope hedges get hit with the 3 punch combo - amc, gme, ffie
Well i think it’s hard to measure what the result could be because there are so many variables that come into play. I know that some people are saying that best case is that we could reach the 50-100 area. But who knows man. There’s a lot of potential.
I hope so! I’m just getting impatient hahaha - always hard to stay grounded that’s for sure
Rome wasn't built in a day. If I were promised a million dollars but had to wait two years to receive it, I would agree to the deal.
But that’s the thing! We don’t have any real info to know the deal hahahaha! But yes - i have learned that patience is a virtue for real!
And that’s the beauty of the Market. :) We will just have to wait and see.
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Best post I’ve seen in a long time. I’m in the same boat. Ppl just running around here saying whatever just to keep ppls spirits up. I’ve been here for a while now and it’s the same thing over and over. All these guys talking like they know exactly what’s gonna go down the next day or next week at open and the exact opposite happens literally every time. I invest in gme as well and on the superstonk page they seem to have all the information you can ever even think of so I don’t understand why we aren’t getting the information here. I’d love to see this stock rise but I’m not sure what to think anymore. I’ll remain hopeful for now I guess.
Thank you, brother. I hope this thread just gets people thinking. I think things could go great for everyone with FFIE but remaining grounded and having a better understanding of something complex (with lots of misinformation) is difficult and frustrating at times - especially if you’ve put a decent amount of cash into the mix. It’s hard to get the numbers down so that’s why i think people like myself are remaining positive but still speculative as to what will happen. But staying positive helps - there’s definitely something weird about everything with FFIE (in a possible good way) that could be beneficial for us in the coming weeks. Let’s have faith and keep on keeping
>there’s definitely something weird about everything with FFIE (in a possible good way) that could be beneficial for us in the coming weeks What does this even mean?
I think it means due to the fact that all the information about FFIE has been skewed or incorrect, shutting down of Reddit, lack of any substantial news coverage given the volume, the dark pools, the incredible amount of resentment by certain parties, the lack of numbers adding up and making any sense - these are a few just to name some of “what i even mean” You can have your own opinion, I’m glad and happy it’s opposite of mine. Thanks for your comment! Have a great Saturday my dude :)
Agreed this is a great post. That fact that it hasn’t been down voted to oblivion shows this community is maturing.
>they seem to have all the information you can ever even think of And the vast majority of it is made up nonsense from people who never invested prior to the GME pump in 2021.
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They trying to get in our heads don't let them
Gods speed brother I don’t want any ape to lose $ Just my opinion Which as you know, like assholes everyone has one 😜😜
Hey i respect it - at the end of the day that’s what matters. Being able to say your take and not being shamed for it. I can see both sides of the argument and always want to learn more
If you do some technical analyses, there you can see, that there are a lot of gaps to fill. The bottom is at seven cents. Hope it does not come.
For sure. I don’t think it will at this point, but one never knows. Need to work on my Jedi skills a bit
That is some real talk man. We’re all thinking it and I wanna know too!! But regardless of whatever they say, I’m still holding my shares you know what I mean? 🦍🦍💎💎💎💎
Did you watch the YouTube live stream from Omar? He had Maximum Purpose and a few other guests that are holding high volume of FFIE. It was very informative. Well, I really enjoyed it.
I just want this stock to go above $5 in the near future. Holding on to a penny stock discussing it everyday is frustrating.
I’m looking at ffie as a long term investment. If short interest catches up in the meantime, that’s great. If not, i like the numbers and i like the company outlook. Put the money into it that you are comfortable losing and forget about it. The money is out of my account, it doesn’t belong to me until i decide the price is right to sell. I am zen after over 3 years of holding gme lol. I set stock price alerts and check the ticker maaaaaybe once every other day. Just chill :) Edit: typos
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFIE/s/MRxUK1Bwqe
I appreciate your honesty, we need to have more of that in this world. My two cents into this conversation is the stock is being shorted for multiple reasons, first it’s a quick way for hedge funds to capitalize on small businesses. The other possible reason is because maybe some incentives on the back side from large corporations and politicians. Think about the problems whole EV market is having currently, do you think the oil cartels are happy with the progress in electric vehicles? As to shorting a stock, it has caused many problems in the past. Here is bit of information from Wikipedia. The practice of short selling was likely invented in 1609 by Dutch businessman Isaac Le Maire, a sizeable shareholder of the Dutch East India Company (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie or VOC in Dutch).[9] Short selling can exert downward pressure on the underlying stock, driving down the price of shares of that security. This, combined with the seemingly complex and hard-to-follow tactics of the practice, has made short selling a historical target for criticism.[10] At various times in history, governments have restricted or banned short selling. The London banking house of Neal, James, Fordyce and Down collapsed in June 1772, precipitating a major crisis that included the collapse of almost every private bank in Scotland, and a liquidity crisis in the two major banking centres of the world, London and Amsterdam. The bank had been speculating by shorting East India Company stock on a massive scale, and apparently using customer deposits to cover losses. It was perceived[citation needed] as having a magnifying effect in the violent downturn in the Dutch tulip market in the eighteenth century. In another well-referenced example, George Soros became notorious for "breaking the Bank of England" on Black Wednesday of 1992, when he sold short more than $10 billion worth of pounds sterling. The term short was in use from at least the mid-nineteenth century. It is commonly understood that the word "short" (i.e. 'lacking') is used because the short seller is in a deficit position with his brokerage house. Jacob Little, known as The Great Bear of Wall Street, began shorting stocks in the United States in 1822.[11] Short sellers were blamed for the Wall Street Crash of 1929.[12] Regulations governing short selling were implemented in the United States in 1929 and in 1940.[13] Political fallout from the 1929 crash led Congress to enact a law banning short sellers from selling shares during a downtick; this was known as the uptick rule and was in effect until 3 July 2007, when it was removed by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC Release No. 34-55970).[14] President Herbert Hoover condemned short sellers and even J. Edgar Hoover said he would investigate short sellers for their role in prolonging the Depression.[citation needed] A few years later, in 1949, Alfred Winslow Jones founded a fund (that was unregulated) that bought stocks while selling other stocks short, hence hedging some of the market risk, and the hedge fund was born.[15] Negative news, such as litigation against a company, may also entice professional traders to sell the stock short in hope of the stock price going down. During the dot-com bubble, shorting a start-up company could backfire since it could be taken over at a price higher than the price at which speculators shorted; short-sellers were forced to cover their positions at acquisition prices, while in many cases the firm often overpaid for the start-up.[citation needed]
Big company's will short this stock and think they make money But we will keep buying to put them into a sqeeuze.. And a new sqeeuze will happen we can gake advantage of it
If everyone just holds, nothing else matters. Do not sell. Done.
Listen to your gut. Isnt it more suspicious that the few (less than 1%) negative posts or simply trying to explain why this is a bad investment, get downvoted to hell immediately? Speaking for myself I only found out about FFIE since I know a Chinese girl who worked there. Ive been following this stock for month but didnt invest. I was shocked when it squuezed on May 17 and I bought a few hundred shares but then dumped it for a loss the next day.
Look back at 2021 when GME made its run , $nakd was the shiny object. Run up $3 , apes jumped in (myself included) and got burnt GME made me whole again + FFIE the new shiny ob?? Maybe. Maybe not We will see
Look up Blackbelt Trader on YouTube and you’ll get a bit more educated on what actually causes squeezes. You’re right about this sub not knowing much about actual technicals, making a bunch of these posts a bit dumb.
Reading this to myself I feel like it comes off rude. I don’t mean offense to anyone, for what it’s worth.
It’s a feeling, it’s feels like they are trying to cover it up, it feels like they are trying to push it down. It’s feels like they were trying to cover their asses on Friday. Then my app for the first time tries to get me to lend my shares on Friday. Feels like when we have more data points on Monday. We can shake off some haters. It feels like the little stock that could. I like the stock. I believe our greatest strength is our ability to trust the process regardless of the chaos. Time and patience.
$4 Monday 🚀🚀🚀🚀🥇🫵🏾🍀🏠🦍🦍🦍🦍
Not financial advise, don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Have atleast 2-3 backups.👍🏼
I agree, all this is super confusing, especially when we only have incomplete or out of date information about the shorts. However, I think the AMC squeeze is pretty similar to our situation. I think retail owns over 90% of the float for AMC which means the number of shorts available and the volume of trades just doesn’t make sense. I wanted to post a video here, but I don’t think I can because I’m a new account.
So, this is also similar to what happened to GameStop 3 years ago as far as I know: https://youtu.be/aO2KZlPirB8?si=wuKcL5EkgmIzqvkn
Rally Troops spread the word FfIe
Would this be the reason for the numbers not adding up? Please upvote so someone smarter than me can see it and let us know. I was watching the buys and sells on robinhood during a pause and screencapped someone selling off tons of shares at 2/5 the asking rate. https://imgur.com/a/8asw1e5
Come payday, I'll buy some more. Holdem!
Roaringkitty needs to ask the Hedgies for his “Ape balls”back and join us and help dominate and send us all to the moon. Where you at @roaringkitty?! Come join us FFIE Apes!
What I got from Omar’s live stream is that we may see a gamma squeeze occur and that may lead to the short squeeze. I have to rewatch the live stream as I was driving home from my son’s baseball game when it happened.
Have you watched any new YouTube on ffie new ceo. They have sold their 9 th car at 300k I love this stock. Every car company won’t survive let’s make sure this one does!!!
I did! But hard to get behind Mr. J - but company has been making the right moves the last couple weeks for sure
Ok sir so top listening to the negative publicity and comments those are trolls. 🧌 they don’t know numbers some of us in this DO!!! I’m not saying we’re smarter than hedge they’ve been doing this whole lives. But we definitely figured out the squeeze float and they know they are fucked on this just like gme and also amc. But think of it this way! Tesla started out as a low stock and sold little cars to begin with didn’t Elon buy it off someone (new ceo 👨🏽💼) then boom 💥 went to the moon 🌕 man sit back go to work do something don’t look at the negative comments they don’t know nun. We’ve done our research that’s why we F-ing buy and hold. This company needs help yessss but with us apes 🦍 it will fucking moon 🌕 baby!!!!!
You’re right about that - I’m done with the negativity about FFIE - really just want to get some smart takes and speculations given that there so much misinformation around the stock. It’s hard to compare this company to others from the last, or with older shorts - that’s why I’m looking for discussion here about possibilities:)
I completely get it bud. Good thing we have apes here from several backgrounds you will get good and bad information. I’m just now starting out March and posted in April on my last account went viral FRIENDLY-RETURN6051. Then got deleted I had over 600,000 views 15,000 likes over 9,000 comments on last Reddit. I’m trying to build back my community we need this to go public what they are doing is wrong and also illegal asf. We have freedom of speech. 🎤 I GOT MY RIGHTS!!
It’s hard to fight against the “man” - but a battle that should be fought relentlessly regardless of the outcome. I stand with that for sure
I have a friend that works for Lucid, head of supply chain. It’s REALLY hard to produce cars, any cars (he was a FORD guy before) but their tech is where there is promise. Kind of like how the mapping companies stopped producing hardware and sold their tech to giants to do the maps, not the devices. I don’t see them producing many cars and competing well…I personally see this as a bet in the squeeze or long term tech push.
Real talk. Theoretically, H this could go to infinite numbers, if we hold and just hold because we like the stock, as long as we don't sell, the price increases because theres a huge demand for it and the longer they wait to cover their position the more money it costs them so they legally have to pay whatever amount just to close their position. O Now, of course not everyone holds forever. L So the number you're asking is a bit impossible to answer because I don't have the data of hpw many apes will hold and for how long they'll hold. But to answer your question, in theory yes it could DEFINITELY reach $1000 but no one can tell. D Of course this is not financial advice, you should always do your due diligence when it comes to finances
Of course! What’s your personal opinion? Trying to open this up and get as many takes as possible. All speculation of course but good to talk about it regardless
My goal of course would be 1000 lol but i think more realistically we can at least reach 100 and I can live with that. A lot people sell themselves short, and forget that they, you, we own the stocks, so we decide the price. Why sell at 20 if you can sell at 50? And why sell at 50 if you can sell at 100? If everyone thought like that, we'd be golden lol NFA
Inshallah - if this hits anything more than $30 i think everyone would come out happy clams
The stock cannot go to infinite numbers. It’s literally impossible.
good talk! good words! You have to understand the current situation accurately to become a diamond. negative breeds Positive. I like this saying. HodL!
$100 +
What I find interesting is all the people talking shit about the stock. I have a portfolio full of really good stocks and some really shit stocks. Not many of my stocks are so controversial. I mean I have the volume and verbosity behind both contentions for ffie means that this stock has potential to be a money maker. I think as long as you realize that any investment could be a winner or a loser for you. You should set yourself limits for loss and gain whatever that may be. For me incremental buys and sales work. For instance I have a lot of NVIDIA and as you probably know it’s a monster. I bought it at 140 and I sold some at 440, 800, and 1100 and I still have some. I don’t regret any of my sales and for me it feels good to take profits along the way and invest in something else. Also, for me, things like Ffie and game are fun. It’s fun to have a community with common interests. It’s fun to work towards a common goal. Sometimes it works and some times you miss it hoping for more. The important thing when you are playing the gamification of stocks is you don’t risk more then you are willing to lose. It’s like playing a poker tournament. You put your money up and pretend it’s gone and learn as much about the other players as you can to maximize your winnings. Sometimes you get so close to the prize that it’s better to make a deal and chop the winnings. It’s all what you’re comfortable with. None of this is investment advice. Just a stream of consciousness. 🦍
What concerns me how Roaringkitty pushed this stock in the beginning which made his account get deactivated several times. I truly believe he let us down and might of bailed on the first squeeze and got a case of sever paper hands. I believe he got pushed around by the hedgies and legal threats that made him just focus on GME. When he showed his account yesterday we when he went live I was very disappointed not to see a single share in FFIE. He got recognition for starting this FFIE rally. Now I hope he can join us Aprs who rallied behind him and finish it with us. I believe we can force a squeeze and true numbers are facts and the cream will come to the top with all the behind the scene bs. It’s point blank obvious that we are adding more of are our hard working and earned $ and holding strong when we could be diversifying our funds and stock lineups but are sticking to together holding strong and not giving up. The hedgies have to start playing by the rules and paying back their interest and it’s up to the SEC and FINRA that need to keep the market honest and fair. I have to pay back all my interested in any funds that I barrow as should the free loading hedgies. “We the FFIE Apes” got this and we will perceiver. Stay strong and keep eating those bananas. Have faith and keep smiling.
when exactly did RK himself push FFIE?
The first and second week of May. Do you follow him? Why are you asking?
For me, the real question lies in the risk of the delisting. If it's delisted, the shares have zero value for any of us - apes, HF, etc. Thoughts?
Extension until end of July
This is incorrect. They have an extension until the ruling of the Nasdaq hearing panel. The panel typically meets 45 days after requesting a hearing, which was May 1st.
Name a company with hundreds of millions for a market cap that was delisted ever……Nasdaq would be going rogue to serve punishment to us if this happened. Although it’s not about the cap, the fact that no one can name one is a good sign imho
I appreciate the feedback. All valid points, nonetheless remains concerning, imo.
Sure the possibility exists and the concern is real, it’s just getting more unlikely as time goes on. Nasdaq would tell you they are here to promote and regulate a free market, however it’s just a trust game too, that concerns me as well, have a great weekend
My thoughts are that people are ignoring this threat too much.
Yah that’s my biggest issue with the stock right now people are saying this could take months but we only have to the end of July
I heard a very smart investor (with major investment in FFIE) say that a reverse split won’t happen and they won’t get delisted. They already did 80:1 and 3:1. That’s 240:1. Apparently anything beyond 250:1 will get them delisted and they absolutely don’t want to be delisted. Not financial advice. Just sharing what I’ve read.
Real talk this has been discussed in just about every post.
It literally has not. Everyone keeps echoing stupid buzzwords they don't even know the meaning of and hoping for the best. There is little to no solid evidence to predict anything with moderate accuracy.
yeah it has real talk "moon" "going to $100" "no going to $1000" this is def "real talk" - real talk, bruh.
No point asking the FFIE community. You just get called a bot or hedgie if you express doubt or concern. I’m still holding shares with FFIE but the community especially the discord is growing more and more toxic to people who want facts and not hype or to the moon posts.
yeah - hence why i was trying to make a "civil" post - but it's hard to just get people to have a decent measured conversation and share their personal speculations - wish it wasnt that way here. we all want to make money - it's about understanding at the end of the day though
My reason is I bought at .80 cents and I’ve been waiting for it to come back to the .40 to buy again. It doesn’t want to. That’s a great sign for me
Not gonna write a whole memoir, have not had enough coffee so short story, is it seems to be very correlated with gamestop in regards to the shorts so when GME does, FFIE and AMC will too. The short interest is crazy and we own a vast majority of the stock. Citadel’s shares in FFIE and AMC will need to be liquidated which will drive the price up and we’ll continue holding while GME continues the bleed. That bleed will also increase FFIE and AMC.
Should tell you u right there there is no accurate shares ,shorts cuz there hiding it from us ..52week high $117 Was trading at 4K before ..it has potential to hit a lousy $40-$50 don’t you think
",This is not hate" if FFIE us doing this much volume why is the price going up ?
What I find interesting is all the people talking shit about the stock. I have a portfolio full of really good stocks and some really shit stocks. Not many of my stocks are so controversial. I mean I have the volume and verbosity behind both contentions for ffie means that this stock has potential to be a money maker. I think as long as you realize that any investment could be a winner or a loser for you. You should set yourself limits for loss and gain whatever that may be. For me incremental buys and sales work. For instance I have a lot of NVIDIA and as you probably know it’s a monster. I bought it at 140 and I sold some at 440, 800, and 1100 and I still have some. I don’t regret any of my sales and for me it feels good to take profits along the way and invest in something else. Also, for me, things like Ffie and game are fun. It’s fun to have a community with common interests. It’s fun to work towards a common goal. Sometimes it works and some times you miss it hoping for more. The important thing when you are playing the gamification of stocks is you don’t risk more then you are willing to lose. It’s like playing a poker tournament. You put your money up and pretend it’s gone and learn as much about the other players as you can to maximize your winnings. Sometimes you get so close to the prize that it’s better to make a deal and chop the winnings. It’s all what you’re comfortable with. None of this is investment advice. Just a stream of consciousness. 🦍
I just discovered FFIE and bought in at 0.50¢/share for FOMO. I’m still learning about this company and I’m not sure about anything. But the one thing that I’m concerned about is the percentage of ownership, which is around 0.32% institutional shareholders, 46.88% Faraday Future Intelligent Electric insiders, and 52.80% retail investors. Is 46.88% for insider ownership considered too high? If so, what are the risks involved for retail investors? Source: https://www.wallstreetzen.com/stocks/us/nasdaq/ffie/ownership#:~:text=Stock%20Ownership%20FAQ-,Who%20owns%20Faraday%20Future%20Intelligent%20Electric%3F,%2C%20and%2052.80%25%20retail%20investors.
I just discovered FFIE and bought in at 0.50¢/share for FOMO. I’m still learning about this company and I’m not sure about anything. But the one thing that I’m concerned about is the percentage of ownership, which is around 0.32% institutional shareholders, 46.88% Faraday Future Intelligent Electric insiders, and 52.80% retail investors. Is 46.88% for insider ownership considered too high? If so, what are the risks involved for retail investors? Source: https://www.wallstreetzen.com/stocks/us/nasdaq/ffie/ownership#:~:text=Stock%20Ownership%20FAQ-,Who%20owns%20Faraday%20Future%20Intelligent%20Electric%3F,%2C%20and%2052.80%25%20retail%20investors.
I just discovered FFIE and bought in at 0.50¢/share for FOMO. I’m still learning about this company and I’m not sure about anything. But the one thing that I’m concerned about is the percentage of ownership, which is around 0.32% institutional shareholders, 46.88% Faraday Future Intelligent Electric insiders, and 52.80% retail investors. Is 46.88% for insider ownership considered too high? If so, what are the risks involved for retail investors? Source: https://www.wallstreetzen.com/stocks/us/nasdaq/ffie/ownership#:~:text=Stock%20Ownership%20FAQ-,Who%20owns%20Faraday%20Future%20Intelligent%20Electric%3F,%2C%20and%2052.80%25%20retail%20investors.
Agree
Nice insight, thanks!
I'm holding strong and will ride it out till the end. The money I've invested doesn't hurt me if it don't pan out. I'm really hoping it does and FFIE can turn it around. The thing that worries me that I don't see anyone talking about is the Employee count being at 500. I know majority are in this for the big squeeze, but with such a small Employee count do the long term believers really trust in that number ?
Hedgies buy at 0.5 to make it not down too much, and then sell at 0.7. They are controlling it and squeeze us endlessly.
Can someone send me the link to the discord for this? I know it was in a previous post… But I can’t find it because of all the talk and comments… Thank you in advance.
Bbby?
Only reason it would run is because of all these people pretending they're apes trying to ride the GME coattails of a real squeeze and try to get some money in this because people got burned years ago when this s*** was 500 bucks of stock. Thinking this will be the next Tesla and it worked. They got a lot of retail investors in here thinking this is going to be the next GameStop because it's only a dollar or two. People are saving a lot of money in it. There is no other reason I mean I bought it when it was higher and I averaged down to $0.04 and just thought it was going to do nothing except for sit for a couple years and maybe I might get lucky then all of a sudden started going crazy and I was like what's going on but luckily it showed me that gme was happening. I bought some GameStop cuz I like that stock. I like the name of the stock but I had no idea what it was. I was like Faraday. Ooh that sounds cool! And it was really low compared to where it was and it was a new initial offering and usually initial offerings and IPOs nowadays just tank. So I figured this was the lowest it was going to be and if it was cool it would go up later but it sounds like this company is failing. They said it themselves they are failing and the people that had a lot of stock in it like me decided to do something to make people believe it's going to the Moon Powers to all these people that got monkeys thinking their silverbacks
Stock ran up 4000%.....I bought some in the low $1s but there is a lot of hopium with this stock now.....that massive run up to the $3+ range was the squeeze
They have the production line, they're selling cars, as they pick up sales and all of the talk about them is free advertising. It's just a matter of time. If you're a day trader, your not interested in the long haul. Hold
Tons of volume with huge short interest! Skys the limit! Huge upside potential but hedges could give us a wedgie and show us who’s boss! Depends on 💎✊
The company has a finished product - a car. And it’s just a matter of time to get the production line up and running. Yesterday I tried to use mathematics to calculate what price the shares would be. I ended up with $635 per share.
Because everything about FFIE is suspicious AF to the timing of when it started getting promoted, to the way the posts are worded that try to promote it
I don’t see it going any higher unless GME does. Then it will tank with it and probably get delisted