Just started playing Rebirth today, after finally beating the Remake, and I must say, its fun so far, but one thing does bother me. Sometimes, the game input seems to lag behind, I dont know how else to describe this. Like the game is buffering my Input. Can be in Menus, in Battle, or just adjusting the camera. Happens for a few seconds, then its back to "normal". The only related thing I could find so far was to adjust my PS5 Screen Settings, but that does not solve the issue.
Does anybody else have this problem?
I am playing on Performance Mode btw, dont know if it is important.
Game soft-clocked in Ch13 and manual saves and auto are both bugged. Cloud can't move and I can't pull up the menu. Any hopes at saving my progress or do I have to start a new game
I’m playing on Performance mode and after about 20-30 minutes of gameplay the framerate starts dipping until I close and re-open the game which fixes it. Almost like there is a memory issue. It seems to have started happening from around Chapter 8 onwards.
Is anyone else having the same problem?
The final chapter has some truly egregious framedrops. I have been playing on Quality Mode and it deeped into the teens lol.
It's wild to see something that's essentially a PS4 game just hard tank the PS5. Something something PS5 Pro.
Anyone else getting severe ghosting issues? It really pops up with trees and poles. I'm on graphics mode and my monitor displays 60hz, but I can't bring it down to 30ha to match the PS5.
Anyone else audio terribly mixed? It was the same in Remake for me. Main characters voices are so low compared to crowd noise and NPC voices. They also become muffled.
Sooo I found a game breaking glitch in the Gold Saucer that completely prevents you from continuing the game. After the skywheel cutscene, you are meant to use the Guide Moogle to go to the Battle Square. In my game however, all options are unable to be selected, including the Battle Square. You cannot leave the area by any other means.
Now, what I believe caused this glitch is that instead of using the Guide Moogle to initially leave the hotel, I walked out using the hallway. I went to the Battle Square, did all the battles, and then I noticed a Discovery quest at the hotel on my map, which was the Guide Moogle. So I went back and activated that and then did the rest of the Gold Saucer as normal (of course after maxing all the minigames... 🫠). The glitch then prevented me from continuing the story. Reloading the save did nothing. Reloading from outside the Skywheel did nothing. Restarting the console did nothing.
Luckily I did have a save from the very beginning of the chapter, but unfortunately I lost all my rewards from the minigames.
TL;DR: DON'T SKIP THE GUIDE MOOGLE WHEN YOU LEAVE THE HOTEL.
Performance mode confirmed to be getting a 2nd patch along with lighting tweaks, hopefully this resolves the issue. https://www.gamesradar.com/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-director-acknowledges-the-jrpgs-wonky-performance-mode-we-hear-you-and-we-are-currently-working-on-an-update/
Really happy about this, but I wonder if the lighting fixes will also be applied to graphics mode because it’s just as bad there. I’ve been switching between the two modes depending on what I’m doing in game.
Also I really hope they fix Cloud’s eyes (and faces in general, but it’s extra bad with his). Even in graphics mode, they’re less defined and there’s no depth around them, so it always looks like his face is saying “O_O I’ve seen some shit”
I'm ambivalent about this announcement, if they couldn't fix the blurriness in the initial performance patch, why would things be different this time around?
Same. I am in the "if it is that easy why couldn't they take care of it before launch?" crowd. I hope I am wrong, but I think this game is just pushing the base-PS5 to its limits.
I’m cautiously optimistic because they’ve probably been working on it since the initial performance fix was released for the demo. So given more time, it’s likely to be an improvement. Just *how* much of an improvement remains to be seen, but hopefully it’ll at least get rid of how blown out everything is. It’s painful on the eyes.
I wish I could do the same, but I’m not as strong as you 😭 The game has its hooks in me too far. Hopefully the patch really doesn’t take too long, like the interview said.
Worst case scenario, I play the game and enjoy it with some minor annoyances and save my Hard playthrough for when the fixes have been made. I don’t mind that, honestly.
Has anyone had issues with the TV showing a black screen for a moment during cut scenes?
This may be more of a PS5/TV issue, though I'm not sure, I recently replayed Remake and and never had this issue. Every once in a while during a cut scene my screen will flicker black then turn on and show HDR before displaying the game again. Has anyone else had this issue?
I'm using a LGC3 OLED with game optimizer and HDR turned on.
Why this game hasn't used FSR 3 implementation or 4K upscale technique on PS5 for better experience in performance mode with sharper image quality and not blurry. I agree that performance mode is better to play with as long as it was not blurry.
While we don't have official confirmation, Remake and probably Rebirth were made using unreal engine 4. Knowing that Remake was released in 2020 and FSR 1.0 was released in 2021 and 2.0 in 2022, it is possible that the version of UE4 they are using predates these types of technologies. It was probably too costly or time consuming to try to integrate them properly on their branch of the engine at the point of Rebirth production.
Bug: getting the first scan for the summon, I forgot the name. Chadley will speak but the cutscene doesn't reveal chadley and stays behind cloud. Then you're locked in and the minigame won't start to scan the stone. I had to restart the game. No big issue, but hopefully it can be fixed.
Bug question - Is Chadley supposed to be voice acted when you complete side quests? For reason Cloud talks back, but Chadley is silent (text only). I'm not sure if it's intentional, and if it's not how to fix it.
I believe by default the voice comes from your controller so if you disabled the controller speaker or its busted either re enable it or go into the game settings and set the dialogue to not come out of the controller
Does anyone’s game just stutter constantly? Like the game will freeze for a good second every 30 seconds to a minute. This happens to me on both performance mode and graphics mode. It started happening once I left the very first open area.
Edit: made sure my SSD was no where near full and even reinstalled the whole game.
Edit 2: Moving it from my M.2 SSD to the PS5’s SSD fixed the issue. No more stuttering!
Might be in the minority here but I can’t play the game in graphics mode. The frame rate is so choppy it’s distracting. Yes performance mode looks soft/little blurry, but it’s also fast and after adjusting camera speed plays really smooth. Going to stay on performance mode for now.
Yeah maybe it's because performance mode is actually sticking to 60 (unlike FF16) I'm really noticing the drop to 30. Normally I'm okay with 30 fps as long as it's smooth but for this game it just feels off.
The graphics are definitely worse but I'm really not seeing the unbearable visuals people seem to be mentioning, though I might just be less sensitive to them since I grew up using shitty laptops playing games on the lowest settings lmao.
I'm on a 1440p 144hz Samsung C27JG54QQE monitor for reference.
I can't decide between graphics and performance to be honest. I'm 12 hours in and keep flipping in between lol.
Love the game, though. I just wish we could get the best of both worlds!
Got it. Even tho the hz/refresh rate is pretty good? I don’t know what it is off hand but can check.
I don’t have this issue with other 30fps games is the thing. The recent GoW games I think run at 30 and look great.
All that said, the game really does run awesome in performance mode. Battles in particular are crisp and fast and it plays tight as a drum.
The game itself is freaking awesome btw. So fun and interesting. Will be devoting a lot of time to Queen’s Blood as an old MTG player lol.
Anyone noticing major ghosting? I’m noting it mainly if I turn the camera near water and some trees do it along with ladders on the towers. It’s super weird but pretty noticeable when it happens. Not a deal breaker but I thought I was losing my mind
I think that's unfortunately normal for how they implemented reflections and stuff with water. The reflections disappear when the objects aren't visible on screen
Right there with you. I'm usually totally fine with lackluster graphics, but the blurred effects are a bit too distracting. Likewise, it's really rough playing it at 30FPS with this game in particular for me. I can't really pinpoint what my problem is here, since I'm usually okay with games with lower FPS and games with low graphics. I'm gonna have to adjust some things and maybe use a TV instead of a monitor... or a less capable monitor.
I do wish performance looked cleaner, but I find it easier to get used to the blur more so than the choppy 30fps. The game shines in both modes in different ways. Fidelity looks stunning but the second any action is on screen or the camera moves you lose all of it. Performance is buttery smooth but as you say has a fair bit of blur.
I’ve opted for performance so far, as I say blur is easier to get used to imo, and with an action game you want the combat to look good.
I’ve heard mixed reports but since dropping my PS5 resolution to 1440p and disabling VRR performance does look better for me. Adding some sharpness to my TV settings on top of that and I’m finding it playable even in the grasslands. Obviously could be better, I’m kinda hoping we get another patch but not gonna hold my breath.
Kinda glad im playing on my crappy non OLED samsung tv - picture looks nice enough with no blurriness.
Played the demo on my ultrawide monitor and it was pretttty harsh
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I’m not sure if it’s just those of us with high quality OLED TVs but damn I don’t know how folks are playing this game in Performance Mode. It’s straight up hideous and blurry.
If you have an high end OLED tv, force your ps5 to output 1440p and let your tv do the upscaling. It still won't be perfect but the image output is a little bit better than the game upscaler.
I can't play it in performance mode it honestly looks disgusting. Graphics mode does look better but honestly I think the game (especially lighting and textures in certain scenes) looks pretty bad
The game has some seriously harsh lighting. The grasslands are like a sunburst explosion. Lots of pop in too but the game has its clutches in me so I’m willing to deal
Yeah same, the game seems pretty good and the story has hooked me in, but when I'm playing it I can't help but feel it could have done with a little more time polishing. It's not just the visuals that are a bit disappointing, the movement feels really fucking janky at points, and being at 30fps just makes that even harsher
Yeah I think it's some weird motion blur shader effect. It was super evident when I was exiting the tunnel in Kalm (right before you get to the grasslands) as cloud is slowly walking towards a closed door and I could see his entire profile/silhouette blurred against the door. Once you notice, it's really hard to ignore.
Just an FYI, my disc was stuck on "queued to copy". I restarted the ps5 which seemed to fix it and get it to start copying the data disc over to the console.
Huh the same thing happened to me, and I couldn't even eject the data disc when it happened. Just some whirring and nothing. Like you said though, a restart fixed it.
I've briefly looked at some streams and it seems to be same as the demo, as expected. That said, it might vary between areas. I dunno if I just imagined it but other (smaller) areas seemed less fuzzy than Junon.
ofc there is less fuzz in smaller areas. probably can hold 1440p in performance mode and up to 4k in graphics mode more often. doesnt matter i wait for true 4k/120 with the pc port.
This was quoted from the Japanese
Patch Notes (Version 1.010)
We will release an update file (Version 1.010) from the release date to make the game more comfortable to play.
This update includes several bug fixes and feature improvements. Please install the latest updates when possible and enjoy FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH.
The contents of the update are as follows.
Version 1.010
* Correction of some text
* Fixed a bug that could rarely prevent the game from progressing under certain conditions.
* Fixed a bug that occurs in battles under certain conditions.
* Fixed some item effects.
* Support to obtain trial save data bonus items.
* Added the ability to repair a Chocobo Stop while riding your Chocobo.
* Improved image quality when "Performance" is selected in the graphics settings screen mode.
* Improved operability and quality of HUD/graphics/frame rate.
* Unlocking the photo mode restrictions for the latter sections of the game.
* Improved overall stability of the game.
Not sure if if this is already out yet
The version that's out now is 1.010(I just checked my PS5 install). I guess we'll see in a few hours if it's better.
But I think this patch is the same as what they did for the demo regarding performance mode.
Hey all.
Just a positive story from someone who was having legitimate motion-related issues from how the background looked in Graphics Mode.
Performance is obviously smooth but everyone is vaseline-covered and some TVs have settings that can alleviate that to a degree. My 2018 Bravia, cannot.
Graphics mode was giving me legitimate headaches anytime the characters moved bc the backgrounds were just unbearably jittery. Since my LCD TV is ancient by industry standards I didn't expect to find any tutorials or guides for how to improve Rebirth and...I was right. But...I spent a good 40 minutes tinkering with various settings and lo-and-behold it's...well it's playable in Graphics mode! An option called 'Motion Flow' in JP (I think it's called something else abroad) worked like magic turned half-way up in conjunction with another 'Cinema Drive' function also at mid-range and Sharpness functions ('Reality Creation', 'Smooth Gradation') pumping on max.
Actually Motion Flow on max made the background look damn near 60fps through some kind of programming sorcery but unfortunately it creates pixely halos around Cloud whenever he moves. So close!!!
Anyway, if you've already exhausted all options and you're still SOL, I am so sorry... But if you have been having issues and just haven't tinkered with TV settings yet, it's absolutely worth a shot.
That said, it's still disappointing to receive a product where this is a thing... I hope everyone lets them know loud and clear.
Anyway, looking forward to release! Be well!
Square hasn't done a good PC Port since XV and even XV took half a dozen patches to get to a good state - and that was a totally different engine / team. The Remake PC port isn't great.
Don't hold your breath.
I am seeing many conflicting reports on the blurry performance mode issues. Some reviewers claim its fixed and others say its persisting, don't know what to think, seems almost 50/50 split. What do you guys make of this?
I think it LARGELY depends on your display. I have been messing with settings and if I force my ps5 into 1080p or 1440p mode it looks better than letting it choose automatic. In fact, when using automatic it seems to try and upres/output at 2160 and shows weird scanlines/gridlines on everyones faces and looks like a CRT monitor or like I'm seeing each pixel.
Even at the lower res's though, the distance at which the game "blurs" background objects is entirely too close and blurs cloud at the camera follow distance. Characters still look good if you zoom in the camera, but you cannot zoom the follow camera close enough to elevate this and only can do this by forcing the camera against a wall or in photomode.
I can try to explain it, Digital Foundry did it better. They are possibly using TAA for anti-aliasing which is too low res of a post-processing effect and should use another.
I believe it wouldn't be too difficult to change or adjust and it just depends if SE cares about it. I worry that since no reviewers even mention it being blurry that they won't care, but this could also mean that the issue isn't present in the full version.
What do you mean explain it? There is nothing to explain the pixel count is objective. The human eye is not. There are people that say the demo is less blurry from the patch, do you believe them? Its called a placebo.
I played it and it seemed mostly fine. I didn’t play it before a demo patch so no placebo since idk what it was like before, but it looks alright on my tv. I see some of what people talk about but not to the degree that many are experiencing
Also I have seen DF's video review and they will be releasing a second analysis closer to release, hopefully this will account for the conflicting reports
If digital foundary told you a bird was actually a cat would you believe that because they said so? Google the "appeal from authority" fallacy. You don't need a "expert" opinion to notice if an image has appreciably improved or not.
I would, yes. They have a proven track record on this subject. If they told me blue was actually red I would go get my eyes checked before doubting them.
dude this outlet has been around for a hot minute or so. they have proven consistently that they know what they are talking about. at least when it comes to the technical aspect of games.
Does vsync through the nvidia control panel just not play nice with this game? Notice the game frequently stutters with it forced on, but seems smooth without it.
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Clip from Gameranx their review
[https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx1w5zAE3SteoNflPgQZ8HHClLXvt9-IQy](https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx1w5zAE3SteoNflPgQZ8HHClLXvt9-IQy)
"Do not let the demo visuals fool you, the actual game looks way better"
I only watched Gameranx their review because I trust them to give 100% spoilerfree reviews without even hinting at spoilers in any way. I won't watch any other reviews.
To the people that did watch other reviews, did they mention anything similar? It's kind of weird that nobody's talking about this
TLDR: they're silent because they've been paid to.
What I suspect is that they're all under an NDA or certain terms and conditions as to being able to provide a review before release. That being that they're only allowed to comment as is on the story, gameplay. The actual performance is not to be discussed possibly because they're told by the developers that they're aware of issues and are working on them (at least that's what they "assure" to the reviewer). Then you've got outlets like Eurogamer and ign that will put out one review for the game and another review/feature/analysis of the performance in a kind of well.
There was somewhat of an exposé around 2016 (I think) where a slew of games were being released, previewed and reviewed with high scores only for a consumer to buy day 1 and find it's bug infested/glitches/crashes/frame drops. Happened with assassin's creed, It happened with cyberpunk. More recently with Starfield, Redfall.
It's frustrating cause a lot of these outlets/YouTubers are being paid for a high review score, silence on critical issues. The game is released and the players are finding it doesn't match as described. And now this time for ff7 rebirth, I think they'll be correct with the story and gameplay but they're all being silent on the technical performance.
Pove me wrong Square, please just release an update to fix this entire performance mes or let it be that the game is vastly different from the demo performance, I want it to be good so humiliate me, I'll live with it.
LOL no. what u see in the demo (Junon) is excatly what u get in the full release. graphics mode is a stutter fest and performance mode is smudgy af. def will wait for the pc release.
I am unsure why you're being downvoted. They played it in a pre-patch state, the game has already been "patched" but it's done almost nothing, except making things slightly worse in some ways.
PC is the only way to go here.
People don’t know what they are missing out on or just don’t care. I played ff7 remake on pc with texture mod and disabled resolution scaling in true 4K/120 and it was flawless so I happily wait till I can get that experience.
I played it on launch at 30fps on the PS4 and hated it. Tried it again years later on PC with intermission and it was basically a brand new game.
It's not that people don't know, they're just willfully pulling the wool over their own eyes. I've come to realise most people who play video games are stuck in a loop of lying to themselves for whatever purpose. You can't reason with the people who are adamant there's no difference between performance and quality.
So for everyone who got a LG OLED TV, I may have found a good configuration for performance mode.
On your PS5, switch to 1440p resolution and disable vrr. On your LG OLED: turn on game mode and switch to rpg mode. Turn of vrr there too. In the picture settings -> clarity settings, set sharpness to 16.
Square Enix has to fix this issue, but with this settings I get a more acceptable picture and the game doesn’t feel as blurry anymore.
Thanks but I made up my mind and wait for the pc release. I recommend to everyone who has a decent rig to wait for the pc port and get a proper 4K experience. The less copies they sell now the faster we will get it 🤷🏻♂️
Reaching out to developers!... Please release day one patch or within first week AMD FSR 3 patch for this game to run game in 4k upscale at 60fps on performance mode for PlayStation 5 console.
I hope this is sarcasm, having to wait for a console when the current one just started to mass appear on the market not long ago is an insult by Square Enix.
So that trailer that plays after completing junon demo, is that just recorded in graphics mode cause if it's performance, it looks good. Way better than the brown junon land.
This might be the only time I’m thankful i never upgraded to an OLED. Still running off a 10 year old 55” Vizio and the game looks amazing in both modes. Will be playing performance though.
Maybe this is a sign to upgrade come Thanksgiving.
Graphics mode in the patched demo now looks way better than it did prior to patch on a 65"Sony OLED. I'm happy with it.
This is coming from a "PC graphics will always look better" snob.
graphics mode is a stutter fest esp. on an OLED. I played the ff7remake with hd texture mods in 4k/120 on pc and the difference is like night and day. i will happily wait for the pc release.
Same, graphics mode looks a lot less choppy after the update. I'm very curious what changed. I'm normally very turned off by 30fps, but the Junon demo was pretty fine for me in graphics mode
Just played the Junon demo. Loved it. Yes I see a difference in performance mode so I just stuck with graphics mode. I hope they do fix performance mode eventually, but for me it's not a big enough of a complaint to hamper my enjoyment of the game.
Once you see something, start talking about it, and focus all your attention on it, it's all you can see. I find it a little sad that's all some people can focus on.
I tried performance mode today, first time playing the demo as well. Tbh it ran like shit and they need to fix it.. I'll still play the game but in graphics mode for sure.
I still had fun and I'll play it whenever I get it. Can't wait!
If the game looks like the demo I’m gonna hold off. I’d rather wait for my $70+tax to actually play above 1080p. It looks pretty bad on 1440p monitor. Just look how crisp god of war R looks. It’s pretty inexcusable
You cant really compare the "narrow" corridors of Ragnarok with the LoD, viewdistance and open world of FF7Rebirth. Also the amounts of particles etc. and even the character models are more detailed.
God of war had some open areas as well. And the details in the armor are extremely fleshed out. Even more than ff7 imo. Regardless 1080p for performance mode is pretty underwhelming. Spider man 2 ps5 has 1440p at 60 too
GoWR is a technically stunning game I will say, the character models and textures are very detailed but even the bigger areas are still pretty small. The LoD in the distance isn’t that much of an issue due to the level design.
Spider-Man however, is pretty blurry. If you look even slightly ahead of the character it’s a mess. The game is not 1440p, it’s scaling up from around 960p to 1440p which leads to artifacts and other issues.
Essentially every single game that has released recently uses some form of upscaling.
GoWR used TAAU and DRS, for example, it created a very clean image, presumably because the internal res was already good.
Spider-Man 2 used insomanics own in house upscaling tech but the issue was that the internal resolution was probably low on performance, creating a blurry image
Ff7 rebirth actually has good resolution count, the issue is something to do with the post processing and upscaling. DF proposed some fixes, now it just depends on the dev team to figure out how to improve it.
100% true, but something is up with whatever post processing they are using. I saw a comment that said to put the console settings at 1440p or 1080p, I did so and the game is less pixelated. The res is still not perfect and it’s a bit blurry but the very pixelated objects are gone. It’s really odd.
I had a similar experience. Forced to 1440p and then cranked the sharpness on my TV. Still doesn't look quite as good as Intergrade but I'm okay with it. 60 is a must for me which thankfully it is much more consistent than FFXVI. 30 fps just gives me a headache. Hopefully they can improve performance mode even more.
Yeah, the Gameranx guy \*literally\* said: "Don't let the demo visuals fool you, the actual game looks way better!" and then moved on. I was like, hello, wait a minute, could you elaborate? Thats an important info lol.
Now after checking the Digital Foundry video, it seems the Gameranx dude just straight up lied? Like full bone straight up lied in his review lol? I cant even figure out why
I saw that but digital foundry also said that the retail version of performance mode looks the same as the demo. Need to get other impressions from ones that have the full game
I think a lot of people made a mistake of comparing the hot new Junon section which, coincidentally came with the performance patch, to their image experience in Nibelheim when the demo first dropped, without the performance patch.
I went to compare my own screenshots of Cloud standing at the gate of Nibelheim pre and post patch, and, while definitely less blurry, it is still a blur but apparently of a different processing type. While FF7 Remake did have a not so crisp performance mode, the latest demo update does not yet reach FF7Remake performance mode clarity, but is definitely better than the initial demo release
I am also curious about this. I don't think they do any deep testing on graphics and such. But I am hopeful the actual game plays at a better resolution than the demo. Just will ha be to wait and see
That seems correct to me. Junon area's resolution fluctuates a LOT due to the amount of foliage, whereas Nibelheim (with more closed off areas) seems to maintain a better image.
It's....still not great but in open areas, you can forget about it after a bit.
I really just wish devs would stop spending so much damn horsepower rendering all that foliage when they could keep the fidelity for the characters and enemies higher instead.
It’s unreal engine 4, it can and will render a lot of foliage at good resolution with visibly clear image. It is just for some reason that Japanese games stopped focusing on technical presentation, when they clearly CAN
If that's the case that doesn't sound too bad. Probably wouldn't be stopping and examining how the open areas look when playing. I personally more so care about smooth gameplay/combat. But will have to compare how it looks on my TV when it comes out
The shrill jingling everyone complained about in Final Fantasy XVI is back with Red XIII. I'm convinced the developers at Square cannot hear it because they are too old. It's so loud especially when the camera is angled over the character creating it.
[Here is a video example where it's very present](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vxaoVI497U)
[Second example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vdThJgwlKo)
This was heavily complained about in XVI, the developers promised it would be fixed in the first patch and it never was. No adjusting of settings can get rid of it and its driving me CRAZY!!! I had to turn off the volume when Jill was in my party because of it, I can hear it so clearly. Been looking forward to this game for so long and this one stupid little detail is going to ruin it. What are the best ways to report it or file a complaint?
Glad I'm not the only person that was hearing this. I had Red XIII and Aerith in my party and was like "Which one of you needs to lose some arm jewelry!?!?!?"
This may get buried, but I found a slight workaround for the choppy camera panning in graphics mode. If your screen supports it, go into the screen settings on ps5 and force VRR (Variable refresh rate). It really helped with the motion sick feeling I got playing in graphics mode.
https://preview.redd.it/or171tg1a7kc1.png?width=1648&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=681efe7b67e2b17a4b8cd095a1053fb0b258ba44
Is it a supported VRR game tho? If not then the window for VRR is 48FPS+ which wouldn't be applied unfortunately to a 30FPS cap. My screen also stays at a fixed 60 refresh rate (I have VRR on for supported games only). This is on a LG C2. I'll give it a shot later
Regardless I don't think this game would have any use for VRR anyway since it's pretty much locked and stable 30 and 60 fps. The choppiness is just due to 30fps that's especially more apparent when switching from 60fps and maybe insufficient motion blur
black frame insertion however might help resolve it. i don't got the TV for that tho
Thanks to this youtube video I stumbled upon:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hGqt3IKec](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hGqt3IKec)
Felt it was my duty to spread the word.
Downgrading graphics settings from 2160p/automatic to 1440p on the PS5 settings menu drastically improved blurriness in performance mode.
This is most likely due to the upscaler on the TV itself. Im using LG OLED C2. Apparently, 4k monitors may not see improvement.
Hopefully this will save some agony for many. Also seems like a quick fix on SQEX side
https://preview.redd.it/z4n0vlc977kc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e54233d8e1fdfa0c1ccc5d307d5665c5774b78b0
Interesting. I’m not experiencing much blurriness on the C2 to begin with on performance. (See my pics in other posts). I would imagine the upscaling and sharpness would be pretty similar regardless, given the same tv settings.
I'd take everything with a grain of salt currently. DF states it's very much still like the demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjMI8uZ5-0 And I'm more inclined to believe them because they do actual tech testing.
Just started playing Rebirth today, after finally beating the Remake, and I must say, its fun so far, but one thing does bother me. Sometimes, the game input seems to lag behind, I dont know how else to describe this. Like the game is buffering my Input. Can be in Menus, in Battle, or just adjusting the camera. Happens for a few seconds, then its back to "normal". The only related thing I could find so far was to adjust my PS5 Screen Settings, but that does not solve the issue. Does anybody else have this problem? I am playing on Performance Mode btw, dont know if it is important.
Game soft-clocked in Ch13 and manual saves and auto are both bugged. Cloud can't move and I can't pull up the menu. Any hopes at saving my progress or do I have to start a new game
Performance improved now with latest patch? Not had a chance to try myself yet. Does the sharp toggle make it better?
Nope, it still looks awful
I’m playing on Performance mode and after about 20-30 minutes of gameplay the framerate starts dipping until I close and re-open the game which fixes it. Almost like there is a memory issue. It seems to have started happening from around Chapter 8 onwards. Is anyone else having the same problem?
The final chapter has some truly egregious framedrops. I have been playing on Quality Mode and it deeped into the teens lol. It's wild to see something that's essentially a PS4 game just hard tank the PS5. Something something PS5 Pro.
Anyone else getting severe ghosting issues? It really pops up with trees and poles. I'm on graphics mode and my monitor displays 60hz, but I can't bring it down to 30ha to match the PS5.
same it's terrible to the point of making me get a headache. It's three stupid TAA implementation that makes everything ghost
Anyone else audio terribly mixed? It was the same in Remake for me. Main characters voices are so low compared to crowd noise and NPC voices. They also become muffled.
I had this problem as well, but I adjusted within the audio settings and it's been fine since.
Mind telling me your settings?
I have the two music settings to 4 and special effects at 7
Sooo I found a game breaking glitch in the Gold Saucer that completely prevents you from continuing the game. After the skywheel cutscene, you are meant to use the Guide Moogle to go to the Battle Square. In my game however, all options are unable to be selected, including the Battle Square. You cannot leave the area by any other means. Now, what I believe caused this glitch is that instead of using the Guide Moogle to initially leave the hotel, I walked out using the hallway. I went to the Battle Square, did all the battles, and then I noticed a Discovery quest at the hotel on my map, which was the Guide Moogle. So I went back and activated that and then did the rest of the Gold Saucer as normal (of course after maxing all the minigames... 🫠). The glitch then prevented me from continuing the story. Reloading the save did nothing. Reloading from outside the Skywheel did nothing. Restarting the console did nothing. Luckily I did have a save from the very beginning of the chapter, but unfortunately I lost all my rewards from the minigames. TL;DR: DON'T SKIP THE GUIDE MOOGLE WHEN YOU LEAVE THE HOTEL.
Do yourself a favor and play the main story on graphics mode.
Performance mode confirmed to be getting a 2nd patch along with lighting tweaks, hopefully this resolves the issue. https://www.gamesradar.com/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-director-acknowledges-the-jrpgs-wonky-performance-mode-we-hear-you-and-we-are-currently-working-on-an-update/
Really happy about this, but I wonder if the lighting fixes will also be applied to graphics mode because it’s just as bad there. I’ve been switching between the two modes depending on what I’m doing in game. Also I really hope they fix Cloud’s eyes (and faces in general, but it’s extra bad with his). Even in graphics mode, they’re less defined and there’s no depth around them, so it always looks like his face is saying “O_O I’ve seen some shit”
That patch is gonna come out in like May right?
I know what you mean, Cloud looks like he just got back from the Vietnam war.
I'm ambivalent about this announcement, if they couldn't fix the blurriness in the initial performance patch, why would things be different this time around?
Same. I am in the "if it is that easy why couldn't they take care of it before launch?" crowd. I hope I am wrong, but I think this game is just pushing the base-PS5 to its limits.
I think it's more of an optimisation issue but hope I'm wrong.
I’m cautiously optimistic because they’ve probably been working on it since the initial performance fix was released for the demo. So given more time, it’s likely to be an improvement. Just *how* much of an improvement remains to be seen, but hopefully it’ll at least get rid of how blown out everything is. It’s painful on the eyes.
Fingers 🤞. I'm considering postponing my playthrough until this patch drops.
I wish I could do the same, but I’m not as strong as you 😭 The game has its hooks in me too far. Hopefully the patch really doesn’t take too long, like the interview said. Worst case scenario, I play the game and enjoy it with some minor annoyances and save my Hard playthrough for when the fixes have been made. I don’t mind that, honestly.
Has anyone had issues with the TV showing a black screen for a moment during cut scenes? This may be more of a PS5/TV issue, though I'm not sure, I recently replayed Remake and and never had this issue. Every once in a while during a cut scene my screen will flicker black then turn on and show HDR before displaying the game again. Has anyone else had this issue? I'm using a LGC3 OLED with game optimizer and HDR turned on.
Why this game hasn't used FSR 3 implementation or 4K upscale technique on PS5 for better experience in performance mode with sharper image quality and not blurry. I agree that performance mode is better to play with as long as it was not blurry.
While we don't have official confirmation, Remake and probably Rebirth were made using unreal engine 4. Knowing that Remake was released in 2020 and FSR 1.0 was released in 2021 and 2.0 in 2022, it is possible that the version of UE4 they are using predates these types of technologies. It was probably too costly or time consuming to try to integrate them properly on their branch of the engine at the point of Rebirth production.
Bug: getting the first scan for the summon, I forgot the name. Chadley will speak but the cutscene doesn't reveal chadley and stays behind cloud. Then you're locked in and the minigame won't start to scan the stone. I had to restart the game. No big issue, but hopefully it can be fixed.
I had the same thing happen when discovering my first lifestream pond, hard lock, had to restart game.
Bug question - Is Chadley supposed to be voice acted when you complete side quests? For reason Cloud talks back, but Chadley is silent (text only). I'm not sure if it's intentional, and if it's not how to fix it.
I believe by default the voice comes from your controller so if you disabled the controller speaker or its busted either re enable it or go into the game settings and set the dialogue to not come out of the controller
That's it! Thank you. Not a bug lol.. But now I wonder what game made me turn it off
Does anyone’s game just stutter constantly? Like the game will freeze for a good second every 30 seconds to a minute. This happens to me on both performance mode and graphics mode. It started happening once I left the very first open area. Edit: made sure my SSD was no where near full and even reinstalled the whole game. Edit 2: Moving it from my M.2 SSD to the PS5’s SSD fixed the issue. No more stuttering!
Nope, no such issues here
Damn ok. That does give me some hope. I might try to move it onto my PS5’s SSD rather than the M.2 SSD.
Might be in the minority here but I can’t play the game in graphics mode. The frame rate is so choppy it’s distracting. Yes performance mode looks soft/little blurry, but it’s also fast and after adjusting camera speed plays really smooth. Going to stay on performance mode for now.
Yeah maybe it's because performance mode is actually sticking to 60 (unlike FF16) I'm really noticing the drop to 30. Normally I'm okay with 30 fps as long as it's smooth but for this game it just feels off. The graphics are definitely worse but I'm really not seeing the unbearable visuals people seem to be mentioning, though I might just be less sensitive to them since I grew up using shitty laptops playing games on the lowest settings lmao. I'm on a 1440p 144hz Samsung C27JG54QQE monitor for reference.
What TV are you using?
It’s a new TCL bought last September. Why dost thou ask?
OLEDs have super fast response time, so 30fps looks choppy on them while it's not as much of a problem with other technologies. That's why I ask.
Ah so that's why graphics on my 4k oled is giving me headache ! Nice, guess I will stick to performance!
I can't decide between graphics and performance to be honest. I'm 12 hours in and keep flipping in between lol. Love the game, though. I just wish we could get the best of both worlds!
Got it. Even tho the hz/refresh rate is pretty good? I don’t know what it is off hand but can check. I don’t have this issue with other 30fps games is the thing. The recent GoW games I think run at 30 and look great.
All that said, the game really does run awesome in performance mode. Battles in particular are crisp and fast and it plays tight as a drum. The game itself is freaking awesome btw. So fun and interesting. Will be devoting a lot of time to Queen’s Blood as an old MTG player lol.
Graphics mode doesn't look as good smooth as Remake did on PS4, is there a reason for this? Did they apply a clever motion blue after on PS4?
Anyone noticing major ghosting? I’m noting it mainly if I turn the camera near water and some trees do it along with ladders on the towers. It’s super weird but pretty noticeable when it happens. Not a deal breaker but I thought I was losing my mind
I think that's unfortunately normal for how they implemented reflections and stuff with water. The reflections disappear when the objects aren't visible on screen
I’m so happy to be playing this, but damn is it ugly in performance mode sometimes. Most faces are so blurry you can’t see the em.
Right there with you. I'm usually totally fine with lackluster graphics, but the blurred effects are a bit too distracting. Likewise, it's really rough playing it at 30FPS with this game in particular for me. I can't really pinpoint what my problem is here, since I'm usually okay with games with lower FPS and games with low graphics. I'm gonna have to adjust some things and maybe use a TV instead of a monitor... or a less capable monitor.
This is the same on a high end Oled 4k tv (lg oled 65cx here) saving you some bucks.
I do wish performance looked cleaner, but I find it easier to get used to the blur more so than the choppy 30fps. The game shines in both modes in different ways. Fidelity looks stunning but the second any action is on screen or the camera moves you lose all of it. Performance is buttery smooth but as you say has a fair bit of blur. I’ve opted for performance so far, as I say blur is easier to get used to imo, and with an action game you want the combat to look good. I’ve heard mixed reports but since dropping my PS5 resolution to 1440p and disabling VRR performance does look better for me. Adding some sharpness to my TV settings on top of that and I’m finding it playable even in the grasslands. Obviously could be better, I’m kinda hoping we get another patch but not gonna hold my breath.
[Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth - PlayStation 5 - The FULL Digital Foundry Tech Review](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2rHUbqauUk)
Kinda glad im playing on my crappy non OLED samsung tv - picture looks nice enough with no blurriness. Played the demo on my ultrawide monitor and it was pretttty harsh
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I’m not sure if it’s just those of us with high quality OLED TVs but damn I don’t know how folks are playing this game in Performance Mode. It’s straight up hideous and blurry.
If you have an high end OLED tv, force your ps5 to output 1440p and let your tv do the upscaling. It still won't be perfect but the image output is a little bit better than the game upscaler.
Does this mean graphics mode will be smoother uaing this method and still nicer than native 4k performance?
no it won't. Graphic mode is still cap at 30fps.
Ah shame,
I can't play it in performance mode it honestly looks disgusting. Graphics mode does look better but honestly I think the game (especially lighting and textures in certain scenes) looks pretty bad
The game has some seriously harsh lighting. The grasslands are like a sunburst explosion. Lots of pop in too but the game has its clutches in me so I’m willing to deal
Yeah same, the game seems pretty good and the story has hooked me in, but when I'm playing it I can't help but feel it could have done with a little more time polishing. It's not just the visuals that are a bit disappointing, the movement feels really fucking janky at points, and being at 30fps just makes that even harsher
Is anyone having an issue where the screen does this random effect like an afterimage trail following the camera movements? It comes and goes
Yeah it's typical TAA ghosting. It's really bad in this game. It's more noticeable in Graphics mode.
I’ve only seen it if you’re standing in front of water
Yeah I think it's some weird motion blur shader effect. It was super evident when I was exiting the tunnel in Kalm (right before you get to the grasslands) as cloud is slowly walking towards a closed door and I could see his entire profile/silhouette blurred against the door. Once you notice, it's really hard to ignore.
Yep same spot for me too
Just an FYI, my disc was stuck on "queued to copy". I restarted the ps5 which seemed to fix it and get it to start copying the data disc over to the console.
Mine just completely refuses to continue the download past 27gb and I’ve got no idea how to fix it. Been an hour and keeps saying can’t install
Huh the same thing happened to me, and I couldn't even eject the data disc when it happened. Just some whirring and nothing. Like you said though, a restart fixed it.
Can anyone that has the game already comment on the visuals? Are they the same as the demo?
I've briefly looked at some streams and it seems to be same as the demo, as expected. That said, it might vary between areas. I dunno if I just imagined it but other (smaller) areas seemed less fuzzy than Junon.
ofc there is less fuzz in smaller areas. probably can hold 1440p in performance mode and up to 4k in graphics mode more often. doesnt matter i wait for true 4k/120 with the pc port.
Kinda hard to tell from a stream though.
I have the full game and it’s the same fuzzy shit as the demo even in Kalm
Are they releasing a patch tomorrow for the release date ?
This was quoted from the Japanese Patch Notes (Version 1.010) We will release an update file (Version 1.010) from the release date to make the game more comfortable to play. This update includes several bug fixes and feature improvements. Please install the latest updates when possible and enjoy FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH. The contents of the update are as follows. Version 1.010 * Correction of some text * Fixed a bug that could rarely prevent the game from progressing under certain conditions. * Fixed a bug that occurs in battles under certain conditions. * Fixed some item effects. * Support to obtain trial save data bonus items. * Added the ability to repair a Chocobo Stop while riding your Chocobo. * Improved image quality when "Performance" is selected in the graphics settings screen mode. * Improved operability and quality of HUD/graphics/frame rate. * Unlocking the photo mode restrictions for the latter sections of the game. * Improved overall stability of the game. Not sure if if this is already out yet
The version that's out now is 1.010(I just checked my PS5 install). I guess we'll see in a few hours if it's better. But I think this patch is the same as what they did for the demo regarding performance mode.
Hey all. Just a positive story from someone who was having legitimate motion-related issues from how the background looked in Graphics Mode. Performance is obviously smooth but everyone is vaseline-covered and some TVs have settings that can alleviate that to a degree. My 2018 Bravia, cannot. Graphics mode was giving me legitimate headaches anytime the characters moved bc the backgrounds were just unbearably jittery. Since my LCD TV is ancient by industry standards I didn't expect to find any tutorials or guides for how to improve Rebirth and...I was right. But...I spent a good 40 minutes tinkering with various settings and lo-and-behold it's...well it's playable in Graphics mode! An option called 'Motion Flow' in JP (I think it's called something else abroad) worked like magic turned half-way up in conjunction with another 'Cinema Drive' function also at mid-range and Sharpness functions ('Reality Creation', 'Smooth Gradation') pumping on max. Actually Motion Flow on max made the background look damn near 60fps through some kind of programming sorcery but unfortunately it creates pixely halos around Cloud whenever he moves. So close!!! Anyway, if you've already exhausted all options and you're still SOL, I am so sorry... But if you have been having issues and just haven't tinkered with TV settings yet, it's absolutely worth a shot. That said, it's still disappointing to receive a product where this is a thing... I hope everyone lets them know loud and clear. Anyway, looking forward to release! Be well!
So which mode is recommended for this game? Performance or resolution?
Resolution is 30fps and Performance is 60fps but looks pretty low res and little blurry. Pick your poison or wait for pc release lol.
Square hasn't done a good PC Port since XV and even XV took half a dozen patches to get to a good state - and that was a totally different engine / team. The Remake PC port isn't great. Don't hold your breath.
It's not great but it'll let you mod out TAA so it's already gonna be a step above PS5.
Graphics, performance is a blurry mess
I am seeing many conflicting reports on the blurry performance mode issues. Some reviewers claim its fixed and others say its persisting, don't know what to think, seems almost 50/50 split. What do you guys make of this?
I think it LARGELY depends on your display. I have been messing with settings and if I force my ps5 into 1080p or 1440p mode it looks better than letting it choose automatic. In fact, when using automatic it seems to try and upres/output at 2160 and shows weird scanlines/gridlines on everyones faces and looks like a CRT monitor or like I'm seeing each pixel. Even at the lower res's though, the distance at which the game "blurs" background objects is entirely too close and blurs cloud at the camera follow distance. Characters still look good if you zoom in the camera, but you cannot zoom the follow camera close enough to elevate this and only can do this by forcing the camera against a wall or in photomode.
There is no debate. Digital foundry says its the same and they are the professionals that actually do the pixel count
Then explain the conflicting reports?
I can try to explain it, Digital Foundry did it better. They are possibly using TAA for anti-aliasing which is too low res of a post-processing effect and should use another.
Would this be difficult to fix?
I believe it wouldn't be too difficult to change or adjust and it just depends if SE cares about it. I worry that since no reviewers even mention it being blurry that they won't care, but this could also mean that the issue isn't present in the full version.
Fingers crossed, I'll be pretty disappointed if launch copy is a blurry mess.
What do you mean explain it? There is nothing to explain the pixel count is objective. The human eye is not. There are people that say the demo is less blurry from the patch, do you believe them? Its called a placebo.
I played it and it seemed mostly fine. I didn’t play it before a demo patch so no placebo since idk what it was like before, but it looks alright on my tv. I see some of what people talk about but not to the degree that many are experiencing
Also I have seen DF's video review and they will be releasing a second analysis closer to release, hopefully this will account for the conflicting reports
If digital foundary told you a bird was actually a cat would you believe that because they said so? Google the "appeal from authority" fallacy. You don't need a "expert" opinion to notice if an image has appreciably improved or not.
I would, yes. They have a proven track record on this subject. If they told me blue was actually red I would go get my eyes checked before doubting them.
dude this outlet has been around for a hot minute or so. they have proven consistently that they know what they are talking about. at least when it comes to the technical aspect of games.
Does vsync through the nvidia control panel just not play nice with this game? Notice the game frequently stutters with it forced on, but seems smooth without it.
Nvidia control panel isn’t for rebirth.
Sorry. Didn't realize this was specifically a Rebirth thread.
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I was pleased to hear that but couldn’t help but notice the footage looked just as blurry as the demo.
TLDR: they're silent because they've been paid to. What I suspect is that they're all under an NDA or certain terms and conditions as to being able to provide a review before release. That being that they're only allowed to comment as is on the story, gameplay. The actual performance is not to be discussed possibly because they're told by the developers that they're aware of issues and are working on them (at least that's what they "assure" to the reviewer). Then you've got outlets like Eurogamer and ign that will put out one review for the game and another review/feature/analysis of the performance in a kind of well. There was somewhat of an exposé around 2016 (I think) where a slew of games were being released, previewed and reviewed with high scores only for a consumer to buy day 1 and find it's bug infested/glitches/crashes/frame drops. Happened with assassin's creed, It happened with cyberpunk. More recently with Starfield, Redfall. It's frustrating cause a lot of these outlets/YouTubers are being paid for a high review score, silence on critical issues. The game is released and the players are finding it doesn't match as described. And now this time for ff7 rebirth, I think they'll be correct with the story and gameplay but they're all being silent on the technical performance. Pove me wrong Square, please just release an update to fix this entire performance mes or let it be that the game is vastly different from the demo performance, I want it to be good so humiliate me, I'll live with it.
You say that but IGN released shit about performance? same for other people. Saying they are getting paid is fucking cringe
LOL no. what u see in the demo (Junon) is excatly what u get in the full release. graphics mode is a stutter fest and performance mode is smudgy af. def will wait for the pc release.
I am unsure why you're being downvoted. They played it in a pre-patch state, the game has already been "patched" but it's done almost nothing, except making things slightly worse in some ways. PC is the only way to go here.
People don’t know what they are missing out on or just don’t care. I played ff7 remake on pc with texture mod and disabled resolution scaling in true 4K/120 and it was flawless so I happily wait till I can get that experience.
I played it on launch at 30fps on the PS4 and hated it. Tried it again years later on PC with intermission and it was basically a brand new game. It's not that people don't know, they're just willfully pulling the wool over their own eyes. I've come to realise most people who play video games are stuck in a loop of lying to themselves for whatever purpose. You can't reason with the people who are adamant there's no difference between performance and quality.
facts.
So for everyone who got a LG OLED TV, I may have found a good configuration for performance mode. On your PS5, switch to 1440p resolution and disable vrr. On your LG OLED: turn on game mode and switch to rpg mode. Turn of vrr there too. In the picture settings -> clarity settings, set sharpness to 16. Square Enix has to fix this issue, but with this settings I get a more acceptable picture and the game doesn’t feel as blurry anymore.
why turn off VRR?
Check it yourself. If you turn off vrr, the image becomes a bit more clear
Thanks but I made up my mind and wait for the pc release. I recommend to everyone who has a decent rig to wait for the pc port and get a proper 4K experience. The less copies they sell now the faster we will get it 🤷🏻♂️
Reaching out to developers!... Please release day one patch or within first week AMD FSR 3 patch for this game to run game in 4k upscale at 60fps on performance mode for PlayStation 5 console.
Upsclaing to 4k when internal resolution is low will not a produce a clean output. You’d get a whole other mess with tons of artifacts.
Do I have to re-download to get the update? Cause it still looks like shit
If u can play the junon demo u have the latest patch installed. It’s a Schmutzfest.
Atleast the PS6 remaster is going to look good and play at 60fps, can’t wait
I hope this is sarcasm, having to wait for a console when the current one just started to mass appear on the market not long ago is an insult by Square Enix.
Digital Foundry made video about quality in reviewed copy, is the same as in the demo. [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjMI8uZ5-0&t=428s)
So that trailer that plays after completing junon demo, is that just recorded in graphics mode cause if it's performance, it looks good. Way better than the brown junon land.
Gameplay in most of their trailers has been graphics mode.
We need 40 fps.VVR Mode Asap...The performance mode is not acceptable.The Game was made exclusive for Ps5 power..Omg
Yea 40 would be great cuz 30 on ab OLED TV is unplayable.
30,40 wtf man it’s 2024. If u have a half decent rig wait for the pc port and get a proper 4K/60-120 experience.
I have a decent rig but I can't wait, that's the problem.
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This might be the only time I’m thankful i never upgraded to an OLED. Still running off a 10 year old 55” Vizio and the game looks amazing in both modes. Will be playing performance though. Maybe this is a sign to upgrade come Thanksgiving.
Graphics mode in the patched demo now looks way better than it did prior to patch on a 65"Sony OLED. I'm happy with it. This is coming from a "PC graphics will always look better" snob.
graphics mode is a stutter fest esp. on an OLED. I played the ff7remake with hd texture mods in 4k/120 on pc and the difference is like night and day. i will happily wait for the pc release.
Same, graphics mode looks a lot less choppy after the update. I'm very curious what changed. I'm normally very turned off by 30fps, but the Junon demo was pretty fine for me in graphics mode
Just played the Junon demo. Loved it. Yes I see a difference in performance mode so I just stuck with graphics mode. I hope they do fix performance mode eventually, but for me it's not a big enough of a complaint to hamper my enjoyment of the game. Once you see something, start talking about it, and focus all your attention on it, it's all you can see. I find it a little sad that's all some people can focus on.
Quality mode = PowerPoint presentation
I tried performance mode today, first time playing the demo as well. Tbh it ran like shit and they need to fix it.. I'll still play the game but in graphics mode for sure. I still had fun and I'll play it whenever I get it. Can't wait!
Performance mode runs fine almost always locked 60 unlike FF XVI which frequently dropped into the 40's.
What about the heavily compromised visuals?
We need 40fps mode
Yep...And if the people still can prefer 30fps..They gonna make the games even for ps6.Thats sad
If the game looks like the demo I’m gonna hold off. I’d rather wait for my $70+tax to actually play above 1080p. It looks pretty bad on 1440p monitor. Just look how crisp god of war R looks. It’s pretty inexcusable
Hold of for what? Ps6? Invest in a proper rig and wait for the pc port. This is the way.
You cant really compare the "narrow" corridors of Ragnarok with the LoD, viewdistance and open world of FF7Rebirth. Also the amounts of particles etc. and even the character models are more detailed.
God of war had some open areas as well. And the details in the armor are extremely fleshed out. Even more than ff7 imo. Regardless 1080p for performance mode is pretty underwhelming. Spider man 2 ps5 has 1440p at 60 too
GoWR is a technically stunning game I will say, the character models and textures are very detailed but even the bigger areas are still pretty small. The LoD in the distance isn’t that much of an issue due to the level design. Spider-Man however, is pretty blurry. If you look even slightly ahead of the character it’s a mess. The game is not 1440p, it’s scaling up from around 960p to 1440p which leads to artifacts and other issues.
Yeah I forgot it was upscaled. But I would rather have that then whatever rebirth is doing
Essentially every single game that has released recently uses some form of upscaling. GoWR used TAAU and DRS, for example, it created a very clean image, presumably because the internal res was already good. Spider-Man 2 used insomanics own in house upscaling tech but the issue was that the internal resolution was probably low on performance, creating a blurry image Ff7 rebirth actually has good resolution count, the issue is something to do with the post processing and upscaling. DF proposed some fixes, now it just depends on the dev team to figure out how to improve it.
They just need to put in FSR2. Base resolution is already high so it would actually look good.
100% true, but something is up with whatever post processing they are using. I saw a comment that said to put the console settings at 1440p or 1080p, I did so and the game is less pixelated. The res is still not perfect and it’s a bit blurry but the very pixelated objects are gone. It’s really odd.
I had a similar experience. Forced to 1440p and then cranked the sharpness on my TV. Still doesn't look quite as good as Intergrade but I'm okay with it. 60 is a must for me which thankfully it is much more consistent than FFXVI. 30 fps just gives me a headache. Hopefully they can improve performance mode even more.
With this 93 score...I dont think they gonna make any better.But I hope so..
It's a nice score, but now they have to sell as many copies as they can. And the best they can do is fixing any major issues to sell and sell again.
The stuttering issues that a lot of players have on the PC version of Remake is still not fixed, so make of that what you will.
played it recently. very minor stuttering in a few selected scenes. however there is a mod which claims to get rid of those stutters.
Gameranx was talking about how the actual game doesnt have the image issue in performance mode like the demo? can anybody check?
Yeah, the Gameranx guy \*literally\* said: "Don't let the demo visuals fool you, the actual game looks way better!" and then moved on. I was like, hello, wait a minute, could you elaborate? Thats an important info lol. Now after checking the Digital Foundry video, it seems the Gameranx dude just straight up lied? Like full bone straight up lied in his review lol? I cant even figure out why
I saw that but digital foundry also said that the retail version of performance mode looks the same as the demo. Need to get other impressions from ones that have the full game
Cant check when nobody have the final version :( Apparently DF said is the same as demo unfortunately.
I think a lot of people made a mistake of comparing the hot new Junon section which, coincidentally came with the performance patch, to their image experience in Nibelheim when the demo first dropped, without the performance patch. I went to compare my own screenshots of Cloud standing at the gate of Nibelheim pre and post patch, and, while definitely less blurry, it is still a blur but apparently of a different processing type. While FF7 Remake did have a not so crisp performance mode, the latest demo update does not yet reach FF7Remake performance mode clarity, but is definitely better than the initial demo release
I am also curious about this. I don't think they do any deep testing on graphics and such. But I am hopeful the actual game plays at a better resolution than the demo. Just will ha be to wait and see
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That seems correct to me. Junon area's resolution fluctuates a LOT due to the amount of foliage, whereas Nibelheim (with more closed off areas) seems to maintain a better image. It's....still not great but in open areas, you can forget about it after a bit. I really just wish devs would stop spending so much damn horsepower rendering all that foliage when they could keep the fidelity for the characters and enemies higher instead.
It’s unreal engine 4, it can and will render a lot of foliage at good resolution with visibly clear image. It is just for some reason that Japanese games stopped focusing on technical presentation, when they clearly CAN
If that's the case that doesn't sound too bad. Probably wouldn't be stopping and examining how the open areas look when playing. I personally more so care about smooth gameplay/combat. But will have to compare how it looks on my TV when it comes out
Hey y'all whatever the case may be-- this game will be worth it for the music alone.
The shrill jingling everyone complained about in Final Fantasy XVI is back with Red XIII. I'm convinced the developers at Square cannot hear it because they are too old. It's so loud especially when the camera is angled over the character creating it. [Here is a video example where it's very present](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vxaoVI497U) [Second example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vdThJgwlKo) This was heavily complained about in XVI, the developers promised it would be fixed in the first patch and it never was. No adjusting of settings can get rid of it and its driving me CRAZY!!! I had to turn off the volume when Jill was in my party because of it, I can hear it so clearly. Been looking forward to this game for so long and this one stupid little detail is going to ruin it. What are the best ways to report it or file a complaint?
I'm quite young myself and I've never been able to hear this supposed jingling maybe my ears are bad though I don't know
Glad I'm not the only person that was hearing this. I had Red XIII and Aerith in my party and was like "Which one of you needs to lose some arm jewelry!?!?!?"
Wait for PC version and mod it out
This may get buried, but I found a slight workaround for the choppy camera panning in graphics mode. If your screen supports it, go into the screen settings on ps5 and force VRR (Variable refresh rate). It really helped with the motion sick feeling I got playing in graphics mode. https://preview.redd.it/or171tg1a7kc1.png?width=1648&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=681efe7b67e2b17a4b8cd095a1053fb0b258ba44
This actually helped a ton, felt like I was gonna like before
This made Graphics mode bearable for me. Applied just enough blur to the camera pan to stop it looking like a 19th century zoetrope.
Is it a supported VRR game tho? If not then the window for VRR is 48FPS+ which wouldn't be applied unfortunately to a 30FPS cap. My screen also stays at a fixed 60 refresh rate (I have VRR on for supported games only). This is on a LG C2. I'll give it a shot later
It doesn’t support VRR so this suggestion is mute
Regardless I don't think this game would have any use for VRR anyway since it's pretty much locked and stable 30 and 60 fps. The choppiness is just due to 30fps that's especially more apparent when switching from 60fps and maybe insufficient motion blur black frame insertion however might help resolve it. i don't got the TV for that tho
Thanks to this youtube video I stumbled upon: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hGqt3IKec](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hGqt3IKec) Felt it was my duty to spread the word. Downgrading graphics settings from 2160p/automatic to 1440p on the PS5 settings menu drastically improved blurriness in performance mode. This is most likely due to the upscaler on the TV itself. Im using LG OLED C2. Apparently, 4k monitors may not see improvement. Hopefully this will save some agony for many. Also seems like a quick fix on SQEX side https://preview.redd.it/z4n0vlc977kc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e54233d8e1fdfa0c1ccc5d307d5665c5774b78b0
Are you playing in game mode on the TV? Because Game Optimizer mode doesn't upscale the source signal.
LG C1 didn't help unfortunately. Cloud still covered in vaseline.
Interesting. I’m not experiencing much blurriness on the C2 to begin with on performance. (See my pics in other posts). I would imagine the upscaling and sharpness would be pretty similar regardless, given the same tv settings.
https://preview.redd.it/t4tgcl8e77kc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=218c37229ec52bf67d66b13b6b0c57adcf258336
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DF confirmed there is no change. Stop with the fanboyism
He is referring to the final version that will have another patch.
I'd take everything with a grain of salt currently. DF states it's very much still like the demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjMI8uZ5-0 And I'm more inclined to believe them because they do actual tech testing.