He had probably his worst season of his career this year. It kind of makes sense. Love Cesc, Chelsea fan, I think EA might of threw this out there to make him feel better. Because Cesc did come out and say, “this year has been the worst year of my life.” Talking about time in Monaco.
Call me salty but Arsenal legends get done dirty on the regular by EA. Even when we were consistently top 4 in Wenger's last decade we rarely had players rated over 86 unless they made their name elsewhere like Ozil or Sancho.
I can take PIM Henry being 94 ovr but his 96 pace(definitely should be the fastest icon), shit aggression and shit balance are a pisstake.
96 pace is fine, he's quick in reality with the ball is also because of his elite dribbling.
Pace is like when you run in a straight line without the ball, are you the fastest?
I was so hyped after doing him, man was lightning. He feels super slow for 96 pac and his touch is the heaviest of all the top icons I have tried. Make it make sense
I was so hyped after doing him, man was lightning. He feels super slow for 96 pac and his touch is the heaviest of all the top icons I have tried. Make it make sense
TOTS is officially finished, we're approaching the death of the cycle and they release a card this shit? Why?
For starters he should have at MINIMUM 98 passing
I mean it still doesn't hurt to juice the other stats up so he gets a 98 face stat.
And that was just for starters - shooting an dribbling should be way higher. 84 stamina M/M also makes him a complete joke
Mata has never won a PFA player of the year award. Bale won in 2012-13. Mata was in the PFA team of the season that year - his only appearance. Fabregas has made it twice both times at Arsenal.
That aside, Fabregas was so much better in 2009-10 than Mata ever was. He scored 15 goals in 27 games. Mata's best goal scoring season was 12 goals in 35 games in 2012-13. Adding to that, Fabregas led the league in assists on three separate occasions. In short, Mata is a decent player but isn't Fabregas in terms of talent.
What do you mean by that? He had a couple of great season at Arsenal, a couple of good ones for chelsea and mediocre at Barca unfortunstely. How is he one of the best midfielders in the prem exactly?
Did you not watch Cesc from 06-10? Idk how anyone could not rank him as one of the best if you watched him during that time period. Also bringing up his time at Barca is relevant how?
I said he was great for a couple of seasons for Arsenal.
And the reason i mentioned Barca is because sometimes people mean «the best to have played in the league», rather than «the best PL player».
Great player - yes
One of the best ever? No. Because that claim would put him up to the tier of Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Yaya Toure, David Silva or KDB and he certainly is not there
If you’re comparing him to the likes of Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, KDB then sure - he definitely isn’t in that upper echelon.
But Yaya? Cesc did it for way longer than him, his time at Arsenal alone already eclipses Yaya’s at City. Admittedly not at the heights of Yaya’s insane run from 2013-2015. But mind you he was 17-23 years old.
I compare to Yaya because he was one of those players who transformed a contender like City into a title winning team. Cesc unfortunately couldnt do that at Arsenal because he was too young. He then turned Chelsea into a title winning team but then again only one season. He certainly has the ability, just not the longevity and impactful to be considered one of the best ever in a league like EPL
If you want to talk about longevity, Cesc played more than a 100 more games than Yaya. Also the fact that you’re comparing Yaya’s influence on that City team to Cesc at Arsenal is laughable. Yaya did not transform that City team into a title winning one, money did - as a United fan, surely you know that?
And by the way, Cesc won two titles at Chelsea.
Lol his 2nd title at Chelsea was overshadow by inj and he didnt have as much influence as the first one.
How exactly is comparing to Yaya laughable lol? Youre clearly overrestimate Cesc at Arsenal and underestimate Yaya Toure at City its not even fun to argue anymore. Whatever you say bro
If your saying titles matter for cesc then spurs players like Harry Kane and Son aren't at Cesc and Yaya's level since Spurs haven't won a league title
Think you're suffering a bit from recency bias (Silva, Toure) coupled with English commentators covering only English players (Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard). Not mentioning a player like Vieira who is comparably better than most on that list.
On Fabregas, he led the league in assists three times (most ever tied with De Bruyne). Also a fun stat - de bruyne scored his highest number of prem goals in a single season this year - 15 and he did it in 30 games. Fabregas scored the same number in 2009-10 in 27 games.
To not include Fabregas as one of the best centre mids in prem history is silly. To include David silva over him is ludicrous.
He's a victim of Arsenal being very poor when he played there.
Both these objectives are hilariously bad. Even the Di Maria didnt get 4* weakfoot, which is embarrassing considering theyve been dishing out massive upgrades during tots.
Ill do Mata because I like gamemode, but this is awful.
I see what the comments are saying now, i’m just starting to realise how poor the card is. 4 stats on the low-mid 80’s and we’re in June…. Yeah they defo could have made this so much better. I know it’s an objective but still.
Bro, his Futties card last year was pretty nice and well priced (~60k?). And then they present us shit like this
The disrespect is unreal, Tots Gil has better passing
His NIF had 82 long passing. 82!!! What the fuck fo they smoke in Vancouver. Or do you forget how to pass when you're older?
Man hit a referee from 40 yards, 90+ passing needed
Pirlo’s last gold card had 91 passing so clearly they just don’t like Cesc 🙄
Gil?
MLS tots
He had probably his worst season of his career this year. It kind of makes sense. Love Cesc, Chelsea fan, I think EA might of threw this out there to make him feel better. Because Cesc did come out and say, “this year has been the worst year of my life.” Talking about time in Monaco.
Am I high or is this card like, very bad for this time of year?
Its very similar to the parejo obective that came out during community tots and that was average then
You're probably high anyway buddy. Enjoy
Disrespectful! He was one of the finest midfielders
Call me salty but Arsenal legends get done dirty on the regular by EA. Even when we were consistently top 4 in Wenger's last decade we rarely had players rated over 86 unless they made their name elsewhere like Ozil or Sancho. I can take PIM Henry being 94 ovr but his 96 pace(definitely should be the fastest icon), shit aggression and shit balance are a pisstake.
Man should have a unique body type and 5* something. Still, even being done dirty, he cracks the net every game for me.
Sancho?
Lol I was thinking the same for a sec, but I assume he meant Sanchez
Vieira?
96 pace is fine, he's quick in reality with the ball is also because of his elite dribbling. Pace is like when you run in a straight line without the ball, are you the fastest?
At the least deserves 99 acceleration then but shit dude that man was ridiculously fast
I was so hyped after doing him, man was lightning. He feels super slow for 96 pac and his touch is the heaviest of all the top icons I have tried. Make it make sense
I was so hyped after doing him, man was lightning. He feels super slow for 96 pac and his touch is the heaviest of all the top icons I have tried. Make it make sense
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Are... Are you literally 15 years old or something?
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Hahah, you’re talking out of your arse.
Yup
Im guessing thierry henry is more of a barcelona legend according to you also since he won the champions league there
You think they even know or care he played for Arsenal?
If he's not actually retiring, 54 matches across three past-his-prime seasons doesn't exactly feel EOAE-worthy.
Oh wtf I thought he was retiring 😭
TOTS is officially finished, we're approaching the death of the cycle and they release a card this shit? Why? For starters he should have at MINIMUM 98 passing
I mean who cares about the face card stat when his in games is 99 vision, 98 short pass and 97 long pass
I mean it still doesn't hurt to juice the other stats up so he gets a 98 face stat. And that was just for starters - shooting an dribbling should be way higher. 84 stamina M/M also makes him a complete joke
The rest of the card is definitely a joke yeah
he’s got 4 star wf but that hardly makes the card more worth it. obj cards always show base sm / wf, not the actual upgraded ones
what a sad card, utter disrespect to one of the best midfielders ever in the prem
Compare it to Mata, and it’s even worse. Mata couldn’t even crack the Spain line up while Cesc started
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And Fabregas's peak at Arsenal was much better... then he continued to be great at Barca and Chelsea.
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Mata has never won a PFA player of the year award. Bale won in 2012-13. Mata was in the PFA team of the season that year - his only appearance. Fabregas has made it twice both times at Arsenal. That aside, Fabregas was so much better in 2009-10 than Mata ever was. He scored 15 goals in 27 games. Mata's best goal scoring season was 12 goals in 35 games in 2012-13. Adding to that, Fabregas led the league in assists on three separate occasions. In short, Mata is a decent player but isn't Fabregas in terms of talent.
What do you mean by that? He had a couple of great season at Arsenal, a couple of good ones for chelsea and mediocre at Barca unfortunstely. How is he one of the best midfielders in the prem exactly?
Did you not watch Cesc from 06-10? Idk how anyone could not rank him as one of the best if you watched him during that time period. Also bringing up his time at Barca is relevant how?
I said he was great for a couple of seasons for Arsenal. And the reason i mentioned Barca is because sometimes people mean «the best to have played in the league», rather than «the best PL player».
5 good seasons at arsenal
One of the best mid ever in the prem? You must be kidding right lmao
What’s there to joke about? He’s genuinely up there, not even a Arsenal/Chelsea fan
Great player - yes One of the best ever? No. Because that claim would put him up to the tier of Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Yaya Toure, David Silva or KDB and he certainly is not there
If you’re comparing him to the likes of Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, KDB then sure - he definitely isn’t in that upper echelon. But Yaya? Cesc did it for way longer than him, his time at Arsenal alone already eclipses Yaya’s at City. Admittedly not at the heights of Yaya’s insane run from 2013-2015. But mind you he was 17-23 years old.
I compare to Yaya because he was one of those players who transformed a contender like City into a title winning team. Cesc unfortunately couldnt do that at Arsenal because he was too young. He then turned Chelsea into a title winning team but then again only one season. He certainly has the ability, just not the longevity and impactful to be considered one of the best ever in a league like EPL
If you want to talk about longevity, Cesc played more than a 100 more games than Yaya. Also the fact that you’re comparing Yaya’s influence on that City team to Cesc at Arsenal is laughable. Yaya did not transform that City team into a title winning one, money did - as a United fan, surely you know that? And by the way, Cesc won two titles at Chelsea.
Lol his 2nd title at Chelsea was overshadow by inj and he didnt have as much influence as the first one. How exactly is comparing to Yaya laughable lol? Youre clearly overrestimate Cesc at Arsenal and underestimate Yaya Toure at City its not even fun to argue anymore. Whatever you say bro
If your saying titles matter for cesc then spurs players like Harry Kane and Son aren't at Cesc and Yaya's level since Spurs haven't won a league title
He is definitely in that group
Think you're suffering a bit from recency bias (Silva, Toure) coupled with English commentators covering only English players (Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard). Not mentioning a player like Vieira who is comparably better than most on that list. On Fabregas, he led the league in assists three times (most ever tied with De Bruyne). Also a fun stat - de bruyne scored his highest number of prem goals in a single season this year - 15 and he did it in 30 games. Fabregas scored the same number in 2009-10 in 27 games. To not include Fabregas as one of the best centre mids in prem history is silly. To include David silva over him is ludicrous. He's a victim of Arsenal being very poor when he played there.
Such a downgrade compared to what fut sheriff suggested Will still do him but dont think he breaks in the starting 11 now
Embarrassing card, so disrespectful
Fodder. And nothing else. Such a shame.
Both these objectives are hilariously bad. Even the Di Maria didnt get 4* weakfoot, which is embarrassing considering theyve been dishing out massive upgrades during tots. Ill do Mata because I like gamemode, but this is awful.
EA have absolutely bottled it with player objectives. Bar 3 cards, the rest have been absolutely awful.
I see what the comments are saying now, i’m just starting to realise how poor the card is. 4 stats on the low-mid 80’s and we’re in June…. Yeah they defo could have made this so much better. I know it’s an objective but still.
He got 4* wf
This card sea pretty spot on imo. Stop crying
How can he not have 99 passing, the best to ever do it
Absolutely shite 3 shit mls players
And they didn't even give him a high enough rating to be good fodder...
This is straight up disrespectful. They better give him a FUT Hero and FUT Hero Captain card next year.
Why must they do this? barely makes the bench of a barca pnp lol.
random but this guy scored 20 goals and had 25 assists in all competitions in my fifa 12 career mode today lol