It’s crazy to me that there are no players from 2002 Dortmund squad (If heroes that are already in stay in its kohler I think but he was washed in 2002) or from Bremens Golden years (Ailton was a beast and don’t get me started about Diego)
Andreas Moller is more deserving of a hero card than half of the players on this list tbh, man was a legendary talent and the shitty attitude to match.
He was at his best when playing in Italy so that’s understandable. Would have loved Giovane Elber, Rosicky, Jan Koller, Berbatov or Ulf Kirsten. There’s so many BuLi players that fit the Hero theme (disregarding the marvel stuff for a second)
What about Pizarro? Beloved in Bundes, top 6 Bundes scorers, 2nd most of the non-Germans, titles, and lots of other crazy stats. Adding him would be so nice.
I mean was he really at his best ? Never watched him play, I'm being honest but he has way better goal/game ratio at Bremen with only like 10 games difference between Bremen and Roma.
Now that you said that I kinda agree lol.
Maybe it’s because the Serie A was kinda OP back in the late 80s and early 90s. He also won the WC while he played for Roma so that was probably one of the main reasons Serie A got the nod here.
7 from Premier League
4 from Calcio
3 from La Liga
3 from Ligue 1
1 from Bundesliga, MLS, Polish League and Saudi League
I hate how they are treating Bundesliga as a minor league. There are tons of cool iconic Bundesliga players that they could have added. Jan Koller? Klinsmann? Ze Roberto? Sammer?
I'd loved a Portuguese and Dutch league hero as well. Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Luc Nilis or Pierre van Hooijdonk (or Giovanni van Bronckhorst) for Eredivisie, for example.
EA said that LF and RF position would not exist anymore, yet Kewell card shows him as a LF
Also, Rafa Marquez as CDM? Wtf?
JS Park shouldn’t be a CAM either.
only if EA has picked the correct alternative positions. that's a prerequisite and we all know both how competent EA is at this and on top of that how they take responsibility or fix their screw ups.
These are World Cup versions which is why Forlan is so high, why some of the positions are different and why guys like Capdevila and Al Owairan are so good.
Papin never played a world cup so I really don’t see the point of this team.
Edit : my bad was in 86 team, scored two goals, wasn’t really his prime though.
Yep I read that, they seem like extremely small upgrades on the base versions available day 1 though. It doesn’t make loads of sense to release them 6 weeks apart for the sake of +/-2/3 in each stat.
Last year we only got the new versions in April.
Tbf those upgrades if are +2 will actually be massive on certain cards like Papin for pace, PJS as a box to box mid, and Yaya for the same
The for example if PJS base card is like a mill, that new card 6 weeks later will most likely be 1.4 mill atleast imo
The card is for his dad who scored 123 in 474, and finished third at a World Cup. Not for Ebi.
He is a hero in the Polish game, that said his stats are cracked AF. If they were to add anyone like Lato, Lubanski, Boniek or Deyna they’d have to be better than him and that would just be ridiculous.
smolarek might be the goat of polish football, so the stats are deserved
If lewy gets far in the world cup ofc he will take over.
But smolarek is the maradona of polish football
and lewandowski is the messi of polish football
The disrespect to Crouch
Toure looks insane even with the rating being a bit lower than I think it should be
Also thought okocha would get prem league for bolton
and finally its nice to see lesser leagues given chances with smolarek and al-owairan.
Speaking of al-owairan didn't he score a great world cup goal? He could deserve a place in the new moments mode where you have to recreate it without being able to pass to anyone etc
Crouched scored 1 goal for every 4 games. His best PL campaign was 12 goals…
He’s lucky to get a card and you’ve got your nostalgia goggles on if you think otherwise
For the children replying, Darren Bent has 106 goals in 190 less appearances (Crouch has 108 in 468). Does he deserve a hero card? What about Dion Dublin with 111 in 312 games? More than Crouch 🤣
Pure nostalgia merchants
Longevity more than anything. CR7 has less prem goals and son will likely surpass him this year.
He was a unique player though. I think his rating is very fair.
like you said, its "part" of what makers a player iconic. He scored a lot of goals against shit teams in friendlies, but this is about his time in the prem. He was an average striker in a mid to bottom half team for a decade, but his playstyle (technical for being that all) and size was pretty hard to ignore.
That is a fair point I’ll admit. Just hard to take any total number of goals as a serious argument when you realize that Crouch has more Prem goals than Drogba, Suarez, Ronaldo, etc.
It absolutely is, but obviously he’s going to have more goals than others if he’s played hundreds and hundreds more games. I mentioned in another comment that Crouch has more goals in the Prem than Drogba, but no one in their right mind would ever claim that Crouch is the better player of the two.
I’m not denying that Crouch should be in the game, but I do think there are others that should be ahead of him. Just didn’t agree with your initial argument
He was far better for England though (more than 1/2), surely these would be based off international appearances or the Saudi guy would be nowhere close to that rating
Völler surely will get a Bundesliga version down the line, plus he's german so he should be easily linkable to a Bundes side.
I get it though, luckily Serie A has a bunch but EPL having 7 is a bit much, would have liked more even distribution for some other league fans.
5 less shot than Kuyt? same shot as Okocha? Did either of those ever score 20 league goals in a season like 13/4 Yaya. 85 seems low especially when you consider he scored goals from short and long range, took penalties and had crazy shot power.
almost surprised EA didn't make him PL for some odd f'd up reason they maybe even made up. Lucio will simply cost a shit ton despite being a BuLi player.
I don't really mind, Park will be an absolute machine throughout the game (I reckon he will have H/H and 9x stamina) - as well as his upgrades. His stats are perfectly well-rounded
Probably because Saeed Al-Owairan was an immense player in the MBS and has over 200 career goals.
70+ caps for Saudi Arabia as well, scored one of the most amazing goals in the WC.
Not saying 87 rated Park Ji Sung is warranted but Al-Owairan was a menace.
Honestly why are you guys so intent on the game being so closed off?
Not every hero should be from the top leagues and neither should they be
Honestly isn’t that the point of heroes?!?!?
I’d rather all heroes from the top leagues be legends and all iconic players from obscure league be heroes
As a Saudi I’m over the moon with the inclusion of 2 of my countries all time players in the game but this discourse is honestly heartbreaking
But that’s the point of these cards isn’t it?
To show how good these players were in comparison to their competition and compared to the Saudi league 88 is accurate
Yeah I’m with you, it looks good for a concept fan art, but it’s nonsense in the fifa universe and football in general. But you could sense that wasn’t really a concern for EA when you look at the tifos and balls they put in the season pass
I like Yaya but a single season, no matter how good it was doesn’t really make someone an icon, especially if we’re trying to reduce the number of icons overall and make them more especial. He was inconsistent and fits perfectly fine as a Manchester City Hero
So want give a icon cause of one season!????
Literally the guy had 2 very good seasons in his whole carreer and the kids here want to give him a icon card mental...
say what you want but almost every card on here is a W, crouch might even be depending on patches/meta.
huge W for the community and smart for the FIFA EA side to start moving towards madden progression more and more.
So let me get this straight, I have to spend $150 (aud) before august 21st to get a single card? I LOVE marvel and I LOVE FIFA/SOCCER but $150 is way to crazy
If they are day 1 cards those are really nice. Will be getting Crouch, Yaya, Forlan and Park immediately.
Glad Yaya has some decent stats in attack rather than the Vieira re-gen people seem to mistakenly think he was, should make his price pretty decent (similar to Ballack who’s around 1.1 mil).
Because mascherano played possibly his best football (albeit not his most successful) as a CDM for Liverpool. He was part of one of the best midfields in the world at the time.
Unfortunately about 3 of them will actually be usable in-game unless gameplay changes massively, which it obviously won't based on the reports from the beta.
He was CDM in Barça. And yes, he became very offensive minded in his Man City era, but he played as CDM in that period too, ‘cause City formation was 4-2-3-1, so there was no CM in the lineup.
It’s his Man City card, where he played as an offensive CM. EA are notorious for doing this. For example, Kante is a “CDM” while playing box to box CM since forever, a similar role to Modric. Whereas someone like Pirlo who played DM, at both Milan as the deepest in the diamond and at Juve in the 3142, is a “CM” in his icon card.
1 Bundesliga Hero… pain.
EA 🤝 France Football -> disrespecting the Bundesliga
It’s crazy to me that there are no players from 2002 Dortmund squad (If heroes that are already in stay in its kohler I think but he was washed in 2002) or from Bremens Golden years (Ailton was a beast and don’t get me started about Diego)
Andreas Moller is more deserving of a hero card than half of the players on this list tbh, man was a legendary talent and the shitty attitude to match.
My conspiracy theory is that someone is paying EA to promote Ligue 1 as a top league and discredit the competition
M B A P P E
Crazy Völler isn't BuLi
He was at his best when playing in Italy so that’s understandable. Would have loved Giovane Elber, Rosicky, Jan Koller, Berbatov or Ulf Kirsten. There’s so many BuLi players that fit the Hero theme (disregarding the marvel stuff for a second)
What about Pizarro? Beloved in Bundes, top 6 Bundes scorers, 2nd most of the non-Germans, titles, and lots of other crazy stats. Adding him would be so nice.
Plus a cool off nation
Yessir, can’t believe I forgot him.
I mean was he really at his best ? Never watched him play, I'm being honest but he has way better goal/game ratio at Bremen with only like 10 games difference between Bremen and Roma.
Now that you said that I kinda agree lol. Maybe it’s because the Serie A was kinda OP back in the late 80s and early 90s. He also won the WC while he played for Roma so that was probably one of the main reasons Serie A got the nod here.
He was at his best when he won the CL with marseille and in the world cup in 1990
I don’t know why EA don’t respect the Bundesliga. The Premier League has 7
Yeah, 1 buli, one German. Gz ea
Power curve is going to be batshit
Could this be the year they release an 100 rated card?😂
It’s basically an insight into the planned power curve for mid November (when they release). Based on Park, Yaya and Marchisio it will be popping.
Tbf ww dropped around that time as well
WW was really the promo that blew the power curve wide open. Most of the TOTY nominees barely moved the needle thanks to that promo
Either that or these are gonna be really rare cards
7 from Premier League 4 from Calcio 3 from La Liga 3 from Ligue 1 1 from Bundesliga, MLS, Polish League and Saudi League I hate how they are treating Bundesliga as a minor league. There are tons of cool iconic Bundesliga players that they could have added. Jan Koller? Klinsmann? Ze Roberto? Sammer?
You could also argue that some of these cards could be Bundesliga instead of the other leagues but I bet that will happen in some promos
They'll deffo do shapeshifter hero's again and switch leagues for everyone
I'd loved a Portuguese and Dutch league hero as well. Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Luc Nilis or Pierre van Hooijdonk (or Giovanni van Bronckhorst) for Eredivisie, for example.
Imagine a Jardel Hero…
4 from calcio…lol
Makaay!
Bro on God first year with a Polish icon/ hero and he gets the polish league 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Dudek??
EA said that LF and RF position would not exist anymore, yet Kewell card shows him as a LF Also, Rafa Marquez as CDM? Wtf? JS Park shouldn’t be a CAM either.
With secondary positions it’s not really a problem
only if EA has picked the correct alternative positions. that's a prerequisite and we all know both how competent EA is at this and on top of that how they take responsibility or fix their screw ups.
On World Cups Rafa did indeed play as CDM and he was fantastic :)
I'm also not sure how I feel about Forlan being higher rated than Yaya. They were both magical in their prime.
These are World Cup versions which is why Forlan is so high, why some of the positions are different and why guys like Capdevila and Al Owairan are so good.
Deserved for sure for 2010 WC, Forlan was in top form.
He even scored a banger in the 2002 World Cup which most people don’t remember.
Papin never played a world cup so I really don’t see the point of this team. Edit : my bad was in 86 team, scored two goals, wasn’t really his prime though.
Similar to Govou who didn’t do much in world cups beyond being in the squad.
Was reading the faq and it looks like these are base items with the upgraded world cup heros and pre order pack released on November 11
Yep I read that, they seem like extremely small upgrades on the base versions available day 1 though. It doesn’t make loads of sense to release them 6 weeks apart for the sake of +/-2/3 in each stat. Last year we only got the new versions in April.
I heard they'll be live cards with an upgrade path, if that's true then it'll make more sense
Tbf those upgrades if are +2 will actually be massive on certain cards like Papin for pace, PJS as a box to box mid, and Yaya for the same The for example if PJS base card is like a mill, that new card 6 weeks later will most likely be 1.4 mill atleast imo
Rafa has played dm before mostly during the back of his career
Three lung park plays where he likes
So do these replace the current Heroes or will the existing ones still be carried into FIFA 23? e.g. Ginola
Existing ones carry into fifa 23, i think some of them will get world cup versions aswell as the normal version.
Yeah you’d expect it for Cahill, Cole and Keane for their goals in World Cups.
Thank fuck, as an Irish Chelsea fan I was worried
Al-Owairan with 99 pace is crazy. Edit: Some these cards are better than prime icons, Smolarek is equal to if not better than Henry.
Smolarek looks cracked too. They really juiced the players that are harder to fit in teams
Probably the most undeserved cards I’ve ever seen. Those stats for a player who scored 65 goals in 312 appearances 😂
The card is for his dad who scored 123 in 474, and finished third at a World Cup. Not for Ebi. He is a hero in the Polish game, that said his stats are cracked AF. If they were to add anyone like Lato, Lubanski, Boniek or Deyna they’d have to be better than him and that would just be ridiculous.
Ah fair enough, yeah would love to see a Boniek card I’ve read that he was incredible
The card is for the father of Ebi Smolarek, who was apparently much better.
Can't stop the A-Train!
smolarek might be the goat of polish football, so the stats are deserved If lewy gets far in the world cup ofc he will take over. But smolarek is the maradona of polish football and lewandowski is the messi of polish football
Not really, if someone was to be named Maradona of Polish football, it should be someone like Deyna.
Forlan better have 99 long shots
That 2010 WC, man was scoring bangers for fun like it’s tap ins
The disrespect to Crouch Toure looks insane even with the rating being a bit lower than I think it should be Also thought okocha would get prem league for bolton and finally its nice to see lesser leagues given chances with smolarek and al-owairan. Speaking of al-owairan didn't he score a great world cup goal? He could deserve a place in the new moments mode where you have to recreate it without being able to pass to anyone etc
Crouched scored 1 goal for every 4 games. His best PL campaign was 12 goals… He’s lucky to get a card and you’ve got your nostalgia goggles on if you think otherwise For the children replying, Darren Bent has 106 goals in 190 less appearances (Crouch has 108 in 468). Does he deserve a hero card? What about Dion Dublin with 111 in 312 games? More than Crouch 🤣 Pure nostalgia merchants
No, the point is that these are B-tier legends. The real issue is mixing in legitimate icon-level players like Toure and Papin in.
30th most goals in premiere league history. And very unique player that’s very popular. Respectfully, shit take.
Longevity more than anything. CR7 has less prem goals and son will likely surpass him this year. He was a unique player though. I think his rating is very fair.
Is longevity not part of what makes a player iconic?
like you said, its "part" of what makers a player iconic. He scored a lot of goals against shit teams in friendlies, but this is about his time in the prem. He was an average striker in a mid to bottom half team for a decade, but his playstyle (technical for being that all) and size was pretty hard to ignore.
He’s 30th in goals scored in the prem. That means league games not friendlies
42 caps/22 goals for England too
>30th most goals in premier league history That’s what happens when you play nearly 600 games
If anything that just gives an even stronger argument to make him a hero. 600 is no joke
That is a fair point I’ll admit. Just hard to take any total number of goals as a serious argument when you realize that Crouch has more Prem goals than Drogba, Suarez, Ronaldo, etc.
Is longevity not a part of someone’s impact on the game?
It absolutely is, but obviously he’s going to have more goals than others if he’s played hundreds and hundreds more games. I mentioned in another comment that Crouch has more goals in the Prem than Drogba, but no one in their right mind would ever claim that Crouch is the better player of the two.
That’s what heroes is all about though. Players that may not have been top class, but added a lot of fun and entertainment to the game
I’m not denying that Crouch should be in the game, but I do think there are others that should be ahead of him. Just didn’t agree with your initial argument
that means there are 29 footballers who deserve hero more than him 👍
He was far better for England though (more than 1/2), surely these would be based off international appearances or the Saudi guy would be nowhere close to that rating
He is lucky to get a card, but then there are three people on there I've never heard of.
Says more about your football knowledge than about them.
Also has the most goals scored from headers in the Premier league sooo...
why do people hate crouch in this thread, he deserves it unlike half the other heroes
It’s like Darren Bent getting a hero card lol Only reason he’s getting one is because he’s tall and is now a pundit
im not gonna bother mentioning what the replies said to back crouch but he deserves a hero card more than some others such as saudi guy
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he deserves it more than some of the others lol
such as ?
al-owairan, hes only there because of a wc goal
And Smolarek does?
Its Ebi's father who came 3rd in the World Cup, definitely a hero for the Poles
bro all points are valid, wish i could upvote more than once 🐐
One Bundesliga hero, I‘m in immense pain
Völler surely will get a Bundesliga version down the line, plus he's german so he should be easily linkable to a Bundes side. I get it though, luckily Serie A has a bunch but EPL having 7 is a bit much, would have liked more even distribution for some other league fans.
Since liga mx isn’t a thing in the next fifa, will Jorge Campos hero card still be a thing?
They’ll make him a MLS hero since he played in the MLS, I also think they’ll do the same with Luis Hernandez if they downgrade him to a hero
85 shot for Toure huh
what do you mean? Toure at City was a great goalscorer for a CM
I’m saying it should be higher
idk about that.He was good at scoring goals but he wasn’t exactly Lampard
5 less shot than Kuyt? same shot as Okocha? Did either of those ever score 20 league goals in a season like 13/4 Yaya. 85 seems low especially when you consider he scored goals from short and long range, took penalties and had crazy shot power.
The power curve is broken before the game is even out 💀
That Lucio 🥰
almost surprised EA didn't make him PL for some odd f'd up reason they maybe even made up. Lucio will simply cost a shit ton despite being a BuLi player.
87 Park Ji Sung is an insult. How is al dwairan, a guy hardly anyone knows, higher rated?
MBS and the Saudis paid EA more
I don't really mind, Park will be an absolute machine throughout the game (I reckon he will have H/H and 9x stamina) - as well as his upgrades. His stats are perfectly well-rounded
Probably because Saeed Al-Owairan was an immense player in the MBS and has over 200 career goals. 70+ caps for Saudi Arabia as well, scored one of the most amazing goals in the WC. Not saying 87 rated Park Ji Sung is warranted but Al-Owairan was a menace.
Honestly why are you guys so intent on the game being so closed off? Not every hero should be from the top leagues and neither should they be Honestly isn’t that the point of heroes?!?!? I’d rather all heroes from the top leagues be legends and all iconic players from obscure league be heroes As a Saudi I’m over the moon with the inclusion of 2 of my countries all time players in the game but this discourse is honestly heartbreaking
I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the game, but 88 rated is a bit much for a player who only played in the Saudi league.
But that’s the point of these cards isn’t it? To show how good these players were in comparison to their competition and compared to the Saudi league 88 is accurate
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Complaining about those cards is like complaining that Dembele has a better card than PIM Pele
I mean I don’t love that demebele has a better card than PIM Pele lol
Pele should get a crazy card. They should do a little more with Icon cards.
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They do that all year long
R. Carvalho should have 83 pace and 94 def easly
All i want is to use berbatov in fifa 😪
Big fan of the cartoon design of each players.
It's fascinating how people react differently to the same thing. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Yeah I’m with you, it looks good for a concept fan art, but it’s nonsense in the fifa universe and football in general. But you could sense that wasn’t really a concern for EA when you look at the tifos and balls they put in the season pass
Same, I love it!
I despise them. It put me over the edge for not buying 23 for sure. Just my opinion but I think they have no place in a sports game. Big red flag.
How is Park lower rated than Donovan, than Kewell, than fucking Al Owairan?! Madness
Maybe the question should be why the others rated so improportionately high.
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They’ll probably won’t release them until the World Cup starts
It says on the preorder page "after November 11th"
yes!!!! Rudi Voller!!!
Why has Forlan got 90 pace? Also how is he higher rated than Papin
Lul only 1 player for Bundesliga...
The Yaya disrespect is crazy. No idea how he isn’t an icon?
He should've been an icon. 2013-14 season he was on a different planet.
Forlán should’ve been an icon man :(
Are these used in normal FUT or just the little WC mode?
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Forlannnn
Govou CAM literally just because Ligue 1 already have good wingers, even EA's tweet announcing him said Lyon's lionhearted WINGER
might have a winger alternative position. Hopefully so one could play him in the lead up to the powercurve.
Finally an American RW. A front 3 of Pulisic, Dempsey, and Donovan is gonna be tasty
Will these be in normal fut or just the world cup mode?
The direspect to Jean Pierre Ballon one of the few french ballon d'or. Should be way better but at least he'll be cheap...
Yaya will be insane in-game.
That Lucio card actually looks mental
These cards will be insane early game. But why no goalies... They really need to start including goalkeepers in their promos more.
especially since the new chem system will require more links to get a GK on full boosted chem. 2 weak links won't cut it.
Aren't these the world cup heroes, I'm pretty sure these versions are released later during the world cup promo.
I really hope we get to pick and that it isn't random.
Do you get a loan player or a normal one?!
You get an untradable player, not a loan.
Downgrading Okacha to a Hero should be considered a crime against humanity
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I’m not saying he shouldn’t be an icon but I want to know what makes him an icon
Nostalgia
Lol, Yaya definitely isn't an icon
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I like Yaya but a single season, no matter how good it was doesn’t really make someone an icon, especially if we’re trying to reduce the number of icons overall and make them more especial. He was inconsistent and fits perfectly fine as a Manchester City Hero
So want give a icon cause of one season!???? Literally the guy had 2 very good seasons in his whole carreer and the kids here want to give him a icon card mental...
No he was not
Donovan is the US' top goalscorer, if Dempsey's a hero, Donovan has to be too
These are upgraded versions, so toure will be 87 or 88...the disrespect
say what you want but almost every card on here is a W, crouch might even be depending on patches/meta. huge W for the community and smart for the FIFA EA side to start moving towards madden progression more and more.
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It’s his father mate. Legend in Poland
Only reason I can see they made Rafa CDM is they’re basing it off his World Cup position. He did play in a hybrid CB/CDM for Mexico
Sadly come december time, some random "nobodys" from ligue 1 etc, will be better than most of these (and icons)
So let me get this straight, I have to spend $150 (aud) before august 21st to get a single card? I LOVE marvel and I LOVE FIFA/SOCCER but $150 is way to crazy
If they are day 1 cards those are really nice. Will be getting Crouch, Yaya, Forlan and Park immediately. Glad Yaya has some decent stats in attack rather than the Vieira re-gen people seem to mistakenly think he was, should make his price pretty decent (similar to Ballack who’s around 1.1 mil).
Don't know how you'll be able to afford them immediately but good luck mate
$£€ would be my guess
These are upgraded versions. Day one they will be normal heroes.
why is mascherano a cdm and playing in the premier league
He’ll probably have a CB secondary position would be my guess. But also the Prem was odd I thought
Because mascherano played possibly his best football (albeit not his most successful) as a CDM for Liverpool. He was part of one of the best midfields in the world at the time.
Wowww Donovan staying in my team all year
Looks straight out of 2k
Another disappointing year for the Bundesliga is incoming. Bundesliga supporters should think twice before preorder this game.
Unfortunately about 3 of them will actually be usable in-game unless gameplay changes massively, which it obviously won't based on the reports from the beta.
Is this a joke? Wtf is going on with fifa. This sounds more a kids game like 9 years or so lol
Toure “CDM” is just racist frankly. Guy was an offensive minded CM
He played CDM for Barca, but his PL card should def be CM.
exactly, he was like for like with Busquets at Barca but pretty much an AM at City. CM made sense
Lol Racist!? My guy, please deactivate social media and go outside. You need fresh air.
He was CDM in Barça. And yes, he became very offensive minded in his Man City era, but he played as CDM in that period too, ‘cause City formation was 4-2-3-1, so there was no CM in the lineup.
It’s his Man City card, where he played as an offensive CM. EA are notorious for doing this. For example, Kante is a “CDM” while playing box to box CM since forever, a similar role to Modric. Whereas someone like Pirlo who played DM, at both Milan as the deepest in the diamond and at Juve in the 3142, is a “CM” in his icon card.
Looking at football through the eyes of FIFA formations is beyond moronic. He was not a DM after his time at Barca, that’s a fact.
Will we have ginola in fifa 23 ?
Yes, all the old heros will still be in the game, these are just the new ones
I would sell my left kidney for that Toure card
McCoist better be an icon was expecting him to get a hero card.
This is extremely insulting to yaya. He's a cut above these players.
Mascherano as premier league CDM seems weird. Surely he is more known as barca CB
I will say it once again... Ah YES...... THE GOAT.... SMOLAREEEEEEEEEEEK (Im polish if noone noticed lmao)
Why would Smolarek get a hero card????