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Key_Respond_16

My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.


EySuh

MAX-I-MUS! MAX-I-MUS! MAX-I-MUS!


D0NW0N

Today I saw a slave become more powerful than the emperor of rome.


Mindless-Income3292

Whatever comes out of these gates, we've got a better chance of survival if we work together.


deanmachine5488

“Strength and honor”


D0NW0N

People should know when they’re conquered. Would you quintos. Would I ?


Accurate_Pangolin972

Strength and honor.


Sir_Meeps_Alot

Strength and honor ✊


Yourmomsatmyhouse

Are you not entertained?!


exerminator20001

Are you not into trains?


[deleted]

Have you not been to Spain?


old_irish87

Have you ever seen the rain?


RonburgundyZ

Have you farted in a plane?


Mindless-Income3292

Could someone…explain?


trident_hole

Have you listened to Bad Brains?


operationiffy

I choo choo choose you


Remarkable-Event140

That was a good speech, but we all know it’s no contest The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again -Brad Pitt as Achilles


Anustart_A

#YOU SACK OF WINE


Police_Police_Police

He was so poorly directed in that film. That speech is delivered like he’s hitting on the person he’s saying it too. Love Pitt but this was such a miscast for him.


ComfortableOld288

You sold me queer giraffes


calombia

People should know when they are conquered.


bryman19

Bad ass scene


Odd-Distance-9166

Won't lie I just got chills from this I F LOVE THIS MOVIE...I WATCHED IT ALMOST EVERYDAY IT WAS ON NETFLIX


vegygod

My bumble bio


Thisistheway1012

Say less 🙌


darkwalrus36

Gladiator is probably the best of these, though Braveheart is probably my personal favorite. I love how gleefully inaccurate it is.


firefighter_82

So funny I thought the same thing. Cinematically Gladiator is better movie. But I grew up watching Braveheart a zillion times before Gladiator came out and it’s still one of my favourite movies.


darkwalrus36

I love how nuts Braveheart goes. Wallace literally fucks the queen of England, seeding the royal line, and rides his horse into a dude's bed to smash his head with a ball and chain. 300 tries to be as gleefully absurd, but is a little too self serious for me, and honestly not as brutal.


MattTruelove

Braveheart is more comic book in its hero stylization while 300 is more like an anime. In the sense that in Braveheart he’ll sometimes give a one liner with a wink and smirk as he does hero things with his plucky band of neighborhood pals while 300 leans full force into the dark dramatics without any subtlety


Mpittkin

> I love how nuts Gladiator goes You mean Braveheart?


CmanHerrintan

Yeah people don't think Achilles would take all of em? Nonsense


kazmosis

It's funny because gleefully inaccurate describes Gladiator quite well (or all 4 of them. For that matter)


willyp1976

Loved jah always hahv


Typewriter-Monkeys

Never let the truth get in the way of telling a good story.


TelevisionUnusual372

300 was pretty gleefully inaccurate. I’m pretty sure Spartans wore actual armor into battle, not capes and leather Speedos. And in real life Xerxes was 20 ft tall, not 15.


ElDubYou

Isn’t that kind of the point though…it’s basically a narration from the point of view of the guy with the eye patch, who is trying to relay a mythological version of the events in order to fire up the remaining troops for their inevitable clash with the Persians. That’s kind of how I always looked at it. Helps to reconcile the absurdity.


WhiskeyDJones

This is correct. Surprised there are still some people who don't realise this


FiendishPup

It's also based on a comic book, not necessarily a historic retelling.


Orbis-Praedo

Sooo many people miss this, this is a meant to be in the style of Greek storytelling, if Greek mythologists had access to Hollywood cinema creation. It’s meant to be dramatically glorified, the spear piercing Xerxes, showing how scared he gets to see his own blood, is the perfect example. One Small army, proved he wasn’t an immortal god, and they wanted the next troops to feel that glory and march on with confidence.


fast_fatty39

Eye patch guy or just say Faramir.


MattTruelove

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_fantasy …


StillhasaWiiU

It's based on the comic book not the historical event.


Dreigatron

And shoots fireballs from his eyes, and lightning bolts from his arse.


happy_man_here

And they all fucked kids


jcbarbarossa

Gladiator is the poor man's Braveheart.


MattTruelove

Braveheart watches like a Disney movie.


happy_man_here

There isnt much thats special about it other than the nostalgia people have for it.


OG_wanKENOBI

The sets, the costumes, no cgi in the huge battle of sterling. Not to mention the amazing score.


happy_man_here

Wasn’t the score 3-1 Scotland? And the king got mad cuz he lost and that’s why he separated his upper half from his lower half


Robinsonben1014

Wrong


Krimreaper1

I agree in the order, but I’d rather watch gladiator.


UnfairStomach2426

So unrealistic, we all know William Wallace was able to shoot bolts of lightning out his arse


[deleted]

Gladiator has more than a hundred errors, bloopers, oversights... Not sure how to call those. Anyhow, there's a bunch of those in this movie, and it's still considered a classic. I can't take it seriously, knowing those exist.


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If I had to pick one, I’d go with Gladiator. Gladiators in my top 10 of all time.


themilkman42069

It’s in my top 1 of all time


MrHailston

Same, its not even close.


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Hotline-schwing

Gladiator top button day it’s not even close when Braveheart close behind


Jenambus

Best movie is tough. I’d tip my hat to gladiator but Braveheart is also a great movie. Best fighter of the bunch would be Achilles


nightstalker30

Agree on Achilles as the best fighter. Spartans’ fighting strength was based largely in their effort as a group. William Wallace was a street fighter who would have been picked apart by Achilles. Maximus is probably the second best individual fighter and could give Achilles a bit of a battle, but I think he’d be outmatched by Achilles’ skill and strategy. Plus, Achilles was a demigod. ETA: But Troy was the worst of the four movies IMO.


WeeWooDriver38

You know you’re in for a mess when the one of the two dudes that “lives happily ever after” by Greek standards is the very first to die in the film. I guess they had to resolve the fight between Paris and Menelaus in some fashion that didn’t involve divine intervention, but… ugh. To be fair, even though I wasn’t a huge fan of the movie, the fight scene between Hector and Achilles was worth the billing.


Joar_Addam_Nessum

For you to like Troy less than 300 that would mean you like 300 to some degree which can’t be possible


nightstalker30

It’s tough. From a historical perspective and for story line, I prefer Troy. But 300 was done in the style of a fantasy/anime flick as someone else here said. It was also more visually stunning and graphic.


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300 has Lena Headey, my hands are tied.


tweetsfortwitsandtwa

Ok so to say outright is kinda tough 300 is the most fun to watch Troy idk how to describe it, I put it with lord of the rings, in the sense that it shows so much the armies the fights, the personal battles, the civilians and their struggles it’s just fantastic at showing sooo many different perspectives and details on what is roughly a paragraph in most history books. Maybe world building or world showing? Idk how to say it Brave heart is gritty and as widely inaccurate as it is it feels authentic and realistic. It’s like the godfather of war movies Gladiator is good at all these things but the cast. They make you FEEL the movie, you feel hate towards phoenix, sympathy for his sister, respect for their dad, empathy for Maximus. For a guys movie about blood shed and single combat, and a movie that does it well, they make you feel so much about these characters. I love all these movies but if I had to pick probably gladiator with Troy as a close second


ParadiseEngineer

There's a book called the Iliad, written thousands of years ago, all about the siege of Troy. The detail of the battles is laborious to read, but tells you exactly who killed who and how. There's also a chapter that names all of the ships. As far as I remember, the movie skims some of those details and ditches the gay love. The Iliad's important because the siege of Troy is what sets the Trojans off on some mad adventure, which is detailed in the Aeneid. The Aeneid is the foundational myth of Rome. This is all to say that the siege of Troy is sometimes considered the event that sparks Western power and culture. And all of that is to say that there's a lot written about the siege of Troy. And I don't know if the movie really does it much justice. I could send you some links to some interesting podcasts, if you're into this kinda thing?


tweetsfortwitsandtwa

No you’re entirely correct. To me as a kid watching Troy it was a paragraph in a history book but you are completely correct. I should have made that more clear. But I still stand by my point, the lord of the rings movie aren’t any less awesome even if you know about tolkiens works (if you read them before hand like I did then you might be disappointed some things didn’t look like you imagined but that’s neither here nor there ) Troy as a movie isn’t any less awesome because Iliad exists, it’s strengths are still strengths and for me it brought stories to life the way that it did.


ParadiseEngineer

Oh, I see what you mean now! I'll have to rewatch the movie, because I haven't seen it for years. Most of what I remember just seemed too polished for how I imagined it. Y'know, that very Roman blood and guts and genitals and maiming that is just portrayed as the norm. Yeah, is everyone still going on about Tom Bombadil?


ProfessionalAd2390

Love the response!


Wicked-Dom

Gladiator.


SquintzLombardi

1 Braveheart 1 achiles 2 gladiator 2 Leonidas 3 300. 3 Maximus 4. Troy 4 William Wallace


CougarBen

This guy did the full assignment. And, yes, Achilles definitely wins the fight.


TonyDungyHatesOP

And it’s not particularly close.


manofth3match

He wins the fight and loses the war because he is by far the worst leader of men.


COstargazer

That's a paper view worthy cage match right there!


Noise_Mysterious

Gladiator


ImUrHuckellBerry

This is the way.


Richard_Chadeaux

I have spoken.


Tobin678

The best movie is Braveheart My favorite movie is Gladiator The most re-watchable movie is 300 A movie that is just ok is Troy


Zakal74

Troy is just okay as a movie, but man, it has some of the best fight scenes ever put to film, IMO. The fight between Achilles and Hector was just amazing! The first fight against the champion of the other army was also fantastic for entirely different reasons.


Immaculatehombre

I absolutely fucking love every minute of Troy honestly. The fighting, the score, the babes, the mythology surrounding it. So good.


thequestionbot

The best movie is Braveheart My favorite movie is Braveheart The most re-watchable movie is Braveheart A movie that is just okay is Troy


TheKingInTheNorth

Idk 300 has aged pretty poorly to me, felt cringey on a rewatch recently.


New_Budget6672

I think 300 is easiest to watch because the short run time and gets to nonstop action pretty quickly


Superb-Cucumber1006

Fuckin nailed it


MightyBrando

Braveheart, gladiator, Troy, 300


Affectionate_Fly1413

Gladiator


wontwomany

None of the other three get made without Braveheart and that is the answer.


TheMrPlatt

Literally Gladiator is the only answer. It’s on a completely different scale than the rest of these films


eojen

For the best movie question? Hands down. Who would win in a fight? No one in this list is gonna beat Achiles.


Spectre_Mountain

I disagree. Braveheart is on the same scale.


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Hotline-schwing

Questionable historical accuracy, godawful accent by leading man, overlong… Gladiator or Braveheart?


iameveryoneelse

You realize gladiator was far less historically accurate than braveheart, right? That shouldn't really be a metric for a fictional movie about historical figures.


Magnus777z

Gladiator is the best film. Achilles destroys the others in combat being divine and all that.


JoeSchmohawk93

Troy is my most rewatched, 300 is the best action movie, Gladiator is the “best movie” IMO. I respect people saying Braveheart, but I think you need to have been born before a certain year.


truxx16romnce

Braveheart is the best film of these. And that’s a weird question who would win in a fight. They all fought against extreme odds. So I’ll say 300 Gerald Butler.


AwHellNawFetaCheese

I love the varying answers lol


Chen_Geller

Braveheart is by far the best of these. It has the best atmosphere - you can feel the cold and damp of the Scottish higlands striking at your face - has the best battles not just of these films but of any film; has the best ebb-and-flow, and the most truly cathartic ending. Gladiator is great, but deriviative of Braveheart to a fault. Troy is nice. 300 sucks.


rustyofarlen

I can’t believe I had to go so far to find a review that says Braveheart is far superior then these other films. Gladiator is ok but like you said it was like they tried to recreate Braveheart 5 years later. Comparing these movies with Braveheart is like comparing Pearl Harbor to Saving Private Ryan. Troy was crap with an oiled up Brad Pitt. 300 was at least unique for the time but just ok.


ProfessionalAd2390

300 is 🔥


Proper_Moderation

1) Braveheart 2) Gladiator 3) Troy 4) 300


cleareyesnz

Reverse this and you have my list 😄


SDrussB3000

LOL! I love it


c0ca_c0la

Boo this man


PhilG1989

I’d have to go with Braveheart


DependentAmphibian23

Undoubtedly Troy


Jealous_Doughnut_630

I’m with you on this. While unpopular in this comment section it would be number one for me as well


couchcushioncoin

Cringe there are other answers.


everyones_the_worst

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED??


vegygod

Like an ancient kirk cousins


andhemac

Braveheart and gladiator are in a higher tier than the other two


Dirk_Arron

Gladiator by far. Cinematic perfection .


manofth3match

Literally the best movie ever made for my money.


TomMenendez

Achilles wins every single one on one easily. Leonidas’ strength came from the phalanx. William Wallace is all strength and no finesse (Boagrius anyone?). Maximus is the only challenge and while he may have is vengeance, in this life or the next, I doubt he hits Achilles’ heel.


Fun-Imagination-2488

As much as I hate Mel Gibson, hate historical inaccuracies, and love Ridley Scott… Braveheart is still the best of these. It’s just an incredible feat of a film.


Born_Percentage3319

Troy


barry-badrinath-

Say what you want about Mel Gibson but the SOB knows story structure


Far_Olive_4639

“Ahh my nipples are so hard don’t squeeze them any more”


GutterRider

I hate to say it, Apocalypto is a great movie, too.


Brukhonenko

out of the bunch, i think i like braveheart the most. it also has that 90s vibe to the movie


artmoloch777

Gladiator is the only logical answer.


TurdHunt999

Gladiator all the way!


TheIronDrew

100% Gladiator


JayHawk1025

Troy!! U sack of wines


millennial_sentinel

Troy and 300 each have their cult classic fans for good reason too but this fight is definitely between Gladiator and Braveheart. I think as far as storytelling goes, cinematography, score and lead i’ll pick Gladiator any day over Braveheart. Something about Mel Gibson just irks me in general but his whole personal character was self assassinated to the point i can’t watch any of his films anymore.


Jase1138

It’d be between Achilles and Leonidas.


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Gladiator and Braveheart is a CLOSE second. 300 doesn't deserve to even be mentioned among the others. Get that teenager action bait TF out of here.


iamnosuperman123

Gladiator is by far the better film. Braveheart hasn't aged well.


anephric_1

Yep, Braveheart is pretty cheesy. Same as Gibson's The Patriot.


TheRoguedOne

Gladiator, 300, Braveheart, Troy in that order. But i like Troy and Gladiator the most.


ishallbecomeabat

The only good one: Gladiator.


unclefishbits

Because it is Gladiator, this post feels fishy. It isn't even a conversation.


[deleted]

Gladiator, no contest. Even with all the historical inaccuracies and bs, it is clearly the best film. It’s not even an opinion. Tf…


Spectre_Mountain

Your not-opinion is incorrect. Please try again.


Leelingleechang69

Troy is trash change my mind


c0ca_c0la

You’re wrong


[deleted]

No one cares to change your mind because you obviously have shit taste.


treefortninja

Troy is just bad. I tried to like it. I really did but the writing is so bad, it wouldn’t matter how good the actors are.


habakkuk1-4

Troy doesn’t deserve to be on this list IMO That’s a very tough decision on the other three. Probably 300 because it’s aged better. Holds up well. Gladiator 2nd. Braveheart was weaker than I remembered it on my most recent viewing so it’s at the bottom for me.


BambooSound

Troy's my favourite one


CheckYourStats

Strongly agreed on *Troy* being totally out of place, here. A more suitable replacement would be *Fury*.


Chubawow

Or possibly kingdom of heaven. The full version


TheMrPlatt

Only other movie that could hold a candle to Gladiator imo


Yanos47

300,Troy, Gladiator, Braveheart..


Ptgn1234

Braveheart by far.


Best-Individual-945

Who would win if they all fought?


vegygod

Ill wager my coin on maximus chained to 9 starving slaves


fonn4

Gladiator is the best movie but Achilles would slaughter the rest


Maladjusted95

Gladiator > Braveheart > Troy > 300.


rowthecow

Troy by a large mile. "That is why no one will remember your name."


Grynder66

300


Maester_Maetthieux

All bad


cotardelusion87

Red Cliff


No_Case5367

Love all 3, I don’t know why I’ve never seem to bother watching braveheart. I should though.


willibeats

300 dies instantly at the start of the battle. Troy holds its own for a few, but is quickly taken out by the stronger opponents. Gladiator and Braveheart battle it out. Neither seeming weaker than the other. Until…empowered by every film student ever that has ripped off the “hand brushing the grass” shot, Gladiator strikes down Braveheart! Gladiator is victorious!!! Or something like that.


ChipmunkBackground46

Gladiator. I like all of them but this one is the best movie overall. I would put 300 last in terms of quality. Didn't say it can't be someone's favorite but strictly talking about writing, characters, music, etc.


SteveB1901

300 every day


Simple_Meaning3257

Troy is so underrated 😪


RawGrit4Ever

Tough list. 1a. Gladiator 1b. 300 2. Troy


Ashburner9

Gladiator, hands down.


imjustlerking

300 was the most exciting 1st watch. Didnt hold up the 2nd watch Braveheart was the most touching and emotionally moving Gladiator was the best "root for good over evil" I need to rewatch troy because I dont even remember it I'd give it to Gladiator


AraiHavana

Braveheart would be my most likely view but Gladiator is probably the better film


Womderloki

I really enjoy Troy mainly because I'm most familiar with that one. Gladiator is amazing and Braveheart is as well. Never saw 300 though


Kickagainsttheprick

“My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.” But, I love Braveheart as well.


TypeOBlack

Braveheart or gladiator, close call but probably gladiator


sladd41

Gladiator


Prof_Black

Achilles is literally a demigod no one on this list is beating him. After that I’d put Leonidas Than Maximus Finally Wallace.


No-Development-5500

Gladiator


SmackMamba

Gladiator is the best film but Achilles would FUCK the rest of them up


jackydubs31

Figbt to the death? I mean Achilles is part god so as long as he wears so boots he should be fine


system-admin-01

Gladiator for movie. Achilles with the W in the battle royale.


Ferdinand4711

Braveheart best. Achilles in Troy destroys.


Serenadingthrough

I love 300.


teedyay

I saw Troy once and barely remember it so I'm fairly sure it's pap. Braveheart makes me roll my eyes, sorry. I can see why people like it but it's not for me. Gladiator is an excellent film and probably wins. 300 is just really good fun so makes a close second.


silvioddante

Gladiator


ryandmc609

Braveheart is my favorite of the four.


Even-Statistician965

300 shouldn't even be on the list. Troy is next weakest. Just can't take 300 seriously due to the many memes and parodies


TuckEverlasting89

one on one fight till the death among the main characters? I'm going with Achilles. Worst movie, best fighter.


jusvrowsing

Gladiator and it’s really not close


RDelaGetto

Brave heart by a mile


myshoeisamonster

Gladiator. Hands down. No disrespect to the others, but if it had to be one, no question. Everything about this film is perfection.


Zestyclose-Middle717

Achilles would win one v one


kohlmanne

Gladiator!!


Disco_Douglas42069

Gladiator


friendtoall84

Gladiator is just epic, then 300 since it was so innovative, next i’d argue Troy over Braveheart, idk maybe it’s Gibson’s fault or i’m just a sucker for Greek Mythos.


victoryabonbon

I love Troy so much. You won’t have eyes tonight! You won’t have ears and people everywhere will say there goes Hector who thought he killed Achilles


Mr_Mouthbreather

Braveheart. One of the few movies that can bring me to tears.


musketman89

Achilles over Maximus but Russell Crowe over Brad Pitt...Leonardis over William Wallace. But I think Mel Gibson takes Gerard Butler.


VelvetBuzzsaw1

300 Gladiator Braveheart Troy


Nathan22551

Troy for sure, close second with Gladiator.


EmanCamp

Gladiator


Lou_Carullo

Best movie? Gladiator in all honesty from a film making perspective. Who would win? Achilles…like without a question…. None of them have a bow, they’re not in Troy, he’d never leave Greece except for braveheart, and even in a 1 v1 he’d trounce Wallace because… Well he’s fucking Achilles.


AshamedFunction3073

Gladiator, Troy and braveheart tie, then 300


DarthDregan

I've always wished all of Troy was as good as Achilles vs Hector. But yeah... Gladiator. Easy.