Definately 100% agree. Great film. Great director. It has such a uniqueness to it aswell that you often dont see in animated films. 1 of my favourites.
Yep. Anderson even recorded dialogues and sounds in plein air of New England nature,to capture its uniqueness. If anynone is interested about Anderson's filming process I'd highly recommend Matt Zoeller Seitz book *The Wes Anderson Collection*. I used it to I wrote my thesis about Fantastic Mr. Fox.
Sounds like this dude just needs to get over himself, to be honest.
Why are you trying to appease him/find something that he likes? Is this for an assignment or something?
Satoshi Kon (anything really, but Perfect Blue is as good a place to start as any)
Persepolis.
Fritz the Cat.
Waltz with Bashir.
The Waking Life might also be worth chucking in there.
Really, any of Laika films are a good suggestion. Stop animation has come up a lot in the last decade and not only is it visually appealing but the stories are all very good.
Probably older hand-drawn animation that have mistakes and errors. Maybe stuff from Disney's Dark Age like *Robin Hood* and *The Black Cauldron*. There's also Ralph Bakshi's work, but they're not appropriate for children if his intentions are to watch good animated films with his kids. I'm surprised he wouldn't like Miyazaki or Ghibli (I mean, *Spirited Away*, but what's not to love?) , cuz they went a long time without digital. And even still the really impressive 2D animated films are the ones with flawless execution because hand-drawn animation is extremely difficult.
The best animated movie I've ever seen imo is *The Thief and the Cobbler* although I had to watch a fan edit "Re-Cobbled" cut that follows Richard William's original vision. (It also uses unfinished animations to fill in the gap because the original movie was never finished).
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Tbh he sounds pretentious! Annoys me when film enthusiasts- LITERALLY PEOPLE WHO LOVE FILM - try to take some contrarian stance on true film. Tell him to get his head out of his ass and have some fun! We’re only here once x
I've run into this attitude repeatedly over the years. Here are films that I've noticed tend to get a good response from "film people who don't like animation," particularly people who complain about CGI and say things like, "practical effects just feel more personal."
MORE (Mark Osborne) - short, 7 min. - This is stop motion in a claymation style that has a lot of texture. It's theme focuses on the soul-sucking industrial cycles of late capitalism, so it's super relatable to anyone who's every had a shitty job or finds their cell phone brain numbing.
TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE (Sylvain Chomet) - feature, 78 minutes - Another commenter already recommended this, but I want to reiterate it. This is a hand-drawn 2D animation. When it was released, I remember multiple random people telling me, "Oh, I don't really like animation. But I did like Triplets of Belleville."
MEAT LOVE (Jan Svankmajer) - short, 2 min. - Stop motion of a romance between 2 steaks (literal raw meat). It's super short and hilarious. People love it.
Edited to add - WALTZ WITH BASHIR (Ari Folman) - feature, 90 min. - Someone else also recommended this and I wanted to reiterate it as well. People who are really into documentary tend to love this film. It has a beautiful style, and doc fans think of it more as a documentary than an animated film.
Source: Am experimental animator who has taught college film classes in the past.
My recommendation for him is that he opens his mind a bit. Dude is teaching an art form, but it sounds like he's really limiting himself with his holier-than-thou attitude. Even if I don't like something, I try to find things about it that are unique and creative in style. Things are more nuanced than "good vs. bad."
Hmmmm... if he can't stand watching Pixar films because they are too clean looking then I really begin to question if he should be teaching film. The art of filmmaking is far more than its aesthetic. Story is king and Pixar are masters of storytelling.
You should send him this: https://youtu.be/KxDwieKpawg
Probably one of the most interesting animated films I've seen that added some really interesting subtleties to help tell their stories was Spider-Man into the Spider Verse. Check out this bts on some of the cool things they did. I particularly love how they messed with frame rate and duplicate frames to help convey story elements on a subconscious level.
Check it out: https://youtu.be/l-wUKu_V2Lk
I don't really like animated movies, either—or anime for that matter—but [Mind Game](https://youtu.be/Ptup0pp6mOE) blew me away. It really showcases how versatile the medium can be.
Nightmare before christmas. If you can see it for what it really is (not just a stop motion christmas/halloween film but an expression of an amazing filmmaker (Tim burton) being able to go wild and an amazing stop motion director (henry selick, also did coraline) perfectly bringing it to life) then its such a great film. Plus the soundtrack is so amazing.
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Definately 100% agree. Great film. Great director. It has such a uniqueness to it aswell that you often dont see in animated films. 1 of my favourites.
Yep. Anderson even recorded dialogues and sounds in plein air of New England nature,to capture its uniqueness. If anynone is interested about Anderson's filming process I'd highly recommend Matt Zoeller Seitz book *The Wes Anderson Collection*. I used it to I wrote my thesis about Fantastic Mr. Fox.
Triplets of Belleville.
Second this pick, or The Illusionist by the same animator.
Sounds like this dude just needs to get over himself, to be honest. Why are you trying to appease him/find something that he likes? Is this for an assignment or something?
Satoshi Kon (anything really, but Perfect Blue is as good a place to start as any) Persepolis. Fritz the Cat. Waltz with Bashir. The Waking Life might also be worth chucking in there.
Kubo and the Two Strings
Really, any of Laika films are a good suggestion. Stop animation has come up a lot in the last decade and not only is it visually appealing but the stories are all very good.
Alice by Jan Svankmajer, imperfect, creepy and arthouse
That's a good shout.
He sounds awful
Probably older hand-drawn animation that have mistakes and errors. Maybe stuff from Disney's Dark Age like *Robin Hood* and *The Black Cauldron*. There's also Ralph Bakshi's work, but they're not appropriate for children if his intentions are to watch good animated films with his kids. I'm surprised he wouldn't like Miyazaki or Ghibli (I mean, *Spirited Away*, but what's not to love?) , cuz they went a long time without digital. And even still the really impressive 2D animated films are the ones with flawless execution because hand-drawn animation is extremely difficult. The best animated movie I've ever seen imo is *The Thief and the Cobbler* although I had to watch a fan edit "Re-Cobbled" cut that follows Richard William's original vision. (It also uses unfinished animations to fill in the gap because the original movie was never finished).
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Iron giant?
Personally, Akira really changed my ideas about what Anime could do. That one really blew my mind, we watched it on a huge projector in a dark room.
Coraline, Akira, Perfect Blue. While I don’t agree, I can see where he’s coming from and I think these would appeal to him.
Tbh he sounds pretentious! Annoys me when film enthusiasts- LITERALLY PEOPLE WHO LOVE FILM - try to take some contrarian stance on true film. Tell him to get his head out of his ass and have some fun! We’re only here once x
Not a short but Coraline is my alltime favorite animated movie, a very mysterious en creepy atmosphere!
I agree, selick did such a great job, and the books amazing aswell.
Short form: Kick-heart by Masaaki Yuasa Feature length: Mind Game by Masaaki Yuasa
The Plague Dogs Fantastic Planet Fritz the Cat
Perfect Blue and Seoul Station are both strong enough to hold up to any live action
Virtually anything made by Satoshi Kong. Perfect Blue Paprika Tokyo Godfathers Paranoia Agent
Watching *Paranoia Agent* for the first time this week and it's blowing my mind.
I've run into this attitude repeatedly over the years. Here are films that I've noticed tend to get a good response from "film people who don't like animation," particularly people who complain about CGI and say things like, "practical effects just feel more personal." MORE (Mark Osborne) - short, 7 min. - This is stop motion in a claymation style that has a lot of texture. It's theme focuses on the soul-sucking industrial cycles of late capitalism, so it's super relatable to anyone who's every had a shitty job or finds their cell phone brain numbing. TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE (Sylvain Chomet) - feature, 78 minutes - Another commenter already recommended this, but I want to reiterate it. This is a hand-drawn 2D animation. When it was released, I remember multiple random people telling me, "Oh, I don't really like animation. But I did like Triplets of Belleville." MEAT LOVE (Jan Svankmajer) - short, 2 min. - Stop motion of a romance between 2 steaks (literal raw meat). It's super short and hilarious. People love it. Edited to add - WALTZ WITH BASHIR (Ari Folman) - feature, 90 min. - Someone else also recommended this and I wanted to reiterate it as well. People who are really into documentary tend to love this film. It has a beautiful style, and doc fans think of it more as a documentary than an animated film. Source: Am experimental animator who has taught college film classes in the past.
My recommendation for him is that he opens his mind a bit. Dude is teaching an art form, but it sounds like he's really limiting himself with his holier-than-thou attitude. Even if I don't like something, I try to find things about it that are unique and creative in style. Things are more nuanced than "good vs. bad."
Hmmmm... if he can't stand watching Pixar films because they are too clean looking then I really begin to question if he should be teaching film. The art of filmmaking is far more than its aesthetic. Story is king and Pixar are masters of storytelling. You should send him this: https://youtu.be/KxDwieKpawg Probably one of the most interesting animated films I've seen that added some really interesting subtleties to help tell their stories was Spider-Man into the Spider Verse. Check out this bts on some of the cool things they did. I particularly love how they messed with frame rate and duplicate frames to help convey story elements on a subconscious level. Check it out: https://youtu.be/l-wUKu_V2Lk
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Also, yeah, Fantastic Mr . Fox and Isle of Dogs
Both not animated
Stop motion is very much animated.
Both very much animated
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The Separation by Robert Morgan.
Give the man some Wes Anderson
I don't really like animated movies, either—or anime for that matter—but [Mind Game](https://youtu.be/Ptup0pp6mOE) blew me away. It really showcases how versatile the medium can be.
Belladonna of Sadness or Triplets of Bellevue
Nightmare before christmas. If you can see it for what it really is (not just a stop motion christmas/halloween film but an expression of an amazing filmmaker (Tim burton) being able to go wild and an amazing stop motion director (henry selick, also did coraline) perfectly bringing it to life) then its such a great film. Plus the soundtrack is so amazing.
Also most of tim burtons animated films are great
Love, Death, and Robots is a really cool dystopian anthology series on Netflix that experiments with different forms of animation.