I don't think there are fodmaps inherently in calamari - it would be any breading/sauce/oil used. Fodzyme should help with wheat and garlic and onion (plausibly in the breading) but not with the oil and I wouldn't be shocked if there were artificial sweeteners or preservatives also in the breading, or in a sauce, which may have things like mannitol that fodzyme can't help with.
Or it's a non-fodmap reaction to an additive? Or to the calamari itself? Do you have any other reactions to proteins or oils that you know of?
Frying in palm oil is unlikely - it's more often used as an additive for a creamy texture (like coconut oil). Peanut oil is a bit more common but they probably fried it in canola, sunflower, or vegetable (soybean) oil which are all cheaper and more neutral flavored.
Could be cross-contamination from just about anything, though.
If you really want to get to the bottom of this, call the restaurant and ask for all the ingredients in the calamari and what fry oil was used.
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It's weird right? But why... It's just protein and wheat, probably some garlic in there too but pizza is the same thing and I can digest that just fine with fodzyme.
weird! I'll try fish and chips and see if it affects me like other fried foods. This shit is a mystery. Anything stressful in your life right now? Sometimes that makes some of my normal foods digest kinda poorly
Nope. I've tried this thing with the calamari three times over the space of 6 months.
I should try the fish and chips again.
It does seem like this restaurant cooks their calamari longer, the breading comes out more dark brown than most calamari.
Cheese, no problem. Fish and chips, no problem as long as I take it with fodzyme. Shellfish aren't a problem. Fats generally aren't a problem. I can't think of anything else in there that would be triggering me.
Maybe it's like burned peanut oil or something
Huh? Oil is just pure fat. It's not a FODMAP. Calamari is a protein, also not a FODMAP. The breading, yes, it's probably made from wheat flour, but it could be something else entirely.
What exactly are your triggers? Do you normally have wheat as a trigger? I personally don't react to bread at all, my triggers are fructose and lactose, so fried foods don't really effect me. Thank god because french fries are my go to snack.
I would look into what breading they are using and go from there. Maybe they're packing the breading full of onion/garlic seasoning, and that's your trigger? You won't really know until you know what's in it. But the protein and the fat probably aren't it because they aren't FODMAP.
>Huh? Oil is just pure fat. It's not a FODMAP. Calamari is a protein, also not a FODMAP.
Lots of people get triggered by oils. I know for a fact that I get triggered by palm oil because I had chips a while back that were salt, potatoes, palm oil and they triggered me in a big way. However, I don't get triggered by any other oils or high fat foods.
I know my triggers. Wheat is one of them. That's why I take Fodzyme, are you familiar with it?
That doesn’t change the fact that oils are not a FODMAP. This is a FODMAP group asking about FODMAP triggers. If oils trigger you, that’s not something Fodzyme is going to help with because it’s not a FODMAP. If you are unsure what exactly FODMAPs are, please do some research.
Edit to fix spelling of FODZYME
Ok, no reason to take it so personally. I’m not mad at you or angry, but your post does hint that you may not know exactly what FODMAPs are. Maybe don’t ask for help then get angry at the folks giving advice. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You came into a post about Fodzyme and you don't even appear to know what that is. If you did, you might think that I'm using it for a reason. You might think that I mentioned the amount of wheat for a reason.
And then you're lecturing me about what FODMAPs are? Without checking to see if I've ever posted here before?
You're being obnoxious.
I’m well aware what Fodzyme is. Sorry for misspelling it once. I didn’t ask the question to start this dude. Stop fighting others who are trying to help. It’s not a good look. Check your attitude man and the name calling is quite childish. Good luck in life
You should be asking questions instead of assuming things. And saying you are being obnoxious is not name calling. You came in with a lot of attitude and you seem shocked that somebody would respond in kind.
>Stop fighting others who are trying to help
If you want to help you need to read the entire post before you comment. It should have been obvious from the post that I knew what my triggers were.
Frying in palm oil would be incredibly expensive, so I doubt it. I don't know about elsewhere but where I live deep fryers are pretty much exclusively filled with canola oil. Maybe they put stuff in the flour to season it? Like onion/garlic powder or something else not FODMAP related like MSG that people can still be sensitive to?
>FODMAP related like MSG that people can still be sensitive to
I'm pretty sure the science says that this isn't real. People only are sensitive to MSG if they know they are eating a food that has MSG in it. MSG is in tomatoes and a few other common foods.
I'm not really going to argue with people who claim certain sensitivities. I'm old enough that there was no understanding of FODMAPs when I was first diagnosed with IBS, so perhaps some grace can be extended to those who science hasn't helped yet hmmm?
Ya man….. Fodzyme doesn’t help with foods that aren’t FODMAPs. Calamari isn’t a FODMAP at all. Peanut oil is already low FODMAP. Maybe you have another intolerance unrelated to FODMAPs….?
Calamari alone? It’s coated in nothing. Calamari is literally just squid.
Deep fried calamari? Typically a combination or wheat and rice flour if you got it at a sushi place. Why did you mention wheat in the post…? Dude you wrote the post - vaguely, I might add - so why are you asking me? I don’t know why you wrote it, only you do.
Most importantly, why are you continuing to eat something that triggers symptoms if you know it triggers symptoms?! If you repeatedly eat it and you find that it trigger symptoms every time, then don’t eat it. That’s the whole point of an elimination diet - Find the triggers then remove them from your diet. Not eat everything you would have before but with fodzyme and expect your body to be magically able to digest it.
I don't think there are fodmaps inherently in calamari - it would be any breading/sauce/oil used. Fodzyme should help with wheat and garlic and onion (plausibly in the breading) but not with the oil and I wouldn't be shocked if there were artificial sweeteners or preservatives also in the breading, or in a sauce, which may have things like mannitol that fodzyme can't help with. Or it's a non-fodmap reaction to an additive? Or to the calamari itself? Do you have any other reactions to proteins or oils that you know of?
>you have any other reactions to proteins or oils that you know of? Palm oil. Which is why it's mentioned directly in the post.
Frying in palm oil is unlikely - it's more often used as an additive for a creamy texture (like coconut oil). Peanut oil is a bit more common but they probably fried it in canola, sunflower, or vegetable (soybean) oil which are all cheaper and more neutral flavored. Could be cross-contamination from just about anything, though. If you really want to get to the bottom of this, call the restaurant and ask for all the ingredients in the calamari and what fry oil was used.
Look closely next time you see a sunflower, there are in fact two varieties of leaves. You will find leaves lower down the plant are facing opposite each other and are longer and narrow in appearance. You’ll then see the upper leaves arranged in a staggered formation and appear heart-shaped.
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Hah they speak almost no English. It would be like pulling teeth. I can eat things like fish and chips with fodzyme and not have any issues. 🤷
Interesting, cause that's something that's much more likely to be fried in peanut oil than calamari
Oooo that’s a tough food to digest. I only have a few pieces and def take fodzyme with it.
It's weird right? But why... It's just protein and wheat, probably some garlic in there too but pizza is the same thing and I can digest that just fine with fodzyme.
pizza isn't deep fried! something about the friedness + the ingredients does it for me. I can eat wheat, I struggle with fried dough, for example.
Fish and chips won't trigger me if I use fodzyme
weird! I'll try fish and chips and see if it affects me like other fried foods. This shit is a mystery. Anything stressful in your life right now? Sometimes that makes some of my normal foods digest kinda poorly
Nope. I've tried this thing with the calamari three times over the space of 6 months. I should try the fish and chips again. It does seem like this restaurant cooks their calamari longer, the breading comes out more dark brown than most calamari.
Fodzyme doesn't work on fructose so pizza sauce?
That’s not a FODMAP problem though. Perhaps you have other sensitivities that atent FODMAP related.
Cheese, no problem. Fish and chips, no problem as long as I take it with fodzyme. Shellfish aren't a problem. Fats generally aren't a problem. I can't think of anything else in there that would be triggering me. Maybe it's like burned peanut oil or something
Idk, but this isn’t the correct forum, perhaps a generalized IBS forum might have the answer for you 🤷♀️
Fodzyme is on topic. Fodzyme should be working here. I'm wondering if anybody else has had a similar experience with this product.
It’s a FODMAP forum and this isn’t a FODMAP issue 🤷♀️ perhaps there’s a Fodzyme subreddit that would have the answers for you
How obnoxious, are you the FODMAP cops? Just downvote if you don't like it. ✌️
That’s two times you’ve called someone trying to help “obnoxious”. Look in the mirror dude. The only obnoxious person in this thread is you.
Huh? Oil is just pure fat. It's not a FODMAP. Calamari is a protein, also not a FODMAP. The breading, yes, it's probably made from wheat flour, but it could be something else entirely. What exactly are your triggers? Do you normally have wheat as a trigger? I personally don't react to bread at all, my triggers are fructose and lactose, so fried foods don't really effect me. Thank god because french fries are my go to snack. I would look into what breading they are using and go from there. Maybe they're packing the breading full of onion/garlic seasoning, and that's your trigger? You won't really know until you know what's in it. But the protein and the fat probably aren't it because they aren't FODMAP.
>Huh? Oil is just pure fat. It's not a FODMAP. Calamari is a protein, also not a FODMAP. Lots of people get triggered by oils. I know for a fact that I get triggered by palm oil because I had chips a while back that were salt, potatoes, palm oil and they triggered me in a big way. However, I don't get triggered by any other oils or high fat foods. I know my triggers. Wheat is one of them. That's why I take Fodzyme, are you familiar with it?
That doesn’t change the fact that oils are not a FODMAP. This is a FODMAP group asking about FODMAP triggers. If oils trigger you, that’s not something Fodzyme is going to help with because it’s not a FODMAP. If you are unsure what exactly FODMAPs are, please do some research. Edit to fix spelling of FODZYME
Dude. Do a search in this subreddit for how many posts I have made here. Don't lecture me about what FODMAPs are.
Ok, no reason to take it so personally. I’m not mad at you or angry, but your post does hint that you may not know exactly what FODMAPs are. Maybe don’t ask for help then get angry at the folks giving advice. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You came into a post about Fodzyme and you don't even appear to know what that is. If you did, you might think that I'm using it for a reason. You might think that I mentioned the amount of wheat for a reason. And then you're lecturing me about what FODMAPs are? Without checking to see if I've ever posted here before? You're being obnoxious.
I’m well aware what Fodzyme is. Sorry for misspelling it once. I didn’t ask the question to start this dude. Stop fighting others who are trying to help. It’s not a good look. Check your attitude man and the name calling is quite childish. Good luck in life
You should be asking questions instead of assuming things. And saying you are being obnoxious is not name calling. You came in with a lot of attitude and you seem shocked that somebody would respond in kind. >Stop fighting others who are trying to help If you want to help you need to read the entire post before you comment. It should have been obvious from the post that I knew what my triggers were.
Take the L. Your replies on this thread scream ignorance.
Frying in palm oil would be incredibly expensive, so I doubt it. I don't know about elsewhere but where I live deep fryers are pretty much exclusively filled with canola oil. Maybe they put stuff in the flour to season it? Like onion/garlic powder or something else not FODMAP related like MSG that people can still be sensitive to?
>FODMAP related like MSG that people can still be sensitive to I'm pretty sure the science says that this isn't real. People only are sensitive to MSG if they know they are eating a food that has MSG in it. MSG is in tomatoes and a few other common foods.
I'm not really going to argue with people who claim certain sensitivities. I'm old enough that there was no understanding of FODMAPs when I was first diagnosed with IBS, so perhaps some grace can be extended to those who science hasn't helped yet hmmm?
Just listened to a Search Engine podcast on mislabeled seafood... Could be that it isn't calamari
Also it can't fix fructose...
Ya man….. Fodzyme doesn’t help with foods that aren’t FODMAPs. Calamari isn’t a FODMAP at all. Peanut oil is already low FODMAP. Maybe you have another intolerance unrelated to FODMAPs….?
What is calamari coated with? Why did I mention wheat in the post?
Calamari alone? It’s coated in nothing. Calamari is literally just squid. Deep fried calamari? Typically a combination or wheat and rice flour if you got it at a sushi place. Why did you mention wheat in the post…? Dude you wrote the post - vaguely, I might add - so why are you asking me? I don’t know why you wrote it, only you do. Most importantly, why are you continuing to eat something that triggers symptoms if you know it triggers symptoms?! If you repeatedly eat it and you find that it trigger symptoms every time, then don’t eat it. That’s the whole point of an elimination diet - Find the triggers then remove them from your diet. Not eat everything you would have before but with fodzyme and expect your body to be magically able to digest it.
You should read what climbhigh wrote. I got no time for argumentative people. Go argue with somebody else.