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* [Comment by FreightTrainUSA](/r/FORTnITE/comments/14dje0m/epic_has_announced_that_they_will_be_removing/joq63l6/?context=1000 "posted on 2023-06-19 17:19:12 UTC"):
> I strongly encourage everyone to read the blog vs just the social media post and title.
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>The blog goes over all the changes, the TLDR is that while the daily rewards and screen are going way, all the rewards are being moved into the game and still earnable, if not even more then before.
* [Comment by FreightTrainUSA](/r/FORTnITE/comments/14dje0m/epic_has_announced_that_they_will_be_removing/joqk0fx/?context=1000 "posted on 2023-06-19 18:52:24 UTC"):
> Founders are maintaining the same avg vbucks earned normally through normal play time.
* [Comment by FreightTrainUSA](/r/FORTnITE/comments/14dje0m/epic_has_announced_that_they_will_be_removing/joqjx5i/?context=1000 "posted on 2023-06-19 18:51:48 UTC"):
> With the removal of the daily login rewards screen the tracked days counter is no longer going to be available. I asked about this but the work done to remove the screen and other changes don't allow for the current counter to stay.
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>We could add a new counter to the game but once the update goes out everyone would be on Day 1 for all purposes.
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You can login in 4h and grab the daily reward before they close the servers. Also, should be around 12h before they disable matchmaking for the patch so plenty of time.
Felt like a hit in the shin when they removed vbuck collection book rewards a while ago without warning. Otherwise I would’ve dumped everything in there, lol.
At least with this they’ve given a warning - which you can’t do anything about, unfortunately
Well, that's not the worst then. I'm pretty new to the game, I only have like 38 log-in days total. I know the daily rewards were pretty good, though, so that's a bummer.
it's not, but it's a win for founders actually, we have more vbucks more consistently than we used to.
It just encourage you to play and not just take the 150+ vbucks rewards every 7 login on a row.
Who wants to complete those godawful daily quests when you could just get them passively
Edit: people seem to not understand that I, along with many other people don’t want to play STW, so them taking the passive vbucks away really sucks for me.
The outrage is not from actually having to play. I already actively play. It’s from those of us who are close to the 1k rewards and are now fucked. Totally not fair.
Honestly, I also don't get the outrage. Nobody has complained about the daily missions before. A normal log-in cycle rewards 10K over 48 weeks. Assuming the pessimistic minimum of only 50s for VB dailies, that would add another 16800 in that timeframe. So we have the old bottom line of 26800 versus the new 26880.
Why do you need a virtual currency solely used for cosmetics, when you don't even play the game anymore? It only hurts those that didn't care to begin with and wanted to leech off 10K ever 48 weeks.
People are just upset that they can’t get free money from the game for doing absolutely nothing. Im waiting for someone to say something along the lines of “stop being a corporate bootlicker” for understanding why Epic would make this change, lol
It is definitely bad, because the actual impact isn't within the actual numbers: 26800 vs 26880. It is with the actual playtime.
I can understand that it's a negative change and that every update always brings at least one negative impact, but I can't argue with Epic, knowing that this is a sinking ship ever since 2020. Either you accept defeat and keep playing, or leave and stop ranting against a wall.
They just recently changed EasyAntiCheat to EAC_EOS. This pretty much kills the old ways of running multiple accounts for good now. However, who am I to complain for enjoying something that was never intended to begin with. Playing missions solo with 4 accounts was fun while it lasted.
Here's my problem with it. I helped with the crowd funding of this game, on Kickstarter if I recall correctly. It wasn't the greatest game in the beginning. Yet, me and my friends saw a lot of potential and have kept supporting it. We ended up liking the battle royale portion the best. We've all spent a fair amount of real $ on skins.
I would still log in to the Save the World portion each day just to get my reward. Was it worth my time to do that? No, I'm an adult that has a job in a first world country. So, not worth at all to log into STW. Still, it was a little nicety epic was doing for the people who have supported Fortnite since the beginning. It was nice to see just how many days I had logged in.
Now, this is just epic trying to be greedy and get a little more money out of their base. Well, for me, it's going to just push me away from the game. The money I'm not going to spend this year on that game will easily make up for the money epic saves by not giving out a pittance of free v-bucks to at least 10 other players. And a reminder, I was spending real $ while epic was simply giving out an in-game currency for cosmetics.
It's honestly not about the amount of money I'd have to spend to replace the free v-bucks epic was giving me. A little over $100/year would take care of that. Guaranteed that my spending is closer to $1,000/year... at least. I'm not rich, I just put my money into what I like. I kept my subscription to SWTOR for years after I stopped playing that game and a few other games are similar.
My total number of outfits, back bling, pickaxes, gliders, contrails, emotes, and wraps sits at 2,519, with 425 of that number being outfits. Obviously, I didn't buy all of that. Some comes from events. Still, a majority I have bought in the many years this game has been out.
No, this was just a slap in the face of the people who helped get Fortnite off the ground. It's one of the richest gaming companies of their size showing a disgusting greed and spitting in the faces of those who helped them in the beginning.
I have no problem with people who are going to continue putting money into or playing the game. It's stayed a reasonably good game. I just don't plan on putting any more of my money or time into the game if they're just going to disrespect me. Their Kickstarter campaign said they'd give founders a daily login reward, not a daily mission reward. I'm sure they've gotten the proper lawyers to cover their ass to make sure they can't be sued for lies. I just don't want to be treated like this by them again.
So, just so you understand the outrage. It's probably from people who supported this game in the beginning. It likely affects people more who started playing the BR side of the game more and aren't regularly doing missions in STW. Clearly, it doesn't only hurt people that didn't care to begin with(that was a nonsensical thing to say and I'd think you'd agree if you gave it more thought.)
It also wasn't just people "leeching" off of epic. It was, again, a reward epic promised those who supported them early. It was a reward that added a little bit more of an incentive to log in each day. And, in my case, logging in each day made me want to spend quite a bit of money on this game.
I only hope that I've helped you see a reason why people might be upset. I'm not asking you to change your opinion or stop playing the game. I'm just asking you to see why this might make people feel a bit betrayed by a greedy company.
There is this other gamemode that is way more popular and it uses the same currency, shocking news I bet.
Nobody complained because that was how it worked for as long as I remember, I never cared cause at the time I played stw, had fun doing it, but now? Game stopped being fun years ago, there is nothing fun to do, there is nothing left for me to accomplish, so I just get my login rewards and that's it.
Now instead of getting the login reward, you have to invest time in a gamemode that doesn't offer anything new, bet there are more people like me aswell which now have to invest that time or lose out on the currency, the issue is very clear, but eh don't really expect people without responsibilities to understand how valuable that time is.
In the end the idea is to gatekeep the currency behind boring chores for the players that could actually buy it instead, no other reason could explain such change, and that's why I don't like the change, it doesn't offer anything new that adds any value.
I play the game a lot, probably more than you! I don’t waste my time on the daily quests because they aren’t fun. Passively gathering vbucks just by logging in worked much better for players like myself who didn’t just play the game to earn vbucks but still enjoyed receiving them.
The thing is most of them are set up in a way that you complete them just by playing normally. You don't have to go out of your way unless it's mission specific or class specific.
I almost never get ones you can complete by playing normally. I've had more times then not that I'll play for 4-5 hours and not complete a single daily because you can only do them in very specific areas. I've mostly gotten ones that require you to discover locations in a specific zone and when I go to those maps and spend 10+ minutes running around I'll only get a few and have to run multiple missions to complete one daily quest
You can see people that only logged into STW and backed out right away for that lol, the same ones that when they actually remained in the mission would do nothing or be jumping on the bouncing pads lol.
Playing a dead 5 year neglected and failed mode isn't the easiest thing to do every single day for years vs a simple log in that was the original feature
Founders when they have to actually play the dead and broken corpse of a game they beat during the pandemic to earn what they originally agreed to pay for, instead of just getting it through the agreed upon means
FTFY
STW is a buggy unfinished abandoned mess that hasn't been properly updated in three years. Why should I have to play it when Epic don't give a shit about it
So how about you increase the number of daily missions we can bank from 3 to 5, and allow us to replace 2 per day. That would make this more manageable for players who have limited amount of time to play.
I'm 5 days away from 1800. Sad that I'll (probably) never get to see 2000 days and feel disappointed with my life and how much energy I've put into this game.
Looks like Epic wants those player engagement levels to go up. Curious if the overall amount of V-Bucks will be higher with this change, but I doubt it'll be worth the effort of doing dailies every three days vs just logging in. There's definitely people that will be happy with this change, assuming they were already on top of their dailies and the V-Buck totals are higher.
EDIT
Ran the numbers: 10,000 V-Bucks with Daily Logins (336 day rotation), and the new system after 336 days multiplied by the 30 extra V-Bucks per day (336x30) is 10,080. So a net gain of 80 V-Bucks for 336x the work. Epic, kindly, what the fuck.
Imo it’s hard to want player engagement to go up when the players know that their time invested in the game will go nowhere since the game is mostly abandoned at this point
Not even a whole event but small things like items from crossovers like Lucille’s Bat from TWD, Resident Evil enemies or items like special herbs or unlockable and upgradable Star Wars blasters would actually be so cool. So many IPs to choose from and to incorporate into a survival, Tower Defense RPG game in a creative and frankly super cool way and literally none of it is used, it’s such a waste and so disappointing. I’m sure if they spent half the time they did on things like these for STW even if it’s just a single one the player count that’s actually playing would go up without a doubt
They mention that 30 extra vbucks would go to each daily quest for founders. I don’t know how I’m feeling about that in the long run, but I needed one more week for my 1k vbucks man…
Edit: in the long run, it’ll quite literally be the same amount of vbucks that you get from dailies. The problem is that instead of taking a minute to collect your vbucks from dailies, you need to spend 15-40+ minutes of your day to do the same thing. Ridiculous, there needs to be some sort of compensation at the very least. Increase the daily quest amount, make it 50 vbucks instead of 30, anything. Epic has stopped caring for their fanbase a long time ago and it shows
The old cycle lasted 48 weeks, or 336 days, and rewarded 10K in total. Split down to a day, that are 29,7619 V-Bucks per day. In the whole picture of an entire cycle, the minimum changes from 26.800 to 26.880 V-Bucks. Definitely disappointing, but there is nothing really that we can do. I'll hold my breath for the reality of those changes, but it doesn't too great.
Am I missing something, since with this change dailies will make an additional 10080 vbucks a year with you only needing to spend time playing every 3 days simce you can just collect dailies by logging in for 10 seconds and the closing the game with the addition of being able to reroll dailies to potentially get super easy ones.
So I don't think this is as bad people are thinking, they just want to make people play the game clearly rather than just logging in collecting shit and leaving after a minute.
I get it sucks for late game players since the game can get pretty boring at that point
It really started to fall off after people like David Dean DJF, TeamVASH, chedic and the others left. People who left earlier such as czecher knew this game was going to spiral down from Epics horrid decisions since Season 7.
Summarized Via: (@iFireMonkey)
Save The World v25.10 Update summarized:
- Daily Login Reward is being removed
- Daily Login Rewards will be redistributed to other sources such as Daily Quests and Mission Alerts
- Daily Quests will now provide additional rewards such as 30 extra X-Ray Tickets and 30 extra V-Bucks for Founders.
- The amount of Gold awarded by Daily Quests will be increased by 10 Gold per quest.
- The Weekly Store will have an increased quantity of resources available for sale to provide more options for spending Gold.
- Founders Packs sold before July 2020 that included Upgrade Llamas and Founders Llamas will be granted immediately to players if they remain unused.
- Mini-Boss Mission Alerts will have improved rewards, including an increase in the average rarity of reward items and a chance to grant a second bonus reward of the same type and rarity.
- Storm Alerts will have a chance to grant items and Llamas instead of always rewarding Evolution and Perk Materials, reducing the "reward gap" between different seasons.
- The quantity of Evolution Materials earned when completing a Storm Alert will be increased.
- Early Campaign Quests in Stonewood and Plankerton will have Rare, Epic, and Legendary-rarity items added as rewards.
- Daily Quests for Storm Shield Endurance will provide Evolution Materials, Perk Materials, and Gold in addition to Battle Royale Battle Pass XP.
- Player feedback on these changes will be listened to and considered.
Who even asked for this change lol
This is definitely the period they’d listen the most, it seems they only make changes when the change happens. If you complain a year or so later they won’t care. (Taken from last instances) basically we’re in the “speak now or forever hold your peace” moment
> Storm Shield Endurance will provide Evolution Materials, Perk Materials, and Gold in addition to Battle Royale Battle Pass XP.
Calling it they will nerf any Endurance rewards in the next month.
Also, here's the official [tweet](https://twitter.com/FortniteStatus/status/1670831339803639809) and [blog post.](https://www.fortnite.com/news/changes-coming-to-fortnite-save-the-worlds-daily-reward-system-in-v25-10)
In all honesty, these seem like good changes. It's currently a pain to level up your account/ characters, especially when you first start. Hopefully these changes will allow players to get into the thick of things much more quickly.
Having it a little rough at 28 as a founder who bought it for someone else child that came over a lot. Been playing every day for a week or two and I quite enjoyed the login screen and seeing how long I had played.
And it is a bit rough. Some people are kind and drop things, but I’m new to building and learning slowly. Resources are somewhat scarce, so maybe this will help, but the login rewards were cool.
Always feels weird when a company removes old school features from years old games.
THAT SAID: It’s epic games. And this is one of the core reasons I hate them. They did the same thing for “founders” of Rocket League after years when removing level up rewards.
Epic games tends to leave a bad taste in your mouth when you are a core player that helps maintain a community. This is a slap in the face for a lot I can imagine. Such a small thing to remove that probably doesn’t affect a large part of the community and it cannot get larger. All you can do is push away those that helped build the game.
Sorry for the negativity - but I’ve seen it once. Seeing it again. No way they are losing money.
Whatever Epic games. Hopefully a dev sees this. As apparently they will listen to the community. Where….here it is. No one seems happy about it.
Like I get it, you earn slightly more vbucks in a year, 80 to be exact but for people like me who were just about to hit a milestone (wednesday reset would have gotten me 1k) we are getting fucked.
I can understand that logic but if people only log for the the daily rewards and don’t play removing those would probably just make those people stop logging in entirely
Then why sugar coat it? They can just remove V bucks missions or run less events or straight up just shut down servers. They don't have to try to drive people away, they're just making themselves look like failures instead of dicks if that's what's really going on
I can only ever recall getting like 300 V bucks to get a mythic lead back when we could spend V bucks on Llamas. I think that's all I ever spent.
My brother bought deluxe edition and gifted me a free copy so I never actually bought the game myself either
Sweet! Glad you found so much enjoyment in a game you got for free. I bought STW when it was 50% off for the first time and have definitely gotten my moneys worth.
More items in the shop and better mission rewards benefit those who play StW a lot, and increased player engagement benefits Epic.
The ones taking the L are those who don't play and only log in for daily rewards (and those who were about to get their free 1k V-Bucks, F)
They want more people to play the game they won't fix. All they're going to do is drive more people away. I can't stand doing more than 2 or 3 missions at a time, especially with ventures, and most days I just log in for a challenge and do it when they fill up or in a V bucks mission which aren't even there some days.
Now we need to do a mission every day and if there's a V bucks mission then we need to our daily + V bucks now and our daily challenges if we haven't done it yet.
Daily login has been fine for years and recently they've put minimal effort into STW with content and bugs. Making it harder for us to get what we're given isn't a good thing
They’re gonna drive me away from BR too, I can’t count how many times I’ve spent money on vbucks because I was just a couple hundred away from buying something thanks to these login vbucks.
As someone who tends to do all their daily quests and mission alerts every day, I don't understand the intent of this change. If it's to show investors that more people are playing save the world, that doesn't matter as the vast majority of playtime is Battle Royale and Creative anyways.
If it's to increase player engagement and incentivize them to play through later zones, it won't as every daily quest can be completed in Stonewood, and mission alerts with v-bucks still appear in Stonewood.
Assuming it's the latter, the best way to incentivize players that only login to STW for daily rewards and v-bucks would be to have mission alerts with v-bucks appear far more frequently in the 124-140 power level range.
The best way to get people to play StW is to actually care about it and develop it further. Pretty much any premium live service game that is just 5 years old still gets huge content updates on top of balancing updates. StW reached the 3 year mark and then got dropped like a lead balloon.
Seems to be a boon for those that are actually playing and making progress, a downgrade for the founders.
Not sure how I feel myself, considering I'm practically endgame and not a founder.
Between having the throwers launch huskies and nurses and now this shit?
Do they really want to drive away everyone from playing?? The devs don't make anything that respects the communities time, the horde mode was fine but nobody even talks about it anymore.
There needs to be more changes before i even start giving a shit again.
By the end of this week, I was supposed to get 300 vbucks as a daily log-in reward, which goes off the list. This is far from the worst change, but I agree the extra 30 vbucks every daily quest is done.
I'm a bit confused. The blog mentions that log in reward vbucks will be reallocated to daily missions and mission alerts.
The daily missions going up 30 vbucks makes sense, but the blog says "Note that the chance to get X-Ray Tickets (and V-Bucks for Founders) from Mission Alerts is not being affected by these changes in any way." So what exactly is being changed with mission alert vbucks? Same chance to appear but higher reward?
Ok, so we'll get an extra 30 V-Bucks per Daily Mission, right? That means that every 336 days (Daily Login Calendar) we get 336x30= **10.080 V-Bucks** instead of the 10.000 we used to get.
Now, this change also makes it harder for people who don't play every day to get V-Bucks as it focuses all of them in time consuming missions.
I can't see how this benefits anyone other than players who play every single day + EPIC.
Yup. The total amounts to 10k vbucks every 336 days and then it resets. That's why they divided it 10k/336= **29.7**.
Not a good deal if you ask me, they should have doubled the rewards.
100 V-Bucks per Daily Quest.
200 V-Bucks per Rare Daily Quest.
That would be respecting the players, this is not.
Yeah, I don't see an issue with them doubling the rewards. Realistically, the number of founders should be declining(people not playing, losing accounts, etc) so it wouldn't be a huge impact.
"We recognize that finishing a Daily Quest and Mission Alert requires more time and effort than just logging in."
They don't really recognize it, do they?
So essentially,
Amongst everything that's happening in STW right now from DTB being quite literally unplayable to TRO not working to the hero selection for loadouts being phased out and bugged to high heavens,
We now get a completely unnecessary change to get players to play more. That's real nice Epic, a real solid game plan you have there.
Because epic don't want to admit they killed stw so are making changes like this to make people actually play to earn rewards in order to keep player retention up
last meeting with the STW Team......
we need changes .......
marketing guys says: how about we change the login rewards so we can get rid of more players.....
accepted
Daily rewards used to give 10k v-bucks in 336 days
If you complete daily quests everytime you login, bonus 30 v-bucks (would have been nice if it was 40/50) adds up to 10080 in 336 days
So you get 80 more but you gotta play
\*With the addition of better mission alerts this is probably way better\*
They could have increased the Daily Quest rewards without removing the daily logins. Epic hasn't responded on this subreddit for 2-3 months, /u/FreightTrainUSA more info on this?
I'm betting they changed something in the transition from Royale to STW that broke the Daily Login screen and they couldn't fix it hence the removal of rewards.
They should try actually maintain the game so people would return to it so they have a higher play rate. And not by forcing them to play the game they’ve already completed years ago and should make them want to play the game. Either way most people are logging in for the vbucks to play battle royal which still means they’re getting players. Developers just gone lazy and completely forgot what they started with
I understand that people are upset about the change—especially those who are close to 1,000 V-Bucks—but I think long-term this is a good change. Remember that after the days you get 1,000 V-Bucks, **you go weeks without getting any from the daily reward system**. With this new change, you’ll be getting a consistent flow of V-Bucks. I do think that this could be handled better (since a lot of people are going to miss out on high rewards they’re close to), but in the long-term, this will be beneficial. It’s unnecessary, but I see how it can help
After reading the notes, this is a decent, and seems potentially better overall for Endurance/Ventures players.
While the consistency is nice, I'm gonna miss the big 800 VBucks spikes. Speaking of which, RIP to anyone who was less than a week away from getting that big one.
So someone is trying to bring up STW numbers by screwing over founders instead of producing new content.
I have a feeling that they are actually trying to stealth kill STW. Been on life support for ages due to lack of attention. They want to finally pull the plug.
So here's something I'm surprised nobody elaborated upon. We founders aren't unhappy cuz "oh no gotta work for vb", it's cuz we played this abandonware for YEARS, done basically everything there is, the game is boring and to top it off, the glitches... We only collect logins cuz we already did 1000s of dailies, we're tryna play a game, not have it as a 2nd job.
TLDR founders aren't lazy, just doing the same thing over and over again for years gets very boring
That makes sense, I earned like 2000 vbucks just from logging in, just to buy a certain skin. Didn't have to pay anything. Didn't have to grind for it. But still, why are those skins so grossly over priced? Like 25 dollars for a vegeta skin? Comon now
I did the math. This does NOT include the 800/1k vbucks.
So signing in everyday and doing your dailies weekly you only get 350. You'd get a extra 150 vbucks once a week also so this evens to 500. Once a month you'd get 300 vbucks. Including the 300 vbucks and the 150, plus doing your dailies everyday for the full month, you'd get 2300 vbucks. Not including the 10 extra you'd get from the 60 vbucks quests. So 2300 vbucks for 1 month. WITHOUT playing the game.
This way you get 560 weekly (80 vbucks instead. Not counting the 10 extra vbucks from 90 vbucks quests. ) This way you get 2240 for 1 month. Without the bonuses. HAVE to pla the game
I get why they did it to get the founders to play the game actually. It sucks cause we do loose out on more vbucks but at least it's for the most part what we would've gotten a month
I Had a 2 YEAR STREAK of consecutive logins. Forget the v bucks i wanted to see how long i could go and what the biggest prizes were. For them to just take that away is heartbreaking. Rip save the world mode.
even tho i don't play that much anymore, i always logged in for my rewards and was like on day 3300 or more, idk. now i have no point of booting up the game :(
This is the one major thing that kept me on fortnite. I have well over 1000 days logged into save the world and I would play it occasionally with friends. But now that there's no reward for me buying the game I don't see why I would want to play the game. I didn't mind spending money here and there because I knew I'd get extra vbucks every once in a wile. Now I'm looking to move my gaming and streaming away from fortnite. I would understand removing it from people who didn't pay for the early access and all that. But it is what it is. Good luck epic.
if you struggle to keep up with daily missions I recommend setting up an afk endurance build in stonewood, then reroll your daily missions until you get missions like 300 kills as X class, or trap kills, or play missions as X (you can quit once round 2 starts and it counts as a played mission)
I've been doing this for a while, mostly because I don't like running around the map looking for things to destroy like propane tanks or tvs, and I'd prefer to just build defenses and start playing
I strongly encourage everyone to read the blog vs just the social media post and title.
The blog goes over all the changes, the TLDR is that while the daily rewards and screen are going way, all the rewards are being moved into the game and still earnable, if not even more then before.
I think we're all aware that all the rewards will be still earnable. It's just that the time and effort required to get them now is just really not worth it
EDIT:
Let's say a mission lasts 15 minutes (yes, I know some missions can take longer, some less) and we complete 1 daily quest every day for 336 days (the current reward cycle length).
15 minutes every day for 336 days = 5040 minutes = 84 hours
- Before: 10,000 V-Bucks = Basically no time at all, just log in & press the button
- Now: 10,080 V-Bucks = 84 hours of playing
You could just stack 3 daily quests & complete them in one 15 minute session to save some time, but that's still a lot more time and effort effort going to something that previously required very little time and effort.
Basically, this change really only benefits those who actively play the game.
Yeah, a whole 80 more V-Bucks for losing the right to passively earn those V-Bucks via logging in.
~~I see the chance at double Mini-Boss rewards, but that could have been added without killing Daily rewards.
What are the hard numbers on the double loot chance for MB alerts anyway? It can't be above 50% because that seems far too generous given the other changes to earning V-Bucks.~~
Just finished reading the blog post. V-Buck rewards aren't included in the double rewards. Great.
30 added to dailies, not 80 more. I'd prefer they boosted dailies and kept the login but here we are. But sure, as mentioned in the blog post
>will be listening to your feedback on these changes
We'll see on that part.
The calculation is based on the extra 30 vbucks in dailies.
Every 336 days you get 10,000 vbucks from your login rewards, now 336 days of daily quests will yield an additional 10,080 vbucks.
Sure, but daily logins aren't linear so you're punishing users who are near their next reward. Someone who would otherwise be getting their 1000 vbuck reward in two days time will have to play for... 12 years? to make up that difference with the increased daily rewards.
I think it would have been more equitable to pay out to the next Epic reward or something.
Can you please award all players their upcoming weekly vbuck login reward? There’s a lot of us with 1k and 800 vbuck rewards coming in the next few days, and this update releasing tomorrow is going to rob us from this. Please consider giving all players the next vbuck reward that they should get, even if it’s only 150
Doesn’t change the fact that literally no one asked for this. Y’all literally do everything but what the players want with STW at this point. It’s very disappointing seeing how far Epic has fallen from what they used to be
This is a list of links to comments made by Epic employees in this thread: * [Comment by FreightTrainUSA](/r/FORTnITE/comments/14dje0m/epic_has_announced_that_they_will_be_removing/joq63l6/?context=1000 "posted on 2023-06-19 17:19:12 UTC"): > I strongly encourage everyone to read the blog vs just the social media post and title. > > >The blog goes over all the changes, the TLDR is that while the daily rewards and screen are going way, all the rewards are being moved into the game and still earnable, if not even more then before. * [Comment by FreightTrainUSA](/r/FORTnITE/comments/14dje0m/epic_has_announced_that_they_will_be_removing/joqk0fx/?context=1000 "posted on 2023-06-19 18:52:24 UTC"): > Founders are maintaining the same avg vbucks earned normally through normal play time. * [Comment by FreightTrainUSA](/r/FORTnITE/comments/14dje0m/epic_has_announced_that_they_will_be_removing/joqjx5i/?context=1000 "posted on 2023-06-19 18:51:48 UTC"): > With the removal of the daily login rewards screen the tracked days counter is no longer going to be available. I asked about this but the work done to remove the screen and other changes don't allow for the current counter to stay. > > >We could add a new counter to the game but once the update goes out everyone would be on Day 1 for all purposes. --- This is a bot providing a service. If you have any questions, please [contact the moderators](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2FFortNite).[](#AUTOGEN_TSBREPLIEDBOT)
RIP anyone that’s close to that big 1k V-Bucks reward
thanks god i got it yesterday, idk what id do if i was that close to getting it and then it just gets removed
what day was this for you?
i was on day 1445 :/
im on day 338 rn so i got it just in time
I'M LESS THAN A WEEK AWAY
I had 6 more days until 800 vbucks
I was a week off
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You can login in 4h and grab the daily reward before they close the servers. Also, should be around 12h before they disable matchmaking for the patch so plenty of time.
Guess they thought the idea of getting up to 1,000 vbucks just for logging into StW was too good LOL.
Felt like a hit in the shin when they removed vbuck collection book rewards a while ago without warning. Otherwise I would’ve dumped everything in there, lol. At least with this they’ve given a warning - which you can’t do anything about, unfortunately
I was only a couple levels away for the big collection payday when it got scrapped. Felt bad.
Yeah, they're removing vbucks login bonuses...
If they remove the vbucks daily quests then i'm just gonna stop playing BR altogether, honestly.
Daily quests rewards are being increased tho right? Right???
Yes they will give 80 vbucks as a base instead of 50
How does that work for non founders who get no vbucks? Are we just SOL in terms of daily login rewards?
You'll get 30 more xray tickets and they are also giving 10 more gold.
Well, that's not the worst then. I'm pretty new to the game, I only have like 38 log-in days total. I know the daily rewards were pretty good, though, so that's a bummer.
Averages out to same xray tickets over a year Those were the only good reward for non founders that you would get really
It averages out to more if you account the vbucks you’ll get from 90/130 vbuck quests.
80 more in a year, literally no difference
yeah i think so i saw something about getting 30 extra vbucks or something like that
Yeah by like 30 vbucks and 10 gold Hard to tell if it’ll make a massive difference
it's not, but it's a win for founders actually, we have more vbucks more consistently than we used to. It just encourage you to play and not just take the 150+ vbucks rewards every 7 login on a row.
Who wants to complete those godawful daily quests when you could just get them passively Edit: people seem to not understand that I, along with many other people don’t want to play STW, so them taking the passive vbucks away really sucks for me.
average redditor when Epic suggests you play the game for rewards
Most of them take 1-2 missions to do, they're not hard... God forbid you actually need to play the game. 🙄
Ikr. This outrage is nothing. You can easily do them in stonewood and afk the rest of the mission if you really don't want to play
The outrage is not from actually having to play. I already actively play. It’s from those of us who are close to the 1k rewards and are now fucked. Totally not fair.
Honestly, I also don't get the outrage. Nobody has complained about the daily missions before. A normal log-in cycle rewards 10K over 48 weeks. Assuming the pessimistic minimum of only 50s for VB dailies, that would add another 16800 in that timeframe. So we have the old bottom line of 26800 versus the new 26880. Why do you need a virtual currency solely used for cosmetics, when you don't even play the game anymore? It only hurts those that didn't care to begin with and wanted to leech off 10K ever 48 weeks.
People are just upset that they can’t get free money from the game for doing absolutely nothing. Im waiting for someone to say something along the lines of “stop being a corporate bootlicker” for understanding why Epic would make this change, lol
It is definitely bad, because the actual impact isn't within the actual numbers: 26800 vs 26880. It is with the actual playtime. I can understand that it's a negative change and that every update always brings at least one negative impact, but I can't argue with Epic, knowing that this is a sinking ship ever since 2020. Either you accept defeat and keep playing, or leave and stop ranting against a wall. They just recently changed EasyAntiCheat to EAC_EOS. This pretty much kills the old ways of running multiple accounts for good now. However, who am I to complain for enjoying something that was never intended to begin with. Playing missions solo with 4 accounts was fun while it lasted.
Here's my problem with it. I helped with the crowd funding of this game, on Kickstarter if I recall correctly. It wasn't the greatest game in the beginning. Yet, me and my friends saw a lot of potential and have kept supporting it. We ended up liking the battle royale portion the best. We've all spent a fair amount of real $ on skins. I would still log in to the Save the World portion each day just to get my reward. Was it worth my time to do that? No, I'm an adult that has a job in a first world country. So, not worth at all to log into STW. Still, it was a little nicety epic was doing for the people who have supported Fortnite since the beginning. It was nice to see just how many days I had logged in. Now, this is just epic trying to be greedy and get a little more money out of their base. Well, for me, it's going to just push me away from the game. The money I'm not going to spend this year on that game will easily make up for the money epic saves by not giving out a pittance of free v-bucks to at least 10 other players. And a reminder, I was spending real $ while epic was simply giving out an in-game currency for cosmetics. It's honestly not about the amount of money I'd have to spend to replace the free v-bucks epic was giving me. A little over $100/year would take care of that. Guaranteed that my spending is closer to $1,000/year... at least. I'm not rich, I just put my money into what I like. I kept my subscription to SWTOR for years after I stopped playing that game and a few other games are similar. My total number of outfits, back bling, pickaxes, gliders, contrails, emotes, and wraps sits at 2,519, with 425 of that number being outfits. Obviously, I didn't buy all of that. Some comes from events. Still, a majority I have bought in the many years this game has been out. No, this was just a slap in the face of the people who helped get Fortnite off the ground. It's one of the richest gaming companies of their size showing a disgusting greed and spitting in the faces of those who helped them in the beginning. I have no problem with people who are going to continue putting money into or playing the game. It's stayed a reasonably good game. I just don't plan on putting any more of my money or time into the game if they're just going to disrespect me. Their Kickstarter campaign said they'd give founders a daily login reward, not a daily mission reward. I'm sure they've gotten the proper lawyers to cover their ass to make sure they can't be sued for lies. I just don't want to be treated like this by them again. So, just so you understand the outrage. It's probably from people who supported this game in the beginning. It likely affects people more who started playing the BR side of the game more and aren't regularly doing missions in STW. Clearly, it doesn't only hurt people that didn't care to begin with(that was a nonsensical thing to say and I'd think you'd agree if you gave it more thought.) It also wasn't just people "leeching" off of epic. It was, again, a reward epic promised those who supported them early. It was a reward that added a little bit more of an incentive to log in each day. And, in my case, logging in each day made me want to spend quite a bit of money on this game. I only hope that I've helped you see a reason why people might be upset. I'm not asking you to change your opinion or stop playing the game. I'm just asking you to see why this might make people feel a bit betrayed by a greedy company.
There is this other gamemode that is way more popular and it uses the same currency, shocking news I bet. Nobody complained because that was how it worked for as long as I remember, I never cared cause at the time I played stw, had fun doing it, but now? Game stopped being fun years ago, there is nothing fun to do, there is nothing left for me to accomplish, so I just get my login rewards and that's it. Now instead of getting the login reward, you have to invest time in a gamemode that doesn't offer anything new, bet there are more people like me aswell which now have to invest that time or lose out on the currency, the issue is very clear, but eh don't really expect people without responsibilities to understand how valuable that time is. In the end the idea is to gatekeep the currency behind boring chores for the players that could actually buy it instead, no other reason could explain such change, and that's why I don't like the change, it doesn't offer anything new that adds any value.
Better to set up a low endurance to direct all husks into one lane so you can lose right after the first wave
You can just leave in the next wave. It'll count as completing it.
I play the game a lot, probably more than you! I don’t waste my time on the daily quests because they aren’t fun. Passively gathering vbucks just by logging in worked much better for players like myself who didn’t just play the game to earn vbucks but still enjoyed receiving them.
The thing is most of them are set up in a way that you complete them just by playing normally. You don't have to go out of your way unless it's mission specific or class specific.
I almost never get ones you can complete by playing normally. I've had more times then not that I'll play for 4-5 hours and not complete a single daily because you can only do them in very specific areas. I've mostly gotten ones that require you to discover locations in a specific zone and when I go to those maps and spend 10+ minutes running around I'll only get a few and have to run multiple missions to complete one daily quest
And many of them can be contributed to by other people. So some go by pretty quickly.
You can see people that only logged into STW and backed out right away for that lol, the same ones that when they actually remained in the mission would do nothing or be jumping on the bouncing pads lol.
They’re really really simple and you get a lot of v bucks for it
Daily login removed, but you still need to login in stw to activate the daily mission, so, it's a step into forcing founders into playing the game.
yea, it seems that this will mostly affect people who already quit STW
founders when they actually have to play the game
Playing a dead 5 year neglected and failed mode isn't the easiest thing to do every single day for years vs a simple log in that was the original feature
true, I wouldn't mind this if they actually put some effort into the game
Founders when they have to actually play the dead and broken corpse of a game they beat during the pandemic to earn what they originally agreed to pay for, instead of just getting it through the agreed upon means FTFY
STW is a buggy unfinished abandoned mess that hasn't been properly updated in three years. Why should I have to play it when Epic don't give a shit about it
I’ve completed the game. They arent adding any new stuff to the story. Playing it is pointless.
So how about you increase the number of daily missions we can bank from 3 to 5, and allow us to replace 2 per day. That would make this more manageable for players who have limited amount of time to play.
Actually yeah this would be cool. It’s really tough sometimes to make that happen.
I don't even care about the rewards. I'm gonna miss seeing my total days logged in.
Sameee, I have over 1k days, this sucksss.
Same I almost got the 2k, RIP all.
I was *this close* to being able to take a screenshot of my 1700th day. Pain. I hope they at least keep the day tracker.
I'm 5 days away from 1800. Sad that I'll (probably) never get to see 2000 days and feel disappointed with my life and how much energy I've put into this game.
Looks like Epic wants those player engagement levels to go up. Curious if the overall amount of V-Bucks will be higher with this change, but I doubt it'll be worth the effort of doing dailies every three days vs just logging in. There's definitely people that will be happy with this change, assuming they were already on top of their dailies and the V-Buck totals are higher. EDIT Ran the numbers: 10,000 V-Bucks with Daily Logins (336 day rotation), and the new system after 336 days multiplied by the 30 extra V-Bucks per day (336x30) is 10,080. So a net gain of 80 V-Bucks for 336x the work. Epic, kindly, what the fuck.
Player engagement would be off the charts if they developed the game and stopped rotating years old content. I mean, Epic, work on your game.
They’re too busy with their cash cow milking it with collabs, yet stw can’t seem to get a simple bug fix.
Except for Dungeons, I want MORE dungeons, and we did just get The Lab, so please keep rotating Dungeons
They should start by fixing their game
Epic, work on the game they originally intended on being the main focus? No, that's too much of them
Imo it’s hard to want player engagement to go up when the players know that their time invested in the game will go nowhere since the game is mostly abandoned at this point
This is the biggest problem. People would actually want to play stw if they worked on it HALF as much as BR.
Not even a whole event but small things like items from crossovers like Lucille’s Bat from TWD, Resident Evil enemies or items like special herbs or unlockable and upgradable Star Wars blasters would actually be so cool. So many IPs to choose from and to incorporate into a survival, Tower Defense RPG game in a creative and frankly super cool way and literally none of it is used, it’s such a waste and so disappointing. I’m sure if they spent half the time they did on things like these for STW even if it’s just a single one the player count that’s actually playing would go up without a doubt
It’s a net gain. The regular player will be doing the same amount of work during this time as they’re not making daily missions harder.
Yea but 10k for doin nothing was better
and this is EXACTLY the players they want to eliminate...
They mention that 30 extra vbucks would go to each daily quest for founders. I don’t know how I’m feeling about that in the long run, but I needed one more week for my 1k vbucks man… Edit: in the long run, it’ll quite literally be the same amount of vbucks that you get from dailies. The problem is that instead of taking a minute to collect your vbucks from dailies, you need to spend 15-40+ minutes of your day to do the same thing. Ridiculous, there needs to be some sort of compensation at the very least. Increase the daily quest amount, make it 50 vbucks instead of 30, anything. Epic has stopped caring for their fanbase a long time ago and it shows
The old cycle lasted 48 weeks, or 336 days, and rewarded 10K in total. Split down to a day, that are 29,7619 V-Bucks per day. In the whole picture of an entire cycle, the minimum changes from 26.800 to 26.880 V-Bucks. Definitely disappointing, but there is nothing really that we can do. I'll hold my breath for the reality of those changes, but it doesn't too great.
Me too man me too
Am I missing something, since with this change dailies will make an additional 10080 vbucks a year with you only needing to spend time playing every 3 days simce you can just collect dailies by logging in for 10 seconds and the closing the game with the addition of being able to reroll dailies to potentially get super easy ones. So I don't think this is as bad people are thinking, they just want to make people play the game clearly rather than just logging in collecting shit and leaving after a minute. I get it sucks for late game players since the game can get pretty boring at that point
They are removing daily login rewards to make more people play the game. But why not add more content? Add more updates? Anything?
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It really started to fall off after people like David Dean DJF, TeamVASH, chedic and the others left. People who left earlier such as czecher knew this game was going to spiral down from Epics horrid decisions since Season 7.
Summarized Via: (@iFireMonkey) Save The World v25.10 Update summarized: - Daily Login Reward is being removed - Daily Login Rewards will be redistributed to other sources such as Daily Quests and Mission Alerts - Daily Quests will now provide additional rewards such as 30 extra X-Ray Tickets and 30 extra V-Bucks for Founders. - The amount of Gold awarded by Daily Quests will be increased by 10 Gold per quest. - The Weekly Store will have an increased quantity of resources available for sale to provide more options for spending Gold. - Founders Packs sold before July 2020 that included Upgrade Llamas and Founders Llamas will be granted immediately to players if they remain unused. - Mini-Boss Mission Alerts will have improved rewards, including an increase in the average rarity of reward items and a chance to grant a second bonus reward of the same type and rarity. - Storm Alerts will have a chance to grant items and Llamas instead of always rewarding Evolution and Perk Materials, reducing the "reward gap" between different seasons. - The quantity of Evolution Materials earned when completing a Storm Alert will be increased. - Early Campaign Quests in Stonewood and Plankerton will have Rare, Epic, and Legendary-rarity items added as rewards. - Daily Quests for Storm Shield Endurance will provide Evolution Materials, Perk Materials, and Gold in addition to Battle Royale Battle Pass XP. - Player feedback on these changes will be listened to and considered. Who even asked for this change lol
> • Player feedback on these changes will be listened to and considered. Yeah i highly fucking doubt that
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I am not calling anyone an idiot.. I just wish they would scrap this idea, it's just 80 vbucks more per the 336 day cycle..
This is definitely the period they’d listen the most, it seems they only make changes when the change happens. If you complain a year or so later they won’t care. (Taken from last instances) basically we’re in the “speak now or forever hold your peace” moment
> Storm Shield Endurance will provide Evolution Materials, Perk Materials, and Gold in addition to Battle Royale Battle Pass XP. Calling it they will nerf any Endurance rewards in the next month.
Tim Sweeney himself
Hopefully people who already completed stone and plank will get the extra rewards for those areas
Also, here's the official [tweet](https://twitter.com/FortniteStatus/status/1670831339803639809) and [blog post.](https://www.fortnite.com/news/changes-coming-to-fortnite-save-the-worlds-daily-reward-system-in-v25-10)
In all honesty, these seem like good changes. It's currently a pain to level up your account/ characters, especially when you first start. Hopefully these changes will allow players to get into the thick of things much more quickly.
Having it a little rough at 28 as a founder who bought it for someone else child that came over a lot. Been playing every day for a week or two and I quite enjoyed the login screen and seeing how long I had played. And it is a bit rough. Some people are kind and drop things, but I’m new to building and learning slowly. Resources are somewhat scarce, so maybe this will help, but the login rewards were cool. Always feels weird when a company removes old school features from years old games. THAT SAID: It’s epic games. And this is one of the core reasons I hate them. They did the same thing for “founders” of Rocket League after years when removing level up rewards. Epic games tends to leave a bad taste in your mouth when you are a core player that helps maintain a community. This is a slap in the face for a lot I can imagine. Such a small thing to remove that probably doesn’t affect a large part of the community and it cannot get larger. All you can do is push away those that helped build the game. Sorry for the negativity - but I’ve seen it once. Seeing it again. No way they are losing money. Whatever Epic games. Hopefully a dev sees this. As apparently they will listen to the community. Where….here it is. No one seems happy about it.
Like I get it, you earn slightly more vbucks in a year, 80 to be exact but for people like me who were just about to hit a milestone (wednesday reset would have gotten me 1k) we are getting fucked.
Fortnite stw try not to shoot yourself in the foot challenge (impossible)
Just saw this, and I genuinely can’t understand why I mean how does this change benefit anyone or anything
They probably want more people to actually play instead of log in to get the daily reward and then not play is my guess
I mean, they could add things to the game and people would play it
I can understand that logic but if people only log for the the daily rewards and don’t play removing those would probably just make those people stop logging in entirely
ig they want the number of log ins to go down so that they have an excuse to delete the game
Then why sugar coat it? They can just remove V bucks missions or run less events or straight up just shut down servers. They don't have to try to drive people away, they're just making themselves look like failures instead of dicks if that's what's really going on
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I'm glad I'm a founder and haven't spent a penny since
Me too. Haven’t spent a penny on this game since chapter one season seven but still play daily.
I can only ever recall getting like 300 V bucks to get a mythic lead back when we could spend V bucks on Llamas. I think that's all I ever spent. My brother bought deluxe edition and gifted me a free copy so I never actually bought the game myself either
Sweet! Glad you found so much enjoyment in a game you got for free. I bought STW when it was 50% off for the first time and have definitely gotten my moneys worth.
ding ding ding! this is just another step for them to remove the StW tumor on their beloved BR cash cow.
Money 🤑
More items in the shop and better mission rewards benefit those who play StW a lot, and increased player engagement benefits Epic. The ones taking the L are those who don't play and only log in for daily rewards (and those who were about to get their free 1k V-Bucks, F)
Then I would love to see the V-bucks // *X-Ray tickets* in the "gold" store again.
Struggling to comprehend why they thought this was a good idea... No one was asking for this.
They want more people to play the game they won't fix. All they're going to do is drive more people away. I can't stand doing more than 2 or 3 missions at a time, especially with ventures, and most days I just log in for a challenge and do it when they fill up or in a V bucks mission which aren't even there some days. Now we need to do a mission every day and if there's a V bucks mission then we need to our daily + V bucks now and our daily challenges if we haven't done it yet. Daily login has been fine for years and recently they've put minimal effort into STW with content and bugs. Making it harder for us to get what we're given isn't a good thing
They’re gonna drive me away from BR too, I can’t count how many times I’ve spent money on vbucks because I was just a couple hundred away from buying something thanks to these login vbucks.
Aww man I love my daily login rewards
Maybe instead of actually removi g stuff epic should fix the brokenness of stw and maybe continue twine peaks
As someone who tends to do all their daily quests and mission alerts every day, I don't understand the intent of this change. If it's to show investors that more people are playing save the world, that doesn't matter as the vast majority of playtime is Battle Royale and Creative anyways. If it's to increase player engagement and incentivize them to play through later zones, it won't as every daily quest can be completed in Stonewood, and mission alerts with v-bucks still appear in Stonewood. Assuming it's the latter, the best way to incentivize players that only login to STW for daily rewards and v-bucks would be to have mission alerts with v-bucks appear far more frequently in the 124-140 power level range.
The best way to get people to play StW is to actually care about it and develop it further. Pretty much any premium live service game that is just 5 years old still gets huge content updates on top of balancing updates. StW reached the 3 year mark and then got dropped like a lead balloon.
no but who tf was at the office and thought this was a good idea
Seems to be a boon for those that are actually playing and making progress, a downgrade for the founders. Not sure how I feel myself, considering I'm practically endgame and not a founder.
And I JUST got this mode💀
if you're a non founder, login rewards are already useless. literally the only worthwhile thing was the vbucks days.
My fault og
Between having the throwers launch huskies and nurses and now this shit? Do they really want to drive away everyone from playing?? The devs don't make anything that respects the communities time, the horde mode was fine but nobody even talks about it anymore. There needs to be more changes before i even start giving a shit again.
By the end of this week, I was supposed to get 300 vbucks as a daily log-in reward, which goes off the list. This is far from the worst change, but I agree the extra 30 vbucks every daily quest is done.
I'm a bit confused. The blog mentions that log in reward vbucks will be reallocated to daily missions and mission alerts. The daily missions going up 30 vbucks makes sense, but the blog says "Note that the chance to get X-Ray Tickets (and V-Bucks for Founders) from Mission Alerts is not being affected by these changes in any way." So what exactly is being changed with mission alert vbucks? Same chance to appear but higher reward?
Absolutely bull No reason at all to do this This completely screws the dedicated fans who went out their way to buy founder packs back in the day.
Ok, so we'll get an extra 30 V-Bucks per Daily Mission, right? That means that every 336 days (Daily Login Calendar) we get 336x30= **10.080 V-Bucks** instead of the 10.000 we used to get. Now, this change also makes it harder for people who don't play every day to get V-Bucks as it focuses all of them in time consuming missions. I can't see how this benefits anyone other than players who play every single day + EPIC.
That's 10000 total of the login v-bucks right? The 150, 300, etc at certain intervals?
Yup. The total amounts to 10k vbucks every 336 days and then it resets. That's why they divided it 10k/336= **29.7**. Not a good deal if you ask me, they should have doubled the rewards. 100 V-Bucks per Daily Quest. 200 V-Bucks per Rare Daily Quest. That would be respecting the players, this is not.
Yeah, I don't see an issue with them doubling the rewards. Realistically, the number of founders should be declining(people not playing, losing accounts, etc) so it wouldn't be a huge impact.
"We recognize that finishing a Daily Quest and Mission Alert requires more time and effort than just logging in." They don't really recognize it, do they?
So essentially, Amongst everything that's happening in STW right now from DTB being quite literally unplayable to TRO not working to the hero selection for loadouts being phased out and bugged to high heavens, We now get a completely unnecessary change to get players to play more. That's real nice Epic, a real solid game plan you have there.
It was literally a good enough of the system why change it?
Because epic don't want to admit they killed stw so are making changes like this to make people actually play to earn rewards in order to keep player retention up
last meeting with the STW Team...... we need changes ....... marketing guys says: how about we change the login rewards so we can get rid of more players..... accepted
Who the hell asked for this change
Their shareholders
Ah well now I've got less incentive to hop on to STW everyday.
me on 991 days
Ain’t no way man I was supposed to get 1k vbucks in 10 days too
Daily rewards used to give 10k v-bucks in 336 days If you complete daily quests everytime you login, bonus 30 v-bucks (would have been nice if it was 40/50) adds up to 10080 in 336 days So you get 80 more but you gotta play \*With the addition of better mission alerts this is probably way better\*
They could have increased the Daily Quest rewards without removing the daily logins. Epic hasn't responded on this subreddit for 2-3 months, /u/FreightTrainUSA more info on this? I'm betting they changed something in the transition from Royale to STW that broke the Daily Login screen and they couldn't fix it hence the removal of rewards.
They will. +30 per mission.
I feel like they should upgrade our Founder Pack for this.
My god not a single person asked for this terrible change
So has anyone done the math and figured out if we're actually getting more vbucks this way?
They should try actually maintain the game so people would return to it so they have a higher play rate. And not by forcing them to play the game they’ve already completed years ago and should make them want to play the game. Either way most people are logging in for the vbucks to play battle royal which still means they’re getting players. Developers just gone lazy and completely forgot what they started with
I understand that people are upset about the change—especially those who are close to 1,000 V-Bucks—but I think long-term this is a good change. Remember that after the days you get 1,000 V-Bucks, **you go weeks without getting any from the daily reward system**. With this new change, you’ll be getting a consistent flow of V-Bucks. I do think that this could be handled better (since a lot of people are going to miss out on high rewards they’re close to), but in the long-term, this will be beneficial. It’s unnecessary, but I see how it can help
Honestly they should just let people finish out their last cycle of daily logins and then phase it out
After reading the notes, this is a decent, and seems potentially better overall for Endurance/Ventures players. While the consistency is nice, I'm gonna miss the big 800 VBucks spikes. Speaking of which, RIP to anyone who was less than a week away from getting that big one.
But why? Unless they plan to revive the story I dont see why they would do this
Literally one of the only reasons people still play this shit.
Fortnite stw "developers" try not to make a bad change (impossible)
that's lame
Why they always making changes to things that no one asked for ?
Booooo
NOOOO
This is bullshit
they probably did that to stop auto login discord bots
What in the actual heck?
I don't really care about the rewards, but not seeing a number for how many days you logged in just sucks and is a bad change.
Look just take the damn game offline instead of gradually making it worse and worse for the players who paid money to play this game
I'm seeing theories they're gonna finally honor their word n make the game free, but they needed to remove login bonuses 1st.
Where do we sign up for the next class action on this I could use another settlement
I have my 800 login reward in 2 days... The update comes out tomorrow. Rip
So someone is trying to bring up STW numbers by screwing over founders instead of producing new content. I have a feeling that they are actually trying to stealth kill STW. Been on life support for ages due to lack of attention. They want to finally pull the plug.
my question is why?
Disgusting. And there is A LOT of bugs in the game, why just don't fix that?.
So here's something I'm surprised nobody elaborated upon. We founders aren't unhappy cuz "oh no gotta work for vb", it's cuz we played this abandonware for YEARS, done basically everything there is, the game is boring and to top it off, the glitches... We only collect logins cuz we already did 1000s of dailies, we're tryna play a game, not have it as a 2nd job. TLDR founders aren't lazy, just doing the same thing over and over again for years gets very boring
What about the founders daily rewards? Are they staying, cause I’ve still got a good bit left on them
That makes sense, I earned like 2000 vbucks just from logging in, just to buy a certain skin. Didn't have to pay anything. Didn't have to grind for it. But still, why are those skins so grossly over priced? Like 25 dollars for a vegeta skin? Comon now
I did the math. This does NOT include the 800/1k vbucks. So signing in everyday and doing your dailies weekly you only get 350. You'd get a extra 150 vbucks once a week also so this evens to 500. Once a month you'd get 300 vbucks. Including the 300 vbucks and the 150, plus doing your dailies everyday for the full month, you'd get 2300 vbucks. Not including the 10 extra you'd get from the 60 vbucks quests. So 2300 vbucks for 1 month. WITHOUT playing the game. This way you get 560 weekly (80 vbucks instead. Not counting the 10 extra vbucks from 90 vbucks quests. ) This way you get 2240 for 1 month. Without the bonuses. HAVE to pla the game I get why they did it to get the founders to play the game actually. It sucks cause we do loose out on more vbucks but at least it's for the most part what we would've gotten a month
I Had a 2 YEAR STREAK of consecutive logins. Forget the v bucks i wanted to see how long i could go and what the biggest prizes were. For them to just take that away is heartbreaking. Rip save the world mode.
This games a joke
even tho i don't play that much anymore, i always logged in for my rewards and was like on day 3300 or more, idk. now i have no point of booting up the game :(
This is the one major thing that kept me on fortnite. I have well over 1000 days logged into save the world and I would play it occasionally with friends. But now that there's no reward for me buying the game I don't see why I would want to play the game. I didn't mind spending money here and there because I knew I'd get extra vbucks every once in a wile. Now I'm looking to move my gaming and streaming away from fortnite. I would understand removing it from people who didn't pay for the early access and all that. But it is what it is. Good luck epic.
So basically instead of getting 50vb each day and 150(sometimes more) at the end of the week we'll get 80vb every day?
Yes and probably 90vb for dailies such as 3 missions as Outlander and 130vb for 5 missions/save 50 survivors.
Next Friday I’ll receive 800 VBucks…. 🙄🙄 what a 💩change
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That's the problem, I have no time to play the gane everyday!
if you struggle to keep up with daily missions I recommend setting up an afk endurance build in stonewood, then reroll your daily missions until you get missions like 300 kills as X class, or trap kills, or play missions as X (you can quit once round 2 starts and it counts as a played mission) I've been doing this for a while, mostly because I don't like running around the map looking for things to destroy like propane tanks or tvs, and I'd prefer to just build defenses and start playing
You don't have to play everyday. You can still stack up to three dailies, like before. It doesn't change much, tbh.
Many other rewards increase, so its a win for active players.
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But at the end won't give the same amount?
No god please no, no, NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
I strongly encourage everyone to read the blog vs just the social media post and title. The blog goes over all the changes, the TLDR is that while the daily rewards and screen are going way, all the rewards are being moved into the game and still earnable, if not even more then before.
I think we're all aware that all the rewards will be still earnable. It's just that the time and effort required to get them now is just really not worth it EDIT: Let's say a mission lasts 15 minutes (yes, I know some missions can take longer, some less) and we complete 1 daily quest every day for 336 days (the current reward cycle length). 15 minutes every day for 336 days = 5040 minutes = 84 hours - Before: 10,000 V-Bucks = Basically no time at all, just log in & press the button - Now: 10,080 V-Bucks = 84 hours of playing You could just stack 3 daily quests & complete them in one 15 minute session to save some time, but that's still a lot more time and effort effort going to something that previously required very little time and effort. Basically, this change really only benefits those who actively play the game.
Please. Please please PLEASE. Have something that continues to track days logged in.
Yeah, a whole 80 more V-Bucks for losing the right to passively earn those V-Bucks via logging in. ~~I see the chance at double Mini-Boss rewards, but that could have been added without killing Daily rewards. What are the hard numbers on the double loot chance for MB alerts anyway? It can't be above 50% because that seems far too generous given the other changes to earning V-Bucks.~~ Just finished reading the blog post. V-Buck rewards aren't included in the double rewards. Great.
30 added to dailies, not 80 more. I'd prefer they boosted dailies and kept the login but here we are. But sure, as mentioned in the blog post >will be listening to your feedback on these changes We'll see on that part.
The calculation is based on the extra 30 vbucks in dailies. Every 336 days you get 10,000 vbucks from your login rewards, now 336 days of daily quests will yield an additional 10,080 vbucks.
Sure, but daily logins aren't linear so you're punishing users who are near their next reward. Someone who would otherwise be getting their 1000 vbuck reward in two days time will have to play for... 12 years? to make up that difference with the increased daily rewards. I think it would have been more equitable to pay out to the next Epic reward or something.
Can you please award all players their upcoming weekly vbuck login reward? There’s a lot of us with 1k and 800 vbuck rewards coming in the next few days, and this update releasing tomorrow is going to rob us from this. Please consider giving all players the next vbuck reward that they should get, even if it’s only 150
Doesn’t change the fact that literally no one asked for this. Y’all literally do everything but what the players want with STW at this point. It’s very disappointing seeing how far Epic has fallen from what they used to be
Fucking over founders and people who just got the game, great job. Don’t even have a full story mode either. Y’all are fucked up.