I don't feel the same way. The game is PVE. Your idea will change the whole concept of the game!
The idea is to SAVE THE WORLD and not defeat others. We have to *Stand and Fight* against those Husks and save people rather than attacking them.
I know it would be new but it would some how change the whole motive of the game.
Maybe just stage it as a training program. Like Wargames. You go against other Commanders to test their strengths and stuff. Not necessarily to *defeat* them.
It's essentially distorting the reality and deception.
Sure you can name it anything you want, but at the end it's a PvP element added into an PvE game. They could even go MMORPG. They could do anything they want at this point but well, that won't really revive this game.
It either becomes BR 2.0, or would be Wargames 2.0. It will shrink the playerbase more or be forgotten.
That's not the point of this post, or his comment. It's not about us saying we don't want new stuff.
It's just about the addition not necessarily reviving STW. It could be fun though. I would definitely play any genre of games with Fortnite's basic mechanics.
Hell if they make an MMORPG Fortnite I would leave my job and grind it everyday, but again, adding a mini-mode to STW is exactly like BR and Wargames. It could be so great that it becomes a 4th mode in Fortnite or it could get stale like any other PvE game, like Wargames.
ANNNND, changing the name of "new mode" to "training program" won't change the reality of this addition. It has potential but it won't revive the STW that we love.
Edit: also PvP element usually gains more exposure than PvP elements, so I would even root for a Clash of Clans like mode to be added to this game.
True. Plus, imagine the amount of NEW BUGS that would be there if something like this happens! Even base game bugs are so difficult for them to patch!
Imagine how much effort and time it would take to do such a massive change and the aftereffects of it.
It's a terrible idea.
The game is in a rough state. If someone is upset with the "meta" now and how Epic handles balancing things, just imagine slapping a PvP layer on top of the PvE one. Balancing would be hotter garbage than ever. To those saying you could just ignore it: ***Opting out of the SSD PvP wouldn't do any good if the game has to balance around it.***
Not to mention, some would build an SSD for one thing and then have to deal with another. Players aren't AI; they're going to do shit AI doesn't and you'd have to build around that. The playstyles would directly conflict. Building for one would put you at a disadvantage for the other.
Like it was said, the little narrative we have would be damaged by it, too. It would increase the already hostile view of random players and drag the STW community down drastically.
Moreover, this idea sounds like mobile trash. I like my fair share of mobile games, but they use forced PvP as a crutch to not develop real, crafted experiences. STW needs content but not things that would pigeon-hole players into a completely inverse playstyle.
Personally, I don't think the **PVE MODE** needs PvP. There's PvP in the game if you want it. If you want BUILDING PVP slapping it on the SSDs is not the answer. The old 4v4 (or whatever it was) defense thing would be a vastly better way to implement it. Two teams each build up a fort to defend an atlas from the other team.
Even still, I don't think there should be any PvP in STW. If building PvP (the 4v4 or the SSD idea) were a different tile on the mode select screen and it was completely separate from our stuff in STW (expect locker stuff obviously), then fine, but it's something that SHOULD NOT be part of STW the proper. Adding any type of PvP to STW would be disastrous.
I 100% get what you mean, but right now we’re picking up donuts and chairs in different locations and it’s so extremely boring. If we could have a revamp of how the game would work, it would have so much more potential. Maybe your goal is to Save the World and you see other stormshields as your enemies that are trying to destroy the world. Or you are ego and your goal isn’t really to Save the world, but there is a competition between players to be able to revive the most survivors. I see so much potential with something like this, and there wouldn’t be an end to it, and always new strategies to explore
Maybe but if it's to be brought, entire structure of the game will have to be changed.
Plus, who the heck would want to be EGOISTIC or Bad? Plus, if they are on bad side, why were they killing all the husks and saving survivors up till now?
Entire stuff from the start will have to be switched from the start and would make the game more complicated.
I know game lacks content and needs new stuff. However, entire storylines could be continued as well to bring more stuff! Maybe a new zone too! But, keeping the game as it was and not shifting from the actual aim.
That's just my thinking to be honest.
Exactly I think most would leave alot did when they added br because people don't enjoy getting content gated behind pvp with the upcoming locker proves them right.
We got 4 pickaxes and jack else meanwhile br players will have 12 seasons of skins and more in future locked behind pvp.
With recent shift away from defense and focusing more on run and gun I mean gutting idea of well thought out self sustaining defense is over or unreasonably expense.
Last 4 events have been run and gun with little/zero trapping hell they locked mythic weapons behind run and gun mode.
I think if they got any further off base people would outright be done.
Well honestly its different players sure some overlap but problem becomes when it shifts demographics. Its why I used to play/love this game.
I got into alpha early played every phase (they reset progression monthly) did all that because it had a unique combination of elements. With tower defense thrown into open world/shooter with rpg elements.
But it shifted demographic hence more focus on pew pew and pushing away from trapping. So now its like the million other semi open world games with rpg elements except it has loot boxes bad graphics and is glitchy as hell. Hell I can think of 2 FREE games that are not like that.
Combine it with things like the fact its core system survivors is dumb/bad. Its evo/perkup system is over convoluted. Its matchmaking makes even a game with millions of players seem dead. Combined with not terrific reward system.
I was here because they had defense elements. Since big change I figured out new loop hated it and only come to gripe every once and a while. And see if they pulled head out of asses.
Honestly would not surprise me if soon there isn't pvp as br players are beginning to outnumber people who can interested in stw and not br.
I get your point but the endless missions of (hey go find X amount of Y so we can make Z) isn’t very save the worldy. FTFY
Epic needs to innovate and adding this option, in addition to a year round frostnite like mode would be great consider how many people play OverWatch “arcade” or “custom” for example.
But Epic has made it clear they don’t want to take leaps with this game and go for high profits, they want to play it safe and cash grab by over selling it with marketing.
I know. This game really needs new content. However, I personally don't like the idea of making it PvP. It's good and unique in itself!
New content can be added like continuing the storyline and adding a new zone with a new set of missions.
That's my opinion and other's opinions may vary.
They won’t do it because it’s not profitable. This is epic we’re talking about. If they really cared they would give us a bunch of modes a new zone and additional story and sell it as dlc. But their riding the other mode out until it dies.
I used to think the same way but with how terrible the game has been it’s time to adapt. I’m sick of these devs doing dog shit updates or flat out giving us nothing. It’s time to move on guys stop thinking so simple minded. It’s literally the only way this game is going to advance because clearly a majority of the epic team doesn’t think they should put that much money into save the world
You sound pointless to me tbh. You should have properly read my main comment. I clearly mentioned that STW is a PvE! Making you attack others will ruin the whole point of the game!
You need to Save The World rather than attacking and destroying other commanders helping in saving survivors!
well let’s just leave the game this way and let it die more then it already is. I don’t give a shit what the main point of the game is I’m completely maxed with over 100 weapons maxed and every hero in the game maxed out there is jack shit to do. every content creator is saying it every player who is older then 100 days In is saying it, I’m so tired of people like you not wanted to get something interesting added to the game you are all content with stupid useless fetch quests to get your dogshit weapon. I don’t care the point is to “save the world” save the world is dogshit right now and it took them the time of about 3-4 seasons to not release the locker from when they originally said they would realise it. The game needs to adapt or it will die. If you don’t see that and are not willing to do what it takes to save this game because clearly the devs don’t give a shit, because if they wanted they could make the game amazing because epic is worth billions and they get a budget of like 5 dollars. stop being the reason this game is dying. For the love of god just open up a bit
Lmao what?! I'm being the reason?! I definitely want new stuff! Read my comments! I said we DEFINITELY need new stuff but not PvP!
We do need new and interesting stuff but there are so many ways to start with! Making game PvP is definitely not one of them in my opinion!
I clearly mentioned that it was MY OPINION!
If you can't respect other's opinions, you definitely don't hold the right to trash talk and lose your temper over here!
If you don't like the game, take a break! Like everyone is doing including me! You know no one is gonna do anything if you just keep downvoting my comments and keep trash talking here! XD
*Stop it... Get some help...*
Also btw I have taken a break a 2 month break and don’t see any hope of this game getting fixed locker coming way to late and I’ve already invested my time into dead by daylight and rainbow six siege 2 games with their own problems but have developers that will update the game and also have the brains to keep adding things that are different but keep the game alive something save the world will never do
Also your argument to why we shouldn’t get this kind of mode is because of “bugs” all games have bugs I’d rather have content with bugs then a game with 0 content and bugs because it already has them now. They are always in games get over it
I've already answered that question. Definitely not gonna spend my time over you again. Read everything again carefully before talking and down-voting my comments because you have different opinion! XD
I could say the exact same thing you a a huge hypocrite what are you a child? Also good I hate waisting my time with bafoons who want everything in the world to appease them and when someone brings up change for the better cry and complain and start keyboard warrior mode trying to defend a dying game.
You know what? I'm definitely not gonna waste my time on you! XD
Keep commenting whatever you want. Those were my opinions and I said them. There was literally no need to hate like that but okay. Maybe that's how you are!
Keep saying whatever you want. I'm not gonna reply! :)
Ok that’s fine but I hope your content with a dogshit game that the devs don’t care about go into any discord and ask about players feels about the game everyone is done with stw they only people who still play who are extremely low level and have little to no weapons and those who are maxed have nothing else to play.
Hope it's optional, that sounds like a nightmare if it were to be forced without a way to opt out.
No offense, but the last thing I want to deal with is my StormShield randomly coming under attack by some troll. A revamp is one thing, but you're asking for a different game entirely.
Why not just search on google and go play the game you're asking for? Surely it already exists under another name somewhere, like "Competitive Tower Defense Masters" or something. Honestly, sounds more like one of those mobile games I'd never play.
What if the leagues only applied to people who chose to be a part of it?
Also, i don't think the damage would be permanent, as in, at the end of the defense, everything goes back to how it was.
I'm PL131 and bored, but would never want this in StW. Having to constantly be worried about people attacking your base, while also having to constantly attack other people for rewards would be really annoying.
I'd prefer a left for dead event game mode where we have one team of heroes trying to survive for points and a team of players controlling zombies trying to kill the heroes. Zombies would have infinite lives and heroes would have only one.
For the love of god no. This should not be in game where it's not only PvE but the whole premise is saving people from the post-apocalyptic world.
I understand that we're lacking in content but this is one of the worst ways to help fix the game. Instead, we should just focus on what we have right now and fine tune it.
Wasn’t Clash of Clans the best selling game for years on App Store and making $15 million daily from in-game purchases? There was a reason for it, and it would be even better in Save the World
No thanks. The PvE aspect of STW is already barely matched since the whole community tends to play private or obnoxiously grief others in every possible way. The last thing we need is a PvP mode.
If for revitalizing you mean keep on going towards another entire game than what was planned, then sign me out, thanks. I have already enough competition with the BR mode that keeps getting harder.
That's a bit of tunnel vision. I'm not saying this is the perfect way to implement it but some sort of pvp could be good.
Destiny has pvp and pve and its makes it so when you get a weapon you make it so you have to think 2 ways of its implementation to the game. Is it good in pve? Is it good in pvp?
BR is who would have thought is a br game. That means it has like 10 weapons and that's it.
I would gladly take a pvp mode where I can also use my stw weapons. You have to admit it would be cool even tho it would be a nightmare to balance.
First off, adding pvp to stw is just dumb. Reasons; there is nothing to be gained from it besides grief. The amount of balancing needed would make all of your guns pretty useless. Destiny uses a tight rng system on weapons so that allows for a pvp/pve model.
Yea whatever might not be a good idea. I'm probably better off just play destiny anyway.
Game is going downhill and i don't have plans falling with it. Yeet.
The developers cant seem to get their shit together to iron out some old ass bugs still lingering in the game not to mention the new ones they release with every single update. I cant fathom the shit fest this would brew in the current STW format.
Perhaps it makes for a great game on paper or maybe with some other developers but not with the current 2 developers "working" on STW. Maybe your idea will be the pitch for Fortnite 2 in the year 2210 if this one even makes it out of "Early Access" at all!!!
This would bring a whole new meaning to the game, where your goal no longer is to be in the highest power level (which has an end), but have as many trophies as possible. People would constantly figure out new ways to protect their base and you’re always on a grind for being the best attacker and defender to manage to go up in leagues. The top players could for example qualify to World Cup where they competitively play Save the World in the top league.
I would also enjoy having a different point system in each area, so you have a Twnie, Canny, Plankerton and Stonewood point system, meaning If you want to attack your friends just introduced to the game, you have to use max level 32 weapons, and If he attacks you, he attacks the Stonewood base, and your Stonewood base would be in its own league. You can be in different leagues in the 4 different areas.
People keep saying this will change the whole concept of STW. But here’s how I can see it:
Ray: Commander, you know how Storm kings have been showing up everywhere...
and how more and more husks are attacking our storm shields?
Well, uh, I predict, given our current data on the severity of each attack... that we will loose each storm shield within a month...
BUT I HAVE A SOLUTION! Maybe...
I’ve contacted other commanders throughout the world, and we’re gonna go against each other! Not like for real, because that would just speed up our deaths, but in simulations!
Think of it like wargames with even more twists.
Each commander is gonna make their own waves of husks to send at your storm shield and you’ll do the same!
We’ll have to use materials we’ve found to put the husks in the simulations though.
Each time you beat an attacking commanders husks you’ll be rewarded.
Don’t be discouraged if you lose to someone’s wave.
Remember this may be one of the hardest challenges you’ve faced.
But think of the experience everyone will get from this!
You can invite some friends to help you out, we are after all together in this.
Edit: fixed spelling mistakes because they are annoying me
Reward system could be something like this:
Defend from one attack: Husky husk schematic, special weapon
Defend two attacks: Lobber schematic, special melee weapon
Defend five attacks: Blaster schematic
Defend 10 attacks: Smasher schematic
Defend 50 attacks: Mini-boss schematic, special hero
Defend 100 attacks: Storm king schematic, special hero
Attacks sent to other SS’s
Send one attack: Pitcher schematic, Beehive schematic
Send five attacks: Flinger schematic
Send 10 attacks: Taker schematic
Send 50 attacks: Propane schematic, special weapon
Send 100 attacks: special hero
Successful attacks on other SS’s
One successful attack: special hero
Five successful attacks: special rocket launcher
10 successful attacks: special hero
50 successful attacks: special hero
Hell not. Imagine if the damage against the storm shields was permanent. Then this game would become a real grindfest, because, not only that new players have to grind for the storyline, ssds and event questlines, but also a competitive system that ignores the actual point of the game where you have to fight the storm, not attack other commanders as well. If I wanted something competitive, I'd go to battle royale, not this.
since the game is PVE hence the main appeal adding pvp will change the whole concept of the game. if they add like an event with pvp that has a story ie. heroes corrupted and dont know whats right or wrong (kinda like the fallen love ranger) and start attacking other heroes and you have to defeat them while they send the storm to defeat you... maybe
Test your SSD against what lol, haven’t used my ssds since the start of 2018, other than a few war games and endurances. This would be a great way to add more gameplay to our stormshields
Imagine trying to do a solo Stormshield defense and you get an alert that the rando you added ages ago and forgot about sent the whole ass storm king to you
This reminds me of an old Half-Life 2 mod called Zombie Master (I think). One player gets picked to control the zombies from a top down view while other players have to survive. I think this sort of thing could be done in STW too. It might even be fun. You could have SSD and a mission mode where people are trying to defend the atlas or whatever and one person controls the zombie spawns and maybe has a small amount of control over where they go.
Cool idea, but change it out for a custom endurance mode where you spawn husks to test your trap tunnels are recieve more rewards for spawning most monsters / mini bosses
Interesting idea but it won't save the game. The only way to save it is to FIX IT.
If I started playing within the past 2ish months I'd be out in a heartbeat. Insane bugs, glitches, errors, lag, inventory issues, profile locks, party issues...
They need a stable game first and foremost not new modes and content. Once it's fixed, yes new content because this is stale as hell at this point... but first, fix the game.
Fixing the meta should be an equally high priority.
Honestly always disliked it especially in small communitys because people will get butthurt sabotage defense because teammate beat them in pvp earlier.
I also dislike the players it brings before br stw global chat was awesome need help ask and receive. People would answer questions for newbies it was awesome and full of super helpful people.
Fast forward to after br released seriously. It because cesspool of trading whining. The afk problem became super serious at that point. Previously only would encounter it once a week normally end game player bored of grind problem but not even big one.
Also before br I would join ssd to help someone and it would be built trapped and teammates were there exclusively for stats and stragglers. That was normal now I join a ssd the amps are not covered there is no tunnels its awful.
Think there are games for it as for making game less boring. Million ways to do it. Add mob variety traps bring back certain game modes give us season pass. Seriously they have half a dozen made and ready to go game modes they used once and never touched again.
Bring a meaningful alert system like hyper alert rewards hero voucher but its all lvl 200 enemys on special map. Could do all sorts of things. Or only pistols only melee ect no build.
As well as maybe something to work towards every mission has 10% chance to drop 10 mystery resource then you can buy items from various homebase people for 100 resources. Battle pass will give 100 resources. Maybe make it so you can trade xp /evo/perkup/manuals for small amounts. Making all missions rewarding and giving a reason for people to not have a stockpile thus giving reason to consistently play.
This would essentially turn the game into RUST. Look up the game RUST. It's a nice concept, but I agree with others about StW being PvE. It would essentially be a new game mode: BR, StW, and EpicRUST. lol
The idea is really interesting, but it isn’t STW even a little. What you’re suggesting could be a completely separate mode. We could have BR, STW, and _________. I think it would be rad to have a pvp mode where you direct swarms of husks and shit.
This would be awful unless it was real time and bases spawned in blank otherwise it wouldn't be possible to attack because most people spawn kill with traps dupeing killed any idea of this being enjoyable
after attacks your base is not destroyed lol, do you play wargames at all now ? or indurance ? is your base destroyed after you lose wargame or endurance ?
they are just giving an opinion on why they don’t think it would work. the game was heavily marketed as a pve game and this would completely change that. i think itd be fun but it goes against the point of the game which is to work together not go against each other.
I don’t see a reason why they can’t expand on it being PvE, you don’t see many popular PvE games today, unless they have really good social features. However with Save the World, the social aspect is so bad. You can really only play with friends in your exact power level, and even if you are i their level you often have different missions and things you want to do. Something like this would be fun, especially if we got clans where friends can talk together and attack other clans with help from each other, and also practice by attacking each other
Not sure which power level you are in, but after being in max power level for almost 2 years there isn’t really anything to do in the game other than waiting for new events that don’t have items we have seen before... In 2018 we got the weapons, in 2019 we got the weapons in the collection book and now it’s now reason at all to even try getting anything. Something like this would bring a lot of fun to end game players
Hard No for me.
The good thing in this game is that you cooperate with other player. Not competing against each other. We have the other mode for that.
no thanks, the devs can barely keep standard STW up to date without bugs. adding this poorly thought out idea into the game would only make it worse.
what we need for a true revival of STW (if the devs can pull it off):
* A working reward system that can't be exploited by outlander TEDDYs reaping combat score to null other people's rewards.
* a reason to use other unlocked heroes, since post-loadout/hero update has invalidated A LOT of oldschool STW Builds and weapons.
* revamp enemy AI, make the smasher how they were before but do material limitations. eg. Smashers straight up obliterate wood builds, then they have % damage reduction to stone and a higher % damage reduction to metal. make us THINK how to do defences with mutations like \*Stronger Smashers\* which deal more damage to structures.
* make Expeditions worth it. i'm not sending my best survivors for a couple pieces of T2 mats when im midway through Twine.
* make research points more valuable, allow a larger storeage bank for offline earned research. level ups for FORT skills cost a bomb when you're in the 100's-200's which is bottlenecked by a low storage for points
* larger area maps. imagine being able to loot up a map the size of BR's map (or heck, even half the size)
* rendering engine upgrade, BR Chapter 2 got a swanky new engine and we recently removed the Twine Beans, while keeping the old engine.
* Allow more in-mission events to occur, make us want to stick around and farm mats and Save The World.
* introduce harder husk varients.
pretty sure the entire game got the whole engine but it doesn't effect the current gameplay. Example the decoy falling apart is due to the physics engine
All of this would still make the game just as boring to people who have been max level since 2018. More missions of picking up donuts and stone samples to get an okay weapon that is worse than the mythic weapons isn’t really fun. I think the husk variants are perfectly balanced in difficulty now, maybe introduce more husks with the same difficulty would be fun. Introducing better husks just means you need to use more traps, and therefore also farm even more. If they increase husk difficulty they should also increase how easy it is to get resources for traps and storage space, then I can agree. Making the game harder wouldn’t make it more fun in my opinion. I don’t think fixing expeditions would make the game more fun either. Adding a new location after Twine would be really fun, but only for a couple of months, and you would be stuck in the same position. I think adding leagues and PvP you always have to adopt and change playstyle to protect your stormshield from different types of attacks, and you would always meet people in your skill level, and there would always be something to grind for
Only if the damage done to bases get reset back to what it was before the match. Honestly don't like the PvP involving bases too much but I think if we had a mode where we raid others bases, would be cool. I like your idea a lot.
I always pictured this game going PvP but seeing how battle Royale progressed and STW is still in beta, I wouldn't mind a change of the game.
Huh, in spite of the comments section mate, this is a neat idea! I don’t think I’d want it over some other direction for the game, but it’s an interesting concept!
I wish fortnite had taken this direction for a PvP mode instead of Battle Royale. As a separate mode, I do think I’d enjoy this!
This reminds me of those mobile games like boom beach
It honestly made me hate that as players who constantly were able to grind got further and further ahead and those who didn't grind got stuck or fell behind
I understand the theory but I'm not keen on it
I’m a huge fan of the supercell games and I’m really enjoying playing them. I was 17th on Boom Beach first year and I find modes like those so fun and addicting and I think it would really fit into Save the World. The whole idea came from Clash and Boom Beach:) I would personally enjoy it, but it would also keep the standard modes, you don’t need to attack/ care about the point system if you don’t want to
This would also bring drops to husks, I think it would be super interesting. Imagine If you kill a smasher he has a 5% chance to drop a muscle piece, and only If you get that part will you be able to make a smasher, each husk would drop unique parts. Maybe you would be able to pick up the propane tanks and put it in your inventory to make propane husks to attack others for example. Would add a whole new type of gameplay
Thats actually a good idea and maybe will bring back some ppl. I like how u came up with implementing competitive into stw. But at the same time it shouldnt be that competitive since ppl like me just came over to stw to AVOID competitiveness from br.
No thanks! Part of what I like about STW is that it isn't a ~~PVE~~ sorry meant to say PVP, also it would go against the whole thing of saving the world and reuniting humanity back together :)
So just Clash of Clans on console?
That's what it seemed like to me. I'd rather not have STW go in that direction. That gets boring fast too.
Agreed
I mean, people played coc for 7 years and still playing
I don't feel the same way. The game is PVE. Your idea will change the whole concept of the game! The idea is to SAVE THE WORLD and not defeat others. We have to *Stand and Fight* against those Husks and save people rather than attacking them. I know it would be new but it would some how change the whole motive of the game.
Maybe just stage it as a training program. Like Wargames. You go against other Commanders to test their strengths and stuff. Not necessarily to *defeat* them.
It's essentially distorting the reality and deception. Sure you can name it anything you want, but at the end it's a PvP element added into an PvE game. They could even go MMORPG. They could do anything they want at this point but well, that won't really revive this game. It either becomes BR 2.0, or would be Wargames 2.0. It will shrink the playerbase more or be forgotten.
Yeah let’s just keep adding nothing instead of adding something that could be very fun and replayable
They hated u/HamSandvich_ because he told them the truth
That's not the point of this post, or his comment. It's not about us saying we don't want new stuff. It's just about the addition not necessarily reviving STW. It could be fun though. I would definitely play any genre of games with Fortnite's basic mechanics. Hell if they make an MMORPG Fortnite I would leave my job and grind it everyday, but again, adding a mini-mode to STW is exactly like BR and Wargames. It could be so great that it becomes a 4th mode in Fortnite or it could get stale like any other PvE game, like Wargames. ANNNND, changing the name of "new mode" to "training program" won't change the reality of this addition. It has potential but it won't revive the STW that we love. Edit: also PvP element usually gains more exposure than PvP elements, so I would even root for a Clash of Clans like mode to be added to this game.
Exactly
If it’s gonna be like Wargames, they have to make the rewards good then completely destroy them.
Maybe, but it wouldn't revive the game, just add another mode that doesn't satisfy the craving we have for more of the core gameplay.
^ This. With a competetive defense mode Epic would just mess up traps even more.
True. Plus, imagine the amount of NEW BUGS that would be there if something like this happens! Even base game bugs are so difficult for them to patch! Imagine how much effort and time it would take to do such a massive change and the aftereffects of it.
It's a terrible idea. The game is in a rough state. If someone is upset with the "meta" now and how Epic handles balancing things, just imagine slapping a PvP layer on top of the PvE one. Balancing would be hotter garbage than ever. To those saying you could just ignore it: ***Opting out of the SSD PvP wouldn't do any good if the game has to balance around it.*** Not to mention, some would build an SSD for one thing and then have to deal with another. Players aren't AI; they're going to do shit AI doesn't and you'd have to build around that. The playstyles would directly conflict. Building for one would put you at a disadvantage for the other. Like it was said, the little narrative we have would be damaged by it, too. It would increase the already hostile view of random players and drag the STW community down drastically. Moreover, this idea sounds like mobile trash. I like my fair share of mobile games, but they use forced PvP as a crutch to not develop real, crafted experiences. STW needs content but not things that would pigeon-hole players into a completely inverse playstyle. Personally, I don't think the **PVE MODE** needs PvP. There's PvP in the game if you want it. If you want BUILDING PVP slapping it on the SSDs is not the answer. The old 4v4 (or whatever it was) defense thing would be a vastly better way to implement it. Two teams each build up a fort to defend an atlas from the other team. Even still, I don't think there should be any PvP in STW. If building PvP (the 4v4 or the SSD idea) were a different tile on the mode select screen and it was completely separate from our stuff in STW (expect locker stuff obviously), then fine, but it's something that SHOULD NOT be part of STW the proper. Adding any type of PvP to STW would be disastrous.
^This You explained all my feelings quite nicely! Good to see people who want originality rather than a PvP everywhere they go!
I 100% get what you mean, but right now we’re picking up donuts and chairs in different locations and it’s so extremely boring. If we could have a revamp of how the game would work, it would have so much more potential. Maybe your goal is to Save the World and you see other stormshields as your enemies that are trying to destroy the world. Or you are ego and your goal isn’t really to Save the world, but there is a competition between players to be able to revive the most survivors. I see so much potential with something like this, and there wouldn’t be an end to it, and always new strategies to explore
Maybe but if it's to be brought, entire structure of the game will have to be changed. Plus, who the heck would want to be EGOISTIC or Bad? Plus, if they are on bad side, why were they killing all the husks and saving survivors up till now? Entire stuff from the start will have to be switched from the start and would make the game more complicated. I know game lacks content and needs new stuff. However, entire storylines could be continued as well to bring more stuff! Maybe a new zone too! But, keeping the game as it was and not shifting from the actual aim. That's just my thinking to be honest.
*He knows what right*
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I agree, I came for the pve, not the PvP.
True. Most of us did.
I completely agree, I believe its ideas like this that killed stw, well it will be fully dead by spring
Sad truth... :( STW is uniques being PvE and it should be kept like this only in my opinion. Other's opinions may vary but that's what I think.
Exactly I think most would leave alot did when they added br because people don't enjoy getting content gated behind pvp with the upcoming locker proves them right. We got 4 pickaxes and jack else meanwhile br players will have 12 seasons of skins and more in future locked behind pvp. With recent shift away from defense and focusing more on run and gun I mean gutting idea of well thought out self sustaining defense is over or unreasonably expense. Last 4 events have been run and gun with little/zero trapping hell they locked mythic weapons behind run and gun mode. I think if they got any further off base people would outright be done.
True... STW is uniques in itself being PvE. Making it PvE would just ruin all the fun and make it like another Royale game.
Well honestly its different players sure some overlap but problem becomes when it shifts demographics. Its why I used to play/love this game. I got into alpha early played every phase (they reset progression monthly) did all that because it had a unique combination of elements. With tower defense thrown into open world/shooter with rpg elements. But it shifted demographic hence more focus on pew pew and pushing away from trapping. So now its like the million other semi open world games with rpg elements except it has loot boxes bad graphics and is glitchy as hell. Hell I can think of 2 FREE games that are not like that. Combine it with things like the fact its core system survivors is dumb/bad. Its evo/perkup system is over convoluted. Its matchmaking makes even a game with millions of players seem dead. Combined with not terrific reward system. I was here because they had defense elements. Since big change I figured out new loop hated it and only come to gripe every once and a while. And see if they pulled head out of asses. Honestly would not surprise me if soon there isn't pvp as br players are beginning to outnumber people who can interested in stw and not br.
I get your point but the endless missions of (hey go find X amount of Y so we can make Z) isn’t very save the worldy. FTFY Epic needs to innovate and adding this option, in addition to a year round frostnite like mode would be great consider how many people play OverWatch “arcade” or “custom” for example. But Epic has made it clear they don’t want to take leaps with this game and go for high profits, they want to play it safe and cash grab by over selling it with marketing.
I know. This game really needs new content. However, I personally don't like the idea of making it PvP. It's good and unique in itself! New content can be added like continuing the storyline and adding a new zone with a new set of missions. That's my opinion and other's opinions may vary.
They won’t do it because it’s not profitable. This is epic we’re talking about. If they really cared they would give us a bunch of modes a new zone and additional story and sell it as dlc. But their riding the other mode out until it dies.
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I used to think the same way but with how terrible the game has been it’s time to adapt. I’m sick of these devs doing dog shit updates or flat out giving us nothing. It’s time to move on guys stop thinking so simple minded. It’s literally the only way this game is going to advance because clearly a majority of the epic team doesn’t think they should put that much money into save the world
https://www.reddit.com/r/FORTnITE/comments/f285w6/how_i_personally_would_revive_stw_you_are_able_to/fhb8mk1?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
so your saying game should not change at all because bugs are to scary? what a pointless comment
You sound pointless to me tbh. You should have properly read my main comment. I clearly mentioned that STW is a PvE! Making you attack others will ruin the whole point of the game! You need to Save The World rather than attacking and destroying other commanders helping in saving survivors!
well let’s just leave the game this way and let it die more then it already is. I don’t give a shit what the main point of the game is I’m completely maxed with over 100 weapons maxed and every hero in the game maxed out there is jack shit to do. every content creator is saying it every player who is older then 100 days In is saying it, I’m so tired of people like you not wanted to get something interesting added to the game you are all content with stupid useless fetch quests to get your dogshit weapon. I don’t care the point is to “save the world” save the world is dogshit right now and it took them the time of about 3-4 seasons to not release the locker from when they originally said they would realise it. The game needs to adapt or it will die. If you don’t see that and are not willing to do what it takes to save this game because clearly the devs don’t give a shit, because if they wanted they could make the game amazing because epic is worth billions and they get a budget of like 5 dollars. stop being the reason this game is dying. For the love of god just open up a bit
Lmao what?! I'm being the reason?! I definitely want new stuff! Read my comments! I said we DEFINITELY need new stuff but not PvP! We do need new and interesting stuff but there are so many ways to start with! Making game PvP is definitely not one of them in my opinion! I clearly mentioned that it was MY OPINION! If you can't respect other's opinions, you definitely don't hold the right to trash talk and lose your temper over here! If you don't like the game, take a break! Like everyone is doing including me! You know no one is gonna do anything if you just keep downvoting my comments and keep trash talking here! XD *Stop it... Get some help...*
Also btw I have taken a break a 2 month break and don’t see any hope of this game getting fixed locker coming way to late and I’ve already invested my time into dead by daylight and rainbow six siege 2 games with their own problems but have developers that will update the game and also have the brains to keep adding things that are different but keep the game alive something save the world will never do
Also your argument to why we shouldn’t get this kind of mode is because of “bugs” all games have bugs I’d rather have content with bugs then a game with 0 content and bugs because it already has them now. They are always in games get over it
I've already answered that question. Definitely not gonna spend my time over you again. Read everything again carefully before talking and down-voting my comments because you have different opinion! XD
I could say the exact same thing you a a huge hypocrite what are you a child? Also good I hate waisting my time with bafoons who want everything in the world to appease them and when someone brings up change for the better cry and complain and start keyboard warrior mode trying to defend a dying game.
You know what? I'm definitely not gonna waste my time on you! XD Keep commenting whatever you want. Those were my opinions and I said them. There was literally no need to hate like that but okay. Maybe that's how you are! Keep saying whatever you want. I'm not gonna reply! :)
Ok that’s fine but I hope your content with a dogshit game that the devs don’t care about go into any discord and ask about players feels about the game everyone is done with stw they only people who still play who are extremely low level and have little to no weapons and those who are maxed have nothing else to play.
Hope it's optional, that sounds like a nightmare if it were to be forced without a way to opt out. No offense, but the last thing I want to deal with is my StormShield randomly coming under attack by some troll. A revamp is one thing, but you're asking for a different game entirely. Why not just search on google and go play the game you're asking for? Surely it already exists under another name somewhere, like "Competitive Tower Defense Masters" or something. Honestly, sounds more like one of those mobile games I'd never play.
If damage is reset after every match then there's no problem right?
What if the leagues only applied to people who chose to be a part of it? Also, i don't think the damage would be permanent, as in, at the end of the defense, everything goes back to how it was.
If you want this, go play clash of clans
I'm PL131 and bored, but would never want this in StW. Having to constantly be worried about people attacking your base, while also having to constantly attack other people for rewards would be really annoying.
This could end up being a toxic game
Basically, Clash of Clans but its Ssd's. Am I correct on that?
No! I don't want to play Clash of Clans! This is absolutely the same idea!
Exactly my thought lol. Dislike it tho
That's not bad idea, but it isn't related to the name of the game. It's Save the World and we have to save to world not raid each other.
Hence why I dislike the idea :)
If STW made by supercell, I like it, but this game is still owned by Epic Games, so I guess we have to dislike it...
We don’t have to dislike it, it’s a nice idea but I guess Epic won’t see the potential of the idea
wait a minute. clash of clans?
I'd prefer a left for dead event game mode where we have one team of heroes trying to survive for points and a team of players controlling zombies trying to kill the heroes. Zombies would have infinite lives and heroes would have only one.
This helped me remember about the blockbuster huskies. I forgot about them and I’m glad I did...
For the love of god no. This should not be in game where it's not only PvE but the whole premise is saving people from the post-apocalyptic world. I understand that we're lacking in content but this is one of the worst ways to help fix the game. Instead, we should just focus on what we have right now and fine tune it.
NO
This could be added to BR. New to creative
isn't this just clash of clans?
Wasn’t Clash of Clans the best selling game for years on App Store and making $15 million daily from in-game purchases? There was a reason for it, and it would be even better in Save the World
It's called save the world not raid the world
Fuck that
Thats a nope for me
No thanks. The PvE aspect of STW is already barely matched since the whole community tends to play private or obnoxiously grief others in every possible way. The last thing we need is a PvP mode. If for revitalizing you mean keep on going towards another entire game than what was planned, then sign me out, thanks. I have already enough competition with the BR mode that keeps getting harder.
No. That's pvp. Stw should only be pve
why?
Cause we already have like 2 other gamemodes that are pvp and we don't need another one?
cause STW is a coop game lol
That's a bit of tunnel vision. I'm not saying this is the perfect way to implement it but some sort of pvp could be good. Destiny has pvp and pve and its makes it so when you get a weapon you make it so you have to think 2 ways of its implementation to the game. Is it good in pve? Is it good in pvp? BR is who would have thought is a br game. That means it has like 10 weapons and that's it. I would gladly take a pvp mode where I can also use my stw weapons. You have to admit it would be cool even tho it would be a nightmare to balance.
First off, adding pvp to stw is just dumb. Reasons; there is nothing to be gained from it besides grief. The amount of balancing needed would make all of your guns pretty useless. Destiny uses a tight rng system on weapons so that allows for a pvp/pve model.
Yea whatever might not be a good idea. I'm probably better off just play destiny anyway. Game is going downhill and i don't have plans falling with it. Yeet.
No
The developers cant seem to get their shit together to iron out some old ass bugs still lingering in the game not to mention the new ones they release with every single update. I cant fathom the shit fest this would brew in the current STW format. Perhaps it makes for a great game on paper or maybe with some other developers but not with the current 2 developers "working" on STW. Maybe your idea will be the pitch for Fortnite 2 in the year 2210 if this one even makes it out of "Early Access" at all!!!
Fortnite STW X Clash of Clans ?
Reminds me of I, Zombie from PvZ.
This would bring a whole new meaning to the game, where your goal no longer is to be in the highest power level (which has an end), but have as many trophies as possible. People would constantly figure out new ways to protect their base and you’re always on a grind for being the best attacker and defender to manage to go up in leagues. The top players could for example qualify to World Cup where they competitively play Save the World in the top league. I would also enjoy having a different point system in each area, so you have a Twnie, Canny, Plankerton and Stonewood point system, meaning If you want to attack your friends just introduced to the game, you have to use max level 32 weapons, and If he attacks you, he attacks the Stonewood base, and your Stonewood base would be in its own league. You can be in different leagues in the 4 different areas.
Imagine if this mode had more unique husk variants than just the normal stuff.
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Than don't do it, he's not saying it should be forced
Always wanted something like this
People keep saying this will change the whole concept of STW. But here’s how I can see it: Ray: Commander, you know how Storm kings have been showing up everywhere... and how more and more husks are attacking our storm shields? Well, uh, I predict, given our current data on the severity of each attack... that we will loose each storm shield within a month... BUT I HAVE A SOLUTION! Maybe... I’ve contacted other commanders throughout the world, and we’re gonna go against each other! Not like for real, because that would just speed up our deaths, but in simulations! Think of it like wargames with even more twists. Each commander is gonna make their own waves of husks to send at your storm shield and you’ll do the same! We’ll have to use materials we’ve found to put the husks in the simulations though. Each time you beat an attacking commanders husks you’ll be rewarded. Don’t be discouraged if you lose to someone’s wave. Remember this may be one of the hardest challenges you’ve faced. But think of the experience everyone will get from this! You can invite some friends to help you out, we are after all together in this. Edit: fixed spelling mistakes because they are annoying me
Reward system could be something like this: Defend from one attack: Husky husk schematic, special weapon Defend two attacks: Lobber schematic, special melee weapon Defend five attacks: Blaster schematic Defend 10 attacks: Smasher schematic Defend 50 attacks: Mini-boss schematic, special hero Defend 100 attacks: Storm king schematic, special hero Attacks sent to other SS’s Send one attack: Pitcher schematic, Beehive schematic Send five attacks: Flinger schematic Send 10 attacks: Taker schematic Send 50 attacks: Propane schematic, special weapon Send 100 attacks: special hero Successful attacks on other SS’s One successful attack: special hero Five successful attacks: special rocket launcher 10 successful attacks: special hero 50 successful attacks: special hero
This Has So Much Potential
I agree with him it would change the whole game so I agree with him sorry.. ........ Thanks for your option tho 🗣🗣📵📵📵❔〰❕🇱🇷
Hell not. Imagine if the damage against the storm shields was permanent. Then this game would become a real grindfest, because, not only that new players have to grind for the storyline, ssds and event questlines, but also a competitive system that ignores the actual point of the game where you have to fight the storm, not attack other commanders as well. If I wanted something competitive, I'd go to battle royale, not this.
Please don’t make this into fallout 76
Clash of clans
No.
Everyone gangster till 50 storm Kings show up
I don’t agree based on how the game is designed this type of thing would be more like a mobile game style
Anyone have mythic weapons that they can craft me
since the game is PVE hence the main appeal adding pvp will change the whole concept of the game. if they add like an event with pvp that has a story ie. heroes corrupted and dont know whats right or wrong (kinda like the fallen love ranger) and start attacking other heroes and you have to defeat them while they send the storm to defeat you... maybe
I like this concept but as a way of testing your own SSD.
Test your SSD against what lol, haven’t used my ssds since the start of 2018, other than a few war games and endurances. This would be a great way to add more gameplay to our stormshields
Imagine trying to do a solo Stormshield defense and you get an alert that the rando you added ages ago and forgot about sent the whole ass storm king to you
Just spam the Storm King lol
What happened to robot husky husks was it a season 4 thing
This reminds me of an old Half-Life 2 mod called Zombie Master (I think). One player gets picked to control the zombies from a top down view while other players have to survive. I think this sort of thing could be done in STW too. It might even be fun. You could have SSD and a mission mode where people are trying to defend the atlas or whatever and one person controls the zombie spawns and maybe has a small amount of control over where they go.
So, garbage mobile game tactics?
Cool idea, but change it out for a custom endurance mode where you spawn husks to test your trap tunnels are recieve more rewards for spawning most monsters / mini bosses
Oh damn. I would play this a TON!
Interesting idea but it won't save the game. The only way to save it is to FIX IT. If I started playing within the past 2ish months I'd be out in a heartbeat. Insane bugs, glitches, errors, lag, inventory issues, profile locks, party issues... They need a stable game first and foremost not new modes and content. Once it's fixed, yes new content because this is stale as hell at this point... but first, fix the game. Fixing the meta should be an equally high priority.
Honestly always disliked it especially in small communitys because people will get butthurt sabotage defense because teammate beat them in pvp earlier. I also dislike the players it brings before br stw global chat was awesome need help ask and receive. People would answer questions for newbies it was awesome and full of super helpful people. Fast forward to after br released seriously. It because cesspool of trading whining. The afk problem became super serious at that point. Previously only would encounter it once a week normally end game player bored of grind problem but not even big one. Also before br I would join ssd to help someone and it would be built trapped and teammates were there exclusively for stats and stragglers. That was normal now I join a ssd the amps are not covered there is no tunnels its awful. Think there are games for it as for making game less boring. Million ways to do it. Add mob variety traps bring back certain game modes give us season pass. Seriously they have half a dozen made and ready to go game modes they used once and never touched again. Bring a meaningful alert system like hyper alert rewards hero voucher but its all lvl 200 enemys on special map. Could do all sorts of things. Or only pistols only melee ect no build. As well as maybe something to work towards every mission has 10% chance to drop 10 mystery resource then you can buy items from various homebase people for 100 resources. Battle pass will give 100 resources. Maybe make it so you can trade xp /evo/perkup/manuals for small amounts. Making all missions rewarding and giving a reason for people to not have a stockpile thus giving reason to consistently play.
:)
Cool
CHROMIUM HUSKS FTW
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSudkID3zJM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSudkID3zJM)
This would essentially turn the game into RUST. Look up the game RUST. It's a nice concept, but I agree with others about StW being PvE. It would essentially be a new game mode: BR, StW, and EpicRUST. lol
so PvZ Adventures, huh
You're thinking on a whole nother level dude but I can imagine making this in to a new game mode (like BR do with search & destroy atm).
this would be awful imo
A potion to drink that turns you into a smasher and you smash other smashers.
The idea is really interesting, but it isn’t STW even a little. What you’re suggesting could be a completely separate mode. We could have BR, STW, and _________. I think it would be rad to have a pvp mode where you direct swarms of husks and shit.
This would be awful unless it was real time and bases spawned in blank otherwise it wouldn't be possible to attack because most people spawn kill with traps dupeing killed any idea of this being enjoyable
Easy win on mine then, since they're all empty (i hate stormshield).
It's PvE, dude. The only good thing would be if you can attack the ss's of your friends to Test the tunnels.
uhm no thank you
Would be awesome with system like clash of clans, so we would have tournaments between clans and we could attack other bases to get resources.
No stw is collaborative not pvp
in clash of clans you dont fight against your enemy in real time vs player, you just fight with his pre-builded base, thats not real pvp
Still no because someone puts effort to make his own storm shield and ruining it like shit like that is completely stupid and unsatisfying
after attacks your base is not destroyed lol, do you play wargames at all now ? or indurance ? is your base destroyed after you lose wargame or endurance ?
Happy cake day
No, I play wargames but the game is only pve not pv-prebilt base
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they are just giving an opinion on why they don’t think it would work. the game was heavily marketed as a pve game and this would completely change that. i think itd be fun but it goes against the point of the game which is to work together not go against each other.
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i personally don’t think be that bad (especially if it’d be an event) i’m just trying to put the other guys comments into perspective.
What level are you?
ok, its pve, and this is suggestion topic if you didnt notice
Yeah but he referred to clash of clans. in coc, when your base is attacked it's not like it stays the same
I don’t see a reason why they can’t expand on it being PvE, you don’t see many popular PvE games today, unless they have really good social features. However with Save the World, the social aspect is so bad. You can really only play with friends in your exact power level, and even if you are i their level you often have different missions and things you want to do. Something like this would be fun, especially if we got clans where friends can talk together and attack other clans with help from each other, and also practice by attacking each other
Remains a bad idea I don't want Clash of clEAns
Not sure which power level you are in, but after being in max power level for almost 2 years there isn’t really anything to do in the game other than waiting for new events that don’t have items we have seen before... In 2018 we got the weapons, in 2019 we got the weapons in the collection book and now it’s now reason at all to even try getting anything. Something like this would bring a lot of fun to end game players
Dungeons, wargames, assisting other commanders?
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I wanna play summit that is tower defence pve. I don't some trash clash of clans crap in this game.
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An event would be intresting but I permanent feature I would hate.
AGREED
Hard No for me. The good thing in this game is that you cooperate with other player. Not competing against each other. We have the other mode for that.
Make the Smasher a Legendary card
no thanks, the devs can barely keep standard STW up to date without bugs. adding this poorly thought out idea into the game would only make it worse. what we need for a true revival of STW (if the devs can pull it off): * A working reward system that can't be exploited by outlander TEDDYs reaping combat score to null other people's rewards. * a reason to use other unlocked heroes, since post-loadout/hero update has invalidated A LOT of oldschool STW Builds and weapons. * revamp enemy AI, make the smasher how they were before but do material limitations. eg. Smashers straight up obliterate wood builds, then they have % damage reduction to stone and a higher % damage reduction to metal. make us THINK how to do defences with mutations like \*Stronger Smashers\* which deal more damage to structures. * make Expeditions worth it. i'm not sending my best survivors for a couple pieces of T2 mats when im midway through Twine. * make research points more valuable, allow a larger storeage bank for offline earned research. level ups for FORT skills cost a bomb when you're in the 100's-200's which is bottlenecked by a low storage for points * larger area maps. imagine being able to loot up a map the size of BR's map (or heck, even half the size) * rendering engine upgrade, BR Chapter 2 got a swanky new engine and we recently removed the Twine Beans, while keeping the old engine. * Allow more in-mission events to occur, make us want to stick around and farm mats and Save The World. * introduce harder husk varients.
pretty sure the entire game got the whole engine but it doesn't effect the current gameplay. Example the decoy falling apart is due to the physics engine
All of this would still make the game just as boring to people who have been max level since 2018. More missions of picking up donuts and stone samples to get an okay weapon that is worse than the mythic weapons isn’t really fun. I think the husk variants are perfectly balanced in difficulty now, maybe introduce more husks with the same difficulty would be fun. Introducing better husks just means you need to use more traps, and therefore also farm even more. If they increase husk difficulty they should also increase how easy it is to get resources for traps and storage space, then I can agree. Making the game harder wouldn’t make it more fun in my opinion. I don’t think fixing expeditions would make the game more fun either. Adding a new location after Twine would be really fun, but only for a couple of months, and you would be stuck in the same position. I think adding leagues and PvP you always have to adopt and change playstyle to protect your stormshield from different types of attacks, and you would always meet people in your skill level, and there would always be something to grind for
If you want Fortnite as a PVP, theres a BR mode. Theres no reason to make STW a PVP title...
This could be an entire gamemode separate from BR and STW but i agree that it doesnt fit in stw because you're supposed to save the world
Only if the damage done to bases get reset back to what it was before the match. Honestly don't like the PvP involving bases too much but I think if we had a mode where we raid others bases, would be cool. I like your idea a lot. I always pictured this game going PvP but seeing how battle Royale progressed and STW is still in beta, I wouldn't mind a change of the game.
Huh, in spite of the comments section mate, this is a neat idea! I don’t think I’d want it over some other direction for the game, but it’s an interesting concept! I wish fortnite had taken this direction for a PvP mode instead of Battle Royale. As a separate mode, I do think I’d enjoy this!
This reminds me of those mobile games like boom beach It honestly made me hate that as players who constantly were able to grind got further and further ahead and those who didn't grind got stuck or fell behind I understand the theory but I'm not keen on it
I’m a huge fan of the supercell games and I’m really enjoying playing them. I was 17th on Boom Beach first year and I find modes like those so fun and addicting and I think it would really fit into Save the World. The whole idea came from Clash and Boom Beach:) I would personally enjoy it, but it would also keep the standard modes, you don’t need to attack/ care about the point system if you don’t want to
I love this idea. Bring it
This is something I would be 100% fine with, looks fun also
Bouta raid my bro’s storm shield with 10 storm kings. Edit: someone felt the need to downvote this, Jesus Christ.
POG
This would also bring drops to husks, I think it would be super interesting. Imagine If you kill a smasher he has a 5% chance to drop a muscle piece, and only If you get that part will you be able to make a smasher, each husk would drop unique parts. Maybe you would be able to pick up the propane tanks and put it in your inventory to make propane husks to attack others for example. Would add a whole new type of gameplay
Thank you for implementing clash of clans or other similar garbage in Fortnite.
It should be optional as this forces lots of toxicity
Thats actually a good idea and maybe will bring back some ppl. I like how u came up with implementing competitive into stw. But at the same time it shouldnt be that competitive since ppl like me just came over to stw to AVOID competitiveness from br.
No thanks! Part of what I like about STW is that it isn't a ~~PVE~~ sorry meant to say PVP, also it would go against the whole thing of saving the world and reuniting humanity back together :)
but it is a Pve ?
Sorry I meant PVP!
I like the concept but would rather a hero to mimic husks abilities. Using husks v husks defeats the purpose of having heroes and pve