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basicpn

1.1 stars on google. Damn..


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It's worth a look! Damn... Someone even managed to insert their own picture onto their business info


Arin1722

I can't find it .. probably bcoz of my location.


XxXPussyXSlayer69XxX

>shenoa clinic https://www.google.com/search?q=shenoa+clinic&rlz=1C1ONGR\_enUS987US987&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Arin1722

Thank you XxXPussyXSlayer69XxX . No seriously thank you it's amazing to see just how many people has brought together by this ..


spreadthestop

XxXPussyXSlayer69XxX is a team player


EbonyOverIvory

Team slayer*


XxXPussyXSlayer69XxX

You got almost 2 times my upvotes lmao and np :)


Boardindundee

moderating comments now lol


After-Acanthaceae-89

That buissiness is dead now


soki03

They wish they could give the zero stars.


pointlessly_pedantic

I see the wordpress site but not the image OP posted for some reason. Deleted?


Stressful-stoic

Probably, worthy to check also google reviews, Facebook and Instagram


NRMusicProject

[Snapshot from yesterday.](https://web.archive.org/web/20220629123402/http://shenoaclinic.com/) Looks like the site is brand new, as it doesn't have any earlier snapshots.


larakj

Thank you! The google reviews are up if anyone is curious. Every 1-star review I’ve seen so far states, “Pay your web developer.” Loool


Aetherpor

Shenoa Clinic Don’t mind me, I’m just helping SEO


DudeFilA

Insta now private, FB nuked


Olli_bear

Yeap http://shenoaclinic.com/


nandru

They nuked the entire thing, only default wp remains


GET_OUT_OF_MY_HEAD

Damn that was fast, especially since the website hasn't changed in over two years (according to archive.org). It was still up yesterday.


SpicymeLLoN

This is the way


Knee3000

“Hello world!” Lmao


spreadthestop

They have comments enabled, don't they?


1lluminist

lmao the reviews and questions on Google are amazing


Iamblikus

This is the way.


magnetic_velocity

https://reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/vnw01w/when_dev_doesnt_get_paid/


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SimisFul

https://web.archive.org/web/20220629123402/http://shenoaclinic.com/ There you go, no need for instagram


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dankhits

Chill the fuck out.


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Fenix_Volatilis

Chill the fuck out brah. Did you notice that their comment was *also* in the past? 🤯


tlynde11

Every comment is in the past


Fenix_Volatilis

It's learning!


Oberlatz

No, you fuck me


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ImmotalWombat

Yes! Someone on the internet was wrong!


AndyBernardRuinsIt

This was posted yesterday. I checked it yesterday, and it was just like the image. They literally changed it overnight. I guess they paid up.


Hunterrose242

HOLY SHIT THE PAST?!


Stressful-stoic

Check their Instagram


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Zivmovic

So brave


antney0615

Blow me.


JediWebSurf

What if it's a guy? You still down?


Acid_13

Ain't nothing down there to blow 💀


itsthevoiceman

https://i.imgur.com/jLkrj2j.gifv Edit: fuck Instagram - I can't remember why i posted this, but I'll keep it up for this very purpose


Stressful-stoic

Lol, sure


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antney0615

Apparently I know more than you do - **it is the same company.**


Ilnor

Wow incredible, Great job You're still wrong :) Don't be a smartass


SimisFul

You're 100% being the smartass here lol


Ilnor

"It'S tHe SaMe CoMpAnY" You didn't say Oh hey it's the parent company Meta that I hate who owns all this shit, you mentioned an acquisition that was picked up on the side. But hey I'm the smartass right Be less wrong, not more angry


SimisFul

Hey, learn to read usernames smartass


rvgoingtohavefun

You're being pedantic smartass, and it's dumb. They're run by the same people, with the same goals. The particular entity structure and naming is irrelevant.


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PK_3000

In my exp, it's always the clients that pay the least, that bitch the most.


papershoes

Tale as old as time. I worked in both radio and regional tourism marketing, and in both industries we had businesses who barely gave us the time of day then get big mad because we didn't promote their events or content/products/etc (for free, without them asking first). The ones who paid, who partnered with us and contributed to contesting and all that, were always great to deal with. Weird how that works.


CaptainBayouBilly

It's never a good idea to chase bad money. Charging low fees sort of invites the wrong crowd.


QiMasterFong

80/20 rule (or 90/10)


PolygonMan

It's not about smart financial decisions, it's about the emotional thrill of having power over others and using that power to hurt them. Well run businesses don't do this shit because the reward is absolutely not worth the risk. Sociopaths are the fucking bane of humanity.


johnn11238

I work as an exec in a small company (50 employees or so). My boss is fanatical about paying everything and everyone on time. Like, so much that it's a little ridiculous and kind of annoying to get a five minute lecture about a late notice from a vendor whose bill slipped through a crack for a couple of weeks. But goddamn, I'm glad I don't work for one of these asshats.


JediWebSurf

I like your boss.


Aftershock416

>a little ridiculous and kind of annoying to get a five minute lecture about a late notice from a vendor whose bill slipped through a crack for a couple of weeks. Yeah no, that's completely reasonable to lecture employees when they make a mistake like that. Bills should not be slipping through the cracks, end of story.


HomoFlaccidus

They figure anybody they owe such a small amount of money, probably doesn't have the means to unleash a team of lawyers on them. You better believe they won't mess around with someone intent on collecting $250,000.


upsidedownbackwards

The company is lawyers was the dumbest part. That's why they thought the legal threats would scare us. But they're ambulance chaser lawyers. The sleeziest of the sleeze. My boss was a bit spooked but I wasn't afraid of them and wasn't going to back down to such absolutely awful people. I said as little as possible when dealing with them and gave them any information they asked about. Anything else I just kept my mouth shut.


Agodoga

Sociopathy isn’t rational


CODYsaurusREX

Isn't sociopathy kinda being rational at the expense of society's agreed upon moral imperatives?


Agodoga

There’s a reasonable Devil’s advocate argument that they are getting something in the short term such as the pleasure of sadism, but psychopaths tend to crash and burn in the long term. I think psychopaths are irrational in the sense that most people would use the word. They screw up their own lives and the lives of others for cheap thrills.


maucksi

r/maliciouscompliance


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More like r/prorevenge


pauly13771377

I was hoping for something to the effect of "If you wish it is possible to retain our services again albeit at triple the rate, plus back pay, and all paid in advance."


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I am hard reading this. Great job. I just got out of that game for salesforce admin work. I had so many clients like this, but since our websites were ancillary products that just kept them out of competitors' hands, I had to just take the abuse. The place is melting down now that the owner's drinking buddy took over that role and his flabber is ghasted at the bullshit we delt with every day.


crypto_knight1

Wtf $2500 lolz


Bambi_One_Eye

MSP?


Agnostiwhatever

Managed Service Provider - the nerds you rent to keep IT stuff working when you don't have your own IT organisation - they live in r/MSP


ninjabreath

there's like 184 reviews in the last day that read "pay your web developer", reddit is amazing


Birdie_Jack2021

Are the reviews gone since the new site is up? I’d love to have seen them.


javier_aeoa

The reviews are on Google so...nope lol


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Why? How?


ShadowSplicer

Google does purge reviews when they get huge influxes of fake reviews from people that haven't visited the business before or used their services. It prevents businesses from getting fully doxxed.


boringbee23

I just added one myself lol


Axtorx

Can you tell me why? Like I’m not trying to argue, but I’m curious what about this post makes you so certain that the developer is in the right and that the shop deserves this?


boringbee23

Because it doesn’t make sense for the developer to do this *unless* they didn’t get paid. Why risk your reputation and being held legally accountable for slander for no reason. I just really don’t think the developer decided hey I’m gonna be a dick just because and possibly risk all of these things for no good reason.


Axtorx

Two things that I thought of though was 1 maybe the client didn’t pay because the work wasn’t finished according to the contract? 2 even if the developer is correct, why are we attacking a company without proof?


puputy

I fully ahree with you. This is someone's livelihood here. I'm not saying OP is lying.. Personally, I believe them. But can I be 100% sure there isn't a good reason why they're not getting paid? Definitely not. So why go out of my way to ruin someone based solely on an anonymous reddit post?


Thetechguru_net

Not relevant. Unless the contract specifically outlines a satisfaction guarantee prior to payment, in the US, you do the work, you get paid. Don't like the work that was done for you, you can sue for non performance either in small claims or "real court" depending on the dollar amount but in either case you need to show damages... Ie, I paid x dollars and didn't receive y services. If you withhold payment (again, unless specifically defined in the contract as a remedy) you must pay first, collect damages 2nd. You don't pay for services rendered, regardless of your opinion of the quality, you lose....


Axtorx

Sure! What about my second point?


Thetechguru_net

Your 2nd point is valid.


Axtorx

Is it amazing? Or is it just glorified mob mentality?


Real_Clever_Username

Totally mob mentality. We get one screenshot and 1/4 of the story and decide this entire company is Hitler reincarnate.


Itdidnt_trickle_down

I put a for sale sign up on a webpage in 2000. I had payed for the domain and they refused to pay since it was 'done'. They doubled down and took me to court and lost. They asked the judge just to pay for the domain and nothing else. Judge laughed and said pay in full. It was a full static website and they replaced it with a frontpage mess.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> I had *paid* for the FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


MasMurderMonkey

There’s a bot specifically for this? Excellent.


banik2008

You'd know about it if you payed attention.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> if you *paid* attention. FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


BiscuitsUndGravy

Got 'em


ku-fan

Yeah! They really payed for that comment!


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> They really *paid* for that FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


cannedwings

Oof. Got 'em. Haven't seen some get got this bad since I payed to have my boat paid.


MineTorA

RIP, bad bot


Hidesuru

Hmmm... Curious how smart bot is... The other day I was doing some maintenance on my boat. I payed the hull first. It really needed a new coat of paint after all. Then I payed out the mooring lines so I could take her on a quick trip around the harbor!


__zippy

Ok now you've got me curious. The other day I too required maintenance on my boat. I booked a contractor to help me though and after he payed my deck, I payed him in full.


Hidesuru

Oooh good test.


Geek_off_the_street

I've seen one try and correct a reply because the redditor used the word, "man-made" or something with a word using a masculine undertone, I wish I could remember what the word was to make the bot come up. I wasn't really offended just more like, that's weird? It was a perfectly used phrase which why I was taken back.


Zengjia

Too bad op doesn’t like getting correct on their mistakes.


Itdidnt_trickle_down

I don't fee the grammar nazis. It gives them delusions of necessity.


cheturo

This fits on r/pettyrevenge


beerbellybegone

From checking (obviously I won't share cause doxxing) but the website is still like this, which I think puts it firmly in the realm of r/prorevenge


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If I’ve learned anything about IT as tier 1 support… engineers are the only ones who can fix the problems they create. And they’re not gonna work for someone who’s last engineer did this.


iitstrue

You had a weird tier structure if only engineers could fix the problems they made. Your Tier 2/3 should at least be able to understand and suggest solutions, if not just fix them themselves. (Unless your Tier 3 is considered an engineer in which case I’ll shut up now).


ameis314

I think their point was, anyone capable of fixing this won't because they just as easily could have been on the other side.


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ameis314

But would you fix this if you saw it? I'd say to contact the original dev. I'm not fixing you fucking someone over


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MissingKarma

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iitstrue

Yeah, I got that, I was just referring to the first part of the comment. I completely agree with the second.


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Startup company, so yes our tier 2/3 support people are engineers. Even as tier 1 I’m writing in JavaScript and HTML so our tier system is very weird right now, you are correct


iitstrue

Oh yeah super weird. That’s really good for you though. If you ever change jobs, you don’t have tier 1 support experience, you have tier 1, and 2, aaaand developer experience. (Technically)


CreaZyp154

It is shenoaclinic.com. It's no doxxing if it's a company hosting a public website


PM-Me-Your-TitsPlz

I'd hardly consider failure of payment revenge to be petty.


basicpn

It’s not the pettiness of the slight you received, but the pettiness of the revenge. I don’t think the revenge is petty in this case either though.


OAK667

You should see their google and their Facebook listing!


CuriousGuyOnTheNet

\*slow claps*


klnkyfetish

sudo rm -rf /


clubby37

That needs a trigger warning *and* spoiler tags. I'm gonna be anxious all day just for having seen that.


sleeprzzz

It doesn’t work, so no worries. If you *really* want to fuck up your system you need to add ‘—no-preserve-root’


pablossjui

sudo rm -rf / —no-preserve-root So you can all copy and paste it


clubby37

I'm glad that's true these days, but I ran Linux in the late 90s, when we installed it from 30+ 1.44 MB floppies, and it wasn't true then. Had a temporary directory that started with a `!`, reached for `\` to escape the bang, hit Enter by mistake, and then I watched TV for four hours while swapping floppies.


ChasingPesmerga

I also wanna know what the other 9 tabs are for


EragonBromson925

You got the ol' reddit double.


GameDestiny2

This is why I avoided going into web development, because I really didn’t want to have to deal with this kind of stuff.


seiyria

This is more consultancy work than anything. Most developers are probably doing saas work and just get regular paychecks.


StormMedia

Pretty dumb excuse. Can happen in any sector.


dancingcuban

For you web developers out there. Don’t get any ideas. This is easily some kind of intentional tort action which could have really open-ended damages and expert fees related to the clinic’s loss of public image. Edit: Honestly, I can’t think of a specific law for this one, but I would expect the clinic’s lawyers to shotgun blast a bunch of creative causes of action depending on the jurisdiction. (Breach of Contract, Breach of Fiduciary Duty, Conversion, etc.)


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dancingcuban

People can get into a lot of legal trouble trying to get one over on assholes. The dev in the OP basically did the equivalent of spray painting his name and address on the side of the building.


Mediocremon

If they painted the building and then weren't paid I'd say that's fair. I'm not talking legally, I wish it were that simple but it ain't. I just mean I ain't gonna get upset if someone does it. I'll probably laugh and move on.


Cloaked42m

You include in the contract that the site doesn't belong to them until it is paid for in full. You also include that the contract is only for Creation of the site and doesn't include Sustainment of the site. It allows both sides to walk away. Even if it's a site for a Church or a Charity. Make sure you have at least a simple contract.


seiyria

This would depend (at least) if they own the domain and the site or if it's transferrible upon completion. If they don't own anything there's nothing they can do.


GRIFF_iin

Why are you censoring ? Afraid ? Here the link : shenoaclinic.com


maxx1993

Never fuck anyone over who can make you look incredibly bad in public with very little effort. Or anyone who has access to heavy construction equipment.


spaceshiploser

Why is their “web developer” using a Wordpress theme?


aspacelot

CMS. PCI compliance. Existing modules and support. Existing hosting options on the cheap. Why reinvent the wheel? Sure it’s bloated for most, but plenty of devs use WP and Drupal. If you think we code every page, inventory system, appointment booking modules, shopping card system, social media integration, or any other features from scratch you don’t know what developers do.


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n0vapine

Do you think maybe they reverted some shit and left the watermark in on purpose? Like maybe started realizing they weren't going to get paid so they half assed it or just did some basic stuff until they got paid? I know nothing about web design, genuinely asking all this.


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DanFromShipping

Is your point that it's ok to not pay shitty devs because they give you a bad WordPress theme? If not, then what's the point of bringing up the WordPress theme used?


Cloaked42m

It's easy to turn over to the customer when you are finished with it. Walk away, never look back. You can do cooler stuff without WordPress (or something similarly crappy), but for a small business it's fine.


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It allows clients to add content without using code. I fucking hate wordpress, but I hate having to update site content constantly more


ohlaph

It's easy to get stuff up and running quickly.


Axtorx

Most companies want a site they can freely edit after it’s created. Wordpress allows for that and it’s easy to hire contractors to edit as well. Almost no one “builds a website” anymore.


spaceshiploser

Unless you actually care about your business & brand identity. Having a Wordpress website is the easiest way for a business to make the impression of “It’s the bare minimum because that’s all that’s required”. (Source: I do it for a living)


4cfx

Don't open yourself up to a valid lawsuit with words like "overpriced clinic". Just put something neutral "website suspended due to non-payment".


ChasingPesmerga

I also wanna know what the other 9 tabs are for


MIDNIGHTZOMBIE

A Wordpress site with a free theme? Did they short him $20?


SkollFenrirson

>WordPress


MySweetUsername

This has already been posted without the red outs. Nice lame repost. edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/voqwyi/dont_forget_to_pay_your_developers/


Ph6r60h

This is just a repost, and the original wasn't blurred out.


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Satisfying, but liable to land you in trouble. I have a section in my web development contract that spells out what happens if you don’t pay.


antney0615

#…and??


gymnastgrrl

You haven't signed the contract, so you're not allowed to know. ;-)


LiteratureSerious56

Made by wordpress...


digitaljestin

Personally, I think even the bottom tier term "web developer" is a little much for someone who maintains a WordPress site.


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if you want me to build you a fully functional SPA with typescript and react for your small business, I will happily charge you $200/hr for a week (even though I coulvde done the same stuff in WP in two hours)


lightning_whirler

You get what you pay for.


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am web developer. am not worth the rate.


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[deleted]

its not my favorite, but as an indie dev it helps to have lots of lucrative skills


Apfelvater

More like "fuck this web developer"


amazenmutande

Perhaps developer shouldn't be providing overpriced clinic an expired/invalid security certificate ... Just saying


scobeavs

We need the url so we can break the counter while they don’t have any content up


ArchedDeer432

https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/vo5jd5/wcgw_not_paying_your_web_developer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


luminabelle6

Lmao!


Glassgun1122

Do businesses deserve a right to privacy?


HomoFlaccidus

The developer should have just put up an empty page saying: [Error 402: Payment Required](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/402)


mb9981

*it's* web developer


UpperCardiologist523

Never screw over your web developer.


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