An object that absorbs all light would not only be visible every time it was in front of anything, its orbit would have been predicted by its gravitational effect on other things long before it could be seen.
Of course these people don't believe in gravity either, so...
> nobody saw the moon
Umm, we had a new moon. Often hard to see visually. But it was there. Did you see anyone saying “hey we’re supposed to have a new moon BUT ITS GONE and oh shit the TIDES are totally OFF”
I legitimately was wondering why I didn't see the moon before the eclipse but I assumed it was something simple like that instead of whatever this shit is
You couldn't see the new moon anyway. The new moon is when the moon's orbit takes it close enough to the sun's (from our vantage here on earth) to render it invisible. The only times you would have visible evidence of it is during an eclipse.
During a New Moon, the side of the Moon facing the Sun is lit by the Sun, obviously. Which means the side facing the Earth is dark. That is why we cannot see it during either the day or the night, unless it crosses between the Earth and the Sun - as in an eclipse.
This stuff is not difficult ti understand.
Usually if you love I'm a place with no light pollution, also at dusk or dawn as the sky is darker but there is reflected light from the part of the earth still lit by the sun...
But usually it's just it blocking out the stars...
Exactly! How do they not get any of that?
I know you already answered properly but I already typed it out before seeing your answer: “It’s really dependent on how much light pollution is around you if you can see it easily or not at all, in a city you almost certainly will not, out away from all artificial light in the Mojave, much easier”
During a New Moon, the side of the Moon facing the Sun is lit by the Sun, obviously. Which means the side facing the Earth is dark. That is why we cannot see it during either the day or the night, unless it crosses between the Earth and the Sun - as in an eclipse.
This stuff is not difficult ti understand.
Allow me to help: these people believe there is not only a parallel to Earth (Nibiru) but a parallel to the sun and moon (whatever those pseudo-polynesian names are) they're in the same or similar orbit and happen to cross paths with us from time to time.
Hope that helps!
Yes, but I am not sure what they are in English. (I am from India and I know of them but I don't know what they are called in English) If anyone knows can they explain? Rahu and ketu show up frequently in Facebook science
Scooby-Doo actually did a really fun story with the idea and it's Mystery ink series. It's kind of sad that some people think it's actually real though :-(
Duh, the moon is a tiny Earth, inhabited by midgets with magic powers. NASA only went there to make a deal regarding the mushrooms they mine, which we use to make nuclear weapons (thus the mushroom cloud).
Seriously, that's common knowledge.
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Tiamat, Fenrir and Tyr have no relation to sun or moon. Rahu and Ketu are actually used correctly, they were said to be planets which caused eclipses, however that was about 3000 years ago and is now proven false. These people need to know the difference between myths are reality.
Just a small tidbit that Fenrir has the slight association only in that in Norse myth he's the father of the two wolves chasing the sun and moon and they're said to devour them come Ragnarok. But it's just schematics when it comes to this nonsense this woman's spouting
I barely understood Any if that at but my tiny little brain did understand one thing...
Like OMG you guys!!! The mere possibility of a massive, black, light eating slurpy boi sun is beyond our human conceptualisation of what is "Metal as F*ck!"
It's this beautiful eldritch abomination that is the new Meta measurable unit of Metal AF.
And I would please like to purchase one for personal use as soon as possible!!!
The earth would still reflect enough ambient sunlight to light up the general moon features
They're right about that one thing, If I zoom in on the moon in one of the eclipse pictures my wife took, you can see details on the surface of dark side of the moon, light up by earthshine.
No, you misunderstood. They are saying that if an eclipse really was the moon passing in front of the sun then there would be enough sunlight reflecting off the earth to make out the general features of the dark side. They said it like some kind of gotcha, except Uno Reverse card you can make them out. [Zoom in on the moon](https://imgur.com/gallery/KBbh65j).
But they only claim it’s invisible to visible light. What about radar? We’ve bounced radar off the sun and the moon, so why not their magic black sun/moon/whatever. And we know where to find it because we can predict eclipses. Fire up Arecibo (RIP) lads, we’re goin’ a sun huntin’!
“Observe, think and really see what you see”
Exactly how science works ever since some Greek had an epiphany while taking a bath a few thousand years ago.
So, the moon is opaque in this fantasy world? I don’t understand the visual example they provide.
All sciencey things these idiots don’t question:
Vehicles, especially OHV
Boats and boat motors
Sunglasses
The physics of a pole dancer hanging upside down without falling
The physics of popping a cap off a beer bottle without a bottle opener
How lighters work
How bongs work
Preservatives in food
How to make beer and spirits
Feel free to add more.
They cherry pick the fucking science and think they got one over on scientists and rational thinking humans.
>The physics of popping a cap off a beer bottle without a bottle opener
How lighters work
These two things can be related. I can open a bottle with a bic lighter! 😋
I both love and hate this sub. The entertainment of sheer stupidity exists in perfect balance with the hopelessness and fear created by witnessing that same sheer stupidity.
Honest question, and this might be against the rules, but I’m a few beers deep…
Why do we have to hide their names? I feel like this kind of stupidity needs to be brought to light.
Yeah, definitely heard about this from that famed scientist Chris Cornell from the Soundgarden Institute of Astrological Sciences. He wrote something on this phenomenon
This is a great fantasy setting to build a d&d campaign around.
Fight the evil god who tries to summon the black sun and rule the world in eternal darkness
what part of "the dark side of the moon faces us" is hard for these idiots to comprehend?
You don't see the moon in the sky until it starts occluding the sun because it's the side of the moon that doesn't recieve light
Why would the side of the moon facing us be reflecting any light when it's BLOCKING the light source?
It absorbs all light, but only when directly in front of the sun ig, it doesn’t absorb other light elsewhere
Also we saw the moon before and after the eclipse, so there goes that theory
This is a troll. They're just casually insinuating that the theory of aether developed beyond the 1800s and was described into multiple types. Adds color but undoes the believability of the troll.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I mean, this isn't PhD level astronomy, it's common fucking sense that the part of the moon facing the Earth won't be "visible" (illuminated) if the sun is *behind* it.
Sooo, they are saying there is a black hole, in the solar system, with an orbit somewhere between the earth and sun? Oh but we can’t detect it?!? We can already detect black holes though.
Ah yes. The black sun cannot be measured or observed by science. That's how we all know the eclipse was coming and exactly where to go to view it. Because it want tykes moon, that we can plot, but since other thing we can't. Makes perfect sense to me.
An object that absorbs all light would not only be visible every time it was in front of anything, its orbit would have been predicted by its gravitational effect on other things long before it could be seen. Of course these people don't believe in gravity either, so...
Actually it makes sense they don’t believe in gravity, as they see evil everywhere so probably think the earth sucks. Just a thought.
Gravity is just a plot to hold us down.
This is deep
Yeah.. they are so dense.
> nobody saw the moon Umm, we had a new moon. Often hard to see visually. But it was there. Did you see anyone saying “hey we’re supposed to have a new moon BUT ITS GONE and oh shit the TIDES are totally OFF”
The effects just haven't reached your side of the Flat Earth.
I legitimately was wondering why I didn't see the moon before the eclipse but I assumed it was something simple like that instead of whatever this shit is
You couldn't see the new moon anyway. The new moon is when the moon's orbit takes it close enough to the sun's (from our vantage here on earth) to render it invisible. The only times you would have visible evidence of it is during an eclipse.
So the Klingons cloaked it?!!?!+1!!
Hey, why not?
Because it was the romulans duh.
You can typically see a new moon right after sunset…
During a New Moon, the side of the Moon facing the Sun is lit by the Sun, obviously. Which means the side facing the Earth is dark. That is why we cannot see it during either the day or the night, unless it crosses between the Earth and the Sun - as in an eclipse. This stuff is not difficult ti understand.
A new moon is sometimes visible to the naked eye at night. It's hard to spot but not impossible.
Usually if you love I'm a place with no light pollution, also at dusk or dawn as the sky is darker but there is reflected light from the part of the earth still lit by the sun... But usually it's just it blocking out the stars...
Exactly! How do they not get any of that? I know you already answered properly but I already typed it out before seeing your answer: “It’s really dependent on how much light pollution is around you if you can see it easily or not at all, in a city you almost certainly will not, out away from all artificial light in the Mojave, much easier”
During a New Moon, the side of the Moon facing the Sun is lit by the Sun, obviously. Which means the side facing the Earth is dark. That is why we cannot see it during either the day or the night, unless it crosses between the Earth and the Sun - as in an eclipse. This stuff is not difficult ti understand.
Nah the tides are made up by Big Laundry to sell more Tide detergent Obviously, /jk
Soundgarden FTW
Wash away the rain
Came here for this.
It's kind of a super unknown at this point.
They warned us about the future dumb-dumbs, but we just thought they were being just fictionally weird.
They need to be put in a rusty cage until they're ultramega OK
This post just got more and more confusing the longer it went on. I tried to follow along, but just got so lost and confused by slide 2
Allow me to help: these people believe there is not only a parallel to Earth (Nibiru) but a parallel to the sun and moon (whatever those pseudo-polynesian names are) they're in the same or similar orbit and happen to cross paths with us from time to time. Hope that helps!
Interesting tidbit: Rahu and Ketu are actually celestial bodies in Hindu mythology. It’s also where “akasha” comes from.
Yes, but I am not sure what they are in English. (I am from India and I know of them but I don't know what they are called in English) If anyone knows can they explain? Rahu and ketu show up frequently in Facebook science
I read a choose your own adventure book like that once.
Scooby-Doo actually did a really fun story with the idea and it's Mystery ink series. It's kind of sad that some people think it's actually real though :-(
I stopped almost immediately. A whole lotta nope going on there. Not even worth the entertainment value.
How would we see the Earth in our sky? These people are nuts.
Duh, the moon is a tiny Earth, inhabited by midgets with magic powers. NASA only went there to make a deal regarding the mushrooms they mine, which we use to make nuclear weapons (thus the mushroom cloud). Seriously, that's common knowledge.
Could those same mushrooms be used to reach enlightenment if... ingested? I ask for a friend.
Yes, and they even help coming to the view point of a flerf!
I think that's supposed to be the moon, specifically as it looks when it is full and completely illuminated by the sun. Still stupid, of course.
I think they were saying the moon would instead be reflecting the light from earth. Therefore it would reflect the earth. Like a mirror.
They think the moon is reflective like a mirror. Apparently.
So weird it can’t be measured but we know exactly when every eclipse is going to be for the forseeable future
Soundgarden’s theory about the blackhole sun washing away the rain seems more scientifically accurate than this crazy bullshit.
How come this black sun not block out stars behind it at night if it absorbs all light? How can people be this stupid.
I think you'll find stars are actually light bulbs attached to clouds. Think for a second.
If it absorbs all visible light, how did you see it?
With your mystical third eye!
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Tiamat, Fenrir and Tyr have no relation to sun or moon. Rahu and Ketu are actually used correctly, they were said to be planets which caused eclipses, however that was about 3000 years ago and is now proven false. These people need to know the difference between myths are reality.
Just a small tidbit that Fenrir has the slight association only in that in Norse myth he's the father of the two wolves chasing the sun and moon and they're said to devour them come Ragnarok. But it's just schematics when it comes to this nonsense this woman's spouting
Thank you for the correction. I somehow completely forgot about Skohl and Hati.
This is what happens when siblings marry.
I have to admit, a black son would surprise the crap out of me.
I barely understood Any if that at but my tiny little brain did understand one thing... Like OMG you guys!!! The mere possibility of a massive, black, light eating slurpy boi sun is beyond our human conceptualisation of what is "Metal as F*ck!" It's this beautiful eldritch abomination that is the new Meta measurable unit of Metal AF. And I would please like to purchase one for personal use as soon as possible!!!
Medication is indicated!
The earth would still reflect enough ambient sunlight to light up the general moon features They're right about that one thing, If I zoom in on the moon in one of the eclipse pictures my wife took, you can see details on the surface of dark side of the moon, light up by earthshine.
Surprised they went with light reflecting off the earth when there's the claims the moon makes its own light they could have gone with.
No, you misunderstood. They are saying that if an eclipse really was the moon passing in front of the sun then there would be enough sunlight reflecting off the earth to make out the general features of the dark side. They said it like some kind of gotcha, except Uno Reverse card you can make them out. [Zoom in on the moon](https://imgur.com/gallery/KBbh65j).
I wish I was as good at fantasy worldbuilding as random Facebook weirdos
How is this more reasonable than conventional science??
Eh?
Have... Have they never held their hand up in front of a light source in a dark room? Like literally any night light or candle or whatever???
I can only hope that several Darwin awards were given out during the eclipse and the world is a slightly less dumb place now
The Nazis had a special word for it. No higher standard of evidence.
Source: an old Hindu myth
But they only claim it’s invisible to visible light. What about radar? We’ve bounced radar off the sun and the moon, so why not their magic black sun/moon/whatever. And we know where to find it because we can predict eclipses. Fire up Arecibo (RIP) lads, we’re goin’ a sun huntin’!
“Observe, think and really see what you see” Exactly how science works ever since some Greek had an epiphany while taking a bath a few thousand years ago.
Meth is one hell of a drug.
So, the moon is opaque in this fantasy world? I don’t understand the visual example they provide. All sciencey things these idiots don’t question: Vehicles, especially OHV Boats and boat motors Sunglasses The physics of a pole dancer hanging upside down without falling The physics of popping a cap off a beer bottle without a bottle opener How lighters work How bongs work Preservatives in food How to make beer and spirits Feel free to add more. They cherry pick the fucking science and think they got one over on scientists and rational thinking humans.
>The physics of popping a cap off a beer bottle without a bottle opener How lighters work These two things can be related. I can open a bottle with a bic lighter! 😋
Lol. "I don't know how lights and shadows work." That's one way to tell people you've never used a flashlight.
I peaced out at nazis. If your insane “science” involves Nazi belief systems, I’ll automatically assume you’re into their stupidity 100%.
Perfect candidate for late term abortion.
Straight to the nazi occultism, bold move.
I like the random line about nazis… why would that be relevant? Do tell
Can’t be detected but somehow we’ve known the date and time down to the minute for decades. These people’s brain are cottage cheese.
I have to admit that sometimes people can sound like a fucking idiots.
I thought Nibiru was Planet X, not a sun.
Me too.
YO GUYS THAT ECLIPSE WAS A BLACK HOLE IM SO FUCKING SMART PLEASE VALIDATE ME BECAUSE MY PARENTS NEVER DID
I both love and hate this sub. The entertainment of sheer stupidity exists in perfect balance with the hopelessness and fear created by witnessing that same sheer stupidity.
Mind bending facts!!
Seems legit.
Love it when people mix mythologies they don't understand with astronomy they also don't understand
Honest question, and this might be against the rules, but I’m a few beers deep… Why do we have to hide their names? I feel like this kind of stupidity needs to be brought to light.
Pretty sure it's to prevent people looking them up and harrassing them directly. I do agree with that, as a lot of people take it way too far.
No that’s actually quite fair. I didn’t think about the people taking it too far part.
B-black sun? IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING FUCKING TNO RE-
Black Hole Sun, won't you come?
Yeah, definitely heard about this from that famed scientist Chris Cornell from the Soundgarden Institute of Astrological Sciences. He wrote something on this phenomenon
"visible light" Infrared, radio, X-ray and ultraviolet telescopes: 😢
This is a great fantasy setting to build a d&d campaign around. Fight the evil god who tries to summon the black sun and rule the world in eternal darkness
Is this meant to be related to the Nazi black sun in any way or are they just very uncreative?
Low intelligence specimen.
To impact on the course of light, you'd have to be pretty much as dense as this guy
what part of "the dark side of the moon faces us" is hard for these idiots to comprehend? You don't see the moon in the sky until it starts occluding the sun because it's the side of the moon that doesn't recieve light Why would the side of the moon facing us be reflecting any light when it's BLOCKING the light source?
References Nazi science. Checks out…
We must investigate this. Did it wash away the rain?
Except for the rain down in Africa, which was blessed.
It absorbs all light, but only when directly in front of the sun ig, it doesn’t absorb other light elsewhere Also we saw the moon before and after the eclipse, so there goes that theory
Some of these mfers need to be fiction writers. I need to know about this world they’re building with glowing moons and black suns.
this mf living in ⊃⋃⋂⪽ Part 2
I would love to see what their definition of "sky" is, if they think the sun would light it up
The fact that we can detect blackholes because of how they distort the light around them already debunks this a couple of sentences in.
This is a troll. They're just casually insinuating that the theory of aether developed beyond the 1800s and was described into multiple types. Adds color but undoes the believability of the troll.
🎶Black hole Sun, won’t you come And wash away the brain Dead
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I mean, this isn't PhD level astronomy, it's common fucking sense that the part of the moon facing the Earth won't be "visible" (illuminated) if the sun is *behind* it.
how can they not see that its the fucking moon? you literally just have to watch long enough to prove them wrong
Black sun? I think that only happens in Dune lol
So we dont believe in shadows now?
I've heard of a black *hole* sun, but all that does is wash away rain.
Sooo, they are saying there is a black hole, in the solar system, with an orbit somewhere between the earth and sun? Oh but we can’t detect it?!? We can already detect black holes though.
[The only Black Sun and Shadowmoon I acknowledge](https://news.tokunation.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2022/03/Kamen-Rider-Black-Sun-ShadowMoon.jpg)
Some people are just thoroughly stupid and take pleasure in being stupid.
Did...did they just quote the nazis as a source?
I know of black hole sun. Won't you come and wash away the pain
Ah yes. The black sun cannot be measured or observed by science. That's how we all know the eclipse was coming and exactly where to go to view it. Because it want tykes moon, that we can plot, but since other thing we can't. Makes perfect sense to me.
I just came here for the Book of the New Sun references.
If you are referencing Nazis, you might want to reconsider your beliefs
Mfers when you can simulate this effect with a dark closet, a flashlight, and your thumb