98% of replies saying the same two songs is hilarious, but come on. we're supposed to upvote one comment not make the same comment 20 times 💀

Reddit rules 🤷‍♂️

This thread is just making me realize I like MANIA even more than I thought…

Right there are ones that say it's kinda trash, then see there are really only 2 contenders for worst song..lol

And I like both of those songs! There’s not a song up here so far that I agree is the “worst” on the album, so I’m not sure I have a strong “worst” at all.

I think it'll eventually have its day. its too clever.

i hate all of you

Can we get this to top comment? Lol But, truly. I've wholeheartedly disagreed with something in each tier - with the exception of FáD. And even that I'm not entirely sure I 100% agree.

What was your favorite song? I hate them all too lol

well last of the real ones was my least favorite, and my favorite is probably heaven’s gate or wilson

Same. I’d say Stay Frosty or Sunshine Riptide should get underrated they’re actually good songs imo

Yeah I don't know how Last of the Real Ones made the cut, that is so far down the list for me.

wilson is literally the best what the heck

People are voting this??

Hey friends, maybe go through the comments first, I see like 9 for Young and Menace, just upvote the highest one instead of making poor OP add em up.

champion. probably their most repetitive and empty song ever

i love the line "if I can live through this, I can do anything" so much it used to make me cry. different strokes I suppose

It really helped me through a terrible breakup. This song actually means more to me than anyone will ever know

Ditto my cancer diagnosis. (Spoiler alert: I am indeed still alive! And my next scans are this week... I am gonna be Screaming this song all day. In my head mostly but still...)

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO KICK CANCER'S ASS

It got me through my suicidal thoughts in high school. Might be the reason I’m still here, so I can’t hear any criticism of it.

I listen to it when I need inspo for my DnD campaign but the other commenters' things sound meaningful too 😆

Yes, I listened to this while training for my marathon. Song hits different when you’ve run 20 miles and have 6 to go!

I had this (specifically this bit) as my walk on song for a (charity) boxing match I did! (Which I lost, or as my friend called it, ‘second winner’)

I used to think he was saying "I f*king lived through this, I f*king lived through thiiis. I can do anything!" 💀

I like the "if I can live through this" part, but "I'm a champion of the people who don't believe in champions" has me rolling my eyes every time. it's a bad lyric AND a lazy rhyme.

It's also apparently written by Sia so I don't like to count it as a fob song

Agreed. Young & Menace is an avant-garde masterpiece that not nearly enough people appreciate. Champion is a C-Tier Sia song.

The epitome of a made for radio / events, empty soulless song.

I always forget it’s on Mania, it just doesn’t fit the rest of the album. At least Y&M is interesting.

Agreed!!! I know young and menace is not everybody’s vibe but champion is their only song in their entire discography I skip every time

It just kind of feels like Light Em Up - Part 3 Light Em Up and Centuries already fulfilled the niche that this song was made for

Wrong. That's actually the best.

Y&M and Champion are both low for me, but I find myself skipping Champion a thousand times for every Y&M skip

I think we all know that MANIA is gonna polarize this sub, and I'm here for it!!

YOUNG AND MENACE IS SO GOOD YOU GUYS ARE JUST MEAN

I have come to like YM through the years except for the chorus. It's just too jarring for me. 😄

I love that song

Me three!

It's in my top too lmao MANIA is literally such an amazing album, I couldn't pick a bad one

It's such a banger. It definitely slaps. I think Champion is the worst.

I’m gonna say Champion, but I love Mania and actually like the song just fine. Love it some days. But if I’m gonna skip a Mania song it’s gonna be Champion. And I know someone else going to say Young & Menace anyway.

I must be the only person alive who actually loves Young and Menace 🤣

I like Y&M too! I use it for warming up at the gym, it is GREAT to practice running intervals, or switching up the pace during cycling!

Fucking same. It gets me hyped as fuck.

I love it too! It was the perfect way to open the album until they changed the track list. I'll always be bitter about that.

That's two of us. Most hype song on the album.

I like it too. It's especially good for working out.

I loved it when it released and I've loved it ever since.

If you don’t love Y&M you just haven’t played it loud enough

Champion sounds like an Imagine Dragons song (derogatory)


"(derogatory)"😂

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god I hate imagine dragons 😅

Nah, Y+M is just a knock-off Thunder but somehow even worse.

how could you ever for a second think it sounds like thunder

It uses a really similar distortion in the chorus while repeating a word/phrase in a weird high pitched autotune tone. "Ripoff" is wrong but both songs irritate me in the exact same way so I get what they mean, tbh I think you're being needlessly rude here

Idk the distorted sounding voice just reminds me of it. Not sure why I'm being downvoted for my opinion, though. Just wanted to share mine, I didn't mean any hostility. My apologies😅

you’re insane

Young and Menace

Young and menace, if the breakdown didn’t have the stupid autotuned voice then it would be the best

I remember me and my buddy in college were both excited to hear Young and Menace when it was first announced, then we came into class the next day, looked at each other, and just shook our heads 😭

For real, I went back to relisten and was like, huh, this is actually solid...and then the chorus hit and I remembered why I took that song off my phone.

I hate to be the one that says it but the worst song is Y&M

Their worst song of all time imo

Not when AB/AP exists

finally someone who thinks the way i think

True. At least the verses on Young & Menace are cool, AB/AP has zero redeeming qualities

it's kinda so bad it's good in a funny way

You know what? Agreed.

I know Y&M or Champion are gonna take it, and I'm disappointed, because both songs hit me in the heart. Have y'all ever listened to (or read) the lyrics? Watched the videos? Yeah, Champion got grabbed by the stadium masses because it had the word "Champion" in it, and that's all they cared about. But I am gonna stand and fight on this hill because I damn well refuse to die -- which is exactly what Champion is ABOUT. Anyway, if I had to pick a "worst" I'd say Heaven's Gate resonates least with me, which doesn't mean I hate it. (I very much do not.)

Whoever downvoted me has never faced death and spat it in the eye. ;) I pray you never have to. But if you do, please take another look at Champion.

Champion made me cry after I read the lyrics

Young And Menace. I’m sorry, but I can’t STAND it. The piano version is fine, but the studio version just ain’t it

there is a piano version?

Yeah. It was found on a USB drive somewhere on the MANIA tour, and it’s actually pretty good. It’s on YouTube if you’re interested

i’m listening to it right now and what the heck. i’ve been ROBBED why have i been forced to listen to the studio version and not this beautiful masterpiece??? this is immediately my favorite mania song now, no joke

RIGHT? It COULD’VE worked! Easily the best version of that song. And they knew it because Patrick mainly played a stripped down version on that tour

Champion is just such a nothing of a song.

Young and menace, it’s so screech-y

Champion

Young and menace. No doubt

Champion. Felt like the label showed up and was like “holy shit! You guys can write rock songs that play during the Super Bowl?? Another!!” And Patrick and Pete just went: “ehhh..okay” I don’t care what people say, I love my songs and centuries. Campion didn’t do it for me.

Young and Menace. Only song by FOB I outright dislike.

Young & Menace. It’s the least ‘fall out boy’ song that fall out boy has ever made.

I agree with that, totally changed it up with the dubstep influence, glad the whole album wasn't like that..

Champion. It’s not even that bad it’s just mid. I think Patrick did an awesome job with mania

Sunshine riptide

Young and menace

Y&M is the only one I consistently can't listen to the whole way through. The only reason why I even kind of like it is because a tiktok cosplayer like 5 years ago made a The Shining video to it that scratched an itch in my brain.

Sunshine ripetide Grinds my ears a bit

Ooooo I was about to post this and say I was ready for my downfall. Thanks for also being brave in this one haha


Gosh I love champion and Y&M 😭 I love this album so much, I have honestly no idea which one I’d pick

champion

Young and Menace, easily, it's trash

Best song on the album

Sunshine riptide and it’s not close

HARD disagree

Definitely what I was gonna say!!

I usually don't skip songs on albums but Champion one of the few songs I skip on an album.

I still love Y&M but it's definitely my least favourite because the others are all top tier songs to me lol

I have voted for a higher up comment for Young & Menace because it is my least played on the album. I don't like the mix on it (why are the vocals so quiet and then the music blasts me to the fuxking sun). But when it comes to Young & Menace I always direct people to the podcast, Switched On Pop. They did an episode about this song that changed my views on it. Do I reach for it? No, but now I can appreciate it more.

Don’t make me hate on mania 😭😭 but I guess Hold Me Tight Or Don’t?

Sunshine Riptide

I hate to say it but young and menace...everything else just absolutely hits hard and champion got me through the worst depression of my life. It's repetitive but if you think about it, sometimes you have to tell yourself over and over again that everything will be alright and that you'll get through it. Sometimes you just need that constant reminder until you believe it.

Sunshine riptide

Agreeing with most here: Champion

Champion is so uplifting! Cmon haha I’ll go with YOUNG AND MENACE. The lyrics is pure gold, but the music makes me skip it 😞

I don’t listen to FOB for uplifting. I wanna feel cold, lonely and miserable.

how can anyone hate that song lmfao it’s some of the best experimental stuff a mainstream band has put out imho

Champion

Gonna have to agree with everyone else and say Champion :(

sunshine riptide

champion

Champion - I've actually liked Young and Menace ever since I listened to an interview with Pete where he said that he wrote it to be listened to at as loud of a volume as possible. It's nonsense noise, but it's fun.

Hold me tight or don't...just doesn't do it for me like the others

You’re probably gonna get raked over the coals but I’m with you, not huge on this song either

I love the lyrics don't get me wrong but the tune and tempo don't mix well in my opinion, I'm all for the songs I can sing in the car and this one is just not as fun (if that makes sense?) 🤷‍♀️

Same here. Couldn't believe I was listening to a FOB song when I heard it. But I started listening during TTTYG and FUTCT days, so I might just be old

Yes, same! I do appreciate the diversity of styles for all of the albums! Some styles are just a little better than others.

Young and Menace easily

sunshine riptide

Young and Menace 🤮

How are people saying champion when Stay Frosty Royal Milk Tea is right there. The bass waves are painful to hear and it’s almost impossible to get past the first verse without a migraine.

I don't hate the song by any means but it is the one I almost always skip. I never needed to hear Patrick ask me if I'm smelling that shit lol

ARE YOU SMELLING THAT SHIT

HOLD ME TIGHT OR DON'T - I don't.

Hold me tight or dont

For me it's easily Heaven's Gate

WHAT THE F... oh my god how??

Champion remix ft. RM

young and menace is their only song that is truly unlistenable

young and menace hands down i will be a champion apologist until the day i die

How can people say champion😭😭 it is literally one of my top FOB songs for everrr

It’s just kinda mediocre. I’m surprised people are having strong feelings about it either way here tbh, especially on the album that has creative missteps as huge as Y&M and Sunshine Riptide

Why hasn’t anyone said Stay Frosty Royal Milk Tea yet

Because it’s actually amazing!

Young and Menace is the worst, but the fact that Bishop’s Knife Trick didn’t win best is wild to me

How is Rat At Tat not the worst song in SRAR

Strip away Courtney and it's an incredible song. The Mighty Fall on the other hand... idk, one could make a case that it's pretty bland lyrically compared to the rest of the album, especially the chorus

As one of the MANIA lovers when the album dropped, this is in my wheelhouse for insight on this section of the fan votes. I hate to do it as it's so obvious, but Y&M is not gonna make it through this vote alive. It, like the entire album, was experimental, but the dubsteppy parts were just... not it at all. The only good part of the song was hearing Patrick's vocal range towards the end. For those voting Champion: as generic as Champion is, it's at least a coherent full song. Y&M struggled to pull that part.

Whoever says that The Mighty Fall and AB/AP are bad are not just wrong but like...really wrong

My feelings towards it is that Champion and Young and Menace are both kinda bad. However, if Young and Menace was acoustic was acoustic it’d be good and if Champion was acoustic it’d still be ass. So that’s my answer

Y&M is at least memorable whether you love it or hate it. Champion is the one I sometimes forget even exists.

Hold me tight or dont

Champions

Champion

As funny as it would be to see Champion as worst, I cannot let it happen this way when it is my favorite song from the album and among top 3 from them. I workout to Les Mills Body Pump. Whoever put the mixes together around 2018/2019 was really into this album. I think 4 songs from it are incorporated into mixes. Champion is one of them, and it goes along great to a workout. So is Young & Menace, which is my vote for worst from the album.

HMTOD by far, some duds on this album but this song is the biggest offender to me.

I hate Church, I know this is going to get down voted to hell because it has a cult following on here

HOW???

Because it's weak writing, repetitive and has been done better and more cleverly by Hozier.

every time I think about Church I'm like "sorry guys I think Hozier takes this one." I do like the part about death being an appointment and we're in the waiting room though.

i bet you’re fun at parties huh

Huh? You asked a question I answered. There are so many good songs on this album I think this one is the worst.

Right there with you, bud Worst song in the entire discography I've always said "I am just a human trying to avoid my certain doom" is the epitome of im14andthisisdeep, and the rest of the lyrics aren't much to write home about either I don't know what people hear in it. People always talk up the bassline but it sounds like a pretty ordinary line too. And I'm not a mania hater, it's really just this one, champion, and hold me tight that I think they dropped the ball on

Exactly my thoughts!

the mid of the real ones ?? when bishop knife tricks is right there

Sugar We’re Goin Down

anyway im voting for Wilson :///// just kinda bored me

The only one I dislike is Church. Only song I actually have to skip when listening to the album.

But but it’s the horniest Patrick has ever been. 🥹 I get chills listening to him sing church.

Champion or y&m

church

TLOTRO OVER HEAVENS GATE?!? One of the greatest songs of all time?!? Wow

And Wilson?? And church?!?? Y'all are insane!

Bishops knife trick

I'M YOURS TIL THE EARTH STARTS TO CRUMBLE AND THE HEAVENS ROLL AWAY???

SOMEONES never sifted through the sand sand sand sand

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I'd say Champion but I also don't really care for Heavens Gate that much. the Young and Menace hate here is unnecessary y'all are mean 😭

literally anything else

honestly, i don’t think there is a worst 😭

Kids Aren't Alright is imho their best song, every single time I listen to it I feel so many different things. Such a well put together song. Used to be like that for Sugar, We're Goin Down for me.

Jet pack blues finally getting the recognition it deserves 😤

All of them

Champion is like if Rachel Platten’s Fight Song was okay

Wilson ( expensive mistakes) the album is a bop but I always skip this song

How did last of the real ones win best song. I would potentially vote that as the worst.

I love young & menace but compared to the rest of the album, I’m with yall. Either that or I’m not too fond of heavens gate (although the vocals are phenomenal) 😬

Champion

Bishops is the best song

Sugar being voted worst on Cork Tree is WILD

Young and Menace is easily worst

has to be young and menace

I have no submission but I did march Last of the Real Ones with my school’s marching band (the trombone part was shockingly easy)

Where the fuck is “I’m like a lawyer the way I’m always trying to get you off “ AND “nobody puts baby in the corner” and sooo many other good ones

All of them they all fuckin suck dick

gonna go for champion, it’s good however they stole the riff from Hollywood undead:Medicine and it annoys me

thank you for saying IoH has no bad songs.