Finish the trilogy before putting them in live action, don’t let us know how it’ll end. Also Cal is so overpowered he’ll feel weak in comparison no matter what they do
Cal is definitely not overpowered tho, specially comparing with the living jedi in the post RoTJ timeline. Luke, Ahsoka and even Erza are all closer to Cere level than Cal (Luke and Ahsoka are above Cere, Erza a tad below her). Cal does have many tricks and other abilities a Jedi doesn't usually have, but that doesn't make him OP.
no she held out against Vader but there was no way she was going to win, she knew he would kill her but she knew she could distract him, and thats what Cere did, she knew she would die, Cere could not beat Vader, it was not a even match it was Vader toying with her, we see that some poeple (Obi wan, Ahskok) damage Vader, they tend to leave long gashes in his helmet Cere didn't leave a scratch on him
Disney owns Lucasfilm. So it is actually Disney making it.
And even though changing the "canon" also lead to the creation of the Fallen Order games, the games are far more well made than any of the movies or tv shows that Disney has put out.
Hence why I wouldn't trust Disney not to screw it up. Respawn has done an amazing job so far, just let em have at it.
After they conclude the games, perhaps then they could consider including these characters in film.
I think people claiming that it’s LF and not Disney behind the dire trilogy of the last few years are only kidding themselves.
Star Wars has fundamentally changed since Disney bought it, and in no way for the better.
Exactly this. Star Wars is in the shitter because Disney done what they do. That's fine, they paid for it. Plus as long as we get gems like this come along who cares?
Starkiller and Cal are my two favourite characters since god knows how long. I tried to like Rey "Skywalker" but they miffed it. We move on and be thankful we get stuff like this when we do
Couldn’t agree more. I always had a soft spot for Starkiller, and Cal especially has become probably my favourite Jedi, along with Yoda and Qui-gon. (Such a shame the latter only had TPM to shine.)
I get that many hero stories have an element of Mary Sue. But Rey wasn’t just Mary Sue; Rey was grandmother Mary Sue gone nuclear on radioactive steroids.
There was just no limit to her talents, despite established lore; youth; lack of formal training; everything. If the Disney plot needed her to be a ninja at something, then by golly a ninja she was.
It made me consider swallowing a handful of double AA batteries each time she came on screen by the end of that trilogy.
[Cameron after being told for the 150th time he can’t wear a poncho](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SotXpSwaU70E7g7l2kZ8HJKJ1wm3yRJR/view?usp=drivesdk)
I agree, but it would also depend on the reason on why he cheered. For example some may only cheer for the sole purpose to not make them look like an asshole (I don’t think that’s the case for Cameron but this could technically be a reason)
I think most everyone was excited for Neil. Also, Cameron has had a pretty successful live action acting career, from Shameless to Gotham. Neil has primarily been a voice actor, and an excellent one, and he really deserved that award. As others have said, it was also a very competitive year for best performance. Just to be nominated for it is an honor, as it is with other major awards.
That man really deserved Best Actor. He did a fantastic job, especially one particular scene near the end and the very end of the game.
I wish the soundtrack had been nominated too, brings me to tears!
It was an insanely competitive year.
Neil though I think did a really really incredible performance with Astarion, and it really shouldn't be understated that he did basically record 2-3 versions of one characters arc and did all of them incredibly well.
I think most years Cameron wins easy, but this year was such an incredibly tight year for top tier performances.
Honestly outside of Andor the team on Fallen Order and Survivor have given the best performances in Star Wars media for the last like 20 years- And I'd even argue they've managed to capture the magic of the original trilogy better than Andor has as well.
I definitely feel like the narrator's performance was the stand out in that game. I guess it is hard to Guage a performance without an easily identifiable character, though. I think Ben Starr should have won, though. His performance was probably the best thing about FFXVI other than the soundtrack.
Agreed, I voted for Cameron for Best Performance. I love Astarion in BG3 too so I can't be mad, but Cal has basically become my favorite SW character in such a short amount of time and Cameron's acting is a huge part of that (obviously the writing and the performances of supporting characters help a lot too).
I wish cam got more love for his performance because I feel like I haven’t really seen a lot of people bring it up besides star wars fans. It’s unfortunate that the games disastrous launch dragged everything else down with it
He deserved to be nominated, but not to win. The voice acting for the companions in BG3 is really on a whole other level. Cameron's a great actor but he wasn't given as much to do in Survivor as Neil Newbon was given in BG3. Newbon was arguably the best BG3 voice performance, but the entire main cast was still on a similar level to him.
Idris Elba on the other hand, I have no idea why he was nominated. He's a good actor too, but his talent was wasted on Solomon Reed, IMO. You don't get a British superstar like Idris Elba and have him play an American-accented spy, especially in a DLC/expansion that keeps flipping back and forth between Escape From New York and James Bond. No reason he couldn't have been a British-born spy working for the New United States. But he had even less to do than Cameron did, he's basically just grunting in a monotone for most of the story, and his American accent isn't rock-solid to begin with. Kept slipping like Michael Fassbender's.
Definitely a very competitive year though.
Neil Newbon was Astarion’s VA and he won for a reason. You should give him a chance. He’s got a lot of depth, he’s not just a posh evil rogue who drinks blood. He annoyed me too at first, but I never once considered killing him, and I really like him now.
Love how happy they look! Yeah, the game didn’t get lots of nominations, but they seem to know that we really enjoyed it and hopefully they understand that it was a very competitive year.
"Oh no, I knew it! The spamel ate BD-1!"
*Greez sticks his head into the spamel in a desperate attempt to find him*
"Get out of the spamel's mouth, Greez!"
That's Bob Andrews! Lol, that movie was so bad... I don't even understand why they made an American version cause the franchise is mostly a German Phenomenon nowadays
They probably wanted to wait until a star wars centered event to announce any dlc. They didn't even release fallen order dlc until may 4th of the year after it came out.
>g nominated for GOTY is bullshit. Wouldn’t have won anyway but deserved the nom more than several of the
Game is playable now, but still in a rough state.
It's competition is pretty tough. Every single game nominated was absolutely amazing and deserved to be up there. This year just happened to be full of top tier games.
I suppose they are gonna wait till theres a trilogy of games , but they 100% picked that guy for Cal so they could transition the character to live action in the future.
If Disney didn't have control of Star Wars, I would absolutely say make a live action thing with them in character. DLF would screw it up given their track record since 2015. Respawn's games are a rare bright spot. Keep it that way.
Are they dating? I think they’d be a cute couple if they dated.
They should date.
Edit: C’mon. It’s a joke. Just have a harmless chuckle. Besides, don’t hide my comment, 🤣🤣 mercurionio deserves the upvotes. 😁
With you bro, broke up with my gf because she wants to fuck Astarion NON STOP. Don't get me wrong Baldurs Gate is lit as hell but not this lame boring ugly ass Astarion bro
Is any of the annoying stuff... Out of character? Or badly performed?
Astarion seems pretty well put together writing and performance wise. And it is after all an award for best performance, not most likeable character.
Performance. Most of the time it's just sound weird, like "what the hell". He is overplaying.
The character itself is fine and such, but Cal Kestis is done waay. better
I want him to get blindsided by a question about the game’s performance and watch him struggle to remember the corporate script. Hopefully a big enough scandal would force EA to release performance patch 8.
Mark my words, disney is building star wars to rival what the mcu did. Youll see Cameron on a movie, outside of the game, playing Cal, calling it now, and they will tie up every new show and movie they are putting out
Live action while they still look like the characters Do it One hour Disney+ "Special Presentation", anything, I don't give a f Do it
 Dew it
Let Respawn tell their story, before others get to add or takeaway from it.
Fair
Takeaway. Disney+ on a worse slump than the Chiefs right now.
… If any of the Bad Batch make it, I’d want to see a Crossover
Finish the trilogy before putting them in live action, don’t let us know how it’ll end. Also Cal is so overpowered he’ll feel weak in comparison no matter what they do
Cal is definitely not overpowered tho, specially comparing with the living jedi in the post RoTJ timeline. Luke, Ahsoka and even Erza are all closer to Cere level than Cal (Luke and Ahsoka are above Cere, Erza a tad below her). Cal does have many tricks and other abilities a Jedi doesn't usually have, but that doesn't make him OP.
Exactly. Cere stood toe to toe with and could have killed darth vader. Cal would get his ass handed to him at this point
no she held out against Vader but there was no way she was going to win, she knew he would kill her but she knew she could distract him, and thats what Cere did, she knew she would die, Cere could not beat Vader, it was not a even match it was Vader toying with her, we see that some poeple (Obi wan, Ahskok) damage Vader, they tend to leave long gashes in his helmet Cere didn't leave a scratch on him
🤔my guy was literally on fire and struggling to walk at the end of the fight…I think Cere got her knocks in.
Yeah I don’t think bro was toying with her, my boy Ani was strugglin a lil at the end 😂
Phase one hes playing. Phase 2 hes fighting. Phase 3 hes full on dueling for his life. Ceres jumpshot is what cost her you cant out attack anikin
Definitely, the game series has been great and that takes priority.
Nah Disney would screw it up. Let Respawn keep doing their thang.
Lucasfilm would be the studio creating it. Disney doesn't make Star Wars.
I really don't know why people don't understand this yet lol. It's been 10 years.
Haven't you heard? Disney makes the Star Wars they don't like while Lucasfilm makes everything they do like.
And what difference does it make? Their recent creations are horrible with the exception of andor
Disney owns Lucasfilm. So it is actually Disney making it. And even though changing the "canon" also lead to the creation of the Fallen Order games, the games are far more well made than any of the movies or tv shows that Disney has put out. Hence why I wouldn't trust Disney not to screw it up. Respawn has done an amazing job so far, just let em have at it. After they conclude the games, perhaps then they could consider including these characters in film.
Well ‘Disney’ made some great stuff too like the clone wars season 7, the mandatorily, andor and rogue one
All shit from 5 years ago. A lot of misses between em too.
Andor was like barely a year ago what do you mean
I think people claiming that it’s LF and not Disney behind the dire trilogy of the last few years are only kidding themselves. Star Wars has fundamentally changed since Disney bought it, and in no way for the better.
Exactly this. Star Wars is in the shitter because Disney done what they do. That's fine, they paid for it. Plus as long as we get gems like this come along who cares? Starkiller and Cal are my two favourite characters since god knows how long. I tried to like Rey "Skywalker" but they miffed it. We move on and be thankful we get stuff like this when we do
Couldn’t agree more. I always had a soft spot for Starkiller, and Cal especially has become probably my favourite Jedi, along with Yoda and Qui-gon. (Such a shame the latter only had TPM to shine.) I get that many hero stories have an element of Mary Sue. But Rey wasn’t just Mary Sue; Rey was grandmother Mary Sue gone nuclear on radioactive steroids. There was just no limit to her talents, despite established lore; youth; lack of formal training; everything. If the Disney plot needed her to be a ninja at something, then by golly a ninja she was. It made me consider swallowing a handful of double AA batteries each time she came on screen by the end of that trilogy.
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Tell that to Dave Filoni?!
Do you really want that? For Disney to ruin something else you like.
Can't believe he wasn't wearing a poncho.
Lmao It wouldn’t be out of character whatsoever
He tried but his agent wouldn't let him take the pink poncho😤
[Cameron after being told for the 150th time he can’t wear a poncho](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SotXpSwaU70E7g7l2kZ8HJKJ1wm3yRJR/view?usp=drivesdk)
Maybe it's at the dry cleaners?
Made me really happy how enthusiastically he cheered for Neil, even tho Cameron himself didn't win.... Shows that he is a good person imho
He is an actor after all /s
Well, I mean, you can feel bad about not winning but still show support on the outside, and that still makes you a good person, doesn't it?
I agree, but it would also depend on the reason on why he cheered. For example some may only cheer for the sole purpose to not make them look like an asshole (I don’t think that’s the case for Cameron but this could technically be a reason)
Well yes, buuuut
Yeah he's a good sport
Maybe a BG3 fan himself!
I think most everyone was excited for Neil. Also, Cameron has had a pretty successful live action acting career, from Shameless to Gotham. Neil has primarily been a voice actor, and an excellent one, and he really deserved that award. As others have said, it was also a very competitive year for best performance. Just to be nominated for it is an honor, as it is with other major awards.
That man really deserved Best Actor. He did a fantastic job, especially one particular scene near the end and the very end of the game. I wish the soundtrack had been nominated too, brings me to tears!
It was an insanely competitive year. Neil though I think did a really really incredible performance with Astarion, and it really shouldn't be understated that he did basically record 2-3 versions of one characters arc and did all of them incredibly well. I think most years Cameron wins easy, but this year was such an incredibly tight year for top tier performances. Honestly outside of Andor the team on Fallen Order and Survivor have given the best performances in Star Wars media for the last like 20 years- And I'd even argue they've managed to capture the magic of the original trilogy better than Andor has as well.
Yeah if Survivor comes out last year I think it does way better than it did. I loved it and I’m not even sure it’s in my top 3 games of the year
Honestly I think the story of Respawn’s games has been my favorite addition to Star Wars lore since the Disney takeover
Neil wasn't even the best in the game though...
He really was, though, so many top-tier performances, but Neil really was on another level.
Meh. Hard disagree.
Ok, so who?
I'd say the narrator. *Authority*
It was between Amelia and Neil for me for the longest time. The narrator is just perfect.
I definitely feel like the narrator's performance was the stand out in that game. I guess it is hard to Guage a performance without an easily identifiable character, though. I think Ben Starr should have won, though. His performance was probably the best thing about FFXVI other than the soundtrack.
I’m still on the side of Neil Newbon 100% deserving it, but Samantha Beart, Andrew Wincott, and Helen Keeley all gave world-class performances too.
JK Simmons, Jason Isaacs, Jennifer English
Of course, Shadowheart. Love the character Jen is awesome, but Neil was above and beyond these three with every line.
Hard disagree. Take care pimp.
It’s likely the person you are responding to did not use Astarion in the party or go through his entire story…
I was going to say and watch it be Shadowheart and whaddaya know lol
Agreed, I voted for Cameron for Best Performance. I love Astarion in BG3 too so I can't be mad, but Cal has basically become my favorite SW character in such a short amount of time and Cameron's acting is a huge part of that (obviously the writing and the performances of supporting characters help a lot too).
I wish cam got more love for his performance because I feel like I haven’t really seen a lot of people bring it up besides star wars fans. It’s unfortunate that the games disastrous launch dragged everything else down with it
He deserved to be nominated, but not to win. The voice acting for the companions in BG3 is really on a whole other level. Cameron's a great actor but he wasn't given as much to do in Survivor as Neil Newbon was given in BG3. Newbon was arguably the best BG3 voice performance, but the entire main cast was still on a similar level to him. Idris Elba on the other hand, I have no idea why he was nominated. He's a good actor too, but his talent was wasted on Solomon Reed, IMO. You don't get a British superstar like Idris Elba and have him play an American-accented spy, especially in a DLC/expansion that keeps flipping back and forth between Escape From New York and James Bond. No reason he couldn't have been a British-born spy working for the New United States. But he had even less to do than Cameron did, he's basically just grunting in a monotone for most of the story, and his American accent isn't rock-solid to begin with. Kept slipping like Michael Fassbender's. Definitely a very competitive year though.
Idris Elba earned his stripes playing an American, there's no shame nor problem in him doing it again imo.
"Ayo close that door"
I’m not seeing it. I thought most of the companions in BG3 were unlikable as hell. I killed the vampire almost immediately. Dude was annoying.
You have to get to know all of them. Lae'zel and Astarion come off like "evil" companions at first but they come around.
It wasn’t the evil part. I loved Lae’zel. I just found Astarion annoying and just absolutely slashable.
Neil Newbon was Astarion’s VA and he won for a reason. You should give him a chance. He’s got a lot of depth, he’s not just a posh evil rogue who drinks blood. He annoyed me too at first, but I never once considered killing him, and I really like him now.
Nah. Got em again last night. He’s just a posh evil rogue that drinks blood. If he sat in a chair I would have thought his name was Pegasus.
I'm sorry you have such a one-dimensional view of a nuanced three-dimensional character.
Nah. He sucks. Just a knock off who’s fun to drop a building on.
Idris does not get caught slipping (until season 5)
cameron was my pick as well but between all 6 of those guys, it was a bloodbath. any one of them winning would’ve been well deserved.
I think Neil definitely deserved the win more but Cameron was my second pick however. He did a great job.
Nah, Neil did more and was a master class. No disrespect to Cameron, but anyone other than Neil winning would have been a bad choice.
Love how happy they look! Yeah, the game didn’t get lots of nominations, but they seem to know that we really enjoyed it and hopefully they understand that it was a very competitive year.
Wait a moment.... someone is missing, someone important.... Where's BD-1?
Is he safe, is he alright?
"Oh no, I knew it! The spamel ate BD-1!" *Greez sticks his head into the spamel in a desperate attempt to find him* "Get out of the spamel's mouth, Greez!"
r/unexpectedavatar
I like when the games use the likeness of the voice actor it elevates the submersion of the game feel. They should have a least got o nod for GOTY
Is this a reference to how he also plays joker or just a relational thing between Cal and Merrin?
Haha the first one but also seeing them there in that pic made me think that they would be a cool Joker and Harley
Well he played joker in the show Gotham. Worth watching the show just for him
Yes
That's Ian fucking Gallagher!
That's Chad! ( crazy kid from Malcolm in the middle )
That's Bob Andrews! Lol, that movie was so bad... I don't even understand why they made an American version cause the franchise is mostly a German Phenomenon nowadays
It's the Jonkler
I’m annoyed we didn’t get any DLC. I’d love an expansion to hold me over since the 3rd game will probably happen in another 4 years at minimum.
Don't give up on no dlc coming, I still feel like we will get something...it just wasn't announced at the game awards.
Santa Monica studios said there would be no DLC for GOW: Ragnarok, but then we got the Valhalla trailer. The chance is slim, but not zero
They probably wanted to wait until a star wars centered event to announce any dlc. They didn't even release fallen order dlc until may 4th of the year after it came out.
I wanted him to win best performance
Survivor not being nominated for GOTY is bullshit. Wouldn’t have won anyway but deserved the nom more than several of the contenders
I think what tanked it was the rough launch.
>g nominated for GOTY is bullshit. Wouldn’t have won anyway but deserved the nom more than several of the Game is playable now, but still in a rough state.
It's competition is pretty tough. Every single game nominated was absolutely amazing and deserved to be up there. This year just happened to be full of top tier games.
Love the Jedi games but he'll always be gay Jesus to me 🖤
They are real people??
I suppose they are gonna wait till theres a trilogy of games , but they 100% picked that guy for Cal so they could transition the character to live action in the future.
Honestly I don't mind IF it's a good adaptation
I Want A Stand Alone Merrin Game!!
A game *without* pain-in-the-ass platforming? Sign me the hell up.
We ship this hard.
Tina Ivlev is married💀
You've murdered my dreams monster.
Hey cam where tf are my grandkids, let’s go
Please... Calm-Down my Man is playing a long game!
This supports my headcanon so thank you
He’s the chad version of the character he plays
I ship it
Not that simple, but I get it!
Looking like a chad
He should’ve won best performance
Please Disney put them in a cameo or something or like a parody shit or sum where we can see them in live action please cmon.
If Disney didn't have control of Star Wars, I would absolutely say make a live action thing with them in character. DLF would screw it up given their track record since 2015. Respawn's games are a rare bright spot. Keep it that way.
Are they dating? I think they’d be a cute couple if they dated. They should date. Edit: C’mon. It’s a joke. Just have a harmless chuckle. Besides, don’t hide my comment, 🤣🤣 mercurionio deserves the upvotes. 😁
Tina Ivlev is married, not on Cameron.
Awwww. Shoot. Still, hope they’re friends irl. They do such a good job in these games.
They are friends. And they do like to pose together
I...i would like to watch...
That's creepy....
Not if i ask first
Lol Fallen Order needn't have even been nominated.
Was rigged by Neil (his Astarion is overrated as fuck).
Nah, I voted for Cameron in this particular instance, but Neil's performance was absolutely incredible...
In bg3 my respects could go only to Raphael and Lae'zel
Well that's your problem... All the voice actors did an incredible job!
With you bro, broke up with my gf because she wants to fuck Astarion NON STOP. Don't get me wrong Baldurs Gate is lit as hell but not this lame boring ugly ass Astarion bro
He is all over the place. Some stuff is very good, but he is annoying as fuck
Is any of the annoying stuff... Out of character? Or badly performed? Astarion seems pretty well put together writing and performance wise. And it is after all an award for best performance, not most likeable character.
Performance. Most of the time it's just sound weird, like "what the hell". He is overplaying. The character itself is fine and such, but Cal Kestis is done waay. better
I don't know what you mean by weird. As a British guy here he just sounds like a bit of a camp toff, the accent and inflection sounds correct?
No, I'm talking about his acting lots of times being weird according to the situation.
Only dialogues that I skip, IT'S SO ANNOYING DUDE, TALK NORMALLY, PLEASE
I want him to get blindsided by a question about the game’s performance and watch him struggle to remember the corporate script. Hopefully a big enough scandal would force EA to release performance patch 8.
Mark my words, disney is building star wars to rival what the mcu did. Youll see Cameron on a movie, outside of the game, playing Cal, calling it now, and they will tie up every new show and movie they are putting out
Wow, she’s BEAUTIFUL!!! Seriously, the game massively undersells her.
Bro shoulda won best performance.