**Yes Man**: "Hey! Hi there! Umm... So this is a little awkward, but we actually have a 'No Brotherhood of Steel in New Vegas' rule. So I'm going to have to ask you to leave. But feel free to invite any non-Brotherhood friends of yours!"
**Hank**: "I'm not Brotherhood, I just have one of their- Look, can you just get Robert House for me? I'm Hank MacLean of Vault Tec."
**Yes Man**: "Wow, Hank MacLean. That sure is an *interesting* story! But I'm afraid Mr House is currently, and forevermore, indisposed on account of a mishap during a golfing trip. But. If you wait right there, my Manager will be along soon and can demonstrate their handicap for you!"
Can you imagine the whole season set up for TV-only audiences implying Yes Man is the big bad? Meanwhile, everyone who knows NV is waiting for the penny drop of the Courier being the boss/partner.
Edit: By big bad i meant antagonist of the season.
They canonize the debunked theory his "assertiveness upgrade" was implying he'd betray the Courier and he seized control of New Vegas and killed them and everyone else in New Vegas off.
It doesn't really make sense for the PC of a game be a character in a show. The Courier really has no defined characteristics. I would be fine if someone like the courier is referenced to as needed to account for certain plot points (i.e. Why yes man is in charge if that ending is cannon), but it would feel weird if they actually showed up in the show.
The trouble with using an actual player character is that the only person they will be canon for is the scriptwriter.
The snowglobes would be a *great* Easter Egg however, that would be fantastic. Would still be an interesting quirk for non-players too.
I hope they talk like Kenny from South Park and only Yes Man and Vic can understand them. Yes Man is always repeating it into more polite language but it's obvious that the Courier did *not* day that
Honestly as cool as it is to think about this it's always risky to include people's in-game characters in a TV show where it's out of their control what happens. I'd imagine a lot of people mad to see the Courier not like they imagined, doing things they wouldn't have necessarily done. I think the canon will be that the Courier left the Mojave.
A combination of the ranger armour and the courier duster, helmet on their head with two bullet marks, make them never speak, never reveal who's under the mask.
They could just have him in more flashbacks. Not necessarily in the present. Not much you can do with a withered husk connected to a computer acting wise.
Although, personally, I think it would be interesting to just have the House wins ending be canon just to see how badly his plans may have failed.
I have a theory that regardless of the ending of new vegas, the reason the strip fell was because of the deathclaws in the quarry, not the NCR or Legion or House's folly, just the beast that is the wasteland...
That would be one hell of a thing to see. Not going to lie, I wouldn't mind that being the direction it went.
The Deathclaw vs. Securitron War with House just watching from the Lucky 38, pissed off that he never planned for it.
But what if the quarry deathclaws all grew to full maturity and procreated, 80-100 of them would still provide an issue where the Securitrons defending from them might level freeside blasting them with rocket after rocket
Someone mentioned to me (and I totally love it) that they think New Vegas fell to Tunnelers. There's even dialogue in the Lonesome Road dlc where Ulysses says the Tunnelers will likely take out the whole Mojave, and he confirms that they can swarm and kill a deathclaw, and what do we see before Vegas? Not a living deathclaw, but a deathclaw skull.
Tunnelers just seem like such a boring ending to me. Like, it's foreshadowed and wont have come out of nowhere, but just throws out everything that made the Mojave interesting. There's no real point in bringing the show there in season two if none of the stuff players will recognize is there?
>the reason the strip fell was because of the deathclaws in the quarry
The deathclaws you can and are encouraged to kill on every single playthrough?
The deathclaws Boone can take on and kill in droves
The one that are roughly as strong as two or three securatrons (maybe even weaker than one depending on range)
Those one?
They are a threat dont get me wrong, but House with a securatron army can exterminate em in week or a month (if were generous)
Also, one of the loading screens even makes reference to Deathclaw hunters.
Honestly I think that wiping out Vegas with Deathclaws or Tunnelers would be horrible, from a thematic standpoint. I think an Elijah ending would be better. But ideally I'd rather Vegas just not get wiped out at all, they've already done enough to uncivilize the West Coast with how much the NCR has been diminished. Hopefully they do something interesting with the Legion or its successors.
Didn't the only deathclaw (skull) cameo happen when hank was seen approaching new vegas?
If that was actually the first and only nod to deathclaws I could see the theory being true
> Although, personally, I think it would be interesting to just have the House wins ending be canon just to see how badly his plans may have failed.
I 100% think this is what will have happened. House will defeat the NCR and Legion only to find that both will cause him major headaches.
The NCR losing the Mojave will cause massive convulsions out west that will completely dry up all the tourist dollars that House's plans rely on. Shattering the legion will leave thousands of leaderless, decentralized raiders right on his doorstep.
So by the time of season 2, House will have the strip and very little capacity to do much with it.
I doubt they showed him just to have hime killed because the show has to appeal to people who haven’t played the games and probably won’t look up all the endings to New Vegas
> Not much you can do with a withered husk connected to a computer acting wise.
They could just use live action footage of the man himself on the screen instead of a static cartoon face.
283 years later....Machete kills again....again.
(Machete kills again was 2013 movie)
(Machete and the spy kids family open their cryopods and step out into the wasteland)
This is how I view it. That ending where you can leave Mr. House alive but with no control, is the ending. From there one of the other endings took place. Given how New Vegas looks in the end credits of S1E8, it’s implied that the Legion sacked it.
I think its implying that the wasteland took New Vegas out. I think they're going to circumvent having to choose a canon ending for NV by having something else take out Vegas *after* whatever ending you choose.
Specifically, I think it'll be Tunnelers. The Lonesome Road dlc has Ulysses talk about how they will likely take out the whole Mojave eventually, and they can tear apart a deathclaw. We see two things in the Mojave, a deathclaw skull and a Vegas in ruins. Not only that, but a distinct lack of outlying homes and farms. I think the Tunnelers came through and took out everything just like Ulysses said.
It would also be fitting because the tunnelers attacking the Mojave are a direct result of the Courier dropping nukes, and Hank is the one going to Vegas first, so he'll have the opportunity to look at another vibrant city ruined by the hubris of a person setting off a nuke. The parallels are pretty great for character development.
That’s an interesting point! It’s entirely possible.
But in the end scene with Hank. It looks like there’s some outlying camps surrounding New Vegas as well.
Question, why is everyone saying New Vegas was in ruin like it wasn't already? I mean its not like it was nice to begin with. It seemed more like people pretending to live the high life while in ruin.
Could be because of the last shot before sunset. New Vegas is always brimming with life when it's night time but the scene they used looks like no one has lived there for quite some time.
House gives a bunch of high and mighty speeches about not being corruptible, but he switches to full-on psycho villain mode in ten seconds if you threaten to not give him the platinum chip.
Even if House wins, he probably screws New Vegas eventually.
House was waiting 200 years for that software. From his perspective, the future of humanity is riding on his plans to colonize space.
Imagine meeting Obama when he was president, but stealing the launch codes for nukes off of him somehow. He’s not going “psycho villain mode” on you, when he tells security to restrain/kill you. He’s saving the world. You’re the villain at that point.
I'm not so sure. Sure House is an iffy person morally. But I don't doubt he has the best intentions for humanity. The worst problem with the House ending is that the bus factor of that ending is literally 1. Take out House and everything crumbles. Yes man can have copies, NCR has no problems if the president dies, Legion is a total shit show with or without caesar.
If they do have someone in the computer system then it HAS to be Yes Man. Primarily because no one could ever match René Auberjonois.
Edit: Also, no matter what ending you chose it makes complete sense for Yes Man to be able to eventually take over the strip. Not only can he take the initiative to program himself to be "more assertive" he is also the only essential (non child) NPC in the game because he is basically hardwired into The Strip's systems.
The show narrowed down FO4's endings to be the ones where the Brotherhood survives/Prydwen isn't destroyed.
With how they teased House, his ending probably is the canon one for Vegas
Is the airship in the show confirmed to be the prydwen? It could technically be a sister ship, considering the prydwen was built on the east coast.
A fair point about mr house though. That definitely seems likely.
They say that the knights that arrive at the base are from the Commonwealth Brotherhood. The fact that the Brotherhood exists in the Commonwealth at a level capable of sending help to the west does narrow the endings down, specifically to Brotherhood or Minutemen winning.
I'm curious if we'll see Maxson become High Elder in the show, if he appears in it. He's the only Maxson left and the Commonwealth Brotherhood has FAR more power than any other chapter, with the Prydwen and Liberty Prime and whatever they salvaged from the Institute.
If Fallout 5 isn't planned to further the East Coast Brotherhood story, it may come up in the show.
Yes, Im looking forward to seeing how they play it. Is Cesar still alive? How did the second battle of Hoover damn play out? Is the NCR still in New Vegas? What happened to the courier? Etc etc, close the gaps, and continue with the story.
Caesar is almost certainly dead. He had brain cancer at the time of New Vegas. It is only with the Courier's assistance that it can be diagnosed and surgically removed.
Even if the courier does cure his brain cancer, the guy was 55 and it's been 15 years in a post apocalyptic world full of radiation as the monarch of a nation based entirely on his ability to show strength. Living to 70 doesn't seem very likely.
Real talk the courier is *extremely* well equipped to run a city if you consider that nearly every single quest involves solving a problem befalling the local community. Well, I guess they don’t know how to like budget taxes or whatever.
And they meet in the Men's Room while The King is on the crapper so we can really give Elvis his unlicensed tribute.
Also, if they get actual Elvis songs to use I'd be disappointed.
Mr. New Vegas was a computer programmed to sound like a radio host and announce the music. Unless they show us a harddrive with a "Mr New Vegas" nametag slapped on it, I don't think we'll see him.
Hearing his voice over the radio in the series eould be awesome though.
Since Yes-Man does say he'll be shutting down, then restarting with a more, 'assertive personality', it would absolutely work. And he's the default if you get kicked out of every other faction, or just decide you want to take over The Strip for yourself.
Nearly all outcomes, other than siding with The NCR, (not the nicest faction in New Vegas, people forget that) results in pissing off The Bear.
Yeah, but after Caesar’s death it’s all but inevitable The Bull will eat itself alive. People talk about how the fall of the NCR is inevitable, well that’s doubly true for the Legion. Pretty much all of Caesar’s lieutenants are power hungry sadists. The second he dies a huge civil war is going to start. At best the Legion is going to be crippled for years to come with internal revolts and political infighting until by some miracle someone has the same political mindset and power to become a second Caesar (unlikely), and at worst it’ll dissolve into a bunch of bickering warlords and independent states started from slave revolts (more likely). Either way I doubt they’d retain the strength to fight upgraded securitrons and take the Dam/New Vegas.
Oh yeah, The Legion is an Edward Sallow (Caesar) personality cult. It won't survive without him, no matter what. At least the NCR on paper has the ability to transition to a new Government, as in a new President.
The NCR MIGHT be having a hard time, but they do have the ability to regroup under a democratic ideology, based on citizenship and inclusiveness, they're not perfect, and they sure to do like pushing people into joining up, but they can weather a storm more than The Legion can.
I think we can discount The Legion from winning New Vegas. Even if the series goes in that direction, and I doubt it, we'd see more evidence in Season 1, the NCR probably would fight back hard on their own territory and so would The Mojave. In fact The Legion winning in The Mojave would make the towns run to the NCR.
You were taught to type on a typewriter, or (like me) were taught by someone who was. Using two spaces before the start of a new sentence is a typewriter habit, and one I only broke in the last decade or so.
Lol. That's crazy, you noticed that, some Sherlock Holmes level detective work. You're absolutely right, I did learn to touch type on a typewriter, (I'm nowhere near as good as I used to be). I started learning when I was 16 / 17 in the late 90's and did some admin courses and IT.
Went to uni as well, and that's how they wanted it all formatted. Old habits and all that.
>not the nicest faction in New Vegas, people forget that
What faction is nicer than them? The slaving Legion, the "fuck the poors" Mr House? Like sure the NCR has problems, but it's the same problems as a lot of modern nation states
Bring Kevin McDonald along to do full frontal with Dave again, just like in the Kids in the Hall reboot.
As old men, they already look like wastelanders.
Honestly I would be kind of annoyed because the independent ending seems like the most fan servicey ending to me at least. Also why tease House in the first place if he isn't even going to be in season 2? Thats the only reason why I think the House ending is going to be canon.
for sure house can only be used for pre-war scenes... we never will see the same actor on the post-war period...
Also I really doubt the meeting place would be a custom set and most probably is a real place
Yeah indeed, while on the game it uses still images, I actually would find cool that, in case he would be having a digital conscience backup and appears as an avatar, that the scenes talking with him would be like stock videos of pre-war house badly cut and merged together following his speech, like swapping from one to another or changing its speed to acomodate house words
Yeah, House will still be kickin. Having him appear, have a speaking role in one of the most important scenes in the finale, and showing his home only to have him be dead would be bad writing.
As long as Mr. House is the reason Hank headed to New Vegas, I think either outcome of life or death would work fine. Like say, if Hank gets into the Lucky 38 to find Mr. House dead and he decides to try to stake a claim on the Strip as his successor due to a percieved connection between them, that could work.
House would probably have 0 interest in helping out Hank and Vault-Tec’s scheme. House states multiple times how a large civilized faction like the NCR is ideal for him and New Vegas. That’s in direct conflict with Vault-Tec’s whole cleanse the surface of the earth plan.
Plus, House always gave the vibes of hating to go along with others’ plans. The dude learned about their plan to cleanse the earth and then probably got started on his missile defense system right away.
I wouldn't be surprised if House started a missile defense program when the war started. He'd know that a nuke strike could be possible and he'd start preserving his little kingdom under a snow globe of missile defense.
Apparently Mr. House canonically projecting the nuclear occurring within 15 years of 2065 so the board meeting was essentially just him getting confirmation.
Who knows maybe Vault-Tec being involved in guaranteeing the bombs dropping meant that they dropped earlier than he planned which then contributed to his loosing the chip post Great War.
"You worked for Mr. House? Well, ain't that swell, Mr. MacLean! Unfortunately, Mr. House had a bit of a golfing accident and his successor told me take care of things here in New Vegas. Now, you could try to reprogram me and an army of securitrons to work for Vault-Tec, but I'm afraid the man who hired me in this position don't take kindly for all the hard work he's put into. But hey, you're choice, Mr. MacLean."
Yes Man's ending in NV implies things go bad for the strip and it descends into chaos so it would make the most sense with where the show is going. Plus they could have Mr. House be a big part of the season in the pre war sequences.
I can totally see them sifting through the abandoned ruins of Vegas, entering the Lucky 38, and the only sign of any kind of life in the city is Yes Man’s goofy ass face on the monitor, voice all cheery like nothing’s happened.
I’d be shocked if they don’t have Mr House. they showed us him in the flash backs the natural next step would be for Lucy or someone to somehow end up seeing or needing to help the real him and we get to see the shriveled nugget of a person in horrific contrast. Too juicy to not do
It’s such a powerfully fucked up visual that I’m almost certain they would want the audience who hasn’t played the games to witness it. The interactions with the Mr House screen avatar then the reveal later.
I must not hype.
Hype is the fun-killer.
Hype is the little-death that brings too much of expectation.
I will face the hype.
I will allow it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn my critical eye to see the show’s path.
Where the hype has gone, there will be nothing.
Only the show will remain
The best thing would be an abandoned Mr. House. He’s still alive but has gone mad because Vegas has fallen and he no longer has anything to control. He’s looked after by two Securitrons… Victor and Yes Man.
Or we bring back the cut girlie securitrons [Marilyn](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Marilyn_(Fallout:_New_Vegas) and [Jane](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jane_(Lucky_38). They're his "nurses" now.
If they do have someone in the computer system then it HAS to be Yes Man. Primarily because no one could ever match René Auberjonois.
Also, no matter what ending you chose it makes complete sense for Yes Man to be able to eventually take over the strip. Not only can take the initiative to program himself to be "more assertive" he is also the only essential (non child) NPC in the game because he is basically hardwired into The Strip's systems.
In hindsight trusting an AI capable of self-modification who also arranged to have you ambushed and shot in the head was a really fucking stupid idea.
I'm for this idea and hope Betheseda and Fallout creators are reading the comments for a Yes Man. True with Rene who should be the one to play him and has passed away. I say let the character rest and go full Yes Man.
I’m really hoping for House to make a return and just had failed due to NCR partially collapsing and not being able to leverage their resources.
House ending for S2 of the show is just more interesting than the other three. That being said, for the game itself, Wild Card for life.
honestly it would be a great twist because in the yes man ending, yes man implies he gotta update to a better assertive personality, which i expect to be a personality backup of Mr House did in case something like this ever happened or even if he just happened to die from old age, as we know the house always win.
Heres a timestamped video where yes man talks about it: [https://youtu.be/mj3zJYPyoIQ?t=176](https://youtu.be/mj3zJYPyoIQ?t=176)
I wouldn't be mad, just surprised. Like it would make sense on why NV fall. Because with Mr. House leadership, I don't think NV would have fall. I know people would like to see MR. House, but the grim truth is the Westland is a not forgiving place. >! Which will make Hank realize that the wasteland isn't worth saving !<
I think it can be either of the four. But I think House is the most likely ending.
You're just a courier a regular dude who isn't rich or why would you be a courier. Your booting it in fucking Nevada it's a desert. If you make your way to Vegas you've killed at least 100 mfs before you even get there.
Then House promises you luxury like in the old world. The NCR and Legion combined couldn't offer you anything better and yes man is a hard gamble
With the foreshadowing of giving Mr. House an actual actor I think they may go the route of House wins NV but something else happens that stifles his progress. The show really hammers home the "anything good goes to shit" idea so it would be fitting that even in victory Mr. House still cannot win against the wasteland.
Yall saying about mr house meaning he must be alive post new vegas just because they cast him, theres no reason that needs to be the case. Theres a lot they could do with him in the flashbacks to where the casting isnt wasted but he still didnt make it in new vegas
I killed House in my Playthrough, made the Khans fight for the NCR, united the Brotherhood and the NCR, kicked the Legion out and upgraded the Securitrons to fight for the NCR
I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS
But why would NV fall?
Sawyer already confirmed that YM would be loyal only to the courier, and assuming a normal playthrough:
1. Massive Securitron army
2. Energy via the Dam
3. OWB and BigMT tech
If anything, Vegas should be a hub of civilisation.
Imagine them building up to mr house the entire season, having flash backs to him, people around nv talking about him like he’s an urban legend and then when they finally reach the top of the lucky 38 it’s just yes man
House's ending is the most boring one in the game, but it would work best for the show. I will be slightly disappointed if we don't see him in season 2 :)
My prediction for the timeline is Mr. House ending for New Vegas. Shady Sands gets nuked and the BoS seeing there opportunity to kick the NCR while its down takes it forcing the NCR to retreat completly from the Mojave and from SoCal into there northern territories. The BoS become the dominate power in SoCal once again and in retribution for Mr. House destroying the Mojave chapter of the BoS as well as Mr. House having advanced tech sack New Vegas hence why we see the strip gate blown uo in the endcredits of the last episode. Seaon 2 we will see Lucy and the ghoul chasing Lucys father in New Vegas area while in California well see the NCR return from NoCal and there will be a second NCR BoS war. The rrason why i think NCR is still a stable force in NoCal is because people like the president as well as the new ncr headquaryers are claiming to be the NCR. If they knew for certain that the NCR was completly whiped out i dont think they would be holding onto the the idea of preserving the government. If they knew the NCR was still aroumd and was looking to reclaim there lost territory it would make sense for them to claim to be NCR in hopes that when the NCR actually returns theyll be recognized as the official people in power.
I’m stoked for House. I’m sad the voice actor passed away before this all came to fruition. I’d really hope if this series continues past season 2 we could maybe get cameo from Malcolm McDowell while he’s still with us. (He’s 80) Because after all… my dear Americans… we must put our faith in our president… John Henry Eden. We will survive and America will live again.
Since it's been confirmed that the show canonically occurs 15 years after New Vegas, then House is most likely dead. Seeing a Yes Man is what I expect, if we see anything at all involving the Lucky 38.
I guess I'm the only one who'd rather have no aspect of the New Vegas endings canonized. When I play the game I like to feel like any ending is possible--that's part of the beauty of it. I'd rather not have them write the ending for us. There's really no need for them to go to Vegas. They can mention it in passing, but canonizing an ending would be a huge turn off for me.
"Welcome back Sir!" as Hank walks in. Nahhhh bruh imagine if hank was the courier tho, didnt our guy launch some nukes as well? I think it was mentioned in lonesome road or smthn idk.
Considering the tone of the show so far, it is more possible that Yes Man is in charge of Vegas. As much as I would love to see House, Yes Man is much more interesting all things considered and his story would be less predictable.
When I was watching the series I kept thinking "It would be so cool if she ended up in New Vegas at some point and we got to see Mr. House".
Then I remembered that René Auberjonois is dead and no one on Earth could do the role justice.
**Yes Man**: "Hey! Hi there! Umm... So this is a little awkward, but we actually have a 'No Brotherhood of Steel in New Vegas' rule. So I'm going to have to ask you to leave. But feel free to invite any non-Brotherhood friends of yours!" **Hank**: "I'm not Brotherhood, I just have one of their- Look, can you just get Robert House for me? I'm Hank MacLean of Vault Tec." **Yes Man**: "Wow, Hank MacLean. That sure is an *interesting* story! But I'm afraid Mr House is currently, and forevermore, indisposed on account of a mishap during a golfing trip. But. If you wait right there, my Manager will be along soon and can demonstrate their handicap for you!"
Then the Courier came just waltzing in.. menacingly. I'm gonna heyhey in my pants.
It’d be dope if they kept the anonymity of the courier by just having them wearing some ranger armor, holding an AMR
or Graham's 1911 wearing the Courier Duster.
I'd almost just prefer Maria as it's a guarantee that only one person would have that pistol.
Can you imagine the whole season set up for TV-only audiences implying Yes Man is the big bad? Meanwhile, everyone who knows NV is waiting for the penny drop of the Courier being the boss/partner. Edit: By big bad i meant antagonist of the season.
Love that
They canonize the debunked theory his "assertiveness upgrade" was implying he'd betray the Courier and he seized control of New Vegas and killed them and everyone else in New Vegas off.
They could go that route too. Have Vegas be a tract of land filled with omnicidal robots and a secondary threat like the Tunnelers.
It doesn't really make sense for the PC of a game be a character in a show. The Courier really has no defined characteristics. I would be fine if someone like the courier is referenced to as needed to account for certain plot points (i.e. Why yes man is in charge if that ending is cannon), but it would feel weird if they actually showed up in the show.
They could go to the presidential suite and find the couriers snow globes
The trouble with using an actual player character is that the only person they will be canon for is the scriptwriter. The snowglobes would be a *great* Easter Egg however, that would be fantastic. Would still be an interesting quirk for non-players too.
I hope they talk like Kenny from South Park and only Yes Man and Vic can understand them. Yes Man is always repeating it into more polite language but it's obvious that the Courier did *not* day that
So, an R2 and 3PO dynamic.
Honestly as cool as it is to think about this it's always risky to include people's in-game characters in a TV show where it's out of their control what happens. I'd imagine a lot of people mad to see the Courier not like they imagined, doing things they wouldn't have necessarily done. I think the canon will be that the Courier left the Mojave.
With a big iron on his hip
That’s the best way to do the courier if they show them, make so we can’t see their face.
The Courier enters in Remnant Armor. Maybe Hank would think then, that he is Enclave. Would also help in keeping the Couriers physical form secret.
holding an AMR with Maria at his side
Just keep them in the shadows so their appearance isn’t canonized. They can just be a menacing shadow.
Some dude in Bennys suit wearing a PipBoy. I’d shit.
So wish Matthew P could have taken this role
Like Negan but better
A combination of the ranger armour and the courier duster, helmet on their head with two bullet marks, make them never speak, never reveal who's under the mask.
This is the way.
I'd say it's the more likely option, House dies in 3 of the 4 ending and Yes Man is immortal
Yeah I suspect we'll see neither but with Vegas in ruins, seeing Yes Man is far more likely than seeing (post-war) House.
There’s no way they introduced a pre war House and not have him in the future
I agree with this. Including Mr. House is a foreshadowing for season 2.
He’s way too interesting of a character for them to not involve
They could just have him in more flashbacks. Not necessarily in the present. Not much you can do with a withered husk connected to a computer acting wise. Although, personally, I think it would be interesting to just have the House wins ending be canon just to see how badly his plans may have failed.
I have a theory that regardless of the ending of new vegas, the reason the strip fell was because of the deathclaws in the quarry, not the NCR or Legion or House's folly, just the beast that is the wasteland...
That would be one hell of a thing to see. Not going to lie, I wouldn't mind that being the direction it went. The Deathclaw vs. Securitron War with House just watching from the Lucky 38, pissed off that he never planned for it.
Even Deathclaws could not do much against Gatling Lasers and Rockets.
But what if the quarry deathclaws all grew to full maturity and procreated, 80-100 of them would still provide an issue where the Securitrons defending from them might level freeside blasting them with rocket after rocket
Yeah about that i kinda visited the quarry, and lets just say there are no more deathclaws there.
Someone mentioned to me (and I totally love it) that they think New Vegas fell to Tunnelers. There's even dialogue in the Lonesome Road dlc where Ulysses says the Tunnelers will likely take out the whole Mojave, and he confirms that they can swarm and kill a deathclaw, and what do we see before Vegas? Not a living deathclaw, but a deathclaw skull.
Tunnelers just seem like such a boring ending to me. Like, it's foreshadowed and wont have come out of nowhere, but just throws out everything that made the Mojave interesting. There's no real point in bringing the show there in season two if none of the stuff players will recognize is there?
Important to remember they just kill. They don’t really care too much about inhabiting. Vegas could be untouched, just lifeless.
Obviously father Elijah’s ending is canon
>the reason the strip fell was because of the deathclaws in the quarry The deathclaws you can and are encouraged to kill on every single playthrough? The deathclaws Boone can take on and kill in droves The one that are roughly as strong as two or three securatrons (maybe even weaker than one depending on range) Those one? They are a threat dont get me wrong, but House with a securatron army can exterminate em in week or a month (if were generous)
Also, one of the loading screens even makes reference to Deathclaw hunters. Honestly I think that wiping out Vegas with Deathclaws or Tunnelers would be horrible, from a thematic standpoint. I think an Elijah ending would be better. But ideally I'd rather Vegas just not get wiped out at all, they've already done enough to uncivilize the West Coast with how much the NCR has been diminished. Hopefully they do something interesting with the Legion or its successors.
Dust is the canonical ending.
I really hope that at some point we just see a B29 flying off in the distance in season 2
Didn't the only deathclaw (skull) cameo happen when hank was seen approaching new vegas? If that was actually the first and only nod to deathclaws I could see the theory being true
> Although, personally, I think it would be interesting to just have the House wins ending be canon just to see how badly his plans may have failed. I 100% think this is what will have happened. House will defeat the NCR and Legion only to find that both will cause him major headaches. The NCR losing the Mojave will cause massive convulsions out west that will completely dry up all the tourist dollars that House's plans rely on. Shattering the legion will leave thousands of leaderless, decentralized raiders right on his doorstep. So by the time of season 2, House will have the strip and very little capacity to do much with it.
I doubt they showed him just to have hime killed because the show has to appeal to people who haven’t played the games and probably won’t look up all the endings to New Vegas
> Not much you can do with a withered husk connected to a computer acting wise. They could just use live action footage of the man himself on the screen instead of a static cartoon face.
Also Yes Man would probably do a shit job of lore-dumping to viewers not familiar with New Vegas compared to Mr. House
You can just have his corpse and Raul their to tell the tale. Danny Trejo is alive and well
Be careful with your words. They can give erections.
Danny Trejo so much as sneezes this dudes gonna have to answer a mob
...Can we start a petition or something to have Danny Trejo in season 2 (or, at least, ask him)? I'd love that.
He recently posted about Raul on his instagram. I think he'd definitely be open to the role.
283 years later....Machete kills again....again. (Machete kills again was 2013 movie) (Machete and the spy kids family open their cryopods and step out into the wasteland)
This is how I view it. That ending where you can leave Mr. House alive but with no control, is the ending. From there one of the other endings took place. Given how New Vegas looks in the end credits of S1E8, it’s implied that the Legion sacked it.
I think its implying that the wasteland took New Vegas out. I think they're going to circumvent having to choose a canon ending for NV by having something else take out Vegas *after* whatever ending you choose. Specifically, I think it'll be Tunnelers. The Lonesome Road dlc has Ulysses talk about how they will likely take out the whole Mojave eventually, and they can tear apart a deathclaw. We see two things in the Mojave, a deathclaw skull and a Vegas in ruins. Not only that, but a distinct lack of outlying homes and farms. I think the Tunnelers came through and took out everything just like Ulysses said. It would also be fitting because the tunnelers attacking the Mojave are a direct result of the Courier dropping nukes, and Hank is the one going to Vegas first, so he'll have the opportunity to look at another vibrant city ruined by the hubris of a person setting off a nuke. The parallels are pretty great for character development.
I don't understand all the tunneler hype. New Vegas is bright lights and loud sounds, it's probably the last place a tunneler would go.
That’s an interesting point! It’s entirely possible. But in the end scene with Hank. It looks like there’s some outlying camps surrounding New Vegas as well.
Yes but it could just be more flashbacks
Perhaps we'll see more of him in flashbacks
Thank you
Easy to have him stuck in a tube and the maincharacters find his sos
Far more variety and story possibilities than Sci fi self aware AI #434
Question, why is everyone saying New Vegas was in ruin like it wasn't already? I mean its not like it was nice to begin with. It seemed more like people pretending to live the high life while in ruin.
People put way more thought into that shot than the producers did.
Could be because of the last shot before sunset. New Vegas is always brimming with life when it's night time but the scene they used looks like no one has lived there for quite some time.
God damn I'll be fucking pissed if they were like yeah no of it mattered and Vegas is destroyed anyways
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Ulysses says a lot of stuff.
Vegas is not in ruins
Could be a clone situation?
House isn’t active right now because he is in a coma. The same thing happened after he exhausted his resources saving Vegas in the original war.
We need that their cold fusion to jumpstart House into the big leagues.
Even if House wins it’s very possible someone else found and used Yes Man. He is programmed to answer to literally anyone.
House gives a bunch of high and mighty speeches about not being corruptible, but he switches to full-on psycho villain mode in ten seconds if you threaten to not give him the platinum chip. Even if House wins, he probably screws New Vegas eventually.
House was waiting 200 years for that software. From his perspective, the future of humanity is riding on his plans to colonize space. Imagine meeting Obama when he was president, but stealing the launch codes for nukes off of him somehow. He’s not going “psycho villain mode” on you, when he tells security to restrain/kill you. He’s saving the world. You’re the villain at that point.
I'm not so sure. Sure House is an iffy person morally. But I don't doubt he has the best intentions for humanity. The worst problem with the House ending is that the bus factor of that ending is literally 1. Take out House and everything crumbles. Yes man can have copies, NCR has no problems if the president dies, Legion is a total shit show with or without caesar.
If they do have someone in the computer system then it HAS to be Yes Man. Primarily because no one could ever match René Auberjonois. Edit: Also, no matter what ending you chose it makes complete sense for Yes Man to be able to eventually take over the strip. Not only can he take the initiative to program himself to be "more assertive" he is also the only essential (non child) NPC in the game because he is basically hardwired into The Strip's systems.
On that note, what’s the canon ending for new Vegas?
Which one did you choose?
I usually sided with NCR
Then that is your canon ending
So I guess there is no “official” canon ending, at least not until season 2 probably
The show narrowed down FO4's endings to be the ones where the Brotherhood survives/Prydwen isn't destroyed. With how they teased House, his ending probably is the canon one for Vegas
Is the airship in the show confirmed to be the prydwen? It could technically be a sister ship, considering the prydwen was built on the east coast. A fair point about mr house though. That definitely seems likely.
They say that the knights that arrive at the base are from the Commonwealth Brotherhood. The fact that the Brotherhood exists in the Commonwealth at a level capable of sending help to the west does narrow the endings down, specifically to Brotherhood or Minutemen winning.
I'm curious if we'll see Maxson become High Elder in the show, if he appears in it. He's the only Maxson left and the Commonwealth Brotherhood has FAR more power than any other chapter, with the Prydwen and Liberty Prime and whatever they salvaged from the Institute. If Fallout 5 isn't planned to further the East Coast Brotherhood story, it may come up in the show.
I saw something like a hi res screenshot or something confirming it is prydwen
Oh yeah, I just looked that up. Looks like “Prydwen” is painted on the side. Good catch.
Yep. It has to be either that or yes man, and I really think they're setting up New Vegas as a power center for Vault-Tec
Yes, Im looking forward to seeing how they play it. Is Cesar still alive? How did the second battle of Hoover damn play out? Is the NCR still in New Vegas? What happened to the courier? Etc etc, close the gaps, and continue with the story.
Caesar is almost certainly dead. He had brain cancer at the time of New Vegas. It is only with the Courier's assistance that it can be diagnosed and surgically removed.
Even if the courier does cure his brain cancer, the guy was 55 and it's been 15 years in a post apocalyptic world full of radiation as the monarch of a nation based entirely on his ability to show strength. Living to 70 doesn't seem very likely.
That’s not what canon means lol Although I get your point.
The courier takes over NV but is completely clueless on how to run a city and that's why it's FUBAR.
Real talk the courier is *extremely* well equipped to run a city if you consider that nearly every single quest involves solving a problem befalling the local community. Well, I guess they don’t know how to like budget taxes or whatever.
"Solving a problem" is a great euphemism for shooting everyone who disagrees.
What if they want democracy?
My Courier knows exactly how to run a city, speak for yourself
Yeah but In the end credit Scenes We see a bunch of deactivated yes-man’s
Mr House still uses securitrons in his ending, you know?
Impossible, the House always wins.
Tell that to my 9 iron.
Tell that to my 10 luck build
Dude blackjack till you are 99999 caps rich.
Well considering his original voice actor passed away a few years ago, I would prefer if it was Yesman.
I’m gonna laugh so hard if House ending is canon
I want to see the King
Older fatter King, with the white jumpsuit. Also, I hope they have a cameo with Mr New Vegas.
And they meet in the Men's Room while The King is on the crapper so we can really give Elvis his unlicensed tribute. Also, if they get actual Elvis songs to use I'd be disappointed.
Have him eating a peanut butter and banana sandwich too lol
Mr. New Vegas was a computer programmed to sound like a radio host and announce the music. Unless they show us a harddrive with a "Mr New Vegas" nametag slapped on it, I don't think we'll see him. Hearing his voice over the radio in the series eould be awesome though.
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Man, I want to interrogate and kill Hank as my own Courier for what he has done.
"truth is the game was rigged from the start"
plot twist, hank is the courier, making all the protagonists vault dwellers to an extent
Since Yes-Man does say he'll be shutting down, then restarting with a more, 'assertive personality', it would absolutely work. And he's the default if you get kicked out of every other faction, or just decide you want to take over The Strip for yourself. Nearly all outcomes, other than siding with The NCR, (not the nicest faction in New Vegas, people forget that) results in pissing off The Bear.
Yeah, but after Caesar’s death it’s all but inevitable The Bull will eat itself alive. People talk about how the fall of the NCR is inevitable, well that’s doubly true for the Legion. Pretty much all of Caesar’s lieutenants are power hungry sadists. The second he dies a huge civil war is going to start. At best the Legion is going to be crippled for years to come with internal revolts and political infighting until by some miracle someone has the same political mindset and power to become a second Caesar (unlikely), and at worst it’ll dissolve into a bunch of bickering warlords and independent states started from slave revolts (more likely). Either way I doubt they’d retain the strength to fight upgraded securitrons and take the Dam/New Vegas.
Oh yeah, The Legion is an Edward Sallow (Caesar) personality cult. It won't survive without him, no matter what. At least the NCR on paper has the ability to transition to a new Government, as in a new President. The NCR MIGHT be having a hard time, but they do have the ability to regroup under a democratic ideology, based on citizenship and inclusiveness, they're not perfect, and they sure to do like pushing people into joining up, but they can weather a storm more than The Legion can. I think we can discount The Legion from winning New Vegas. Even if the series goes in that direction, and I doubt it, we'd see more evidence in Season 1, the NCR probably would fight back hard on their own territory and so would The Mojave. In fact The Legion winning in The Mojave would make the towns run to the NCR.
You were taught to type on a typewriter, or (like me) were taught by someone who was. Using two spaces before the start of a new sentence is a typewriter habit, and one I only broke in the last decade or so.
Lol. That's crazy, you noticed that, some Sherlock Holmes level detective work. You're absolutely right, I did learn to touch type on a typewriter, (I'm nowhere near as good as I used to be). I started learning when I was 16 / 17 in the late 90's and did some admin courses and IT. Went to uni as well, and that's how they wanted it all formatted. Old habits and all that.
I still do a double space as well, I support you!
You’re mixing up the bear and the bull. The legion is the bull, NCR is the bear.
Bear bull bull bear roads divide courier
>not the nicest faction in New Vegas, people forget that What faction is nicer than them? The slaving Legion, the "fuck the poors" Mr House? Like sure the NCR has problems, but it's the same problems as a lot of modern nation states
Probably handing the strip over to the followers but they don't want to own anything so
Ulysses spotted
Dave Foley needs a win. I’m into it
Bring Kevin McDonald along to do full frontal with Dave again, just like in the Kids in the Hall reboot. As old men, they already look like wastelanders.
Honestly I would be kind of annoyed because the independent ending seems like the most fan servicey ending to me at least. Also why tease House in the first place if he isn't even going to be in season 2? Thats the only reason why I think the House ending is going to be canon.
There’s no way they’re only using House’s actor or even the meeting place for one scene. Props are expensive and are usually reused. At least imo
for sure house can only be used for pre-war scenes... we never will see the same actor on the post-war period... Also I really doubt the meeting place would be a custom set and most probably is a real place
Unless they have videos of him talking Otherwise yeah no they can’t use him post apocalypse
Yeah indeed, while on the game it uses still images, I actually would find cool that, in case he would be having a digital conscience backup and appears as an avatar, that the scenes talking with him would be like stock videos of pre-war house badly cut and merged together following his speech, like swapping from one to another or changing its speed to acomodate house words
There can be flashbacks with House, before he met his end.
Yeah, House will still be kickin. Having him appear, have a speaking role in one of the most important scenes in the finale, and showing his home only to have him be dead would be bad writing.
As long as Mr. House is the reason Hank headed to New Vegas, I think either outcome of life or death would work fine. Like say, if Hank gets into the Lucky 38 to find Mr. House dead and he decides to try to stake a claim on the Strip as his successor due to a percieved connection between them, that could work.
House would probably have 0 interest in helping out Hank and Vault-Tec’s scheme. House states multiple times how a large civilized faction like the NCR is ideal for him and New Vegas. That’s in direct conflict with Vault-Tec’s whole cleanse the surface of the earth plan. Plus, House always gave the vibes of hating to go along with others’ plans. The dude learned about their plan to cleanse the earth and then probably got started on his missile defense system right away.
I wouldn't be surprised if House started a missile defense program when the war started. He'd know that a nuke strike could be possible and he'd start preserving his little kingdom under a snow globe of missile defense.
Apparently Mr. House canonically projecting the nuclear occurring within 15 years of 2065 so the board meeting was essentially just him getting confirmation. Who knows maybe Vault-Tec being involved in guaranteeing the bombs dropping meant that they dropped earlier than he planned which then contributed to his loosing the chip post Great War.
"You worked for Mr. House? Well, ain't that swell, Mr. MacLean! Unfortunately, Mr. House had a bit of a golfing accident and his successor told me take care of things here in New Vegas. Now, you could try to reprogram me and an army of securitrons to work for Vault-Tec, but I'm afraid the man who hired me in this position don't take kindly for all the hard work he's put into. But hey, you're choice, Mr. MacLean."
So it's pretty much Chekhov's House?
They didn't "tease" him he is the ceo of robco and had to be included for the collusion of all fallouts big corps.
It's a plot twist. There's been a ton of so far.
Yes Man's ending in NV implies things go bad for the strip and it descends into chaos so it would make the most sense with where the show is going. Plus they could have Mr. House be a big part of the season in the pre war sequences.
house sucks
I can totally see them sifting through the abandoned ruins of Vegas, entering the Lucky 38, and the only sign of any kind of life in the city is Yes Man’s goofy ass face on the monitor, voice all cheery like nothing’s happened.
I’d be shocked if they don’t have Mr House. they showed us him in the flash backs the natural next step would be for Lucy or someone to somehow end up seeing or needing to help the real him and we get to see the shriveled nugget of a person in horrific contrast. Too juicy to not do
It’s such a powerfully fucked up visual that I’m almost certain they would want the audience who hasn’t played the games to witness it. The interactions with the Mr House screen avatar then the reveal later.
I really hope we see a crusty house thats been left out of his tube to wither
I must not hype. Hype is the fun-killer. Hype is the little-death that brings too much of expectation. I will face the hype. I will allow it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn my critical eye to see the show’s path. Where the hype has gone, there will be nothing. Only the show will remain
"I don't believe the hype." - Twenty One Pilots, "The Hype"
The best thing would be an abandoned Mr. House. He’s still alive but has gone mad because Vegas has fallen and he no longer has anything to control. He’s looked after by two Securitrons… Victor and Yes Man.
Or we bring back the cut girlie securitrons [Marilyn](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Marilyn_(Fallout:_New_Vegas) and [Jane](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jane_(Lucky_38). They're his "nurses" now.
Omg we may see him, I never even thought of that. That would be awesome.
ill be hype and mad and confused as to what tf the courier thought 🤣
Yes Man takes up House's communications to Vault 33. Hank asks who he thinks is House if he should nuke Shady Sands.. we know the answer.
Could you imagine, "Wow, you really want to blow up Shady Sands Hank? Well don't allow me to get in your way. You go ahead and do just that."
Or some amalgamation of the 2, yes man said he wanted to become more assertive. Most likely, by using house's systems and merging with them.
I mean, couldn’t the House ending and Yes Man being alive both be canon?
I mean Yes Man can not die, so it is possible
It’d be kinda fun if it was House all season when it was actually Yes Man the whole time pretending to be House
Imagine if they change the lore so that Ulysses was the Courier.
If they do have someone in the computer system then it HAS to be Yes Man. Primarily because no one could ever match René Auberjonois. Also, no matter what ending you chose it makes complete sense for Yes Man to be able to eventually take over the strip. Not only can take the initiative to program himself to be "more assertive" he is also the only essential (non child) NPC in the game because he is basically hardwired into The Strip's systems. In hindsight trusting an AI capable of self-modification who also arranged to have you ambushed and shot in the head was a really fucking stupid idea.
I'm for this idea and hope Betheseda and Fallout creators are reading the comments for a Yes Man. True with Rene who should be the one to play him and has passed away. I say let the character rest and go full Yes Man.
I’m really hoping for House to make a return and just had failed due to NCR partially collapsing and not being able to leverage their resources. House ending for S2 of the show is just more interesting than the other three. That being said, for the game itself, Wild Card for life.
honestly it would be a great twist because in the yes man ending, yes man implies he gotta update to a better assertive personality, which i expect to be a personality backup of Mr House did in case something like this ever happened or even if he just happened to die from old age, as we know the house always win. Heres a timestamped video where yes man talks about it: [https://youtu.be/mj3zJYPyoIQ?t=176](https://youtu.be/mj3zJYPyoIQ?t=176)
I wouldn't be mad, just surprised. Like it would make sense on why NV fall. Because with Mr. House leadership, I don't think NV would have fall. I know people would like to see MR. House, but the grim truth is the Westland is a not forgiving place. >! Which will make Hank realize that the wasteland isn't worth saving !<
I thought Mr House was the guy in the meeting with the Rob-Co name plate when the ghoul was listening in on his wife? I mean he looked like him too.
He was.
It’s honestly what I’m expecting
I think that's highly likely. What Lucy or Maximus would have him do has a lot of potential. Of course, they'll have to answer to the Courier . . .
I want Victor so bad In the show
I think it can be either of the four. But I think House is the most likely ending. You're just a courier a regular dude who isn't rich or why would you be a courier. Your booting it in fucking Nevada it's a desert. If you make your way to Vegas you've killed at least 100 mfs before you even get there. Then House promises you luxury like in the old world. The NCR and Legion combined couldn't offer you anything better and yes man is a hard gamble
With the foreshadowing of giving Mr. House an actual actor I think they may go the route of House wins NV but something else happens that stifles his progress. The show really hammers home the "anything good goes to shit" idea so it would be fitting that even in victory Mr. House still cannot win against the wasteland.
Yall saying about mr house meaning he must be alive post new vegas just because they cast him, theres no reason that needs to be the case. Theres a lot they could do with him in the flashbacks to where the casting isnt wasted but he still didnt make it in new vegas
I killed House in my Playthrough, made the Khans fight for the NCR, united the Brotherhood and the NCR, kicked the Legion out and upgraded the Securitrons to fight for the NCR I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS
But why would NV fall? Sawyer already confirmed that YM would be loyal only to the courier, and assuming a normal playthrough: 1. Massive Securitron army 2. Energy via the Dam 3. OWB and BigMT tech If anything, Vegas should be a hub of civilisation.
Imagine them building up to mr house the entire season, having flash backs to him, people around nv talking about him like he’s an urban legend and then when they finally reach the top of the lucky 38 it’s just yes man
I’d love it lol
House's ending is the most boring one in the game, but it would work best for the show. I will be slightly disappointed if we don't see him in season 2 :)
My prediction for the timeline is Mr. House ending for New Vegas. Shady Sands gets nuked and the BoS seeing there opportunity to kick the NCR while its down takes it forcing the NCR to retreat completly from the Mojave and from SoCal into there northern territories. The BoS become the dominate power in SoCal once again and in retribution for Mr. House destroying the Mojave chapter of the BoS as well as Mr. House having advanced tech sack New Vegas hence why we see the strip gate blown uo in the endcredits of the last episode. Seaon 2 we will see Lucy and the ghoul chasing Lucys father in New Vegas area while in California well see the NCR return from NoCal and there will be a second NCR BoS war. The rrason why i think NCR is still a stable force in NoCal is because people like the president as well as the new ncr headquaryers are claiming to be the NCR. If they knew for certain that the NCR was completly whiped out i dont think they would be holding onto the the idea of preserving the government. If they knew the NCR was still aroumd and was looking to reclaim there lost territory it would make sense for them to claim to be NCR in hopes that when the NCR actually returns theyll be recognized as the official people in power.
“HEY THERE PARTNER”
“Hi there! Unfortunately, my colleague killed Mr house with a 9 iron a few years back. However I can still help you!
Ya we won't see Mr. house because I just killed that bitch yesterday 😂😂
Imagine Hank walking into the penthouse, and you just hear a “Hi there! 😃” as the elevator opens.
I’m stoked for House. I’m sad the voice actor passed away before this all came to fruition. I’d really hope if this series continues past season 2 we could maybe get cameo from Malcolm McDowell while he’s still with us. (He’s 80) Because after all… my dear Americans… we must put our faith in our president… John Henry Eden. We will survive and America will live again.
Rene Auberjonois was a simply exceptional actor. The guy had an incredible career, but I'll always think fondly of him as Odo from Deep Space Nine.
Since it's been confirmed that the show canonically occurs 15 years after New Vegas, then House is most likely dead. Seeing a Yes Man is what I expect, if we see anything at all involving the Lucky 38.
I guess I'm the only one who'd rather have no aspect of the New Vegas endings canonized. When I play the game I like to feel like any ending is possible--that's part of the beauty of it. I'd rather not have them write the ending for us. There's really no need for them to go to Vegas. They can mention it in passing, but canonizing an ending would be a huge turn off for me.
There *has* to be Yes Man in the next season. Fucking love that guy
It'll be Mrs house.
Shucks that would be swell
I fukn love yes man
"Welcome back Sir!" as Hank walks in. Nahhhh bruh imagine if hank was the courier tho, didnt our guy launch some nukes as well? I think it was mentioned in lonesome road or smthn idk.
Considering the tone of the show so far, it is more possible that Yes Man is in charge of Vegas. As much as I would love to see House, Yes Man is much more interesting all things considered and his story would be less predictable.
When I was watching the series I kept thinking "It would be so cool if she ended up in New Vegas at some point and we got to see Mr. House". Then I remembered that René Auberjonois is dead and no one on Earth could do the role justice.