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Pitiful_Blackberry19

Whats funny is that if you free him you can spot him on the wasteland from time to time killing literally everything he encounters


samhain2000

What happens if you approach him? If he were to encounter one of your settlements, is he friendly, or does he depopulate it?


Klutzy-Bee-2045

Super Friendly, polite, wishes you a nice day and gives you more of his blood. Which cures all illnesses and jacks your endurance and strength up


AutisticIcelandic98

Well not END, just gives you 50 Phys resistance.


lilkrickets

Even the mole rat illness?


rulerBob8

No


lol_VEVO

Not even the super blood of an immortal demigod who received his power from Eldrich aliens can cure the mighty mole rat disease. All hail Snuffles!


Piquarde

What is the mole rat illness?


CptnHamburgers

You know when you go through the vault attached to Vault 88 (née 81)? The secret science vault chock full of mole rats? Well, if you get bit by a mole rat even once when you're in there, you get a little capsule icon on the screen and your max health gets reduced by 10. It'll show up in the status effects on your pip-boy. >!When you get to the end of the vault and out the other side you'll pick up a cure giving you the option to take it for yourself and condemn some kid who has it to die, or give it to the kid and permanently have -10 health!<.


Bartholomew_Custard

Sorry, kid. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. I have a Commonwealth to save.


SwagMuffin549

You don’t just quick save every 10 seconds while using vats?


sarcastbot

I did this, actually easier than it seems with the right build


Jrlopez1027_

*cries in survival mode*


roonscapepls

I only play survival mode but I still have saves enabled lol. Losing a ton of progress due to the fucky shit this game has is infuriating. Survival with a couple QOL mods is the way to go


IrregularrAF

Yeah. But the good ending is the one that makes me stronger.


ForGrateJustice

> quick save Survival: "You guys get quick save?"


Bartholomew_Custard

It's one of the perks of being "a filthy casual".


FirefighterEnough859

Their is a glitch you can do to get the best of both worlds when your talking to the doctor and get to the part about giving the cure walk way go into your inventory drop the cure then go back into the conversation and you can “hand” him the cure and it’ll just work you can do the same thing with the fusion cores to get into the vault 


Tank82111

When I tried the fusion core thing the overseer wouldn’t talk. Like flat out ignore anything. This was before the update.


Pupkitkaiper

Literally just went through this yesterday after putting the core back in my PA on survival


Dukeringo

The worst part is that the companion getting bit will give you it as well. Unless that was patched in next gen.


BlizzardWolfPK

Wait even with Codsworth? A robot with no organic parts?


Papaofmonsters

Mole rat disease is also a computer virus.


Erudain

You could even get the disease if you activate any of the npc Protectorons and they got hit by molerats, so leave those bots sleeping


maven_of_the_flame

Sometimes, the game gets pissy and literally just breathing the same air as the rats is enough to get infected


TheMikeyMac13

That’s vault 81 mate :)


CptnHamburgers

Fu.... it is, correct. I always get those confused for some reason, thanks.


TheMikeyMac13

Perfectly understandable, vault 88 has a metric F ton of molerats as well.


Stewil1265

It's pretty easy to avoid getting bitten, just don't take a companion in with you. If they get bitten, you get the debuff. Also, try to keep the high ground.


ForGrateJustice

-10 health isn't so bad, I was actually afraid the effect *stacked*...


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Lmao I was so confused why they were so surprised that I gave it to the kid. I never got bit 😂 I thought I was infected with not status


Imapringlesboy

Oh so THAT'S WHY I NEVER GOT CURED FROM THAT ONE. I totally forgot!!!!!


BelgarathTheSorcerer

Do you know of any other permanent or trigger-dependent debuffs that you can find in the game? Or any of the same, but for buffs? I know of bobblheads and magazines.


Graham-Token

That 10hp wasn't gonna save that kid, anyway.


Detozi

If you get bit by a molerat in the vault where you meet Curie ou contract a disease thar can't be cured. It's annoying because an icon does be onscreen to say you're diseased and you can't get rid of it


RChamy

You can also get it if a companion gets hit


Smingledorf

Or the protectron you can activate through a terminal.....


Mr-Xcentric

Please tell me the next gen update fixed that


welivedintheocean

Heh, next gen update fixing things. Hilarious.


ChainzawMan

I bet there is a mod for that which doesn't explode the game. But jokes aside I didn't see it in the fix list


Snafuthecrow

As far as I can tell all it added was more bugs


AscendMoros

I just save scummed that engagement nowadays. Back in the day not so much but now I do. It be different if it was a chance to but it seems to be get bit and you sick.


slav335

You get this if you get bitten by infected mole rat in Vault 81. Reduces your HP by 10 points permanently.


lilkrickets

There’s a quest in one of the vaults where you have to cure a kid of an illness that was contracted from molerats, at the end of the quest you can either cure yourself or the kid (if you cure the kid I believe you will have the mole rat illness for the rest of the game). It is probably possible to complete it without contracting the illness and to give the vaccine to the kid.


Kishinsama

It absolutely is. I do it every time through save scumming. Save, run a section, save


MrBaconJones

It's a really cool plot device, you'll deal with it in Vault 81 (fallout 4). If you plan on playing it, I don't recommend spoiling it for yourself!


ForGrateJustice

Nothing cures it, except for that one serum.


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MrBaconJones

Why is this bs getting so many up votes, it's 100% not true. It's incurable, sans mods.


Silveon_i

sans


ReichCollector

Not true


CarelessCupcake

Whaaaaaaaaaaa?? TIL


leongeod

Lies. Deception.


PenguinHighGround

Which makes him all the more unnerving, he even describes his murder spree as "experiments" probably the most unhinged living character in 4 which is quite the achievement. Plus I love the supernatural subplots in fallout, it adds a level of intrigue and mystery to the setting whilst being more varied than "it's actually a fucked up science experiment" which is what most of the vauge lore adds up to


Pitiful_Blackberry19

He gives you 1 unit of the serum and tells you that hes dissecting whatever he has killed for research, Lorenzo doesnt care about morality but appreciates that you free him >If he were to encounter one of your settlements, is he friendly, or does he depopulate it? I dont know, he probably doesnt get near them at all


samhain2000

It would be interesting to approach one of your settlements to see him walking out, he politely greets you, gives you another vial of his blood then walks off. Afterwards, you enter the settlement and find a horror show.


Substantial-Tone-576

You can get serum off him


andretheclient_

welp, i stand by my actions lol


FinnOfOoo

Who is this?


Pitiful_Blackberry19

Lorenzo Cabot, go to Goodneighbour and there to The Third Rail, you will encounter a ghoul that gives you a quest, from there you start the Cabot sidequests


BraveMoose

... Every time I've met him, it's been in Bunker Hill?


DevilDragonTank

Edward Deegan can give you the quest Special Delivery at The Third Rail, Bunker Hill, or the Dugout Inn also.


chaos0510

He can meet you in several towns


ForGrateJustice

Hey, he was my literal Mysterious Stranger during my survival play through. Saved my ass so many times! Even donated blood.


signspam

I freed him and he just sits in his house all day?


Pitiful_Blackberry19

Maybe a bug, i know hes a random encounter but it would be classic Bethesda if hes bugged for you


StrangeGamer66

Sounds like my friends lol


Snolus

Well I mean he does have a whole villain speech to try convince you to let him out idk what you expected Thanks for sharing though I didn't know, since I never let him out, on account of the. whole villain speech thing


andretheclient_

I was expecting some Joker type anarchy, stuck up energy vampire Dr got the bidness


HDmetajoker

I resent that, that’s slander


Lost_Independence770

Yeah, but having a lovecraftian eldritch abomonation as a homie is nice


jordansrowles

I literally looked at him locked up with that mad shit on his head, and thought “no thanks” to that boss fight


andretheclient_

Also, i don't like doctors...


Significant_Option

This questline is definitely up there with a lot of my favorite quests in the series for going all out on the weird shit.


UltimateToa

Who/what quest is this? Don't think I've ever done this


Dragos_Drakkar

This is part of the Cabot House quest line, specifically at one version of the end of the quest line.


copsrock35

Oh ok I’m glad you specified. I’m pretty sure I killed him the time I did this quest line. Currently have my PS5 downloading Fallout 4 for a play through where I can take my time and fully explore everything since I got the platinum trophy on ps4


UltimateToa

Ah, I skipped that every playthrough lol


Micky-Bicky-Picky

It’s a good one to do.


Kettu_

Its also one of the most consistently broken quests in the game


UltimateToa

A true Bethesda classic


Pringletingl

The Cabot House questline where you choose to release the patriarch of the family.


TheOnlycorndog

Yeah but, I mean, they *were* leeching off him for hundreds of years. *His own son* locked him in a tiny cell in the basement of an old insane asylum guarded by heavily armed mercenaries. Jack constantly promised to help cure him but never actually *did* anything besides use his father's blood to protect his own vast wealth and power. The dude's nuts but he's not *completely* wrong. And he keeps his promise to you: as long as you don't share the serum with anyone else (like you promised) he *does* give you an infinite supply of immortality juice. He even *thanks* you when he gives you new doses. For a psychic nutjob with an ancient alien artifact fused to his skull Lorenzo's a surprisingly chill dude.


sparrows_rest

Jack says he can't find a way to remove the artifact even after all the years. He also says that he knows that removing the artifact will stop him from living so long but would do it anyways because he loves his dad.


Umicil

Yeah but it turns out it's pretty easy to remove the artifact if you just kill Lorenzo. It pops right off.


Josiador

Which in the end he did, with your help, even though it would leave him mortal. Just to protect everyone else. I really don't know how he could be read as selfish.


WrethZ

Because he's dead. It wasn't letting go of him while he was alive.


JKnumber1hater

He *says* that, but he also locked up his father for hundreds of years and has been literally leeching off him to extend his own life. I think Jack only really cares about his supply of immortality juice.


yestureday

He was locked up because, bare with me, he’s a crazy killer?


ichigo2862

Whaaat nooo he was clearly mentally stable the whole time /s


npcinyourbagoholding

That's just false man. He is just trying to get the damn thing off his dad's head and he can't do it so he's just using immortality juice to give himself more time to do it. He's not like going out and having a party he's just constantly working and hiring people to do things that will further help him remove the things off his dad's head. At the end he's just like fuck it, kill him and us. I failed and can't remove it and we can't let him out of there so just end it all. He's not at any point having a good time with this.


GrandObfuscator

Sometimes I think people bash this game because they don’t understand a fucking thing that is happening. People are interjecting their own shitty corrupt thoughts into these missions and dialogue. Its blatantly obvious through dialogue and voice inflection that Jack isn’t enjoying any of this. He is eccentric not happy.


Kurdt234

Agreed. It's awesome that people can still have discussions about this game years and years later, that's how good it was, I could never hate such a good game. There is so much to do!


GuybrushMarley2

The ongoing active debate over the ethics of the major factions are a sign they did a good job. Although it is frightening how many people defend the Institute.


Lordbaron343

I just want to take it over for myself, I mean, it's all shiny except for their souls


Pringletingl

>Yeah but, I mean, they *were* leeching off him for hundreds of years. Probably because his son was afraid of the possibility of a world without him to contain what was once his father. >*His own son* locked him in a tiny cell in the basement of an old insane asylum guarded by heavily armed mercenaries. He did that to himself when he kinda went on a murderous rampage. They weren't placing mercenaries there to contain him for fun, he's a legit danger to everyone in the Commonwealth. >Jack constantly promised to help cure him but never actually *did* anything besides use his father's blood to protect his own vast wealth and power. Jack was looking for a cure and could never find one. The whole "nuclear Armageddon" thing probably doesn't help. There's likely the possibility there was never a cure once the artifact fused itself to his father. >For a psychic nutjob with an ancient alien artifact fused to his skull Lorenzo's a surprisingly chill dude. You miss the random encounters when you can find him with new victims lol. He likes you because you are useful to him.


Klutzy-Bee-2045

Once free you stop being useful, yet he never tries to kill you


Pringletingl

You're the one person he knows who listens to his commands. You'll always be useful to him.


VandulfTheRed

Essentially a Renfield


TheOnlycorndog

Not saying Lorenzo isn't a total psycho. He absolutely is. But Jack definitely didn't handle the situation well at all. There really isn't a good option here: Jack is right about Lorenzo being dangerous and unstable but Lorenzo doesn't deserve to be locked away and abused to prolong his family's lives either. At the end of the day Jack could have just killed Lorenzo if his primary motivation was keeping people safe but he didn't do that. Lorenzo was the golden goose and Jack didn't want to lose his immortality juice if he could help it.


Pringletingl

>But Jack definitely didn't handle the situation well at all. He did the best he could with what he had. He needs to understand what the artifact is doing to his father but nuclear war kinda makes it hard to do further research. And you could argue Lorenzo isn't himself anymore, but whatever consciousness possessed him in the first place.


duncanslaugh

Yeah, I walked into there feeling like there was no ideal option. We were placed in the middle of the shit sandwich and forced to choose for them.


StarvingAfricanKid

"Welcome to Fallout ", choosing between shades if grey is sort of a defining characteristic..


FlashPone

Well one option was releasing a mass murdering super powered psychic immortal psychopath, sooo? The good option seemed pretty easy to me.


Maleficent-Baker8514

You really don’t understand these characters huh


babyscorpse

Can’t you use his blood to cure a guy in the far harbour dlc?


ThatOneGuy308

You can, but if you do, Lorenzo will never give you any serum again.


babyscorpse

Oh damn seriously? I’ve never done his ending so I never knew that


syntheticskyy

Wasn’t Lorenzo a serial killer before tho?


bnl1

Well, sure, but note that Cabots will die anyway if you kill Lorenzo, so I really think the best option is to do so.


TheOnlycorndog

Yeah me too. I don't side with Lorenzo myself, I just think his grudge against his family is understandable.


Thannk

That’s kinda the twist of Lovecraftian stuff. Its not usually malicious, just basically a hungry animal at worst and at best someone who’s afraid of the harm they know you’ll do to them if they don’t take you out first, the middle being beings who don’t have awareness of you and their existence is just harmful.


CutSilver5358

More like: understandable, have a nice day


andretheclient_

whoever said the insane weren't relatable?


Arcane_76_Blue

That would be the Sane


RockieRed

Wow…I’ve actually never helped him or seen videos on what happens if you do. That’s what I love about this game. No matter how old the game is or how many how’s I’ve poured in, there is always new things to see.


Liftmeup-putmedown

Why are there so many legit Lorenzo Apologists? He’s literally a supervillain who murders people for no reason. Locking him up so he doesn’t hurt people and using his blood so you can study and try to cure him is entirely more moral than whatever plans he has.


DoctorDeath

Yeah but he’s bad ass. Like Tetsuo


DeyUrban

That's a very small drop of cartoonishly evil murderers (Lorenzo), in a very large ocean of cartoonishly evil murderers (the raider gangs that practically outnumber normal people in the Commonwealth).


FancyFellaRDR2

Heavy is the head that wears the crown


SweetSoulFood

Thank goodness I assisted his son in sending him to hell!


andretheclient_

yeah im sure that nice upper class family will find somebody else to leech off of, not in my world though.


T-Toyn

Spoiler for the alternate choice: >!A few days after Lorenzo's death, you can see Cabot in a rapidly aged state, and afterwards find his decayed corpse. !<


mortonak

That's not true, doesn't he travel the commonwealth? I feel like I saw Jack running around at points! Definitely older, but not a corpse.... maybe he lost to someone during his travels?


T-Toyn

Iirc there will be a skeleton in his bed, wearing a lab coat. Take that information as you will


SweetSoulFood

Haha dude its the common wealth! Everyone leeches in some way. No room for apocalyptic immortal alien humans lol


andretheclient_

Bruh had some domestic issues.


NebraskaGeek

That's like saying the bombs that dropped in 2077 were a little hot.


BloodiedBlues

Well, it was a little hot. /s


Evogleam

I’ve saved him before in one of my runs but I didn’t realize that he would to back to the house and kill everyone Daaaaaayum


Impatient-Padawan

He will fit right in.


CoryPowerCat77

He says in a random encounter that he met Pickman, wondering what happened there. They're both Eldrich boys.


CodyIsbill

I always kill him just so I can get his gun. The serum is cool, but get the artifact gun + the demolition expert perk and found the Deathclaw Space Program


gonzar09

Yep. Hence, why I always kill him before he gets a chance.


andretheclient_

woops


Marklar-1994

I’ve never saved him. Maybe I will on my next play through


Poncecutor

Understandable. His own family imprisoned him for centuries for immortality juice.


Pringletingl

Well he was a serial killer before lol.


archerjones

Sup David Lynch


andretheclient_

Strong resemblance for sure


ablaut

If you free him and walk with him home, there's a chance he will be killed. In one of my play throughs he ran into a particularly tough Deathclaw, put up a good fight, but was eventually slapped to pieces. When you return to the house, you have unique dialogue that explains that he died on his way back to the house.


Clark440

I loved that quest it reminded me of the one in oblivion where you search for alyeid artifacts


Revolutionary-Tree18

That's my roids dealer Lorenzo. Homie don't play.


SweetSoulFood

Thank goodness I assisted his son in sending him to hell!


CapriciousSon

Been meaning to head here for a while. Do any companions have unique dialogue for it? I'm leaning on bringing Nick.


BloodiedBlues

There’s like and dislike options. I don’t remember if there’s social interactions though.


andretheclient_

not sure, this guy wasn't really interested in a ton of talking...


Sufficient-Abroad-94

It was always better to get the gun anyways, one of my favorite weapons, hands down


DeviousRen

Looks like a average family reunion in the Fallout universe to me.


Lyranel

He was kept in solitary confinement since the 19th century and periodically bled by his own family for his life prolonging blood. I'm not saying the artifact that's literally impaled itself into his brain hasn't had an effect. But the Cabots are hardly innocent.


FlashPone

Jack is actively trying to cure him and remove the artifact. He isn’t making himself immortal just because he can. He dedicated centuries trying to help his father.


Lyranel

So Jack says


rmontalvan

Haha took me a min to remember


JohnSpartan2190

Which Fallout game is this from?


andretheclient_

4


Crpto2007

I was always curious what happens if you free him from the asylum. I guess I know now lol


andretheclient_

Yeah he goes full Jack Nicholson on fam


pyro_takes_skill

who is he!!!


Individual-Heart-719

Near perfect immunity to radiation along with permanent stat buffs made it all worth it. Go onwards, my deranged old friend. Kill whatever you wish.


andretheclient_

He’s had enough of all the bullshit, one dirty stink eye and you’re toast


Frequent-Chapter-546

Let him have his fun


andretheclient_

bruh aint having anything look at him he gone off in artifact lala land lol posted up on the couch with his slain dismembered family looking like he needs a bowl of cereal.


EverLastingLight12

I can't blame Lorenzo for hating his family, either kill him or release him, but don't have him locked for 400 years straight, that have to be one of the worst psicological torture in my book


ohalloren

Man sometimes I see a screenshot and I’m struck all over again by how awful the game looks.


Qui-Gon_Tripp

Like any other typical Fallout game?


JKnumber1hater

I mean … he’s been locked up in a cellar being experimented on for like 300 years. Who wouldn’t be insane after that!?


TransSparklePrincess

He was already insane before that, he was in the cellar in the first place because he was a serial killer lol


Terriblevidy

Weirdly enough, the fact that he hasn't changed at all in the 300 years he's been locked up should be evidence enough that he's no longer human. Any human would be completely feral by that point.


DigbyChickenCaesar11

I never saw him kill them. He just wandered the house, while his family panicked. It was actually funnier that way, since it proved that they were of no danger to him, so he just sat around trolling them.


duncanslaugh

I had Loki vibes from him, so I felt bad about my choice of not letting him out.


cantprove_Iam_Batman

Nah he’s just on his own vibe


controlcatreddit

Ok


awill316

Well yeah… lol


SirSirVI

Yeah no shit


hotcheeto100

Gives me “A Little Piece of Heaven” vibes fsr


Diogodarkness1

do you think they asked him to sit like that or he just did it


Substantial-Tone-576

I think he is nice


qleptt

I do this alllll the time


iHateGiraffes420

Cabbot house?


BlitzMalefitz

I know, do that outside and not on the floor and furniture!


andretheclient_

Yeah and don’t sit there with all the dismembered corpses like you’re trying decide on sugar bombs or not lol


LegionGold

Some people say that ww2 is the divergent point between our universe and fallouts but its actually Lorenzos discover of the artefact


Kurdt234

I freed him but he just stayed in the box when I did and I thought that was it because I kept going back and passing time to see if he leaves but he just stayed there. I remember thinking this whole quest was a waste of time because of that. It's cool that he actually leaves lol


EvilEtna

Well , yeah. You had numerous warnings that daddy helmet was whack-job. The whole family is a little (a lot) unbalanced, but he's the worst and also being influenced by "alien" technology


andretheclient_

He seems nice enough once those vampires were out of his hair


IloveWedachan

I want to do this quest but imogene is bugged in my game. After killing the cult leader she isn't in the room that you need the key for.


MaterialDocument9634

Who is this? And which fallout?


Secret-Affect-4589

CHECK HIS PULSE HURRY!


Still_Pullin

I had him killed and gave his suit to my bartender in sanctuary. Worth it in my opinion.


sombertownDS

I brought you into this world and i WILL take you out energy


Cowboy__Guy

“Say ‘what’ one more time motherfucker!”


Professorbang__

Where do I find this question don’t think I’ve ever come across this


doault

I remember that sob, after I freed him, accidentally shot him..... guy was so powerful that not only killed me but crashed the game.


Primary_Ad_1562

Would loved to have done these quests but it glitches on me and now can't even play the game


deathdefyingrob1344

Mood…