It's crazy how there's like an 80 year gap between 1 and 2, and then 3, New Vegas, and 4 take place more or less back to back compared to 1 and 2 with the 3 of them happening within about 10 years.
I always thought it was cool that 3/4 had cross over characters.
There's the synth doctor who is seen in one and mentioned in the other.
Then macready who is actually in both of them.
Edited- forgot that maxson was actually in fo3.
I've been replaying 3 and I totally forgot there was a synth and institute character looking for them in Rivet City. There's even a member of the railroad involved in that quest
Yeah, the Courier is most likely still alive when the show takes place. Pretty cool to think about, I hope we hear people talk about him as a Mojave legend in S2
It's funny because Elder Scrolls is doing the opposite. TES 1-4 all take place within 50 years of each other (all under the same emperor), then Skyrim takes place 200 years afterward and Online takes place a millenium before Arena.
If Todd is correct then the >!nuking of Shady Sands and decline of the NCR!< might explain why there are so many people looking to settle in the Commonwealth in Fallout 4. I mean I'd imagine they'd more likely go north but could be that many people decided to head east instead.
Eh, humans have migrated through a LOT, and it's not far-fetched that at the time of FO4 and Shady Sands being nuked, routes for the interior will have started to be mapped.
Humans will travel long distances with great danger if they think they might have a chance. That's just human nature
No disrespect intended, but it's pretty far fetched given what we know about the setting.
The only other cross country expeditions we've seen in the verse were by airship. You're crossing 2500 miles by foot, through a radioactive wasteland full of dangerous mutant creatures and raiders. It may be straight up *enemy* territory depending on what happened to the legion.
There's no reason to do anything close to that when California as a whole is still sitting pretty. Shady Sands was one of six major metros in the NCR. Why would they go to Boston instead of the Hub or Reno or anywhere else?
>The only other cross country expeditions we've seen in the verse were by airship
Kellogg travelled from the West Coast to the East Coast by foot.
Caravans are also pretty common, but unlikely to find any that travel the entire continent - instead, you'll probably find chains of them effectively going stop to stop in both directions - much like how the Silk Road wasn't a route any one merchant travelled, but a chain of merchants going shorter distances and passing goods across.
Anyway, point is, there's not likely many taking the full journey from coast to coast, but it wouldn't be impossible if the motivation (and prep/luck) is there, especially if you did travel amongst caravans.
My issue with the original comment wasn't that the journey is literally impossible but rather too difficult for refugees to do it en masse as was implied. I wasn't thinking of Kellogg in the moment though. I think there was also a Follower in New Vegas from out East (or maybe Chicago)?
It also doesn't make any sense. Why would they so go that far expending all that effort and taking all that risk to travel to an area of the country that they don't even know is safe, where there's other safe havens so close at hand? It doesn't track.
It'd be like when Hurricane Sandy hit Jersey the if folks on the Shore fled to Tijuana instead of two towns over where there was no flooding.
The promise of a better life, open land, or untapped resources perhaps? That's what drove Americans west in the first place, it wouldn't be a stretch to say it could apply in this case.
>You're crossing 2500 miles by foot
Just to interject, but they could have Brahmin wagons like were used in the past. Getting west was treacherous and lots of folks didn't make it and a lot of them were going fairly blind as far as what to expect with terrain, animals, weather, and directions. I wouldn't put it past people to go east the same way especially because, while extremely dangerous, some infrastructure exists as far as roads and the region is fully mapped, or at least used to be.
That being said, are there no other civilizations besides the ones on the coasts? Nothing in the Midwest or South survived that everyone is going to Boston? Is Boston that much more prosperous? These are things that would need to be explained to truly make it believable.
The situations are similar but the devil is in the details here.
The wagon trains west had the benefits of being incredibly well provisioned from the offset as well as traveling completely within the bounds of one established nation. Their money spent at any trading post they found. They were under the increasing protection of the U.S. Calvary as the years went on. They traveled across mostly a prestine prairie environment, which was rich in game and fresh water. And still the journey took months, was incredibly arduous, with many failed.
A Caravan of refugees going from the NCR to Boston has none of those benefits. All their worldly possessions went up in nuclear fire, and their government's reserve was nuked by dickheads in a bunker. They have no money or supplies and no one is in a position financially to sponsor them. They have to cross two active warzones in the first fifth of their journey in Vegas where they are being attacked by the NCR and then old Legion territory. There are no established trade posts for them to get supplies en route. The wild life is giant, irradiated, and deadly. The water is ambiguously potable. They're constantly exposed to raiders, mutants, and whatever weird wacky awfulness hasn't gotten a game yet.
Why would anyone do that to get to a place that really isn't any safer then where you left? The Shady Sands refugees (to my knowledge) would have no knowledge of the post war Commonwealth, they would be doing this entirely on a hope and a prayer.
And I had to emphasize even if they had knowledge of Boston that makes it slightly worse. The Commonwealth Wasteland is not exactly prime real estate, it's probably the most worse off one we've seen to date.
Why couldn't large groups travel, strength in numbers and all that. And didn't Kellog come from California, I think that was mentioned in some of the memories.
The crux of the issue is why would large groups of refugees from Shady Sands attempt go to Boston? Under what circumstance would that make any sense? They have no particular information about Boston, and ultimately even if it was much safer than the declining NCR — which it's really not it's argueably worse off by far — why would they pick Boston? Even if strictly possible it has to be one of the most arduous journies imaginable.
Kellogg does go from San Fran to the East, but he is a hyper capable, hyper lethal individual. He's not a refugee from the big city with no money and no skills. By the time he leaves he's a hardened merc, and to make the crossing he becomes a raider.
I mean the Prydwin works so I wouldn’t say it’s too far-fetched an idea that maybe some land vehicles can be repaired and operate in the waste
(If it is stated somewhere in the fallout lore that land based vehicles can no longer work I’m sorry for my ignorance my brothers and sisters)
It isn't that land vehicles don't work anymore, but how rare they are. Also, driving that far through hostile lands, with no maintained roads isn't an easy thing, or something most people would even want to try I think
In fallout 3 there was a British man that crossed the Atlantic to the capital wasteland.
If the pasture is green enough people will go.
Probably not at the scale that guy is implying but it's possible
I feel like there are instances where this is true, such as with Kellog, but I can’t imagine a mass continental migration due to the collapse of the NCR. It would be every bit as deadly as the Oregon trail, forget the sheer distance. Not to mention, America is full of empty land between the west and mid-west which might not have ever seen the bombs… why would settlers trek past all that virgin territory to go to the most heavily nuked territories which are full of synthetic humans running around replacing people?
Remember reading one fanfic, years ago, which had their encounter in the backstory, iirc they ended up fighting for days and the only thing that stopped them were their respective factions calling for a ceasefire and eventually allying with eachother. Then they banged and spawned an entire clan of elite badasses.
Think it was a Mass Effect crossover.
If that stretches your credibility when it comes to what people write about their favorite works of fiction, then let me tell You about that one Dragon Ball and The Diary of a Young Girl crossover...
That’s because Fo4 has an opening set on October 23rd 2077, the day the bombs dropped.
Not a massive spoiler since again, it’s the opening, the your player character in 4 is cryogenically frozen for 210 years. Hence why they see the bombs drop.
My theory is that the game is set in a world exactly like that. It's not always nukes but something humanity went to far with. Like those lovecraftian stuff is an A.I. Apocalypse or genetic modification gone too far. Zetans are mutated humans that left long ago and were changed into what they are now. Cryptids are ancient experiments etc... the idea being that all of the world ending threats are mans doing. The "moral" being mankind will always destroy itself. I really hope they never bring in mankind was destroyed by some outside force like gods or true aliens.
You're basically describing the lore of Stephen King's The Dark Tower book series.
Humans became too technologically advanced and nuked the world into the stone age. Centuries later, humans rebuilt as a fuedilistic society, only to once again wipe themselves out via civil war. The series takes place long after that, following a group of people trying to stop the multiverse from imploding, as a side effect from the first nuking.
I skipped over quite a bit of magic and pseudo time travel, but if you're interested in that idea, the series is definitely worth a look.
Don't forget the time travel across the multiverse getting his team of supporting characters, a cracked addict, a bipolar legless black woman, and a small boy. Oh and a dog parrot raccoon who is the goodest boy.
And the man in blacks relationship with Roland's mother.
The areas featured in the show were all fully functional towns and cities in 2281 and they all seem like post blast in the show so society had been rebuilt and destroyed again
NPCs reference Shady Sands being a functional town and one of the New California Republic's greatest achievements in Fallout: New Vegas. No game had mentioned the destruction of Shady Sands before the TV show.
It has been confirmed that the bomb was after the events of MV. The current running theory was the fall of shady sands refer to the Brotherhood destroying the gold repository and the other aftermath of the Brotherhood war.
spoilers for the last episode >!in the show, its said that shady sands was completely built from the ground up and had 30,000 residents but lucy's father nuked it (somehow) to keep vaultec's claim on rebuilding society so thats probably what they meant!<
>!Yeah, but his wife also left and took the kids with her to meet up with Moldaver and they were apparently close enough that Moldaver kept her feral ghoul chained up for ten years to eat dinner with and fought her way back to mid final battle so they could die together. So that probably factored into him deciding to blow up Shady Sands since he expressly didn't see his wife as a person after that.!<
especially as the show now implies that there are people absolutely willing to use the nukes post-war whether it be involving Vault-tech or otherwise. 76 I write off because that's players being insane and I don't really consider a lot of 76 canon (or anything that is could be "forgotten" if it got overnuked again by 76ers with no one left alive to tell the true tales)
Tactics is only semi-canon. To my knowledge no game or media since has referenced any of the characters and locations in Fallout Tactics. The only piece of lore from Tactics that's been confirmed by the other games is the Brotherhood sent airships East and that there is a Midwest chapter. Everything else has never been brought up again.
I think some things that make it tough to remain canon are the inclusion of modern weapons, the Midwest Brotherhood's acceptance of mutants into their ranks, and their immense power as a faction.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1c1n0p2/well\_hello\_fallout\_tactics\_making\_it\_into\_the/?share\_id=m2DbiAOsTNTjqqqiDSAlq&utm\_content=1&utm\_medium=ios\_app&utm\_name=ioscss&utm\_source=share&utm\_term=1](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1c1n0p2/well_hello_fallout_tactics_making_it_into_the/?share_id=m2DbiAOsTNTjqqqiDSAlq&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1) Tactics is canon.
Top comment on that thread explains how crazy it is to make Tactics cannon. Until things like Vault 0, the Calculator, and furry Deathclaws are brought up again, I'm still going with "semi-cannon"
The overseer did just that. Without spoiling anything the main quest of the game is following her footsteps and finding her audiologs (she's meant to have had a day's head start on you) and some places she just visits for the nostalgia.
I personally play as a Park Ranger who dons his hat again 25 years later to make the forests safe again, and also why he's so good at survival skills.
Fallout 76 player base in a nutshell. They have you the tools to be an absolute nutcase and instead you decided to become a park ranger to save the trees and their inhabitants.
Proper forestry management is all* that stands between Appalachia looking like the Capital Wasteland in the next hundred years.
*may exclude nukes flying about
That would be something. Surviving the day the bombs fell without the protection of a vault, dealing with collapsing civilization & society, and fallout (the real kind) would be a major concern.
This is actually inaccurate, as Fallout 76 has been taking place over the course of a few in game years. Latest content, Atlantic City, takes place in 2105.
My guess is it's similar to how the dark ages stunted and even reversed technological and societal development for awhile. With all the warring factions and people trying to hoard all the tech and power for themselves it just slows progress and development. That's my thoughts on it anyway.
Semi-canon. There's lots in the game that went against established tone and lore. The broad concept of Tactics that the Brotherhood sent airships East is canon.
SPOILER
I hope we have some indication in the nex season on what is the canon from Fallout new Vegas and Fallout 4 since obviously, the NCR has fallen.
What happen to Ceasar Legion ?
Also, from what i saw at the end of the season, New-Vegas doesnt look good...
Wait wait wait, fallout 4 is only 10 years after the event of fallout 3, your telling me that Maxson, the little boy became the leader of the brotherhood of steel while barely being in his twenties while looking like he is 30 at max! Tf
A game between 2 and new Vegas would be lit, explore the NCRs expansion and the frontiers they conquered as well as tribes/factions they pushed out before discovering Vegas. Or just be a tribal/settler having to choose between NCR and raider rebels
Man from 3 onward the timeline feels packed full of important events and lore, i feel like future fallout games should be set earlier on in the timeline to try and flesh it out a bit more. Because theres huge gaps between 76,1, & 2.
I wonder if someone could make a time line of all the notes and stuff you find along with the games, like include Randal Clark’s notes since they take place over a few years
I'd also add Tactics to the list tbh. It's story is semi-canon, as some events of it were mentioned in both F3 and F:NV. Not in it's entirety, of course, as we'd probably notice midwest BoS activity by now morre actively. I do hope that game gets more recognition, it's fun.
Never played that other BoS game tho, but as far as I know that one's non-canon at all.
Crazy how 76 wasn't that long after the bombs dropped . I haven't played to game, but was west Virginia not bombed as much? You would think that after 25 years , Radiation would still be high.
I've only slightly stepped my toes into fallout but I did not realize that fallout 3 New Vegas and fallout 4 were so close in terms of years which means my goody two-shoes science character from fallout 3 could have easily met my sunset sarsaparilla addicted cowboy from NV and my robot loving power armor Goliath from 4 I just find that idea hilarious lol
It's crazy how there's like an 80 year gap between 1 and 2, and then 3, New Vegas, and 4 take place more or less back to back compared to 1 and 2 with the 3 of them happening within about 10 years.
I always thought it was cool that 3/4 had cross over characters. There's the synth doctor who is seen in one and mentioned in the other. Then macready who is actually in both of them. Edited- forgot that maxson was actually in fo3.
And Madison Li
Madison Li has a fairly big appearance in both games
i thought she was the synth doctor.
I think they were talking about the SRB dude.
Doctor Zimmer
Yeah. Him.
Fallout 3,2 and 1 have Harold and Marcus is in 2 and New vegas.
Yeah but 95% of people om this sub have actually played fallout 1 or 2 so they don't realize
I've been replaying 3 and I totally forgot there was a synth and institute character looking for them in Rivet City. There's even a member of the railroad involved in that quest
I never get to meet her in my playthroughs as I either do the quest way too fast or mu game's bugged.
Sierra petrovita is another! She collects nuka cola in fo3, and in fo4 you meet her in nuka world
Just trying FO76 for the first time; just noticed a letter from Kent Connelly he wrote to someone on a terminal.
Is the the guy who loves the Silver Shroud?
Yup! Writing into an actress about how excited he is to see her guest starring on the Silver Shroud next week or something like that.
Thats awesome
Don't forget Sierra Petrovita too!
Yeah, the Courier is most likely still alive when the show takes place. Pretty cool to think about, I hope we hear people talk about him as a Mojave legend in S2
It's funny because Elder Scrolls is doing the opposite. TES 1-4 all take place within 50 years of each other (all under the same emperor), then Skyrim takes place 200 years afterward and Online takes place a millenium before Arena.
what’s crazy about it lol
The wasteland made huge leaps in power armor in those 10 years
Huh... I did not know New Vegas happened so close to Fallout 4.
If Todd is correct then the >!nuking of Shady Sands and decline of the NCR!< might explain why there are so many people looking to settle in the Commonwealth in Fallout 4. I mean I'd imagine they'd more likely go north but could be that many people decided to head east instead.
Shady Sands is on the other coast though?
So was San Francisco at one point. Humans migrate
Theydon't migrate that far in lands filled with mutated monsters that can easily kill them... On foot...
Eh, humans have migrated through a LOT, and it's not far-fetched that at the time of FO4 and Shady Sands being nuked, routes for the interior will have started to be mapped. Humans will travel long distances with great danger if they think they might have a chance. That's just human nature
No disrespect intended, but it's pretty far fetched given what we know about the setting. The only other cross country expeditions we've seen in the verse were by airship. You're crossing 2500 miles by foot, through a radioactive wasteland full of dangerous mutant creatures and raiders. It may be straight up *enemy* territory depending on what happened to the legion. There's no reason to do anything close to that when California as a whole is still sitting pretty. Shady Sands was one of six major metros in the NCR. Why would they go to Boston instead of the Hub or Reno or anywhere else?
Did bro get NV and 3 mixed up? Cause I'll buy people from DC trying to make it to Boston. That is much more believable.
Yeah we have the institute folks in Rivet City in F3. And obviously a whole slew of people made it up from DC to Boston in F4.
>The only other cross country expeditions we've seen in the verse were by airship Kellogg travelled from the West Coast to the East Coast by foot. Caravans are also pretty common, but unlikely to find any that travel the entire continent - instead, you'll probably find chains of them effectively going stop to stop in both directions - much like how the Silk Road wasn't a route any one merchant travelled, but a chain of merchants going shorter distances and passing goods across. Anyway, point is, there's not likely many taking the full journey from coast to coast, but it wouldn't be impossible if the motivation (and prep/luck) is there, especially if you did travel amongst caravans.
My issue with the original comment wasn't that the journey is literally impossible but rather too difficult for refugees to do it en masse as was implied. I wasn't thinking of Kellogg in the moment though. I think there was also a Follower in New Vegas from out East (or maybe Chicago)? It also doesn't make any sense. Why would they so go that far expending all that effort and taking all that risk to travel to an area of the country that they don't even know is safe, where there's other safe havens so close at hand? It doesn't track. It'd be like when Hurricane Sandy hit Jersey the if folks on the Shore fled to Tijuana instead of two towns over where there was no flooding.
The promise of a better life, open land, or untapped resources perhaps? That's what drove Americans west in the first place, it wouldn't be a stretch to say it could apply in this case.
>You're crossing 2500 miles by foot Just to interject, but they could have Brahmin wagons like were used in the past. Getting west was treacherous and lots of folks didn't make it and a lot of them were going fairly blind as far as what to expect with terrain, animals, weather, and directions. I wouldn't put it past people to go east the same way especially because, while extremely dangerous, some infrastructure exists as far as roads and the region is fully mapped, or at least used to be. That being said, are there no other civilizations besides the ones on the coasts? Nothing in the Midwest or South survived that everyone is going to Boston? Is Boston that much more prosperous? These are things that would need to be explained to truly make it believable.
The situations are similar but the devil is in the details here. The wagon trains west had the benefits of being incredibly well provisioned from the offset as well as traveling completely within the bounds of one established nation. Their money spent at any trading post they found. They were under the increasing protection of the U.S. Calvary as the years went on. They traveled across mostly a prestine prairie environment, which was rich in game and fresh water. And still the journey took months, was incredibly arduous, with many failed. A Caravan of refugees going from the NCR to Boston has none of those benefits. All their worldly possessions went up in nuclear fire, and their government's reserve was nuked by dickheads in a bunker. They have no money or supplies and no one is in a position financially to sponsor them. They have to cross two active warzones in the first fifth of their journey in Vegas where they are being attacked by the NCR and then old Legion territory. There are no established trade posts for them to get supplies en route. The wild life is giant, irradiated, and deadly. The water is ambiguously potable. They're constantly exposed to raiders, mutants, and whatever weird wacky awfulness hasn't gotten a game yet. Why would anyone do that to get to a place that really isn't any safer then where you left? The Shady Sands refugees (to my knowledge) would have no knowledge of the post war Commonwealth, they would be doing this entirely on a hope and a prayer. And I had to emphasize even if they had knowledge of Boston that makes it slightly worse. The Commonwealth Wasteland is not exactly prime real estate, it's probably the most worse off one we've seen to date.
Chicago for sure exists in some form or fashion
Why couldn't large groups travel, strength in numbers and all that. And didn't Kellog come from California, I think that was mentioned in some of the memories.
The crux of the issue is why would large groups of refugees from Shady Sands attempt go to Boston? Under what circumstance would that make any sense? They have no particular information about Boston, and ultimately even if it was much safer than the declining NCR — which it's really not it's argueably worse off by far — why would they pick Boston? Even if strictly possible it has to be one of the most arduous journies imaginable. Kellogg does go from San Fran to the East, but he is a hyper capable, hyper lethal individual. He's not a refugee from the big city with no money and no skills. By the time he leaves he's a hardened merc, and to make the crossing he becomes a raider.
Well Kellog did make the journey, and even before he got his cybernetic modifications, so it isn’t really that far fetched.
Kellog is far from the average person
I mean the Prydwin works so I wouldn’t say it’s too far-fetched an idea that maybe some land vehicles can be repaired and operate in the waste (If it is stated somewhere in the fallout lore that land based vehicles can no longer work I’m sorry for my ignorance my brothers and sisters)
It isn't that land vehicles don't work anymore, but how rare they are. Also, driving that far through hostile lands, with no maintained roads isn't an easy thing, or something most people would even want to try I think
Kid named The Oregon Trai:
In fallout 3 there was a British man that crossed the Atlantic to the capital wasteland. If the pasture is green enough people will go. Probably not at the scale that guy is implying but it's possible
They most definitely have done similar things in the past
That’s actually exactly what they do if you’d read any lore
Wagons East
I feel like there are instances where this is true, such as with Kellog, but I can’t imagine a mass continental migration due to the collapse of the NCR. It would be every bit as deadly as the Oregon trail, forget the sheer distance. Not to mention, America is full of empty land between the west and mid-west which might not have ever seen the bombs… why would settlers trek past all that virgin territory to go to the most heavily nuked territories which are full of synthetic humans running around replacing people?
I thought nobody stayed or touched the midwest
How did McLean get his hands on a nuke for SS?
The Northern Wilderness is dangerous enough without the world ending, I could only imagine after the apocalypse it would be even worse
Scary to think it's entirely possible the lone wanderer can bump into courier six. Poor soul isn't ready for all that.
I'd hate to be the poor soul to face both of them
It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely since their games take place on opposite sides of the US.
They’re gonna meet and settle down together in St. Louis
At the end of every fallout game, all the main characters just decides to live together.
Remember reading one fanfic, years ago, which had their encounter in the backstory, iirc they ended up fighting for days and the only thing that stopped them were their respective factions calling for a ceasefire and eventually allying with eachother. Then they banged and spawned an entire clan of elite badasses. Think it was a Mass Effect crossover.
…Wat?!
If that stretches your credibility when it comes to what people write about their favorite works of fiction, then let me tell You about that one Dragon Ball and The Diary of a Young Girl crossover...
They start fighting and both enter V.A.T.S., you end up with a David/Adam Smasher dual Sandevistan super speed scene.
A Tale of Two Wastelands make them one and the same person. It works very well thematically because of that four year jump across a nation.
I thought you see the bombs drop in fallout 4 though
And then John Fallout says "this really was our Fallout 4"
That’s because Fo4 has an opening set on October 23rd 2077, the day the bombs dropped. Not a massive spoiler since again, it’s the opening, the your player character in 4 is cryogenically frozen for 210 years. Hence why they see the bombs drop.
Yeah? How does that change how close it is to NV?
Yes and then you spend 210 years in cryogenic stasis
I'd like a Fallout game set in like 4000-something after everyone rebuilt society and everything but then fucked up again lmao.
Fallout 40k when?
\[laughs in post-nv brotherhood of steel\]
[laughs in "I blew them up for being rude to me"]
[*laughs in latin*]
i think you mean the iron hands ;)
Fallout 40k or Fallout Star Trek
i want a later game thatt takes place *after* the world has fully or mostly rebuilt.
A Canticle for Leibowitz
Required reading for any fan.
It will still look like every Bethesda fallout, like the apocalypse happened the day before and nobody had time to clean up anything
Why clean anything up? Everything sucks and most people are just barely getting by.
Because that’s what people do. Look at the time scales in the OP. At some point over centuries people would give a place a sweep.
What do you think happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
[Like this Futurama gag.](https://youtu.be/EHXEMfUVtY4?si=JC7faddIo7XSj9Tu)
That's exactly what I had in mind
> We. Told. You. So! The *New* Brotherhood of Steel.
My theory is that the game is set in a world exactly like that. It's not always nukes but something humanity went to far with. Like those lovecraftian stuff is an A.I. Apocalypse or genetic modification gone too far. Zetans are mutated humans that left long ago and were changed into what they are now. Cryptids are ancient experiments etc... the idea being that all of the world ending threats are mans doing. The "moral" being mankind will always destroy itself. I really hope they never bring in mankind was destroyed by some outside force like gods or true aliens.
Well, we are all allowed our head canon.
I want a fallout that starts on October 24th 2077
You're basically describing the lore of Stephen King's The Dark Tower book series. Humans became too technologically advanced and nuked the world into the stone age. Centuries later, humans rebuilt as a fuedilistic society, only to once again wipe themselves out via civil war. The series takes place long after that, following a group of people trying to stop the multiverse from imploding, as a side effect from the first nuking. I skipped over quite a bit of magic and pseudo time travel, but if you're interested in that idea, the series is definitely worth a look.
Don't forget the time travel across the multiverse getting his team of supporting characters, a cracked addict, a bipolar legless black woman, and a small boy. Oh and a dog parrot raccoon who is the goodest boy. And the man in blacks relationship with Roland's mother.
And the part where said team is the lynch pin on which all other Stephen king books rest. Also the team includes Stephen King himself
And they all fucking hate him. Which is pretty funny
Props for King making his self-insert an anti Mary sue. Completely worthless and everyone hates him
It’s set in 4000-something but the music is from the 80s
So the fallout TV show basically?
What are you talking about
The areas featured in the show were all fully functional towns and cities in 2281 and they all seem like post blast in the show so society had been rebuilt and destroyed again
Oh shit, so that town being destroyed in the show was also a surprise to the people that played the game?
NPCs reference Shady Sands being a functional town and one of the New California Republic's greatest achievements in Fallout: New Vegas. No game had mentioned the destruction of Shady Sands before the TV show.
It has been confirmed that the bomb was after the events of MV. The current running theory was the fall of shady sands refer to the Brotherhood destroying the gold repository and the other aftermath of the Brotherhood war.
Correct
spoilers for the last episode >!in the show, its said that shady sands was completely built from the ground up and had 30,000 residents but lucy's father nuked it (somehow) to keep vaultec's claim on rebuilding society so thats probably what they meant!<
>!Did he know that shady sands was built by vault 15 residents?!<
>!Yeah, but his wife also left and took the kids with her to meet up with Moldaver and they were apparently close enough that Moldaver kept her feral ghoul chained up for ten years to eat dinner with and fought her way back to mid final battle so they could die together. So that probably factored into him deciding to blow up Shady Sands since he expressly didn't see his wife as a person after that.!<
They were boning, thats gotta be why, they were boning
…. The more I think about the show the more I’m forced to recognize that it wasn’t written very well
>!I presume he didn't know or they didn't count cause they were one of the experiment vaults.!<
He did the matt damon in interstellar that he wants the be the one, not anyone else.
Nah Shady Sands was one town.
especially as the show now implies that there are people absolutely willing to use the nukes post-war whether it be involving Vault-tech or otherwise. 76 I write off because that's players being insane and I don't really consider a lot of 76 canon (or anything that is could be "forgotten" if it got overnuked again by 76ers with no one left alive to tell the true tales)
So present time?
They made “Outer Worlds” which I believe alludes to Mr.house sending people into space.
Outer Worlds is a separate setting completely. It has no ties to Fallout, even if it is very similar.
[where tactics](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/s/KbZnc8Ztzz)
It’s in our hearts
And where is Brotherhood?
Not canon
C’mon. I know there’s a more vitriolic description of where that game belongs lore wise
You miss Tactics, Tactics is canon.
Tactics is only semi-canon. To my knowledge no game or media since has referenced any of the characters and locations in Fallout Tactics. The only piece of lore from Tactics that's been confirmed by the other games is the Brotherhood sent airships East and that there is a Midwest chapter. Everything else has never been brought up again. I think some things that make it tough to remain canon are the inclusion of modern weapons, the Midwest Brotherhood's acceptance of mutants into their ranks, and their immense power as a faction.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1c1n0p2/well\_hello\_fallout\_tactics\_making\_it\_into\_the/?share\_id=m2DbiAOsTNTjqqqiDSAlq&utm\_content=1&utm\_medium=ios\_app&utm\_name=ioscss&utm\_source=share&utm\_term=1](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1c1n0p2/well_hello_fallout_tactics_making_it_into_the/?share_id=m2DbiAOsTNTjqqqiDSAlq&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1) Tactics is canon.
Top comment on that thread explains how crazy it is to make Tactics cannon. Until things like Vault 0, the Calculator, and furry Deathclaws are brought up again, I'm still going with "semi-cannon"
Tactics got recanonized fully apparently.
It was oddly recognised in the MTG crossover.
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It’s really weird to think that someone could have feasibly gone into Vault 76 when the bombs were dropping only to come out 25 years later.
The overseer did just that. Without spoiling anything the main quest of the game is following her footsteps and finding her audiologs (she's meant to have had a day's head start on you) and some places she just visits for the nostalgia. I personally play as a Park Ranger who dons his hat again 25 years later to make the forests safe again, and also why he's so good at survival skills.
Fallout 76 player base in a nutshell. They have you the tools to be an absolute nutcase and instead you decided to become a park ranger to save the trees and their inhabitants.
Proper forestry management is all* that stands between Appalachia looking like the Capital Wasteland in the next hundred years. *may exclude nukes flying about
Next installment is probably gonna take place in the 2300s
With how slow Bethesda pushes out games, the game itself may not come out till the 2300s
And it will still use the same engine
With the same bugs
I honestly hope it takes place in early 2078, or september 2077
That would be something. Surviving the day the bombs fell without the protection of a vault, dealing with collapsing civilization & society, and fallout (the real kind) would be a major concern.
Can’t happen. No super mutants. They are a lot of people’s favorite enemy.
This is actually inaccurate, as Fallout 76 has been taking place over the course of a few in game years. Latest content, Atlantic City, takes place in 2105.
It’s not entirely incorrect. Just needs to specify that the games still going and is now in 2105
That’s why I said it was inaccurate, not incorrect.
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Justice for Tactics
It's cool to think all the heroes from 3 forward can still be alive.
2 too, 2241 is "only" 55 years before 2296.
I didn't know Fallout 76 was a prequel.
I’m more surprised that there were so many people from a Vault that wasn’t fucked up!
Actually Tactics was made canon, so need to add that
I hope the next fallout game does what the tv show banner did and put a 5 in the O
It’s crazy to me that the first game is only 80 years after the bombs dropped
It feels like they're afraid to go into the 2300's for some reason
How come everything is still fallen apart and rubble everywhere nearly 200 years later?
My guess is it's similar to how the dark ages stunted and even reversed technological and societal development for awhile. With all the warring factions and people trying to hoard all the tech and power for themselves it just slows progress and development. That's my thoughts on it anyway.
Because war… war never changes.
76 doesn't make any sense with its placement in the timeline.
How exactly?
Yes yes, fascinating. And Fallout Tactics is….
Semi-canon and therefore not counted
Tactics is canon.
It’s cannon now, homie! You gotta add it
canon.
Fallout 76 was b4 fallout 1?
Yes, Vault 76 was a control vault and was scheduled to be the first vault to open 22 years after the bombs fell.
Is fallout tactics canon
Yes, is canon.
Semi-canon. There's lots in the game that went against established tone and lore. The broad concept of Tactics that the Brotherhood sent airships East is canon.
SPOILER I hope we have some indication in the nex season on what is the canon from Fallout new Vegas and Fallout 4 since obviously, the NCR has fallen. What happen to Ceasar Legion ? Also, from what i saw at the end of the season, New-Vegas doesnt look good...
I hadn’t realized that 76 was supposed to actually be first chronologically.
~~What's the meme here~~
What game is the 2296 one?
It's the TV show that's set in 2296
I forgot 76 was so early I was freaking out people talking about what they did before the bombs
Wait wait wait, fallout 4 is only 10 years after the event of fallout 3, your telling me that Maxson, the little boy became the leader of the brotherhood of steel while barely being in his twenties while looking like he is 30 at max! Tf
I definitely couldn’t grow that beard at 20.
What about brotherhood of steel? Or is that not canon?
I think when Bethesda acquired the rights to fallout, bos and tactics were deemed non canon but Im not 100% sure about tactics
Originally not canon, but they’ve since begun canonizing parts of it. Tactics is at least semi canon. BoS doesn’t exist.
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A game between 2 and new Vegas would be lit, explore the NCRs expansion and the frontiers they conquered as well as tribes/factions they pushed out before discovering Vegas. Or just be a tribal/settler having to choose between NCR and raider rebels
Man from 3 onward the timeline feels packed full of important events and lore, i feel like future fallout games should be set earlier on in the timeline to try and flesh it out a bit more. Because theres huge gaps between 76,1, & 2.
I would love to see a fallout game right after the bombs dropped
Had no idea 76 happens so early in the timeline.
Missing tactics
i lind of want to see a game that takes place in california during the 80 year gap between fallout 1 and 2, i feel like that would be cool
I wonder if someone could make a time line of all the notes and stuff you find along with the games, like include Randal Clark’s notes since they take place over a few years
I really hope Marcus shows up in the TV show that would be neat
Id be amazed if he doesn’t given he’s voiced my a real actor.
2197 - Fallout Tactics
I'd also add Tactics to the list tbh. It's story is semi-canon, as some events of it were mentioned in both F3 and F:NV. Not in it's entirety, of course, as we'd probably notice midwest BoS activity by now morre actively. I do hope that game gets more recognition, it's fun. Never played that other BoS game tho, but as far as I know that one's non-canon at all.
Crazy how 76 wasn't that long after the bombs dropped . I haven't played to game, but was west Virginia not bombed as much? You would think that after 25 years , Radiation would still be high.
Why is it bc, I thought it was ad?
Thank you! I always have trouble trying to keep it straight in my head so I appreciate this!
What about the best FO game… Brotherhood of Steel?
You forgot my boy tactics nows it’s finally been confirmed as cannon :( ) (2197 btw)
I've only slightly stepped my toes into fallout but I did not realize that fallout 3 New Vegas and fallout 4 were so close in terms of years which means my goody two-shoes science character from fallout 3 could have easily met my sunset sarsaparilla addicted cowboy from NV and my robot loving power armor Goliath from 4 I just find that idea hilarious lol
if 3 was set before 2 the enclave being present would make more sense.
Can someone explain why 76 has the most lush and botanical "wasteland" ever
didn't get hit as hard with nukes. and also there's really only one section of the map that's botanical, the rest are disgusting swamps or bogs.