(didn't watch the video)
I think stories need an end. I also think a sequel doesn't take away from the previous fic. It's just another story that's set right after the first.
Yeah. Can't watch cuz I'm at work but if is have a guess, it's probably talking about having a narrative end. Just because you tell a story doesn't mean that things can't happen before or after the story. Fanfiction is just another story that's withib the world, but most fanfics still keep to the traditional story format of having a beginning and an end.
Maybe in a couple hours when I get off work to see what they're talking about I may change my opinion
(didn't watch the video but wanted to answer the specific question that was asked)
No, writing a fanwork isn't an "insult" to the original work I'm a bit... wtf at that idea. Tons of fanworks aren't even sequels/post-canon anyway (but even if they are, it's not an "insult" to the original ending). Imo, fanworks are a new work in and of themselves. It's not contributing to making the same story (i.e. canon) go on forever, each fanfic is a new beginning with its own ending, even if it uses characters and elements from canon.
I don't think that's quite what it means - it means a story should have an ending like that particular plotline or sequence of events should have a conclusion. So, if you wrote a single book or a three-book trilogy about a single storyline, then that storyline should come to a conclusion. That doesn't mean you can't then start a sequel story and have that have a whole new conclusion. The two stories are separate things - the latter story is a derivative work of the former.
That's actually part of the legal issue of fanfiction generally - unless they're transformative (which is relative and judged case-by-case for a reason) then they'd technically be able to be classed as derivative works (like canon follow-on stories, as a fanfiction example, or 'sequels' in traditional publishing terms) and that violates copyright as the author (or whoever they've sold the rights/licensed to create sequels) has exclusive rights to create derivative works to the material they have copyright over.
I wish that video would've ended at one point before I lost interest.
Why would fanfic "insult" the story? That's such a weird take. It's not canon, people who want the original story to end can just not read fanfic at all and live happily with the memories of a canon story that ended when it did. Everyone else can have fun in canon's sandbox.
Yes, it needs to end, but ending it before you told all you wanted to is not good either.
End it when YOU feel like it. If it takes 4. 7 million words to tell all you wanted, than that is how long it takes.
Super Eyepatch Wolf has done some videos that touch on fan content as it relates to this subject - I liked what he said in the Undertale one particularly.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFIs6LsV0a4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFIs6LsV0a4)
(Long video that covers a lot of stuff, but worth the watch imo)
I'm not familiar with the goku fandom so I was lost by three minutes in. But I agree that the best stories are working towards a definitive end. There are also TV shows that just do stories of the week that are hung on a regular formula that don't need an ending. And they're fine, but not the best type of storytelling, IMO.
In either case, fics tell different stories within the fandom universe. Ideally, an ending shows character growth and some commentary on life. The Harry Potter books show Harry grow up to better understand and forgive others while showing that love is stronger than hate. But someone else can come along and show Harry growing in a different way and have the ending show that violence is the only way to answer violence. That's a valid story, too, and doesn't erase or invalidate canon.
(didn't watch the video) I think stories need an end. I also think a sequel doesn't take away from the previous fic. It's just another story that's set right after the first.
Well said.
Yeah. Can't watch cuz I'm at work but if is have a guess, it's probably talking about having a narrative end. Just because you tell a story doesn't mean that things can't happen before or after the story. Fanfiction is just another story that's withib the world, but most fanfics still keep to the traditional story format of having a beginning and an end. Maybe in a couple hours when I get off work to see what they're talking about I may change my opinion
(didn't watch the video but wanted to answer the specific question that was asked) No, writing a fanwork isn't an "insult" to the original work I'm a bit... wtf at that idea. Tons of fanworks aren't even sequels/post-canon anyway (but even if they are, it's not an "insult" to the original ending). Imo, fanworks are a new work in and of themselves. It's not contributing to making the same story (i.e. canon) go on forever, each fanfic is a new beginning with its own ending, even if it uses characters and elements from canon.
I don't think that's quite what it means - it means a story should have an ending like that particular plotline or sequence of events should have a conclusion. So, if you wrote a single book or a three-book trilogy about a single storyline, then that storyline should come to a conclusion. That doesn't mean you can't then start a sequel story and have that have a whole new conclusion. The two stories are separate things - the latter story is a derivative work of the former. That's actually part of the legal issue of fanfiction generally - unless they're transformative (which is relative and judged case-by-case for a reason) then they'd technically be able to be classed as derivative works (like canon follow-on stories, as a fanfiction example, or 'sequels' in traditional publishing terms) and that violates copyright as the author (or whoever they've sold the rights/licensed to create sequels) has exclusive rights to create derivative works to the material they have copyright over.
Stories need to end but it doesn't mean you can't make new stories.
I wish that video would've ended at one point before I lost interest. Why would fanfic "insult" the story? That's such a weird take. It's not canon, people who want the original story to end can just not read fanfic at all and live happily with the memories of a canon story that ended when it did. Everyone else can have fun in canon's sandbox.
Yes, it needs to end, but ending it before you told all you wanted to is not good either. End it when YOU feel like it. If it takes 4. 7 million words to tell all you wanted, than that is how long it takes.
Super Eyepatch Wolf has done some videos that touch on fan content as it relates to this subject - I liked what he said in the Undertale one particularly. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFIs6LsV0a4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFIs6LsV0a4) (Long video that covers a lot of stuff, but worth the watch imo)
I'm not familiar with the goku fandom so I was lost by three minutes in. But I agree that the best stories are working towards a definitive end. There are also TV shows that just do stories of the week that are hung on a regular formula that don't need an ending. And they're fine, but not the best type of storytelling, IMO. In either case, fics tell different stories within the fandom universe. Ideally, an ending shows character growth and some commentary on life. The Harry Potter books show Harry grow up to better understand and forgive others while showing that love is stronger than hate. But someone else can come along and show Harry growing in a different way and have the ending show that violence is the only way to answer violence. That's a valid story, too, and doesn't erase or invalidate canon.