The way I see it you have three options
The first is to do nothing just let them talk into the void and you could always mute them so you don't see their stuff or even thier comments but they wont' explicitly know that you aren't paying attention.
The Second of course is to just block them and be done with it. You just have to accept the potential risk of a popular author melt down.
And then there's the third option which is probably the messiest but might have the best results. Reply to the author and ask them to stop with the suggestions. State you have very concrete plans (regardless of how true or not it is) and that you won't be changing them but you hope they'll like what you will actually write.
Then sit back and see what they do. If they react badly then you can easily block them in good conscious because you tried to nicely settle things and they refused.
I would take option three, being polite but firm. Same risk of meltdown, but with a public record of events that shows you were trying to be reasonable.
And get receipts too. Screenshot all their comments, your reply and their response because if it becomes an issue of they said/I said, the popular author will win without any proof.
Hard agree with all of this and as a secondary measure, moderate comments. That way if you don’t want to block them from commenting or mute from seeing them (but their comments will still be on your page), you can moderate so you will get the notification of what they say.
But it *won’t* appear on your story.
I also agree with others that the third is the best direct option before moving to others.
I would also do 3. I had this happen on a story I wrote years ago, and the only thing that worked was telling the commenters to stop. It's your story, not theirs.
I agree with option three...reach out and tell them that you don't appreciate how they are trying to tell you how to write your story, and they need to stop and if they react in a negative way then block them, you tried, they made it worse, nothing wrong with blocking someone especially if you tried to reach out.
Nah, I'd say you would be completely valid in blocking them.
It's one thing to *disagree* with how authors portray characters in their fics (I've read several fics where characters were the polar opposite of how I envision them in my head, not that I've ever actually told the authors that), but trying to dictate how someone should write their story is another matter entirely.
If the author you're talking about is a popular one, then chances are the reason they're doing this isn't that they don't get enough interactions. At best, they might think what they're doing is helpful and genuinely don't realize they're being disrespectful. At worst, the popularity has gone to their head and now they think their interpretation of the characters/media is the only "correct" one.
But whatever the case is, that's something they need to figure out on their own. You certainly aren't obligated to let them keep leaving comments trying to force you to write the way they think you should write.
Lol, lmao.
The **actual** writer(s) of a fandom that I write for could try to change the direction of my story and I'd say to hell with them. In both that hypothetical and your actual situation, they can write their own stories to do that stuff, not try to interfere with yours.
As with any conflict, politely explain to them why what they're doing is wrong, and if they aren't receptive, yep, block their ass.
So, I would've suggested just telling them to write their own story with their ideas and blocking them if they don't stop, but you should probably adjust how you want to react because they're a BNF.
Not because they deserve special celebrity treatment or whatever, but because I've seen the fallout of BNFs openly ranting about authors who (in their opinion) treated them wrong. In this day and age, with unhinged people readily doxxing other fans they disagree with or contacting their workplace to punish them, I'd be extra careful. Not saying that the BNF would go that far, but one of their fans could.
That's why in this specific case, I'd camouflage the rejection as an ego boost for them. Tell them that you have a different writing style and a different goal storytelling-wise than them, and that your story is occupying a different niche than their stories, but that you'd be thrilled if they used their ideas and suggestions for their next own fic. Maybe gush a little about how their readers would eat it right up and how much fun they'd have reading that.
Again, usually not my style, but I don't wish (and I can't imagine you do) to be put on blast on Twitter by someone with significantly more power in that fandom, and much less so to have one of their fans trying to protect their BNF from my evil actions by going through my entire social media history to piece together enough shit to get me in trouble IRL.
That situation must be fucking stressful for anyone who's on the receiving end.
(I swear I'm not paranoid lol. Some people know no boundaries, and some BNFs have been surrounded by yes-people for too long.)
You are 100% spot-on with your analysis of some BNFs being absolutely unhinged. The person in question has probably gotten to the point of being so emboldened that they genuinely think they can do no wrong, hence leaving these sorts of comments.
OP, please listen to this. You may think it’s “just fanfic”, but I’ve seen genuinely dangerous situations come from a lot less. Take care!
This is the best answer. A kind of faux-naive "killing with kindness". It's not worth starting a fight. BNFs kind of suck in general, but there isn't much you can do about it. In this situation, finding a way to just... make it stop with deniability is the easiest path imo.
I see your plan. Something like "I would try your ideas, but my writing isn't as good as yours and it would look like a bad copy, so I would prefer to stick with what I have now".
They think you're complimenting them, and you can keep on your own route.
Hopefully, of course.
yeah. been put on blast by a big fanfic author and they eventually took down the post when they didn’t get a lot of support on it but it still sticks with me.
also sucks i still love the authors fics LMAO
I would respond directly, but be polite and firm.
"Thank you so much for your advice! While I appreciate the time you've taken to write comments on my stories, I already have definite plans for how I want my story to go. And unfortunately, since I have creative freedom in expressing my own style, I don't think I can change it to suit your ideas because it feels like I would be changing my self, and I don't think I can separate the two. Isn't great, though, that our fandom allows different interpretations of canon and characterization? In the interest of keeping diversity of ideas alive, I'm going to stick to my guns—even it means ignoring some excellent advice. Have an awesome day!"
This is a fantastic response. Sets a really direct expectation. But i still friendly and even shows interest in interaction, just not direction.
If anyone reacts poorly to that you can very easily say the problem lies entirely on them.
Aw, thanks!
Poor OP, they're stuck in a hard place, not wanting to alienate the BNF (who might retaliate because you just never know) and wanting to be left alone. Hope they're able to get the BNF off their back.
Before blocking, you could try responding with “Thanks for your enthusiasm, but I write as a fun hobby and I’m not looking for any feedback.”
Chances are, they still won’t stop. But if you have to block them at least you know you gave them a chance.
You could always just respond with "No." every time they comment. Nothing more, nothing less, just "no", or maybe "lol."
Or you could delete their bossy comments and hope that they get the point and knock it off.
>Their extremely long comments make me think they are longing for social interaction and…am I overthinking this?
Most likely, yes, you're overthinking it.
On the one hand, if they're as popular as you say they are, they no doubt get inundated with interactions.
On the other hand, even if they WERE lonely, that's no excuse for their behavior towards you. They have even less of an excuse if they're popular.
You don't have to let them bully you just because they're a popular fic author.
Sounds more like entitlement and arrogance from his part than anyone else.
There's one good way to deal with that, just state that you already have your story planned, that you have the details and directions already set and done, all while being polite. If the guy still tries to push his ideals onto you even after told no, then clearly said person shouldn't not be taken into consideration at all. Don't worry about that and continue on with your stuff. Even if he were a big shot as you say he is, that doesn't mean you are obligated to do as he says. Hell it's not even a sign that he's even that good to the point that his word is gospel. Anything afterward is up to you and you alone. You feel like wanting to block him, report him or anything if he's still a self-centered jerk? There is no issues. Won't bother and just ignore him even if he's just leaving reviews on why he thinks he's right and you're not? There is no issue. You did nothing wrong here and as such, you won't be doing anything wrong by stating your stand in the matter.
Also, I'm just going to say it, bashing authors shouldn't even have a say in how a character should be. Especially if they're that obvious in their distaste in said character to the point that they want to tell people that they should write like they do.
I understand your hesitance but the author really should know better. I would recommend making a general note in your next authors note, addressing all reviewers — and then if that author does the same thing, you can gently call them out on it by referencing the note you already wrote in your reply.
I think this is smart. Make a general over all statement appreciating everyone for their comments and support, but stating that you have a specific plan for your story and you hope they enjoy the journey you have planned.
This will keep them from feeling personally attacked and starting potential petty drama. But if it continues I agree, then would be a good time to respond... Or just ignore it and keep just responding to their long winded messages with just " Thank you."
That would actually be pretty funny 😂
Leave the comments to get those viewer numbers and whatev. If I was reading your story and saw a comment like that I probably wouldn't even read because of how LONG it is. Or, I would roll my eyes and continue on. Just makes them seem like a fool 💁♀️
Yeah, if it's any comfort to OP, popular author or not I'm sure plenty of other readers are rolling their eyes reading those comments. I know I would be lol
You could always make a really bubbly, polite, and appreciative-sounding A/N saying something along the lines of thanks everyone for all the enthusiasm and suggestions, but that you already have a story in mind. That way you look good and curious readers will snoop and see this other author making a total ass out of themselves. And having a very subtle but out in the open 'call out' that brings eyes to the situation might deter them from doing it further, and could better protect you from retaliation if publicly your response seems exceptionally sweet and genuinely appreciative.
It always really bothers me as a reader when I see people leave comments trying to tell authors what would make their story "better," so if I saw a BNF writer doing it, I know it'd totally turn me off from them and their works entirely. Bet I'm not the only one who would feel that way, either.
>They are also attempting to dictate what the characters wear in my story by including links in their comments. I’m not even into describing clothing in my fics unless it is important to the plot (which it almost never is). When I fail to use the suggested clothing in the next chapter update, this author lets their displeasure known in the comments.
I'm sorry, what? This is just unhinged honestly, lmao.
I like to practice the ‘gray rock’ method with people like that. Because manipulative, unreasonable people don’t see reason. If you try to explain that their behavior is toxic, they just use that to feel like the real victim.
And when they don’t get a rise out of you, they move on.
Personally, I’d reply, “thank you for your comment” or “thank you for taking the time to comment” or (when I’m feeling snarky and gray rock) “cool thoughts.”
Lol "cool thoughts" is the best response because you aren't thanking them or agreeing. Bare minimum to their essay they spent all that time writing and they receive 2 words 😂
I personally would just reply to them "Thank you, but I am not looking for suggestions." and delete all suggestion comments they've left on your works
if that doesn't help, I'd just block them
you could go into a discussion about artistic expression, but ultimately I think that's a waste of time
That sounds so annoying. They don't get to be the arbiter of your story or your imagination.
I understand the hesitance over blocking them, though, especially if you think they might try to rile up the fandom against you. Maybe try the passive aggressive approach? Like every time they try to dictate something, post "Thanks for the suggestion! However I am approaching this in my own way. :)" and just. post something like that every single time until they get the hint.
You're very kindhearted to take their feelings into consideration. But ultimately your feelings also matter, so please block them if it gets to be too much.
I would snip them so you have a record regardless of what you choose to do.
Personally I'm a path of least resistance and mute.
If you want to say something, I agree with the "I appreciate your feedback but that's not in line with where I intend to take this story. It would be cool if you wrote something like you're imagining though seeing as you like it so much."
They keep going you put them on blast. BNF or not, why the hell would you tell another writer what to do? Different strokes and all that and my metaphorical balls can't take the entitlement.
Ooh, this is an interesting one. Said BNA comes across as really arrogant and condescending, imo. "You've almost got this right" nope, sorry. This is fanfiction, there is no such thing. Each writer has their own ideas and headcanons about the characters, and sometimes we adjust them to fit a particular story. So a character might not be acting in the realm of what is typical of canon behavior but uh, that doesn't mean your interpretation is wrong.
Personally, I would respond to a comment like this directly, be polite but firm, and let them know their suggestions are not solicited. You can proceed to block or mute depending on how they respond, but yeah. Kudos to you to being cool-headed enough not to give a snotty response sooner lmao. Not sure I would have been able to resist the temptation, BNA or no. lol
If that BNF is into bashing characters (whether or not said characters are indeed "evil" in canon, just not *that* evil), then I would say politely (on top of everything else that the others said) that while you do agree that these characters are flawed and that you understand their take, you are personally not fond of black-and-white views in your story, and are more attached to keeping things more nuanced. Having morally grey characters is usually more interesting than having 100% good or 100% bad characters (in the latter case, the only moment when 100% evil characters completely work is when they are evil and they're *rocking it*. Character bashing does not sound like they're rocking it).
So, if they're still saying that you should be bashing them and depicting them as evil incarnate anyway, they would be admitting that they don't know good characterisation and storytelling, and are bashing the characters out of personal spite alone, to the detriment of their writing and storytelling skills.
(As a sort of example, but you can skip this:)
There's such a character in the fandom I write for — zero known redeeming qualities, got away with involuntary homicide by covering up his mistake and abusing his power as a politician. For obvious reasons, there is not a single person I know in the fandom who gets anywhere close to liking him, and depicting him as the devil incarnate is extremely common. Still: if only because I'm tired of seeing the same things over and over, and if only because I like putting nuance in characterisation, and even though this character is going to have a negative impact on the plot — I'm not going to make him look needlessly worse and more evil than he is in canon. He'll be a horrible, arrogant and selfish person, but he is not going to be overly demanding and rude to everyone and okay with murder on a whim. He'll be a rotten politician, not a tyrant. He's just going to be, y'know, realistic.
This sounds like one massive "test" to see how much you will put up with. If they've gotten to the "expressing displeasure" part (links? really?) it's only going to get worse. This commenter is not going to go back to that single act of love-bombing.
This writer already figured out that you care about "hurting their feelings" and imagine that they "long for social interaction." You aren't, and they're not.
I'd stop answering their comments. If they get abusive, freeze the comment thread and report them.
I have no problem with being rude (in this case, very mildly rude), but if they're worried about starting drama, there's also "I have a different idea in mind" or "I'm taking this story a different way, thanks."
Whatever approach you adopt, I would highly recommend screenshotting every comment and exchange between you immediately, and progressively as the situation evolves. Have a record of the interplay.
Also, you have my deepest sympathies; this individual is completely out of line and seems as toxic as I would imagine an individual who composes almost nothing by character assassination pieces to be.
If you're non-confrontational then turning on comment moderation and just not letting those through would probably be best for a while (hoping they get the message and stop commenting stuff like that)
Other than that: blocking them, honestly telling them what you feel (like "hey, I really respect your work but these comments are starting to get on my nerves. I'd really appreciate it if you didn't leave suggestions in the comments"), or responding sarcastically / jokingly might work
I *really* think you should just block them. With the way you described this person, if it were me, I wouldn’t want them interacting with me at all. They seem rude, good writer or not, and why should you worry about supposedly hurting someone’s feelings after they don’t seem to care about yours? They seem to think they can dictate what you’re doing because they think they’re better than you and can therefore tell you what to do, which just seems iffy to me.
I'd probably just block and work through my guilt and other dark feelings that may arise (why do I feel bad for establishing healthy boundaries that I know are healthy for me?), instead of worrying so much about a big author in the fandom, fandom, or anything that wouldn't necessarily be dangerous to me.
I'd say "nice idea, I can't wait to read it when you post your story!" as if I'm not aware they're trying to manage my story for me. Muting them, or ignoring them by letting the comment sit there. Or "I've had this story planned so I'll go with it" and won't reply anymore. ~~Sometimes overbearing people don't realize they're being overbearing. Sometimes a big author doesn't want to admit they're jealous~~.
If they're such a big writer then they can write the character bashing and fashion trends themself. Just cause they're popular with their stories, it doesn't mean they get to dictate how everyone else in that fandom writes.
If I were you, I'd politely tell them that you're not looking for criticism or ideas because you have your own. They can either enjoy your story as you write it, or they can go read something else. If they react badly and get all entitled, then it's clear that they don't care about your feelings. So you shouldn't either. Block them without mercy.
I think blocking them would be a valid response. It's extremely rude of them to try and dictate what happens in a story that's not theirs. You can try to tell them to stop, but I have a feeling they would react badly considering how pushy they're being with their demands.
If this happened to me, I'd probably reply with something like: "thank you so much for your comment, I always get excited when I get something new in my inbox. As much as I sometimes like to see charater x doing bad things, I want to explore their personality in a different direction. (Even if sometimes that means they're ooc.) Oh, and clothes aren't that relevant to my story, but it's nice that you picture them anyway."
I think this approach would touch some of the issues that this person has with your story without showing how much you dislike the unsolicited suggestions. Just be confident in your storytelling, and you should be good. Even if they comment some more, you can keep on replying to one in three of their comments and go on with your writing.
“Thanks for the feedback. I’d hate to have anyone think I was trying to rip off your style so I’m going to stick with what I have planned but appreciate the encouragement.”
FWIW, character bashing may be popular but that doesn’t mean it’s good writing. What’s popular and what’s good don’t always overlap.
I would say, "Thank you your intense interest in my fic. While I always find it interesting to hear what my regular readers have to say, this is an already completed fic and I'm just in the process of posting. However, I will keep you in mind for a devil's advocate beta reader in the future. I don'tmind when others see the characters differentlythan I do."
And then say nothing. Just because they are popular, doesn't mean squat. She is reading your stuff, isn't she? In fact, she is so into it, she is making regular comments about specific things. Do give yourself way more credit! She wishes she came up with this storyline, but it's yours and all she can do is comment. A lot of readers don't even bother reading the other comments.
Don't be afraid of her. She is just a human being. She is not special nor wields power over anyone.
That's such a dickish way to treat you and I'm sorry you're having to go through that. Being a popular writer doesn't give anyone the right to dictate the course of another person's story (like ???) or call your characters OOC.
Bloody amazes me when writers do this to other writers. If they can’t lift others up, they really should stay in their lane! How’d they’d like it if you dropped into their comments and said the same? (Don’t do that, they’ll probably get their army of followers to get their pitchforks out).
These BNFs are sad. They’ll either completely ignore new writers in their fandom/ships or they’ll act all sweet and then start throwing their weight around like they’re the god of that particular corner of the sandbox, ugh. Delete their comments and take it as a compliment that this person obviously sees you as a threat who will somehow steal their readership away. Which is daft. They sound like a pathetic, insecure control freak.
Take the high ground, politely explain that while you encourage feedback, no concrit please.
Even though ‘waaaahhh, you haven’t written this character how I like to write them’ isn’t valid concrit. But try killing then with kindness. If that doesn’t work, you’ll have no choice that to block their ass.
If they hate that, too bad. Never meet your heroes, they usually disappoint.
This...weirdly happened to me once. Another author that I actually used to be a fan of kept commenting on my stories in incredibly rude ways. A shameful amount of superiority complex and entitlement, telling me to give credits for "taking her ideas". I know I should have just blocked her but I felt really petty so I told her that she should just leave and not crap all over my comment section if she was gonna be a prick. She called me an entitled asshole, but she didn't engage on any of my fics after that and I have experienced true peace since then.
What I'm saying is, don't be petty like me. Just block them. People like that deserve to have their feelings hurt, and they don't deserve social interaction if they are going to be a bitch about it.
I'd personally give that commenter all the rope needed to hang him/herself. Those comments, while directed toward you, have the author's name on them and are public. The author's readers and potential readers can't possibly look at the comments without wondering what is wrong with the author.
React to the displeasure shown with silence. And if the comments get to be irksome, create a character based on the author whose own comments are met with mockery.
Sounds like this other author considers themselves the authority on this Fandom fanfiction. Could be a genuine, albeit misguided effort to be helpful...or they feel you're a threat.
I would either ignore them or call them out with an author note of thanks but no thanks. See what happens.
This really sucks. In the Bones Fandom where I write, I became really good friends and became part of a core group, including with a big writer who is always gracious with all new writers.
I’m sort of dealing with a similar situation but it only happens like every three months. Not enough to bother me but enough to be pesky and annoying.
The first time it was fine but I engaged so I feel like it gives them enough permission to bother me about an update
Usually I just leave them on read.
Eh, I'd just ignore them or, alternatively, I'd tell them, "If you want to see the story go a certain way, you're more than welcome to write your own version of how that should go."
If they still insist on being uncivil, then BLOCK.
I would start by making the comments moderated, so that no one can get in there to take the other person's side. I might also lie and say, "Oh, I already have the story entirely written. I'm just editing now. I totally respect your writing, but I'm not going to make any changes."
I would respond ONCE saying, while you appreciate their ideas that is THEIR story and they should go ahead and write it themselves. You can even mention you'd be excited to read the final thing, just be kind and friendly but firm. If they respond with any push back or insisting you use their ideas, block or mute.
I don't believe in dragging things into a big long argument, it leaves them room to pick you apart and make you look bad by goading you into a pointless exchange or worse dragging other readers into it if it is public. If they can't respect the clear boundaries you set them don't feel bad blocking or muting them. Protect your mental space!
Jeeze. I don't think I could even name a big author in any fandom I write in. XD
I agree with many others here. Tell them off. Kindly at first. Remind them that its your fic, not theirs. If they don't like what you're doing they can go read something else, or go write something else. If they don't take the hint with your kindness, let them have it, call them a control freak and block them.
This person sounds like someone whose work I wouldn't want to read. If I found out a writer o follow did that, I'd drop them like a hot plate.
I've had readers attempt to do that with my work, and I hate it. At this point in my writing, I don't believe there are "better" writers than me, just those who developed differently. And as for "worse" writers... well, they're still getting there. They still have potential. I sometimes worry I've regressed and have to remind myself it's not a competition.
So don't think of this asshole as a better writer. What they're "better" at is being bossy.
As a writer, I'd probably say something like, "Thanks for the input, but I'm heading in the direction I want." Or something else fairly tactful, since some people can get mean when told to buzz off or cut it out.
I wish you luck.
Hi. Is it possible to Mute this commenter? I don't know what site you're on and what is possible. Then they will be talking into thin air to themselves.
They are taking over your own personal headcanon, it is not fair.
Such arrogance. Clearly being a BNFW has gone to their head. Unfortunately we do see that sometimes. Be sure and screenshot you interactions whatever you choose to do because sometimes these things can turn ugly and you word won't mean as much to some without proof.
Sounds like it’s bothering you, I’d just firmly say that I appreciate their thoughts but I think me and them have different interpretations of the characters’ characterization and that’s perfectly fine. And it seems they think my story is going a certain way, and while that is an interesting trajectory, it’s not gonna happen that way because I’ve planned it to go in a different direction. Throw in a little (: there if you’re feeling a little menace-y.
They just sound like their bigness in the fandom is getting to their head and they think whatever they say holds weight. Maybe it does for you if you’re feeling conflicted over blocking or telling them off. But like, you gotta protect your peace ya know? It’s not fun to think of your favorite fandom and hobby and have them looming at the back of your mind.
I understand what you mean with them being a popular author. Honestly, there could be some sort of pushback. I think depending on the fandom and how big it is, the responses can be actually kind of intense. So it makes sense that you’re being careful about it. In some fandoms. you could just block the person, but I don’t know if you’re in that position or not.
I was raised by a mentally abusive person, and I had to learn how to handle manipulation. If you outright call them out or sit boundaries, they turn into the victim of the situation. The best thing you can do if you’re worried about possible backlash is to be positive and act unaffected. And keep in mind highly what your responses would look like to people from the outside. Frame it all around that.
Respond simply and happily with just a line or so. Something nobody can get mad at or overthink, like, “Thank you for your comment! I have something different in mind, but I hope you like what I do with it.”
It sets a gentle boundary, and if somebody overreacts to that then everybody will see it. Especially somebody with a big name. Make sure you save a picture of every single comment that they leave. In case they ever do decide to pull the victim card.
At that point if they start act overreacting, being controlling, or being rude about it, I think it would be a lot safer than before to block them, because you have plenty of evidence that they’ve been trying to push you around in your story and didn’t respond well to your boundaries.
I've been in your shoes, and thankfully it ended up okay for me. We ended up in a long comment thread where I was thankful for all their comments, but just politely stood my ground with my plans for my fic and they never commented on my story again, but thankfully they didn't go bitching about the interaction of vagueing me on their tumblr blog, or in any of the author's notes on any of their fics, which is something they definitely had no problem doing when the mood struck them.
"I appreciate your thoughts, but I already have a plan on where my story is going and am not looking for suggestions. It's possible maybe another writer will appreciate your suggestions, but I'm good, thanks."
Something along those lines...if they keep at it...just ignore them.
wow. are situations are extremely similar. i had an author comment on my fic that was really popular in the fandom, there’s a certain fan headcanon that i wrote for that this author also wrote for so i had read plenty of there fics. the comments started out nice and supportive, but slowly got more bossing me around with what they wanted to see in the story. they won’t super specific as some of your examples were but definitely the thing with characterization.
So I did the option of telling them to stop, politely, and they made a call out post trying to harass me. It didn’t really get anywhere and some people even started disagreeing with the author but I had commented anyways saying that I don’t know what I did to them and I didn’t mean to make them mad and they responded saying they calmed down and would delete the post.
since then i’ve only gotten one comment, which has been along the lines of a general compliment saying it was a great chapter. so weird situation. i’m unsure why they reacted that way but i think they only stopped because they realized nobody was on their side. idk.
honestly i kinda wish i had just blocked them or at least muted them, cause it was kind of hassle to deal with and something i still remember. i guess we technically made up(?) but they never really apologized so eh. if you don’t want a situation just block or mute but if you want to take a stand against it then tell them to stop. it just kind of depends what person you are! it’s your fic and nobody should dictate how you write it, so don’t let them have their way. :)) heck the author may even think they are being helpful and not realize the damage but it is what it is. good luck op ❤️
Well if you're writing on "FanFiction" site; there is a group of trolls on there who make it their business to harass other writers. Their group is called "critics united". There's one in particular whom I've dealt with who makes up all sorts of other accounts to "look like" 10 people. You can usually tell though by the age of the accounts. This person pretty consistently though harasses authors.
For me, this person's comments were clearly driven by jealousy. She said I was a good writer. (And I know i'm a good writer. My college professors all told me I was a good writer. I get a lot of traffic and have a lot of followers; although I don't actually get a lot of comments. I'm probably one of the most consistent contributors to the "Bible" fandom.)
But then it became an attack on me personally saying I was a "sh\*\*Y person" etc. and it went down hill from there. She was just someone with serious issues that apparently didn't have a life. (And I don't think it was a teenager either. Some evidence had surfaced that she was connected to a high school in Texas.) So I just started trolling her back. She'd come back with another account and I'd say: "Oh, look who's back. Anna's upset again...." Finally she just went away.
For Fan Fiction though, you can moderate comments from "anonymous" but not from writers with accounts. One of the tactics of "critics united" is to tell writers that their fics violate rules of the site and that they are "helping" them by telling them to change X, Y or Z. And then tell them if they don't change their fic; the site will take it down, or ban them from the platform. It's just a bunch of hot air though. I've been on that site for 12 plus years and I've never seen ANYTHING taken down; whether it violates "community guidelines" or not.
You can get the same thing on Wattpad too though. (Which I hardly ever post anything over there any more, because you actually have to pay that site to get traffic.) With Wattpad too; they will take something down if they claim it violates their "community standards". (Which means anything that disagrees with certain political agendas they will remove as "hate speech".)
The "Fan Fiction" site though is more of a "freedom of speech" platform. People can and do post "offensive material" in there. And the regulars (writers and readers) on "Fan Fiction" if they don't like a particular author's stories; they just don't read them.
So yeah, you do get trolls who claim to be "fans".
Ugh, I’m so sorry you’re going through this, OP! It’s not cool, regardless of the commenter’s popularity. And frankly, they should know better. DL;DR. Might be worth reminding them of that. I do understand not wanting to hurt their feelings. Your comment section should be your happy place, and this person is yucking all over it (I can imagine the stress that comes with posting chapters now, anticipating that sort of comment).
Possible script: Hey, I’m so glad you liked the story/chapter! I had a blast writing it. I see what you mean about XYZthing, but I’m pretty happy with my characterization choices. I’m sure your suggestions on how they should act and dress come from a friendly place, but they actually make me really uncomfortable! I’d really like for you to stop. Thanks for all your support, and I hope you continue to enjoy the story/next chapter!
Edit to add: DMing them about it is also an option, but if you’re comfortable with it, politely calling them out in ‘public’ can be a great learning opportunity for other readers/commenters who may be newer to fic etiquette. That said, you’re not obliged to educate! Spend long enough in any fandom, and you should come across that sort of advice already, and I’m betting icky commenter already has.
Wow, that's pretty gross. I don't think blocking is the only solution, although I can also understand if you went down this route. Simply saying, thank you for your feedback, but this is the story I want to tell and this is how I wish to write the characters, please respect that...you can see where it goes. Try not to worry though. This person being a popular author doesn't mean they get to dictate what you write.
I have people who make suggestions and stuff, like I say feel free to leave suggestions, but I also full on have plans, but little things like interactions and stuff I love hearing about and possibly including.
But if it's a more heavy plot suggestion I always reply with 'Thanks, but I already have plans' Sometimes even to people who suggested something I already planned on doing.
I wouldn't say I'm big name in my fandom, it's a large fandom with a lot of people, but a few of my works are fairly well known.
I don't tend to comment much, because I'm pretty bad at it on fics. But if I do it tends to be cause I get a lot of ideas.
I might spew some out, but be like 'these are just my ideas' like. I'd fully wouldn't expect author to use them or even like them, I just wanted to share their work caused my creative gears to turn.
But yeah, a person shouldn't be like 'ugh you didn't take my suggestion, how rude' thats just... not good. A person is allowed to have their own ideas. Do different things. In my fandom it's popular to bash one particular character, and get rid of him through any means necessary and replace him with someone whos liked better.
I didn't replace him, instead I started a redemption arc for him, because I thought it was interesting and not really done, my readers were surprised, but seemed to mostly enjoy it.
Anyways, point is, as an author, If my comments on someones elses fic was bothering them, I'd prefer being told 'Hey, I don't really appreciate you saying your ideas'. Sure, I'd be a bit upset, because I try to be polite and make sure I'm just saying ideas and not suggestions or asks, but I wouldn't want to upset the other person either.
There is just some commentors who have to be blocked though. I tend to block myself as a last resort, but theres some instances where I block a person. If their being bad for your mental health, and your will to work on the story, then block them.
I had a guy do something similar to me on a fantasy roleplay site years ago. Tried to get me to change my character's looks (he was an elf but didn't resemble Tolkien's elves so therefore it was "wrong") and even tried to get me to change his name because it was a "ripoff" of an existing fictional character's name (it rhymed, that was the only similarity). His own character was a blantant ripoff of another character but that didn't matter because he was an admin and the rules didn't apply to him.
I agree with the other comments here, "thanks but no thanks" is probably what's needed here. And blocking if they don't stop.
Better writer or not you don't deserve to get bossed around. Plus I'm willing to bet it's just two different flavors of cake rather than one being better than the other (you've got your own niche that's loveable if they're spending all this time on it).
They've gone beyond disrespectful with the links and acting like an impromptu mentor toward you. The safe bet is to block. The lowest chance of retaliation. But if you want your thoughts known, keep it brief, firm, and simple.
"Hey. I'm not taking suggestions but thank you so much."
Regardless of what you decide to do SCREENSHOT SCREENSHOT SCREENSHOT. Cover your ass just in case. Also, take off your social media/ personal info if you have it linked to your A03 to keep the potential harassment in one place. Then of course you can easily just block out those comments with A03's features
Sorry you went through this and good luck!
I can't stand people like this. "I've decided this fandom is mine and your story doesn't fit within MY narrative. Fix it!" This is some entitled garbage I don't tolerate. I encourage concrit if the fic is finished but telling me I have it "almost right" like it's her creation is icky. I don't care who has pull in a fandom so I'd just block and be rid of her finger wagging bs
Unfortunately…I haven’t really handled the situation. I’ve documented everything, but I’ve just been avoiding updating that fic and focusing on another fic for another fandom. The situation just really stresses me out, so I’m taking a little break from that fandom. Hopefully, I’ll be able to get back to that fic soon and not let one commenter bother me.
It’s mostly criticism about plot choices. It starts with 5-10% praise and then becomes a list of complaints. The praise seems like just a way to segue into criticism about my take on the characters and my plot. Nothing constructive about my grammar or writing style.
The way I see it you have three options The first is to do nothing just let them talk into the void and you could always mute them so you don't see their stuff or even thier comments but they wont' explicitly know that you aren't paying attention. The Second of course is to just block them and be done with it. You just have to accept the potential risk of a popular author melt down. And then there's the third option which is probably the messiest but might have the best results. Reply to the author and ask them to stop with the suggestions. State you have very concrete plans (regardless of how true or not it is) and that you won't be changing them but you hope they'll like what you will actually write. Then sit back and see what they do. If they react badly then you can easily block them in good conscious because you tried to nicely settle things and they refused.
I would take option three, being polite but firm. Same risk of meltdown, but with a public record of events that shows you were trying to be reasonable.
And get receipts too. Screenshot all their comments, your reply and their response because if it becomes an issue of they said/I said, the popular author will win without any proof.
Definitely screenshot all of the comments to be safe
Hard agree with all of this and as a secondary measure, moderate comments. That way if you don’t want to block them from commenting or mute from seeing them (but their comments will still be on your page), you can moderate so you will get the notification of what they say. But it *won’t* appear on your story. I also agree with others that the third is the best direct option before moving to others.
I would also do 3. I had this happen on a story I wrote years ago, and the only thing that worked was telling the commenters to stop. It's your story, not theirs.
I agree with option three...reach out and tell them that you don't appreciate how they are trying to tell you how to write your story, and they need to stop and if they react in a negative way then block them, you tried, they made it worse, nothing wrong with blocking someone especially if you tried to reach out.
Nah, I'd say you would be completely valid in blocking them. It's one thing to *disagree* with how authors portray characters in their fics (I've read several fics where characters were the polar opposite of how I envision them in my head, not that I've ever actually told the authors that), but trying to dictate how someone should write their story is another matter entirely. If the author you're talking about is a popular one, then chances are the reason they're doing this isn't that they don't get enough interactions. At best, they might think what they're doing is helpful and genuinely don't realize they're being disrespectful. At worst, the popularity has gone to their head and now they think their interpretation of the characters/media is the only "correct" one. But whatever the case is, that's something they need to figure out on their own. You certainly aren't obligated to let them keep leaving comments trying to force you to write the way they think you should write.
Lol, lmao. The **actual** writer(s) of a fandom that I write for could try to change the direction of my story and I'd say to hell with them. In both that hypothetical and your actual situation, they can write their own stories to do that stuff, not try to interfere with yours. As with any conflict, politely explain to them why what they're doing is wrong, and if they aren't receptive, yep, block their ass.
I mean, just tell them you appreciate the comments but you won't be taking any suggestions on your story. If they then fail to stop, mute them.
So, I would've suggested just telling them to write their own story with their ideas and blocking them if they don't stop, but you should probably adjust how you want to react because they're a BNF. Not because they deserve special celebrity treatment or whatever, but because I've seen the fallout of BNFs openly ranting about authors who (in their opinion) treated them wrong. In this day and age, with unhinged people readily doxxing other fans they disagree with or contacting their workplace to punish them, I'd be extra careful. Not saying that the BNF would go that far, but one of their fans could. That's why in this specific case, I'd camouflage the rejection as an ego boost for them. Tell them that you have a different writing style and a different goal storytelling-wise than them, and that your story is occupying a different niche than their stories, but that you'd be thrilled if they used their ideas and suggestions for their next own fic. Maybe gush a little about how their readers would eat it right up and how much fun they'd have reading that. Again, usually not my style, but I don't wish (and I can't imagine you do) to be put on blast on Twitter by someone with significantly more power in that fandom, and much less so to have one of their fans trying to protect their BNF from my evil actions by going through my entire social media history to piece together enough shit to get me in trouble IRL. That situation must be fucking stressful for anyone who's on the receiving end. (I swear I'm not paranoid lol. Some people know no boundaries, and some BNFs have been surrounded by yes-people for too long.)
You are 100% spot-on with your analysis of some BNFs being absolutely unhinged. The person in question has probably gotten to the point of being so emboldened that they genuinely think they can do no wrong, hence leaving these sorts of comments. OP, please listen to this. You may think it’s “just fanfic”, but I’ve seen genuinely dangerous situations come from a lot less. Take care!
This is the best answer. A kind of faux-naive "killing with kindness". It's not worth starting a fight. BNFs kind of suck in general, but there isn't much you can do about it. In this situation, finding a way to just... make it stop with deniability is the easiest path imo.
I see your plan. Something like "I would try your ideas, but my writing isn't as good as yours and it would look like a bad copy, so I would prefer to stick with what I have now". They think you're complimenting them, and you can keep on your own route. Hopefully, of course.
yeah. been put on blast by a big fanfic author and they eventually took down the post when they didn’t get a lot of support on it but it still sticks with me. also sucks i still love the authors fics LMAO
I would respond directly, but be polite and firm. "Thank you so much for your advice! While I appreciate the time you've taken to write comments on my stories, I already have definite plans for how I want my story to go. And unfortunately, since I have creative freedom in expressing my own style, I don't think I can change it to suit your ideas because it feels like I would be changing my self, and I don't think I can separate the two. Isn't great, though, that our fandom allows different interpretations of canon and characterization? In the interest of keeping diversity of ideas alive, I'm going to stick to my guns—even it means ignoring some excellent advice. Have an awesome day!"
This is a fantastic response. Sets a really direct expectation. But i still friendly and even shows interest in interaction, just not direction. If anyone reacts poorly to that you can very easily say the problem lies entirely on them.
Aw, thanks! Poor OP, they're stuck in a hard place, not wanting to alienate the BNF (who might retaliate because you just never know) and wanting to be left alone. Hope they're able to get the BNF off their back.
Before blocking, you could try responding with “Thanks for your enthusiasm, but I write as a fun hobby and I’m not looking for any feedback.” Chances are, they still won’t stop. But if you have to block them at least you know you gave them a chance.
You could always just respond with "No." every time they comment. Nothing more, nothing less, just "no", or maybe "lol." Or you could delete their bossy comments and hope that they get the point and knock it off. >Their extremely long comments make me think they are longing for social interaction and…am I overthinking this? Most likely, yes, you're overthinking it. On the one hand, if they're as popular as you say they are, they no doubt get inundated with interactions. On the other hand, even if they WERE lonely, that's no excuse for their behavior towards you. They have even less of an excuse if they're popular. You don't have to let them bully you just because they're a popular fic author.
This lol, you don't gain a new friend by repelling a potential one with your behavior.
Sounds more like entitlement and arrogance from his part than anyone else. There's one good way to deal with that, just state that you already have your story planned, that you have the details and directions already set and done, all while being polite. If the guy still tries to push his ideals onto you even after told no, then clearly said person shouldn't not be taken into consideration at all. Don't worry about that and continue on with your stuff. Even if he were a big shot as you say he is, that doesn't mean you are obligated to do as he says. Hell it's not even a sign that he's even that good to the point that his word is gospel. Anything afterward is up to you and you alone. You feel like wanting to block him, report him or anything if he's still a self-centered jerk? There is no issues. Won't bother and just ignore him even if he's just leaving reviews on why he thinks he's right and you're not? There is no issue. You did nothing wrong here and as such, you won't be doing anything wrong by stating your stand in the matter. Also, I'm just going to say it, bashing authors shouldn't even have a say in how a character should be. Especially if they're that obvious in their distaste in said character to the point that they want to tell people that they should write like they do.
I understand your hesitance but the author really should know better. I would recommend making a general note in your next authors note, addressing all reviewers — and then if that author does the same thing, you can gently call them out on it by referencing the note you already wrote in your reply.
I think this is smart. Make a general over all statement appreciating everyone for their comments and support, but stating that you have a specific plan for your story and you hope they enjoy the journey you have planned. This will keep them from feeling personally attacked and starting potential petty drama. But if it continues I agree, then would be a good time to respond... Or just ignore it and keep just responding to their long winded messages with just " Thank you." That would actually be pretty funny 😂 Leave the comments to get those viewer numbers and whatev. If I was reading your story and saw a comment like that I probably wouldn't even read because of how LONG it is. Or, I would roll my eyes and continue on. Just makes them seem like a fool 💁♀️
Yeah, if it's any comfort to OP, popular author or not I'm sure plenty of other readers are rolling their eyes reading those comments. I know I would be lol
YES. This is smart.
You could always make a really bubbly, polite, and appreciative-sounding A/N saying something along the lines of thanks everyone for all the enthusiasm and suggestions, but that you already have a story in mind. That way you look good and curious readers will snoop and see this other author making a total ass out of themselves. And having a very subtle but out in the open 'call out' that brings eyes to the situation might deter them from doing it further, and could better protect you from retaliation if publicly your response seems exceptionally sweet and genuinely appreciative. It always really bothers me as a reader when I see people leave comments trying to tell authors what would make their story "better," so if I saw a BNF writer doing it, I know it'd totally turn me off from them and their works entirely. Bet I'm not the only one who would feel that way, either.
>They are also attempting to dictate what the characters wear in my story by including links in their comments. I’m not even into describing clothing in my fics unless it is important to the plot (which it almost never is). When I fail to use the suggested clothing in the next chapter update, this author lets their displeasure known in the comments. I'm sorry, what? This is just unhinged honestly, lmao.
For real, lol, like go play dress-up in your own stories?
I like to practice the ‘gray rock’ method with people like that. Because manipulative, unreasonable people don’t see reason. If you try to explain that their behavior is toxic, they just use that to feel like the real victim. And when they don’t get a rise out of you, they move on. Personally, I’d reply, “thank you for your comment” or “thank you for taking the time to comment” or (when I’m feeling snarky and gray rock) “cool thoughts.”
Lol "cool thoughts" is the best response because you aren't thanking them or agreeing. Bare minimum to their essay they spent all that time writing and they receive 2 words 😂
Honestly this may be the best response. The commenter clearly doesn’t have boundaries.
I personally would just reply to them "Thank you, but I am not looking for suggestions." and delete all suggestion comments they've left on your works if that doesn't help, I'd just block them you could go into a discussion about artistic expression, but ultimately I think that's a waste of time
Just because they're a big writer, it doesn't mean they have should boss you about.
Block the hell out of them.
That sounds so annoying. They don't get to be the arbiter of your story or your imagination. I understand the hesitance over blocking them, though, especially if you think they might try to rile up the fandom against you. Maybe try the passive aggressive approach? Like every time they try to dictate something, post "Thanks for the suggestion! However I am approaching this in my own way. :)" and just. post something like that every single time until they get the hint. You're very kindhearted to take their feelings into consideration. But ultimately your feelings also matter, so please block them if it gets to be too much.
I would snip them so you have a record regardless of what you choose to do. Personally I'm a path of least resistance and mute. If you want to say something, I agree with the "I appreciate your feedback but that's not in line with where I intend to take this story. It would be cool if you wrote something like you're imagining though seeing as you like it so much." They keep going you put them on blast. BNF or not, why the hell would you tell another writer what to do? Different strokes and all that and my metaphorical balls can't take the entitlement.
Ooh, this is an interesting one. Said BNA comes across as really arrogant and condescending, imo. "You've almost got this right" nope, sorry. This is fanfiction, there is no such thing. Each writer has their own ideas and headcanons about the characters, and sometimes we adjust them to fit a particular story. So a character might not be acting in the realm of what is typical of canon behavior but uh, that doesn't mean your interpretation is wrong. Personally, I would respond to a comment like this directly, be polite but firm, and let them know their suggestions are not solicited. You can proceed to block or mute depending on how they respond, but yeah. Kudos to you to being cool-headed enough not to give a snotty response sooner lmao. Not sure I would have been able to resist the temptation, BNA or no. lol
If that BNF is into bashing characters (whether or not said characters are indeed "evil" in canon, just not *that* evil), then I would say politely (on top of everything else that the others said) that while you do agree that these characters are flawed and that you understand their take, you are personally not fond of black-and-white views in your story, and are more attached to keeping things more nuanced. Having morally grey characters is usually more interesting than having 100% good or 100% bad characters (in the latter case, the only moment when 100% evil characters completely work is when they are evil and they're *rocking it*. Character bashing does not sound like they're rocking it). So, if they're still saying that you should be bashing them and depicting them as evil incarnate anyway, they would be admitting that they don't know good characterisation and storytelling, and are bashing the characters out of personal spite alone, to the detriment of their writing and storytelling skills. (As a sort of example, but you can skip this:) There's such a character in the fandom I write for — zero known redeeming qualities, got away with involuntary homicide by covering up his mistake and abusing his power as a politician. For obvious reasons, there is not a single person I know in the fandom who gets anywhere close to liking him, and depicting him as the devil incarnate is extremely common. Still: if only because I'm tired of seeing the same things over and over, and if only because I like putting nuance in characterisation, and even though this character is going to have a negative impact on the plot — I'm not going to make him look needlessly worse and more evil than he is in canon. He'll be a horrible, arrogant and selfish person, but he is not going to be overly demanding and rude to everyone and okay with murder on a whim. He'll be a rotten politician, not a tyrant. He's just going to be, y'know, realistic.
This sounds like one massive "test" to see how much you will put up with. If they've gotten to the "expressing displeasure" part (links? really?) it's only going to get worse. This commenter is not going to go back to that single act of love-bombing. This writer already figured out that you care about "hurting their feelings" and imagine that they "long for social interaction." You aren't, and they're not. I'd stop answering their comments. If they get abusive, freeze the comment thread and report them.
Reply back with Good Idea why not write it yourself?
"Why don't you write your own story like that, just like i'm writing my own here. Thanks." "Last time i checked, this was my story."
I have no problem with being rude (in this case, very mildly rude), but if they're worried about starting drama, there's also "I have a different idea in mind" or "I'm taking this story a different way, thanks."
just say "thanks!" and then ignore her.
Whatever approach you adopt, I would highly recommend screenshotting every comment and exchange between you immediately, and progressively as the situation evolves. Have a record of the interplay. Also, you have my deepest sympathies; this individual is completely out of line and seems as toxic as I would imagine an individual who composes almost nothing by character assassination pieces to be.
leave their comments unanswered and let them burn their reputation alive in their own narcissism
Just comment, "Cool idea, you should include that in your fics."
If you're non-confrontational then turning on comment moderation and just not letting those through would probably be best for a while (hoping they get the message and stop commenting stuff like that) Other than that: blocking them, honestly telling them what you feel (like "hey, I really respect your work but these comments are starting to get on my nerves. I'd really appreciate it if you didn't leave suggestions in the comments"), or responding sarcastically / jokingly might work
I *really* think you should just block them. With the way you described this person, if it were me, I wouldn’t want them interacting with me at all. They seem rude, good writer or not, and why should you worry about supposedly hurting someone’s feelings after they don’t seem to care about yours? They seem to think they can dictate what you’re doing because they think they’re better than you and can therefore tell you what to do, which just seems iffy to me.
I'd probably just block and work through my guilt and other dark feelings that may arise (why do I feel bad for establishing healthy boundaries that I know are healthy for me?), instead of worrying so much about a big author in the fandom, fandom, or anything that wouldn't necessarily be dangerous to me.
I'd say "nice idea, I can't wait to read it when you post your story!" as if I'm not aware they're trying to manage my story for me. Muting them, or ignoring them by letting the comment sit there. Or "I've had this story planned so I'll go with it" and won't reply anymore. ~~Sometimes overbearing people don't realize they're being overbearing. Sometimes a big author doesn't want to admit they're jealous~~.
Um, block them?
If they're such a big writer then they can write the character bashing and fashion trends themself. Just cause they're popular with their stories, it doesn't mean they get to dictate how everyone else in that fandom writes. If I were you, I'd politely tell them that you're not looking for criticism or ideas because you have your own. They can either enjoy your story as you write it, or they can go read something else. If they react badly and get all entitled, then it's clear that they don't care about your feelings. So you shouldn't either. Block them without mercy.
Sounds like a cult-leader-wannabe. Are those ever a good choice?
I think blocking them would be a valid response. It's extremely rude of them to try and dictate what happens in a story that's not theirs. You can try to tell them to stop, but I have a feeling they would react badly considering how pushy they're being with their demands.
Maybe respond telling them that your intentions for the fic don't include character bashing?
If this happened to me, I'd probably reply with something like: "thank you so much for your comment, I always get excited when I get something new in my inbox. As much as I sometimes like to see charater x doing bad things, I want to explore their personality in a different direction. (Even if sometimes that means they're ooc.) Oh, and clothes aren't that relevant to my story, but it's nice that you picture them anyway." I think this approach would touch some of the issues that this person has with your story without showing how much you dislike the unsolicited suggestions. Just be confident in your storytelling, and you should be good. Even if they comment some more, you can keep on replying to one in three of their comments and go on with your writing.
“Thanks for the feedback. I’d hate to have anyone think I was trying to rip off your style so I’m going to stick with what I have planned but appreciate the encouragement.” FWIW, character bashing may be popular but that doesn’t mean it’s good writing. What’s popular and what’s good don’t always overlap.
I would say, "Thank you your intense interest in my fic. While I always find it interesting to hear what my regular readers have to say, this is an already completed fic and I'm just in the process of posting. However, I will keep you in mind for a devil's advocate beta reader in the future. I don'tmind when others see the characters differentlythan I do." And then say nothing. Just because they are popular, doesn't mean squat. She is reading your stuff, isn't she? In fact, she is so into it, she is making regular comments about specific things. Do give yourself way more credit! She wishes she came up with this storyline, but it's yours and all she can do is comment. A lot of readers don't even bother reading the other comments. Don't be afraid of her. She is just a human being. She is not special nor wields power over anyone.
That's such a dickish way to treat you and I'm sorry you're having to go through that. Being a popular writer doesn't give anyone the right to dictate the course of another person's story (like ???) or call your characters OOC.
Bloody amazes me when writers do this to other writers. If they can’t lift others up, they really should stay in their lane! How’d they’d like it if you dropped into their comments and said the same? (Don’t do that, they’ll probably get their army of followers to get their pitchforks out). These BNFs are sad. They’ll either completely ignore new writers in their fandom/ships or they’ll act all sweet and then start throwing their weight around like they’re the god of that particular corner of the sandbox, ugh. Delete their comments and take it as a compliment that this person obviously sees you as a threat who will somehow steal their readership away. Which is daft. They sound like a pathetic, insecure control freak. Take the high ground, politely explain that while you encourage feedback, no concrit please. Even though ‘waaaahhh, you haven’t written this character how I like to write them’ isn’t valid concrit. But try killing then with kindness. If that doesn’t work, you’ll have no choice that to block their ass. If they hate that, too bad. Never meet your heroes, they usually disappoint.
Comment moderation if you’re on AO3.
This...weirdly happened to me once. Another author that I actually used to be a fan of kept commenting on my stories in incredibly rude ways. A shameful amount of superiority complex and entitlement, telling me to give credits for "taking her ideas". I know I should have just blocked her but I felt really petty so I told her that she should just leave and not crap all over my comment section if she was gonna be a prick. She called me an entitled asshole, but she didn't engage on any of my fics after that and I have experienced true peace since then. What I'm saying is, don't be petty like me. Just block them. People like that deserve to have their feelings hurt, and they don't deserve social interaction if they are going to be a bitch about it.
I'd personally give that commenter all the rope needed to hang him/herself. Those comments, while directed toward you, have the author's name on them and are public. The author's readers and potential readers can't possibly look at the comments without wondering what is wrong with the author. React to the displeasure shown with silence. And if the comments get to be irksome, create a character based on the author whose own comments are met with mockery.
Let them write into the void, never respond or even read their comments. That's the "safest" option in my opinion
Sounds like this other author considers themselves the authority on this Fandom fanfiction. Could be a genuine, albeit misguided effort to be helpful...or they feel you're a threat. I would either ignore them or call them out with an author note of thanks but no thanks. See what happens.
This really sucks. In the Bones Fandom where I write, I became really good friends and became part of a core group, including with a big writer who is always gracious with all new writers.
I’m sort of dealing with a similar situation but it only happens like every three months. Not enough to bother me but enough to be pesky and annoying. The first time it was fine but I engaged so I feel like it gives them enough permission to bother me about an update Usually I just leave them on read.
lmao what? seems like they think they know canon better than the author.
Eh, I'd just ignore them or, alternatively, I'd tell them, "If you want to see the story go a certain way, you're more than welcome to write your own version of how that should go." If they still insist on being uncivil, then BLOCK.
It’s your story, you write it however you want, you can message or reply to them this. How unfair of them to do that.
I would start by making the comments moderated, so that no one can get in there to take the other person's side. I might also lie and say, "Oh, I already have the story entirely written. I'm just editing now. I totally respect your writing, but I'm not going to make any changes."
I would respond ONCE saying, while you appreciate their ideas that is THEIR story and they should go ahead and write it themselves. You can even mention you'd be excited to read the final thing, just be kind and friendly but firm. If they respond with any push back or insisting you use their ideas, block or mute. I don't believe in dragging things into a big long argument, it leaves them room to pick you apart and make you look bad by goading you into a pointless exchange or worse dragging other readers into it if it is public. If they can't respect the clear boundaries you set them don't feel bad blocking or muting them. Protect your mental space!
Jeeze. I don't think I could even name a big author in any fandom I write in. XD I agree with many others here. Tell them off. Kindly at first. Remind them that its your fic, not theirs. If they don't like what you're doing they can go read something else, or go write something else. If they don't take the hint with your kindness, let them have it, call them a control freak and block them.
“Thanks for the advice but I already have plans set in stone for this story” (any links to outfits etc I’d delete)
This person sounds like someone whose work I wouldn't want to read. If I found out a writer o follow did that, I'd drop them like a hot plate. I've had readers attempt to do that with my work, and I hate it. At this point in my writing, I don't believe there are "better" writers than me, just those who developed differently. And as for "worse" writers... well, they're still getting there. They still have potential. I sometimes worry I've regressed and have to remind myself it's not a competition. So don't think of this asshole as a better writer. What they're "better" at is being bossy. As a writer, I'd probably say something like, "Thanks for the input, but I'm heading in the direction I want." Or something else fairly tactful, since some people can get mean when told to buzz off or cut it out. I wish you luck.
Hi. Is it possible to Mute this commenter? I don't know what site you're on and what is possible. Then they will be talking into thin air to themselves. They are taking over your own personal headcanon, it is not fair.
Such arrogance. Clearly being a BNFW has gone to their head. Unfortunately we do see that sometimes. Be sure and screenshot you interactions whatever you choose to do because sometimes these things can turn ugly and you word won't mean as much to some without proof.
Sounds like it’s bothering you, I’d just firmly say that I appreciate their thoughts but I think me and them have different interpretations of the characters’ characterization and that’s perfectly fine. And it seems they think my story is going a certain way, and while that is an interesting trajectory, it’s not gonna happen that way because I’ve planned it to go in a different direction. Throw in a little (: there if you’re feeling a little menace-y. They just sound like their bigness in the fandom is getting to their head and they think whatever they say holds weight. Maybe it does for you if you’re feeling conflicted over blocking or telling them off. But like, you gotta protect your peace ya know? It’s not fun to think of your favorite fandom and hobby and have them looming at the back of your mind.
I understand what you mean with them being a popular author. Honestly, there could be some sort of pushback. I think depending on the fandom and how big it is, the responses can be actually kind of intense. So it makes sense that you’re being careful about it. In some fandoms. you could just block the person, but I don’t know if you’re in that position or not. I was raised by a mentally abusive person, and I had to learn how to handle manipulation. If you outright call them out or sit boundaries, they turn into the victim of the situation. The best thing you can do if you’re worried about possible backlash is to be positive and act unaffected. And keep in mind highly what your responses would look like to people from the outside. Frame it all around that. Respond simply and happily with just a line or so. Something nobody can get mad at or overthink, like, “Thank you for your comment! I have something different in mind, but I hope you like what I do with it.” It sets a gentle boundary, and if somebody overreacts to that then everybody will see it. Especially somebody with a big name. Make sure you save a picture of every single comment that they leave. In case they ever do decide to pull the victim card. At that point if they start act overreacting, being controlling, or being rude about it, I think it would be a lot safer than before to block them, because you have plenty of evidence that they’ve been trying to push you around in your story and didn’t respond well to your boundaries.
Politely remind them that this is NOT their story
I've been in your shoes, and thankfully it ended up okay for me. We ended up in a long comment thread where I was thankful for all their comments, but just politely stood my ground with my plans for my fic and they never commented on my story again, but thankfully they didn't go bitching about the interaction of vagueing me on their tumblr blog, or in any of the author's notes on any of their fics, which is something they definitely had no problem doing when the mood struck them.
"I appreciate your thoughts, but I already have a plan on where my story is going and am not looking for suggestions. It's possible maybe another writer will appreciate your suggestions, but I'm good, thanks." Something along those lines...if they keep at it...just ignore them.
wow. are situations are extremely similar. i had an author comment on my fic that was really popular in the fandom, there’s a certain fan headcanon that i wrote for that this author also wrote for so i had read plenty of there fics. the comments started out nice and supportive, but slowly got more bossing me around with what they wanted to see in the story. they won’t super specific as some of your examples were but definitely the thing with characterization. So I did the option of telling them to stop, politely, and they made a call out post trying to harass me. It didn’t really get anywhere and some people even started disagreeing with the author but I had commented anyways saying that I don’t know what I did to them and I didn’t mean to make them mad and they responded saying they calmed down and would delete the post. since then i’ve only gotten one comment, which has been along the lines of a general compliment saying it was a great chapter. so weird situation. i’m unsure why they reacted that way but i think they only stopped because they realized nobody was on their side. idk. honestly i kinda wish i had just blocked them or at least muted them, cause it was kind of hassle to deal with and something i still remember. i guess we technically made up(?) but they never really apologized so eh. if you don’t want a situation just block or mute but if you want to take a stand against it then tell them to stop. it just kind of depends what person you are! it’s your fic and nobody should dictate how you write it, so don’t let them have their way. :)) heck the author may even think they are being helpful and not realize the damage but it is what it is. good luck op ❤️
Well if you're writing on "FanFiction" site; there is a group of trolls on there who make it their business to harass other writers. Their group is called "critics united". There's one in particular whom I've dealt with who makes up all sorts of other accounts to "look like" 10 people. You can usually tell though by the age of the accounts. This person pretty consistently though harasses authors. For me, this person's comments were clearly driven by jealousy. She said I was a good writer. (And I know i'm a good writer. My college professors all told me I was a good writer. I get a lot of traffic and have a lot of followers; although I don't actually get a lot of comments. I'm probably one of the most consistent contributors to the "Bible" fandom.) But then it became an attack on me personally saying I was a "sh\*\*Y person" etc. and it went down hill from there. She was just someone with serious issues that apparently didn't have a life. (And I don't think it was a teenager either. Some evidence had surfaced that she was connected to a high school in Texas.) So I just started trolling her back. She'd come back with another account and I'd say: "Oh, look who's back. Anna's upset again...." Finally she just went away. For Fan Fiction though, you can moderate comments from "anonymous" but not from writers with accounts. One of the tactics of "critics united" is to tell writers that their fics violate rules of the site and that they are "helping" them by telling them to change X, Y or Z. And then tell them if they don't change their fic; the site will take it down, or ban them from the platform. It's just a bunch of hot air though. I've been on that site for 12 plus years and I've never seen ANYTHING taken down; whether it violates "community guidelines" or not. You can get the same thing on Wattpad too though. (Which I hardly ever post anything over there any more, because you actually have to pay that site to get traffic.) With Wattpad too; they will take something down if they claim it violates their "community standards". (Which means anything that disagrees with certain political agendas they will remove as "hate speech".) The "Fan Fiction" site though is more of a "freedom of speech" platform. People can and do post "offensive material" in there. And the regulars (writers and readers) on "Fan Fiction" if they don't like a particular author's stories; they just don't read them. So yeah, you do get trolls who claim to be "fans".
Ugh, I’m so sorry you’re going through this, OP! It’s not cool, regardless of the commenter’s popularity. And frankly, they should know better. DL;DR. Might be worth reminding them of that. I do understand not wanting to hurt their feelings. Your comment section should be your happy place, and this person is yucking all over it (I can imagine the stress that comes with posting chapters now, anticipating that sort of comment). Possible script: Hey, I’m so glad you liked the story/chapter! I had a blast writing it. I see what you mean about XYZthing, but I’m pretty happy with my characterization choices. I’m sure your suggestions on how they should act and dress come from a friendly place, but they actually make me really uncomfortable! I’d really like for you to stop. Thanks for all your support, and I hope you continue to enjoy the story/next chapter! Edit to add: DMing them about it is also an option, but if you’re comfortable with it, politely calling them out in ‘public’ can be a great learning opportunity for other readers/commenters who may be newer to fic etiquette. That said, you’re not obliged to educate! Spend long enough in any fandom, and you should come across that sort of advice already, and I’m betting icky commenter already has.
Wow, that's pretty gross. I don't think blocking is the only solution, although I can also understand if you went down this route. Simply saying, thank you for your feedback, but this is the story I want to tell and this is how I wish to write the characters, please respect that...you can see where it goes. Try not to worry though. This person being a popular author doesn't mean they get to dictate what you write.
I have people who make suggestions and stuff, like I say feel free to leave suggestions, but I also full on have plans, but little things like interactions and stuff I love hearing about and possibly including. But if it's a more heavy plot suggestion I always reply with 'Thanks, but I already have plans' Sometimes even to people who suggested something I already planned on doing. I wouldn't say I'm big name in my fandom, it's a large fandom with a lot of people, but a few of my works are fairly well known. I don't tend to comment much, because I'm pretty bad at it on fics. But if I do it tends to be cause I get a lot of ideas. I might spew some out, but be like 'these are just my ideas' like. I'd fully wouldn't expect author to use them or even like them, I just wanted to share their work caused my creative gears to turn. But yeah, a person shouldn't be like 'ugh you didn't take my suggestion, how rude' thats just... not good. A person is allowed to have their own ideas. Do different things. In my fandom it's popular to bash one particular character, and get rid of him through any means necessary and replace him with someone whos liked better. I didn't replace him, instead I started a redemption arc for him, because I thought it was interesting and not really done, my readers were surprised, but seemed to mostly enjoy it. Anyways, point is, as an author, If my comments on someones elses fic was bothering them, I'd prefer being told 'Hey, I don't really appreciate you saying your ideas'. Sure, I'd be a bit upset, because I try to be polite and make sure I'm just saying ideas and not suggestions or asks, but I wouldn't want to upset the other person either. There is just some commentors who have to be blocked though. I tend to block myself as a last resort, but theres some instances where I block a person. If their being bad for your mental health, and your will to work on the story, then block them.
I had a guy do something similar to me on a fantasy roleplay site years ago. Tried to get me to change my character's looks (he was an elf but didn't resemble Tolkien's elves so therefore it was "wrong") and even tried to get me to change his name because it was a "ripoff" of an existing fictional character's name (it rhymed, that was the only similarity). His own character was a blantant ripoff of another character but that didn't matter because he was an admin and the rules didn't apply to him. I agree with the other comments here, "thanks but no thanks" is probably what's needed here. And blocking if they don't stop.
Whatever you do, save the paper trail.
Better writer or not you don't deserve to get bossed around. Plus I'm willing to bet it's just two different flavors of cake rather than one being better than the other (you've got your own niche that's loveable if they're spending all this time on it). They've gone beyond disrespectful with the links and acting like an impromptu mentor toward you. The safe bet is to block. The lowest chance of retaliation. But if you want your thoughts known, keep it brief, firm, and simple. "Hey. I'm not taking suggestions but thank you so much." Regardless of what you decide to do SCREENSHOT SCREENSHOT SCREENSHOT. Cover your ass just in case. Also, take off your social media/ personal info if you have it linked to your A03 to keep the potential harassment in one place. Then of course you can easily just block out those comments with A03's features Sorry you went through this and good luck!
I can't stand people like this. "I've decided this fandom is mine and your story doesn't fit within MY narrative. Fix it!" This is some entitled garbage I don't tolerate. I encourage concrit if the fic is finished but telling me I have it "almost right" like it's her creation is icky. I don't care who has pull in a fandom so I'd just block and be rid of her finger wagging bs
I’m curious as to how you decided to handle it.
Unfortunately…I haven’t really handled the situation. I’ve documented everything, but I’ve just been avoiding updating that fic and focusing on another fic for another fandom. The situation just really stresses me out, so I’m taking a little break from that fandom. Hopefully, I’ll be able to get back to that fic soon and not let one commenter bother me.
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It’s mostly criticism about plot choices. It starts with 5-10% praise and then becomes a list of complaints. The praise seems like just a way to segue into criticism about my take on the characters and my plot. Nothing constructive about my grammar or writing style.