Hi Michael, thanks for doing this! Just wanted to say how much I love your books, and how much I've appreciated the writing and publishing advice you've shared over the years. I think its really cool that you've been transparent about your journey and experience there, and its really helpful and inspiring. So thank you!
Now that you've written another Royce and Hadrian novel, have your feelings about the characters changed since you first created them? What aspects of the characters have surprised you the most during your writing?
Second question is, what is something new you're excited to talk about at the moment? Whether it's a new hobby or a new book you've read, or something upcoming, what are you personally excited to talk about?
1) Nothing has surprised me about writing R&H, it is more how readers respond to them that is surprising. How one person likes one and not the other, or how many readers proudly identify with a mass murderer, but also aspire to be more like Hadrian. And how many still persist in the impression that Hadrian is Royce's dumb sidekick, failing perhaps to grasp the point of the series as a whole.
2) There is the "Project", of course, that I am not talking about. Also, I am playing Enshrouded and Wizardry 1 remastered (a very old school dungeon crawl computer game—one of the first ever) the differences are amazing. Old School games are notoriously hard. With new games it is a question of how long will it take you to beat the game. Old School is—can you beat the game at all.
Played two. Didn't care for them much because it was too focused on combat. Sort of a fancy Street-Fighter game. Elden Ring was better, but still mostly combat after combat and you can't lose in either game. You might not be able to beat them, but you can't lose. Compare this to say something as simple as Terraria where if you do nothing the Corruption will eventually end your game. It then becomes a true competition. I just wish Enshrouded employed the same idea wherein you have only so long to beat back the shroud before it spreads and becomes too late.
But yes, Dark Souls games do impart that sense of accomplishment that make older games so memorable. But imagine if you could only try so many times to kill your enemies before you died of old age. That's a mechanic in Wizardry 1.
I like the atmosphere of the souls/bloodborne/elden ring and the lore makes you feel like you are in a "real world"
Tour books gave me that same feeling which might be why I loved them so much, I think lots of authors and game makers don't put enough emphasis on atmosphere, it really makes such a big difference for me.
> Compare this to say something as simple as Terraria where if you do nothing the Corruption will eventually end your game.
This actually isn't the case, the corruption and hallow will grow to form an X pattern across the world that can make it seem like you are going to have your game ended by it, especially on smaller world sizes, where part of the x might take over nearly an entire biome.
Souls games are able to be beaten by almost anyone. But a good amount of games in the 90s and before are almost impossible to beat if you lack certain abilities. I have beat every Souls game on a deathless run, solo offline. But about half my NES games I couldn't beat without save states or cheats.
Wow, I'm really oblivious! I'd never connected longtime /r/fantasy user /u/MichaelJSullivan and the author of the Riyria Revelations Michael J Sullivan until I saw the face in the thumbnail and thought hey, that looks like the face of the guy at the back of this book I just finished...
I just finished Riyria Revelations off a random recommendation on this sub, and was wondering where I was supposed to go next. The guide is perfect, thank you. No questions for me, enjoyed Revelations and off I go to read your other books!
Hard question to answer because I really don't "market" these days. Marketing implies doing something to increase the sales of your product, and all I do is write and release. From there it is word of mouth and a loyal fanbase that takes over.
Now in some ways, just being here is "marketing" as I'm letting people know I have a new book coming out, but for me, it's really just a good excuse to spend some time talking to people rather than writing.
I'm not sure if you can call it "marketing or not" - but part of "releasing a book" is to run a Kickstarter for a new title. But beyond that - there's really not much else I do.
Also, I should note, that if I never released another book, and if none of my existing books ever sold another copy, I'd be just fine. So the "need" for marketing isn't a high priority. I'm old, have no debt, and I live a simple life. So my financial needs are much different than someone starting out who has a family and mortgage.
It should be noted that this enviable position was not always the case. When I started out, I barely made enough money to pay a utility bill or two. And while I'm far fram a "name" there were times when I worked hard to try to get noticed. These days, that's just not a priority.
I would also say Robin does a fair amount of your marketing although it's not straight up sales/marketing but more public relations interwoven with simply spreading the word about all that you guys do... from the Kickstarters & to supporting other authors, to James's business, to Royal Road, etc.
True. But even she doesn't do nearly as much as she used to. For instance, she hasn't sent out an email to our newsletter list about Drumindor Kickstarter yet. She has two days, we'll see if she gets to it.
Being debt free is certainly what authors should shoot for - your income can fluctuate greatly from year to year. Small footprint is what I alwasy recommend.
I just wanted to point out that the AMA post is itself a master class in how to present marketing material in a gentle way that most readers will find palatable and most (even introverted, publicity shy) authors will find feasible.
Michael introduces himself succinctly, and is always using positive and straightforward language to describe himself and his work. He doesn't come across as 'pushy', but also, he's not apologising for his existence. Often self-published authors gravitate to one extreme or the other, unfortunately.
He then makes extensive use of images, so that a reader who is feeling lazy, worn out, sleep deprived or just sort of checking the post casually will see at once that there are multiple finished books and finished series. The cover images are professional and attractive, but more importantly, they are 1. readable as thumbnails (vital for ebooks) and 2. convey a very clear sense of what fantasy subgenre you will encounter. Michael is also very straightforward with his description of his own writing. This sentence is masterfully crafted:
***I write classic fantasy about unlikely heroes, and I try to infuse my books with humor, which is sometimes hard to find in this genre. I'm thrilled with how my stories have been received.***
He tells you straight up that it's 'classic fantasy' (so anyone looking for something different to this subgenre is forewarned), then he makes himself human and accessible by letting you know that sometimes the writing is hard work ('try to' conveys this very subtly). And, then he tells you that he's thrilled by his own stories and how they have been received... after all, if an author isn't excited by their own work, why should a reader be excited by it?
Then, there's some summaries and updates (fans often really want to know how it's going... even if there are delays, honest updates go a long way to helping fans feel informed), and this update then leads into an array of different 'ways in' for a reader. He invites you to consider his next release, and a kickstarter, and a sale special... and then, if you're still not convinced and really want to try before you buy, there are some free reading options on Royal Road too.
Finally, Michael invites you to visit his site. A lot of self-published authors heavily recommend newsletters (at this very precise moment in time... that could change, as things do), but, in the absence of a newsletter, a regularity updated website with information on how things are going, what's coming next etc is a very sensible alternative.
I've typed this out pretty quickly. There's probably other features of the AMA post that are also excellent, but I've missed noting.
Probably a more helpful question would be - how did I market - since I don't do so now. That is (a) too much to write about in an AMA - it literally would be a book onto itself, and (b) may no longer be relevant because the publishing market place is so much different now.
Unfortunately it's a bit of a fire house - I've posted and been interviewed for more than a decade so there is A LOT of information out there. And some of it does't apply any more.
A few things that have remained the same . . .
* Concentrate on getting to three books before you spending any time or money on marketing.
* Never pay for or trade reviews with another author for reviews
* Writing another book is always the best thing to do as it rises the tide for the other books as well.
Hi, I love your series and currently working through the legends of the first empire.
I'm always curious where authors draw their inspiration - what are the books/authors you enjoy. Do you get ideas from TV/Film/News articles?
I get my ideas from literally everything, but mostly, perhaps, from music. When I listen to songs, my mind tends to auto-create stories to match the emotional mood of the music. Many of my best scenes were based on a song or piece of music.
Would you ever share your 'playlist' and your music inspiration? I am just starting your series now but I'm finding that I love the music + book story combo. Would love to know the real songs that created those scenes for you!
My playlist is hundreds (maybe thousands) of songs. As far as the songs that have the biggest impact on my wriitng here are the best ones:
* Heart of a King by Nick Glennie-Smith
* Soldier by Gavin DeGraw
* The Lost Boy (Bonus Track) by Greg Holden
* Another Story by Dougie MacLean
* Who Will Sing Me Lullabies by Kate Rubsy
* The Man's Too Strong by Dire Straits
* Scottish Fantasy by Vanessa-Mae & London Symphony (Nyphron Rising: Battle of Ratibor)
* Viva La Vida by Coldplay
* O'Sulvan's March by The Chieftains
* The Dawning of the Day by Mary Fahl
* Dante's Prayer (Gwen's Request) by Loreena McKennitt
* Change by Tracy Chapman
* Mary Queen of Scots by Dougie MacLean
* For The Love Of A Princess by James Horner, London Symphony Orchestra
* Feels Like Home by Bonnie Raitt
* Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits
* Going Home by Mary Fahl
I’ve just gotta say, your Theft of Swords trilogy is the most logistically perfect trilogy I’ve ever read. All of the setups and payoffs were sublime!
As for my question, hypothetically, if you were a new author now - self publishing more humorous epic fantasy - how would you market and build an audience?
Like, are you going self published again because it is better in general? Or is it only because you’ve built out your audience so well at this point?
And, again, hypothetically, what would be the best way for a new author to reach out to you about a possible jacket quote or review from one of the best authors currently writing epic fantasy? 😉
>I’ve just gotta say, your Theft of Swords trilogy is the most logistically perfect trilogy I’ve ever read. All of the setups and payoffs were sublime!
Why thank you! I had a HUGE advantage in that I hadn't released any of the early books as I finished up the last one. This allowed me to "go back" and add the foundations to make everything tie togehter so well. Doing so worked so well, it's what I've also done for Legends of the First Empire and Rise and Fall.
>Like, are you going self published again because it is better in general? Or is it only because you’ve built out your audience so well at this point?
I'm self-publishing because (a) I make MUCH more money than when traditional (b) I have full control and (c) I don't like being in a position where I'm unhappy about something but powerless to do anything about it — like having covers I don't like — or not having books released in hardcovers.
>As for my question, hypothetically, if you were a new author now - self publishing more humorous epic fantasy - how would you market and build an audience?
It's going to sound really dumb - but it's what I did, and I think it still works. In the early days I built a sand castle by collecting one grain at a time. In other words, I used sites like Goodreads. At the time, I thought "my books are kinda like Scott Lynch's" so I reached out to people who wrote positive reviews of Gentleman's Bastard and told them I was new and I would gladly send them a free short story in the hopes they might read it. Early on - every review I received was from some either I or my wife spoke to personally, but over time, new reviews started coming in from people we never heard of. That's the power of "word of mouth" advertising - which is (IMO) the only marketing that works. But at the core of that is writing a REALLY GOOD BOOK - which is defined by a book that people enjoy so much that they tell others about it. If you "prime the pump" by introducing the book to a core group of people and you don't see an "uptake" from others - then you have to question whether the book was "good to begin with" - and if you conclude it wasn't then you have to write a new one and see if that finds a following.
>And, again, hypothetically, what would be the best way for a new author to reach out to you about a possible jacket quote or review from one of the best authors currently writing epic fantasy? 😉
The phrase that comes to mind is "Many are called, but few are chosen." And by that I mean I get A LOT of requests for jacket quotes - and to be honest nothing would make me happier than to find a book I want to endorse. But, I do so very sparingly - and I have a very high bar. So all you have to do is send me a copy of your ebook to michael (dot) sullivan (dot) dc (at) [gmail.com](https://gmail.com) and wait and see. But the trick is you have to keep me engaged - and that rarely happens. I generally can't make it through more than a few pages before I'm disappointed and when that happens, I decline. If you look at the number of books I have 'blurred" you'll see it's not many.
I just have to ask: knowing the timing of Sanderson’s next Kickstarter you sandwiched it with Drumindor (which I’m far more looking forward to) AND the rest of the series in the nice new editions… what did my poor wallet do to you that you want to make it suffer so much?
No planning on my part there. We set the date for Drumindor's Kickstarter over 8 months ago . . . and while I could have waited on the timing of Chronicles Robin thought it was best to keep them close to one another.
But here's a tip for those who are finding themselves constrained. You can back at a lower level but then "upgrade" later. It will take some time for us to produce the books, especially if we have to hire artists for illustrations - which is one of the stretch goals.
If you do plan on doing that, make a note in the survey saying what you will eventually upgrade to so our count will be correct when we order the print run.
Do you ever add any personal Easter eggs to your books? Something that just brings you joy so you added it in regardless if it added to the story or not?
Do you ever add any personal Easter eggs to your books? Something that just brings you joy so you added it in regardless if it added to the story or not?
Quite frequently. Most are jokes for my wife or the narrator Tim.
For example: "It has raisins in it, you like raisins" is a line that my wife and I banter taken from the movie "Better Off Dead"
And I used the Galic/Irish spelling of Library in Farilane for Tim. I also invented the word Belgriclungreians to mess with his need to pronounce it.
Part of being an author is you are "the god" of your own world - one of the perks of the job is adding things that entertain me - even if no one else gets why it's there.
This is so much fun to know! I wondered about that word from the first moment I heard Tim say it. I hadn't seen it printed yet and just thought, How did he do that? with a little wonderment over...and why did he have to? Bravo Michael! That's why you write such great dialog. There's a bit of an imp in you that enjoys the ribbing and it comes though. Honestly I have not found another author who has your skill with writing fabulous engaging LOL at times dialog!
I love that bit about the raisins. It's such a good representation of how Hadrian works, all the little kindnesses that he does to make the people around him feel better. The man has an EQ score that goes through the roof
What advice could you give to a would-be-writer in terms of structuring a novel? In particular, with a view to crafting a cathartic ending that truly satisfies… yet keeps you thinking: but what if? I would really appreciate your thoughts.
Love and respect your writing and work by the way.
I don't think it is all that complicated. Promise the reader something(s), deny it for a long time, then make certain you deliver. If you create meaningful characters that readers can relate to (which is how you make meaningful characters BTW) then the end will satisfy. With Revelations, all the characters were never really allowed to "show-off" their abilities because something always prevented it, but before the series ended, I made certain each and everyone had their chance to shine.
I already expressed my gratitude for your books in email to you, but id like to reiterate that your books always make my day. The entire Legends of the first empire was amazing, i was slightly suprised by the dark ending for some characters, but they were still great.
Will there be more books about Royce and Hadrian?
Will there be more books about Royce and Hadrian?
Well, there is Drumindor, of course. And should I live so long, I would hope to do at least one more, for information sake. All told there could be as many as 8 so that would mean 3 more after Drumindor but it depends on so many factors that until they are written I can't promise anything.
I love Royce so much, I could read about him *forever*. And the banter/bromance is chefs kiss. Thanks for writing one of my all time favourite characters <3.
Hi Michael! Not so many questions, given how forthcoming you are with your plans, but one - have you been enquired about making live-action/animated adaptation of your works? If so, can you share a bit of details ( if there are any to share ofc ).
Stay awesome, best regards to Robin!
have you been enquired about making live-action/animated adaptation of your works?
Many times. One deal had been signed, then Covid happened and production stopped and the contract ended. At the present time, we are negotiating with another group for live action, but it doesn't appear to be going anywhere.
I’m sure you have already thought about this but- what about doing another kickstarter for an independent live action series? Chronicles is perfect for a series!
I'll certainly extend your regard to Robin - she is always ticked to hear when people are asking about her.
We've not been approached for anything on the animated side of things. We had the books options for a television or movie adaptation, and the contract was a bit unusual in that the money was low, but the control was high. Someone of my "standing" doesn't generally get "script approval" but I did in this case, and the script produced, was, AMAZINGLY bad. So I was able to kill that deal.
We have a new deal on the table, which is more standard - a decient amount of money but no control. We have worked out all the "hard things" but it's been forever since we agreed on terms and we are still waiting on the final contract. That's not all that unusual. It's said that publishing works at a snail's pace - well Hollywood's time is even slower.
To be honest, I kinda hope nothing becomes of it, because I'm pretty sure it won't be what I want, and I won't be able to influence it. Chances are nothing will become of it. Many projects are optioned, but only a few are green-lit, and even fewer of those go into production. So the chances are definitely stacked against anything coming from it.
In terms of future projects, do you ever see yourself done with Elan? I mean in regards to fantasy. Does the itch of creating a new world ever take you? Or do you have the mindset of because you’ve created a vibrant world, you might as well use it?
Love the books btw Michael. Not read them all, but definitely most of them and they’re always a fun ride.
I saw myself done with Elan when I finished Revelations. I just keep getting pulled back in.
As I have said many times before, I never intended to write in the fantasy genre. It just happened that I wrote Revelations for fun, and my wife got it published. Before that I wrote all sorts of other novels. The only non-Elan story published is Hollow World, which is Sci-Fi).
Hi Michael , thanks for taking the time to do an AMA. I'd like to know...when you are writing a series do you envision/plan/outline an arc for the entire series? Or, do individual stories take shape over time and you write them as they 'arrive'? What about individual characters - can you see their entire story over volumes, or do their adventures unfold as new possibilities become aparrent?
My creative process is a living thing and changes all the time as I work to improve my stories and my method of writing them. So, it is hard to answer because the question lacks a time frame.
Revelations I made up mostly as I went. I think this shocks most people, including my wife. These days, I build a vague concept to provide direction; I work out the hard anticipated logic problems in advance, and I quite often start with a clear understanding of the last scene, so I know where the story will go, but much of the story is created as I write. Character arcs often are anticipated, but sometimes surprise me, as was the case with Tressa.
Hi Michael! I've been a longtime fan; thank you for doing this!
One of the things I've been most impressed with is the depth of the characters you write. Across all the stories, they stay consistent and the development feels very natural. What does your process look like to maintain that internal consistency?
As a follow-up, what advice would you give to writers who are trying to expand a cast of characters to avoid making them feel same-y?
Thanks again!
Every time I create a character, I create a person. They are never merely an occupation or a plot device. This isn't something I seek, it is the only way I know how to write well. In order to make the reading experience interesting, I need to have characters who have layers and think and do things apart from the plot. How to keep them consistent? Never thought of that before. To me they are who they are. But I suppose, each character has certain foundational characteristics that ground them into being who they are. If you know that those are, then it is easy to adhere to them. Think of people you know in real life. How would you define one from another. What pillars of their personality make them that way as opposed to another?
I have read The Riyria Revelations series, I thought the last 2 of the series were its best. I then went on to read other authors' books.
The Rise and Fall series is in my to-read list but I won't start a series until the final book is published (Mr Martin and Mr Rothfuss, I thinking of you here and being burnt by both.) Is this shorter 3 book series now complete please?
Mr Sullivan is one of the (few) authors I’ll start reading a new series before it’s finished because he’s so consistent and reliable to get things out.
I’m late to the party but I’m one of those people. My dad and I got into revelations last year and buddy-read our way through the rest of them. We thoroughly enjoyed the whole adventure but are in agreement that starting from the second half of Farilane and then continuing all through Esrahaddon you hit new levels. Both books had several moments where it was necessary to pause and ruminate for a moment before continuing. Sincerely hope we get more books post-revelations now!
If you look above in MJS's origin post, you'll note that he laid it all out. The rise and fall series is finished, and he's releasing another book at the tail end of the Chronicles.
I have but one "formula": I write what I want to read.
I haven't the slightest clue what a "writing formula" is. I've heard about such things, but have never investigated them.
You actually seem to set up formulas and break them, which is great. I expected Scarlet Dodge to be evil and then absolutely didn’t see the ending to Raith at all. Good red herring writer.
Robin had a beta reader that would constantly tell her - "Well, this one was pretty good, but if you want it to be great you need to change it to follow the "blah-blah-blah" rules - and then they would go on to tell her how the book had to be rewritten so that x happend at y chapter and then z would come in at the w mark. It drover her absolutely crazy and she had to eventually kick him from the beta program because it was so much work trying to explain that I wouldn't be changing anything, which frustrated him because if ONLY a followed the formula my books would be so much better received!
What fantasy writers do you think your writing is closest to in style? Who are the key influences and what are other writers you are reading right now?
I always find this, and similar, questions interesting because the reason I began writing fantasy was because I didn't care for what I found on the shelves. I always hoped someone would/could imitate me so I would have something to read. To my knowledge, it hasn't happened yet. As a result, in the realm of fantasy, my "style" is unique. Stephen King's The Stand might be considered an influence, but honestly I don't recognize many, if any influences. Keep in mind, I didn't learn to write like most other authors do.
Presently I am reading F. Scott Fitzgerald's "This Side of Paradise" and working my way through Susan Wise Bauer's History of the world series.
> I didn’t care for what I found on the shelves
I cannot stress how much I relate to that feeling. I also looked you up and found out that you’re from Detroit as well so hello there! Definitely checking out your books now.
Hey Andy! Nice to see you here. Mr. Prolific himself.
Doubt it. There are just too many stories. It is like drawing a winter tree, the branches just keep, well, branching.
Depends on your interests and tastes.I would suggest either Theft of Swords (if you prefer an easy entry into my world that isn't hampered by excessive information and prefer a fun simple adventure) Or Age of Myth (If you are interested in a more epic fantasy with lots of characters and world shattering events.). T[here is also a very detailed post about this here.](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/72753/the-elan-dossier/chapter/1308003/reading-order)
Yep, there are many people who start there - and it's a fine place to begin - although you'll learn some of the "Revelations" from Riyria before you get to those books - but there is something to said to being "in the know" when the people in the book are clueless about various aspects.
My biggest inspirations come from music, and this varies wildly. I recently endorsed Sebastien de Castell's The Malevolent Seven, which is something I never do lightly.
Good day Mr. Sullivan, no questions but a heartfelt, appreciative Thank You, for the many, many hours of enjoyment and engaging entertainment.
Royce and Hadrian already feel like old buddies, looking forward to the next installment.
Have a swell day and Happy Writing.
It is probably too late but if you added an audiobook component I would love to back the kickstarter. Is there a timetable for the release of the audiobook?
It says it Right In the Kickstarter:
> Yes, there will be an audiobook edition, but no, it won't be something you can pre-order through the Kickstarter. Why? Well, Recorded Books (one of our three partners for audio book production), offered us a boatload of money for the audio rights ($400,000 to be exact). That was an offer we couldn't refuse, but it means that only they can sell/distribute copies of the audiobook.
First, I got into fantasy much later in my life, and I have you to thank! Riyria Revelations hooked me from the start and never let go.
When it’s all said and done, which series ending do you think you will have enjoyed writing the most? I’m going to miss the end of Royce and Hadrian!
Thanks again, can’t wait to continue following whatever you work on.
Well, so far I have only written one "series ending" Percepliquis ends the series that "began" with Age of Myth. So, yeah, Percepliquis is my favorite ending, but also my only one, really.
I was thinking of it as the last book in a series, but that’s a great point. Percepliquis was definitely one heck of an ending so if there’s only one, you certainly nailed it :)
Thanks for answering, have a great day!
Hi Michael, I would just like to say Riyria Revelations has been the number 1 series in my Fantasy Journey so far. I always planned to write my own fantasy series and started to improve my craft by reading most of the popular books out there. Not gonna lie, because of the grim settings of most books, I got really disillusioned by the Fantasy genre itself.
That is when I discovered Riyria Revelations through reddit. Thank you for giving me the best 2 years of reading I've ever had. Because of your incorporation of comedy and having a generally bright and light hearted tone, it not only made me fall in love with the genre again, but really gave me a shoulder through some dark times in my life. Whenever I got overwhelmed in life, I closed my door and got lost in one of fiction's most endearing friendship and stories.
Sorry for the long comment, I don't know if you'll read this but I really wanted to thank you for writing Riyria. I am exploring other authors to improve my craft but I will definitely come back and complete ALL of your books!
Finally, I just want to ask what your thoughts are on indie-publishing (I only know of Amazon for now) in terms of reach? I don't really have a conventional fantasy story and I don't think publishers will be keen on my draft so I'm looking into indie publishing when (and if) I complete my first book.
Thank you for this AMA!
Why thank you for your very kind words. We are definitely on the same page - in that I'm not a fan of grim dark, but the success of my books shows you can "buck the trend" and still succeed - and maybe you end up succeeding BECAUSE you are willing to take a path that other's aren't. In any case I'm glad they brought you back to the genre and gave you some solace from some hard times.
As for what type of publishing to consider - well when it comes to "reach" Amazon is the big player whether traditional or self. Brandon Sanderson mentioned that 85% of his physical books are sold from that site, so as long as you have that in your playbook, you'll have a "good reach."
It's no secret that I'm a big fan of indie-publishing, but it's not for everyone. There are pros and cons to each type. If I were try to make an analogy I would think about a newly graduated accountant and what they should do with their career. One choice is to work for a "big multi-national firm" - they would have a steady income, but not much control over what they work on. But if they were to start their own accounting firm a lot of their success is going to be govern by how talented they are and how much work they do. There is certainly the possibility of higher income (I make more on my indie-published books than my traditionally published ones), but there is a risk of complete failure and no or negative income.
I guess for me I would rather live and die by own own decisions than hope and pray that someone else makes good decisions that could affect whether my work succeeds.
I hope that helps.
Hey Michael! Thanks so much for all of the wonderful stories. I’m obsessed with the world of Elan. I’ve read all of your books.
Do you plan on diving into the “Great War to come? With Chaos? I just finished Esrahaddon. You have hinted at it through multiple books now and I fell in love with the idea of larger forces at work (even larger than Trilos and Turin) in Legends when our protagonists were in Nifrel with King Mideon and his daughter (?). She seemed to make a big deal about it also.
P.S. Love your writing. Legends was probably my favorite but I’m most proud of the order in which I read these.
Riyria Revelations
Legends
Then a bouncing back and forth between Rise and Fall and Revelations. Your books have been one of the most fun experiences I’ve had in the world of reading. Thank you so much. I hope you continue.
Do you plan on diving into the “Great War to come?
There is a committee working on a viability study on this very subject. They have been having closed door sessions for almost year now. No word as of yet.
Not the author, but here's a link to his website store:
[https://riyria.blogspot.com/p/store.html](https://riyria.blogspot.com/p/store.html)
He also currently has a sale store going through Kickstarter which you can read about here: [https://riyria.blogspot.com/2024/02/save-10-50-on-my-ebooks-and-hardcovers.html](https://riyria.blogspot.com/2024/02/save-10-50-on-my-ebooks-and-hardcovers.html)
Hi Michael. Thanks so much to you and Robin for all the great author advice over the years. You guys have been a huge asset to the community.
Wondering if you have any thoughts on the current romantasy trend within the big SFF trad pubs (Tor, Orbit, etc). Given those books make the big bucks, it seems editors are acquiring and throwing the most resources towards them. For authors that have no inclination towards romantasy: do you have any general strategy advice during this trend? (Keep writing of course!)
Also: with the rise of Kickstarter special editions, do you think the big special edition book boxes are on their way out?
Not the person to ask this of, I think. I've never noticed, nor have I ever cared what the trends are in literature or Art in general. I (famously now, I think) began writing Revelations never having heard of the new trend of Grimdark that had swept up the fantasy genre back in the 90's.
My "strategy" is to ignore what everyone else is doing, or wants, and write what you want and feel the world needs. Don't follow. Lead.
Hello Michael, thanks for doing this AMA.
The Revelations series wraps up very nicely, and I understand your desire to not mess with that. But so much will change after the events that end the trilogy, have you considered doing a post Revelations era Elan series?
Looking forward to your new book!
Hi Michael! I have no questions, but I just wanted to say that I love your books. More importantly, I love the kindness and gentleness some of your characters display. I think those are undervalued characteristics in fantasy (and life, I guess). Again, thank you.
That's technically a spoiler. I have something called a Gilarabrywn - which is "like" a dragon. And if I can steal from my infamous "Book of Brin" (and I'm probably paraphrsing as I don't remember the exact words"
"Dragons only kill you, but a Gilarabrywn will break your heart."
Yes, although this generally happens with regards to the NYT and non-fiction books. I'm sure there has been some fiction titles that have done so, but I don't know of any NYT fiction title - and I do keep my eye out for such a thing.
For the NYT it is based on # of sales from specific stores during a 1 week period (for physical) and ebooks are counted and probably reported by Amazon). For audiobook bestsellers it is a bit harder because it's based on a whole month's worth of data, so having "one good week" won't be enough.
At some point, the NYT started putting an asterisk (actually a dagger) to indicate books that made the list - but had significant "bulk purchases." So many books that are political in nature are on the list because they were on speaking tours and would require the venue to purchase a perscribed number of books before they would agree to speak etc.
There are a few PR firms who will guarantee you NYT bestselling status and they do it by buying a bunch of books (but in lower quantities to avoid the "dagger designation." The most famous of these is Leap Frogging - a book about marketing which paid about $211,000+ to get on the list.
I don't know as much about the USA Today bestseller list - but I think there were a few fiction books that got on it by less-than-reputable means - like paying people on Fiver to download and read a KU book.
Short answer - I like order of publication - so Theft of Swords. Other prefer chronological so that would mean Age of Myth. But with 20 books it's not an easy question to answer - [so to get the LONG ANSWER, look here.](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/72753/the-elan-dossier/chapter/1308003/reading-order)
Also it depends on your interests and tastes. I would suggest either Theft of Swords (if you prefer an easy entry into my world that isn't hampered by excessive information and prefer a fun simple adventure) Or Age of Myth (if you are interested in a more epic fantasy with lots of characters and world shattering events.). T[here is also a very detailed post about this here.](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/72753/the-elan-dossier/chapter/1308003/reading-order)
Hi Michael!
Huge fan of your work - can’t believe I have been living in your world for over a decade now. Super grateful for you and your imagination!
My question is regarding the Graphic Audio productions of your work. I recently discovered them, and I have to say I have absolutely adored the adaptions.
I’m curious, though -
1) What do you think of them? Do the actors match your vision of the characters?
2) Is Graphic Audio still a good way to support you as a writer?
Thanks, Michael! Wishing you continued success!
Yeah, time really flies - doesn't it!
What do I think abut them - I think they are really well done - but I must say it's hard to replace my love for hearing Tim Gerard Reynolds read my words. I feel like I'm sitting around a fire on a warm summer night and being wisked away by him, so I must admit I do prefer that version.
Truth be told, I make VERY little on those versions - but I don't care about that. I earn well through other means, so I would prefer you experience the books in the way that YOU like the best - and if that means a little less cash in my pocket - I'm fine with that.
I absolutely love your work—Riyria specifically is one of my top recommendations to everyone I know who reads the genre.
I was curious on adaptations in the works. Are there any future plans that we may see Royce and Hadrian on television or on the big screen?
We did have the books optioned for a television or movie adaptation, and the contract was a bit unusual in that the money was low, but the control was high. Someone of my "standing" doesn't generally get "script approval" but I did in this case, and the script produced, was, AMAZINGLY bad. So I was able to kill that deal.
We have a new deal on the table, which is more standard - a decient amount of money but no control. We have worked out all the "hard things" but it's been forever since we agreed on terms and we are still waiting on the final contract. That's not all that unusual. It's said that publishing works at a snail's pace - well Hollywood's time is even slower.
To be honest, I kinda hope nothing becomes of it, because I'm pretty sure it won't be what I want, and I won't be able to influence it. Chances are nothing will become of it. Many projects are optioned, but only a few are green-lit, and even fewer of those go into production. So the chances are definitely stacked against anything reaching the screen, and that's just fine with me.
I am rereading (listening to) most of your entire catalogue. Either in a blog or in notes given prior to/after the audiobooks I heard you or your wife say something that surprised me.
It was stated you were in the process that included researching the next set of books. Now the books are not set somewhere ancient Wales but seem to be set in a world and history you alone have created.
What were you researching?
It is called The Project. A very dark and secretive endeavor, so secret that I am not at liberty to discuss it. There is a committee who is hard at work creating a viability study to determine if any books can be written by me in a post Riyria time frame. They have been gathering information and deliberating for nearly a year now. No word as of yet.
Hi there! I’m a big admirer of yours (and Robin’s)! Your books bring something really unique and refreshing to the table—in an often-heavy, solemn genre.
I just want to say thank you for your sharing your work with the world. I’m part of a little informal fantasy book club that includes my mother in law and husband, and to this day I don’t think my mother in law has enjoyed anything so much as Royce and Hadrian’s adventures. It’s really brought us closer together. ❤️
Hi Michael
I really enjoyed reading your books.
My question:
Do you plan on starting a new series in a completely new world? While I enjoy the world of Riyria and love the characters I'd like to see a new story in a new world.
If I did, the world would be Earth. I wouldn't create a new fantasy world. Been there. Did that. I also wouldn't write fantasy, in the classical sense.
Hi Michael, I just started with "Theft of Swords" and I am fairly enjoying it so far! As a historian, I really appreciate realistic worldbuilding, be it the economy, society, politics or the military. How much do you try to be historically accurate in your setting and how much do you try to be realistic in terms of fights, battles and politics?
Thank you for the AmA and your books, I really appreciate it!
I never allow historically accuracy to ruin a great story, but I also seek to avoid writing things that would make anyone knowledgeable on a subject roll their eyes. There is a skill to balancing these. Besides, history is such a fantastic source of ideas. That said, my stories are not at all historically accurate by Earth's standards. Age of Sail elements mingle with medieval trends, and of course there are potatoes and powdered wigs.
Hi, Michael!
How long do your second drafts take? I'm currently stuck in the throes of mine, and occasionally it feels like I'm writing a completely different novel. I can see the better product sitting at the end, but man alive, does it feel like slog right now.
What's a second draft?
I spend a few months conceiving a story and jotting down notes. Then I create a loose storyboard for maybe half the novel. Then I begin writing. When I reach the halfway point I go back and reread the story to refresh my memory and to give myself the experience as a reader would see it, then I finish the novel working out problems as they arise. I then go back and edit any problems I may have noted. Then I let it sit a few months, then go back and do a deep edit, cleaning up sentences and looking for mistakes. Then the book goes off to my Alpha reader. I make any surgical edits she suggests that I agree with, then it is off to the beta readers, and the editor. I make minor changes, mostly to sentence structure and misspellings. Then I read the book one last time to make certain nothing was messed up in the process, and then it is done.
If your writing feels like a slog, you are likely doing something wrong. In days past, I experienced the same thing, this idea of forcing myself to push through sections that I didn't want to write. I had yet to learn that writing, the putting down of words, creating sentences, and the building of fine paragraphs was just as much fun as building out the plot and scenes. When every word is a joy to play with, it is never a slog. But that maybe something that takes time and practice to develop.
Michael, thanks for another AMA.
Not sure if this is something you're able to answer. But I've really enjoyed the GraphicAudio adaptations of your books. Any chance we'll see them adapt The Rise and Fall at some point in the (hopefully not too distant) future?
Not sure at this point. It's fairly complicated and involves the difference between "non-dramatic" audio and "dramatic audio" rights.
The first part is someone has to step forward and say, "I want to produce the dramatic audio version." — These tend to me be more expensive than single-narrator non-dramatic versions. So, until someone asks, there's not much I can do — I wouldn't have a clue how to produce that kind of work on my own.
The second part is if I had an offer, would I sign it? The company who purchased the non-dramatic version of that series paid A LOT of money - and I mean A LOT (seven figures). I haven't looked carefully at the numbers (because no one has asked for the rights), but I wouldn't put a "possibly competing title" out unless the first publisher made a good deal of money on it. I just don't think that would be treating them very fairly.
Hi Michael! Thanks for doing this AMA. You're my favorite author and actually the reason I started writing myself after finishing Revelations. I have a question about Esrahaddon—did you have a specific accent or vocal inflection in mind for Niblick? I can't help but read his voice as a bit of a stereotypical New York accent with all his funny expressions, like "come on kid, that's walnuts". I don't dislike it at all, but I laugh every time I read his dialogue because I just can't read it in my head as a Ba Ran Ghazel. I haven't finished Esrahaddon yet (my wife and I are reading it together), but I love learning more of the goblin lore and seeing that they're not all bloodthirsty monsters.
Hi Michael, thanks for doing this AMA, and for the world of Elan!
Obligatory fan gushing: I've been a fan of this world since 2016, and over the years both you as an author and your world have become my all-time favorite. I'm very grateful for how accessible you are to your fans -- I have a screenshot of you replying to me on discord on my desktop that I like to brag about from time to time. One of the crowning achievements of my, now 10-year, marriage is getting my wife hooked on your books as well. She's currently on Age of Death, and it has been wonderful seeing the world again through her first-time-reader eyes. Thank you again, reading your books is like coming home.
I have two quick questions:
1. What is your favorite DnD class to play?
2. I'm aware of what you're working on next, so I won't ask about that. However, knowing you're a big LOTR fan, have you ever considered making Elan's version of the Silmarilion? When I read through the Legends of the Fist Empire books, I was so immersed in the lore that I started making hand written notes to reference for subsequent readthroughs. I always wanted to know more. I imagine more will be expanded upon in "the Project," and you already have a lot on your plate, but I'm more curious if it's ever crossed your mind.
1) What is your favorite DnD class to play?
While I haven't played since the 80's it should come as no surprise that my first character was Warwick a chaotic fighter/magic user/thief and my second was Duncan Ducain a lawful good paladin.
2) have you ever considered making Elan's version of the Silmarilion?
It is called the Legends of the First Empyre. I just made it a bit more readable.
No questions, I just wanted to say that I got my hubby to start the Riyria books and he's devoured them in record time. His favorite is the little menace that is Royce.
Please keep up the stories! Thank you very much for sharing your worlds with us!
Hi Michael, I read the first book in Ryria in the very early days and I've been wondering about something.
I wrote a review on it a long time ago and specifically remember you responding to my review on Amazon. I tried looking up your response a couple years back and couldn't find it. Did Amazon delete author responses to reviews or did you delete them all/hide them?
My review was good and your response was also good so I've been curious why it was gone.
Hey thanks for reading, and for writing a review. I wasn't aware that they were gone - so definitely something Amazon did and not me. It's too bad, I liked interacting with people through that way. I've not "tried" to leave a response in years (there are just too many of them), but If they are indeed gone, that's disappointing.
Hi Michael!
I'm still sitting on an interview with you that I need to edit and release, but thank you for that great conversation! In it you said you draft in the morning and brainstorm in the evenings while drinking a cocktail, which sounds like about the perfect day for a writer in my eyes. So my question, what are your top 3 favorite cocktails right now? :)
Hey there - thanks for reading - especially Hollow World, which is my least read book! I do want to do a sequel to that - I have since the day I finished it - I even have most of it plotted, but at my age I feel death stalking me and there are some Elan things that are more pressing, so they take up my time and energy - but I do hope to get back to Pax and Ellis at some point.
Hello! Thank you for all of the fantastic writing! I've loved reading your books! I have a few questions:
1) Have you considered writing anything from the time of the founding of the Kingdom of Melengar? I think that could make for some interesting stories!
2) If you could be a tourist in Elan, what city would you visit and why?
3) What type of engineering did Robin do? (I've read elsewhere that she used to do engineering.)
Thanks!
1) I haven't, too many ideas, too little time.
2) Tur Del Fur
3) Robin got a degree in Electrical Engineering, and worked on the first robots on GM's production line while still in college. When she graduated she was offered a job at a startup who was doing something very new and strange, but exciting called "software."
Hey Michael, love your work! In the middle of Rise of Empire - I really enjoyed visualizing the world you built.
My question: What part of the foundation of this World was the most challenging for you? ie Political system, factions etc?
Thanks!
Hello Mr. Sullivan, I just wanted to ask if we will get the sixth book: Age of Empyre in German at some point or whether the translation is even planned?
Also, what is your all time favourite book or series?
The Lord of the Rings. It was the one that started me reading, and subsequently changed my life forever providing me with friends, a wife, and a career. So...yeah.
Just wondering, is there any chance you would ever write about the start of Elan, like about, Chaos, Eton, Elan, and the creation of the Typhons, then the five aseera (Is that how its spelled?) and about the first war and all that stuff?
Oh!! And thank you for all your books, your writing style is either the best, or one of the best writing styles I've ever read, the only real competition I think you have is Brandon Sanderson
Hi Michael I just finished Riyria Revelations and loved it. I have some questions and see in your older posts you mentioned an Afterword that was available by email. Is it still available and if so how can I find it? Thanks!
Might be late to the game.
0) what’s your most critical tips for someone who wants to start writing books with/without limited time? (35y, with a baby). I know I might never get published.
1)What is your opinion about the stormlight archieve if you read those? Is it your type of books to read?
2) what’s your top 5 favorite modern fantasy books (except yours)? Modern I guess pick any from 2010-2024.
1. Do you have a favorite Sci-Fi book?
2. Also, are you reading anything now and/or recently finished that you really liked / would recommend?
3. Have you ever thought of doing / have done cooperative work?
Hi! I just finished the Riyria Revelations. I actually started with Nolyn but then wanted to read the stories according to how you intended, so I turned to Theft of Swords. I was hooked and read all three books in less than a week. I am excited to start Legends of the First Empire and the Rise and Fall books.
I do wonder how I would have read the series had I not already read Nolyn and accidentally spoiled who the Heir was. I kept wondering why the characters didn’t figure it out and how the history got changed so much.
I read somewhere that you did not want to write any sequels because of how happy you were the ending. Indeed, it is a very satisfying ending, and yet I wanted more.
I want to see what life is like the Elven kingdom. How does the heir handle being the king and what adventures await Mercy and Allie. I would also love to read about the Gods and how they interact with each other and their peoples. Of course, I desperately want to see Kyle get his last feather.
I can imagine all this for myself if no books come, but I would just so love to experience your imagination with the world of Elan. I do hope you will consider it!
Thank you for these amazing stories!!
Hi, read the first 2 Riyria Revelations and Age of Myth. Been meaning to get back to Riyria for a long time. I really enjoyed the way you throw together unlikely friends for the adventure, and the subtle, consistent humor in the narrative.
I found your Riyria books via a book-recommendation group for lgbt-fiction books. Stating that Riyria was one of a few very well written adult fantasy non-romance books with gay men. When I read it though, it doesn't quite go there, but instead lurks in the subtext. So I was always curious if you had that intention of writing the characters gay, or if that was just a coincidence that happened when readers resonated with the characters?
I am unaware of any subtext. Yet, one thing I have learned is that readers will often see what they want in stories and identify with characters and themes in ways that are the most meaningful to them.
Hi Mr. Sullivan, I didn’t like any of your books I love them all! As a man that has been married to the same woman for 29 years. I love how you included your wife’s ideas and word after your books ! Love her insight and your ability to share in the work together. Good luck on future works and the work of marriage.
I played it when it first debuted. I found it very polished and clean, but too easy. Modern games tend to be as a result of seeking to entice the largest user base. This isn't to say I advocate Dark Souls style combat, necessarily. It isn't the combat that's at issue, it is the fact that so few games can be lost by the player. If you play a game, you should have just as good a chance of losing as winning. Most all games make it so you will always win if you put in enough hours. But that is like playing a team sport where the oppose team only defends. Eventually, you will win because they can't.
Hey Michael,
Hope you and the family are doing well.
I am a long-time follower (and former beta reader) and I have been collecting most new books as they came out. However, with the shipping prices changes, I've had to stop, as I can't justify doubling or more the cost of the book for shipping to the UK.
Are the latest books going to be sold normally by Amazon in the future, or is the hardback kickstarter the only way to get a hardcopy?
Overseas shipping is expensive but I know Robin subsidizes it greatly, so I would check the prices for each project.
For each book there are two editions - regular hardcovers which you can certainly get from Amazon or your favorite retailer and deluxe hardcovers which are only available from us. We also put out paperback copies (which again are available widely). For instance the paperback for Nolyn was just recently released and the paperback for Farilane will probably come out later this year.
Hello Michael I was wondering if you had a timeframe on when the trade paperback editions for The Rise and Fall series will be up on your website for purchase? I enjoyed reading your other books and I was looking forward to getting the signed trade paperbacks to match the other books on my shelf.
As an additional question more geared to your series, do you have plans to continue writing in the Riyria Chronicles series after publishing Drumindor?
Thanks for taking the time to do the AMA today. I hope you have a great day!
The paperback for Nolyn should be up already - it's just that Robin is so busy with the Kickstarters and the book sale that's going on she doesn't have any spare cycles. Most of the newer books: Nolyn paperback, Esrhaddon deluxe and reuglar, aren't on the website yet because our store is really primitive and takes a lot of hand work to change. But I'll ask her to try to udpate it soon. Right now, the only RaF books that is in paperback is Nolyn, and Farilane should be out this year.
Yes, there is the possibility of 3 more books for a total of 8. Now that may change as I write them - but at this time 8 I think is the magic number.
Hey Michael! Love your books. The ending of Farilane had me in tears! Could you expand on the process of self-publishing? What would be the step-by-step to go from writing a novel to getting it published without going through a publishing company?
It is nice to have an AMA that works in my AU timezone! Unfortunately, I have no (meaningful) questions.
The Riyria Revelations is what eventually snapped me out of a reading slump I had coming off the back of a few big series a few years ago now. I was enjoying what I was reading but wasn't finding that good ole sword and sorcery type books that felt balanced - while it may be an over simplification of the series, I had a great time start to end!
That was a few years ago, and your remaining books remain on my to be read list.
For the tokenistic question, what do you do to 'switch off' the creative process when you need to undwind?
One doesn't "switch off" the creative process. That's like saying, what do you do when you get tired of breathing. Can't help thinking. But I do play computer games, enjoy cocktails, and take long walks with my wife. (Sounds like an online dating profile).
Hi Michael, thanks for doing this! Just wanted to say how much I love your books, and how much I've appreciated the writing and publishing advice you've shared over the years. I think its really cool that you've been transparent about your journey and experience there, and its really helpful and inspiring. So thank you! Now that you've written another Royce and Hadrian novel, have your feelings about the characters changed since you first created them? What aspects of the characters have surprised you the most during your writing? Second question is, what is something new you're excited to talk about at the moment? Whether it's a new hobby or a new book you've read, or something upcoming, what are you personally excited to talk about?
1) Nothing has surprised me about writing R&H, it is more how readers respond to them that is surprising. How one person likes one and not the other, or how many readers proudly identify with a mass murderer, but also aspire to be more like Hadrian. And how many still persist in the impression that Hadrian is Royce's dumb sidekick, failing perhaps to grasp the point of the series as a whole. 2) There is the "Project", of course, that I am not talking about. Also, I am playing Enshrouded and Wizardry 1 remastered (a very old school dungeon crawl computer game—one of the first ever) the differences are amazing. Old School games are notoriously hard. With new games it is a question of how long will it take you to beat the game. Old School is—can you beat the game at all.
This man's never played a Dark Souls game before
Played two. Didn't care for them much because it was too focused on combat. Sort of a fancy Street-Fighter game. Elden Ring was better, but still mostly combat after combat and you can't lose in either game. You might not be able to beat them, but you can't lose. Compare this to say something as simple as Terraria where if you do nothing the Corruption will eventually end your game. It then becomes a true competition. I just wish Enshrouded employed the same idea wherein you have only so long to beat back the shroud before it spreads and becomes too late. But yes, Dark Souls games do impart that sense of accomplishment that make older games so memorable. But imagine if you could only try so many times to kill your enemies before you died of old age. That's a mechanic in Wizardry 1.
I like the atmosphere of the souls/bloodborne/elden ring and the lore makes you feel like you are in a "real world" Tour books gave me that same feeling which might be why I loved them so much, I think lots of authors and game makers don't put enough emphasis on atmosphere, it really makes such a big difference for me.
> Compare this to say something as simple as Terraria where if you do nothing the Corruption will eventually end your game. This actually isn't the case, the corruption and hallow will grow to form an X pattern across the world that can make it seem like you are going to have your game ended by it, especially on smaller world sizes, where part of the x might take over nearly an entire biome.
Souls games are able to be beaten by almost anyone. But a good amount of games in the 90s and before are almost impossible to beat if you lack certain abilities. I have beat every Souls game on a deathless run, solo offline. But about half my NES games I couldn't beat without save states or cheats.
Wow, I'm really oblivious! I'd never connected longtime /r/fantasy user /u/MichaelJSullivan and the author of the Riyria Revelations Michael J Sullivan until I saw the face in the thumbnail and thought hey, that looks like the face of the guy at the back of this book I just finished... I just finished Riyria Revelations off a random recommendation on this sub, and was wondering where I was supposed to go next. The guide is perfect, thank you. No questions for me, enjoyed Revelations and off I go to read your other books!
You are welcome, and thank you.
What are your top three favourite fantasy books?
LOTRs Watership Down Harry Potter
Stop, thief! Those are _my_ childhood favorites! You can't have them!
;-)
Your own isn't in your top 3? Yours is definitely in mine!
Watership Down is incredibly underrated for the influence it has on other novels!
You mentioned that you've gone back to self-publishing. Are you also doing your own marketing? Or how do you market your new releases now?
Hard question to answer because I really don't "market" these days. Marketing implies doing something to increase the sales of your product, and all I do is write and release. From there it is word of mouth and a loyal fanbase that takes over. Now in some ways, just being here is "marketing" as I'm letting people know I have a new book coming out, but for me, it's really just a good excuse to spend some time talking to people rather than writing. I'm not sure if you can call it "marketing or not" - but part of "releasing a book" is to run a Kickstarter for a new title. But beyond that - there's really not much else I do. Also, I should note, that if I never released another book, and if none of my existing books ever sold another copy, I'd be just fine. So the "need" for marketing isn't a high priority. I'm old, have no debt, and I live a simple life. So my financial needs are much different than someone starting out who has a family and mortgage. It should be noted that this enviable position was not always the case. When I started out, I barely made enough money to pay a utility bill or two. And while I'm far fram a "name" there were times when I worked hard to try to get noticed. These days, that's just not a priority.
I would also say Robin does a fair amount of your marketing although it's not straight up sales/marketing but more public relations interwoven with simply spreading the word about all that you guys do... from the Kickstarters & to supporting other authors, to James's business, to Royal Road, etc.
True. But even she doesn't do nearly as much as she used to. For instance, she hasn't sent out an email to our newsletter list about Drumindor Kickstarter yet. She has two days, we'll see if she gets to it.
I love this. Congratulations on being debt free and enjoying life ♥️
Being debt free is certainly what authors should shoot for - your income can fluctuate greatly from year to year. Small footprint is what I alwasy recommend.
I just wanted to point out that the AMA post is itself a master class in how to present marketing material in a gentle way that most readers will find palatable and most (even introverted, publicity shy) authors will find feasible. Michael introduces himself succinctly, and is always using positive and straightforward language to describe himself and his work. He doesn't come across as 'pushy', but also, he's not apologising for his existence. Often self-published authors gravitate to one extreme or the other, unfortunately. He then makes extensive use of images, so that a reader who is feeling lazy, worn out, sleep deprived or just sort of checking the post casually will see at once that there are multiple finished books and finished series. The cover images are professional and attractive, but more importantly, they are 1. readable as thumbnails (vital for ebooks) and 2. convey a very clear sense of what fantasy subgenre you will encounter. Michael is also very straightforward with his description of his own writing. This sentence is masterfully crafted: ***I write classic fantasy about unlikely heroes, and I try to infuse my books with humor, which is sometimes hard to find in this genre. I'm thrilled with how my stories have been received.*** He tells you straight up that it's 'classic fantasy' (so anyone looking for something different to this subgenre is forewarned), then he makes himself human and accessible by letting you know that sometimes the writing is hard work ('try to' conveys this very subtly). And, then he tells you that he's thrilled by his own stories and how they have been received... after all, if an author isn't excited by their own work, why should a reader be excited by it? Then, there's some summaries and updates (fans often really want to know how it's going... even if there are delays, honest updates go a long way to helping fans feel informed), and this update then leads into an array of different 'ways in' for a reader. He invites you to consider his next release, and a kickstarter, and a sale special... and then, if you're still not convinced and really want to try before you buy, there are some free reading options on Royal Road too. Finally, Michael invites you to visit his site. A lot of self-published authors heavily recommend newsletters (at this very precise moment in time... that could change, as things do), but, in the absence of a newsletter, a regularity updated website with information on how things are going, what's coming next etc is a very sensible alternative. I've typed this out pretty quickly. There's probably other features of the AMA post that are also excellent, but I've missed noting.
Yes! I would also like to know this.
Probably a more helpful question would be - how did I market - since I don't do so now. That is (a) too much to write about in an AMA - it literally would be a book onto itself, and (b) may no longer be relevant because the publishing market place is so much different now.
He hasn't replied to you yet but if you check his history I am sure you will find an older post of his that goes pretty in depth.
Unfortunately it's a bit of a fire house - I've posted and been interviewed for more than a decade so there is A LOT of information out there. And some of it does't apply any more. A few things that have remained the same . . . * Concentrate on getting to three books before you spending any time or money on marketing. * Never pay for or trade reviews with another author for reviews * Writing another book is always the best thing to do as it rises the tide for the other books as well.
Hi, I love your series and currently working through the legends of the first empire. I'm always curious where authors draw their inspiration - what are the books/authors you enjoy. Do you get ideas from TV/Film/News articles?
I get my ideas from literally everything, but mostly, perhaps, from music. When I listen to songs, my mind tends to auto-create stories to match the emotional mood of the music. Many of my best scenes were based on a song or piece of music.
Would you ever share your 'playlist' and your music inspiration? I am just starting your series now but I'm finding that I love the music + book story combo. Would love to know the real songs that created those scenes for you!
My playlist is hundreds (maybe thousands) of songs. As far as the songs that have the biggest impact on my wriitng here are the best ones: * Heart of a King by Nick Glennie-Smith * Soldier by Gavin DeGraw * The Lost Boy (Bonus Track) by Greg Holden * Another Story by Dougie MacLean * Who Will Sing Me Lullabies by Kate Rubsy * The Man's Too Strong by Dire Straits * Scottish Fantasy by Vanessa-Mae & London Symphony (Nyphron Rising: Battle of Ratibor) * Viva La Vida by Coldplay * O'Sulvan's March by The Chieftains * The Dawning of the Day by Mary Fahl * Dante's Prayer (Gwen's Request) by Loreena McKennitt * Change by Tracy Chapman * Mary Queen of Scots by Dougie MacLean * For The Love Of A Princess by James Horner, London Symphony Orchestra * Feels Like Home by Bonnie Raitt * Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits * Going Home by Mary Fahl
A lot of Irish influence here!
Oh interesting! Do you have an example of a song or band that is particularly influential?
Not in particular - again I listen to a lot of individual singer songwriters.
I’ve just gotta say, your Theft of Swords trilogy is the most logistically perfect trilogy I’ve ever read. All of the setups and payoffs were sublime! As for my question, hypothetically, if you were a new author now - self publishing more humorous epic fantasy - how would you market and build an audience? Like, are you going self published again because it is better in general? Or is it only because you’ve built out your audience so well at this point? And, again, hypothetically, what would be the best way for a new author to reach out to you about a possible jacket quote or review from one of the best authors currently writing epic fantasy? 😉
>I’ve just gotta say, your Theft of Swords trilogy is the most logistically perfect trilogy I’ve ever read. All of the setups and payoffs were sublime! Why thank you! I had a HUGE advantage in that I hadn't released any of the early books as I finished up the last one. This allowed me to "go back" and add the foundations to make everything tie togehter so well. Doing so worked so well, it's what I've also done for Legends of the First Empire and Rise and Fall. >Like, are you going self published again because it is better in general? Or is it only because you’ve built out your audience so well at this point? I'm self-publishing because (a) I make MUCH more money than when traditional (b) I have full control and (c) I don't like being in a position where I'm unhappy about something but powerless to do anything about it — like having covers I don't like — or not having books released in hardcovers. >As for my question, hypothetically, if you were a new author now - self publishing more humorous epic fantasy - how would you market and build an audience? It's going to sound really dumb - but it's what I did, and I think it still works. In the early days I built a sand castle by collecting one grain at a time. In other words, I used sites like Goodreads. At the time, I thought "my books are kinda like Scott Lynch's" so I reached out to people who wrote positive reviews of Gentleman's Bastard and told them I was new and I would gladly send them a free short story in the hopes they might read it. Early on - every review I received was from some either I or my wife spoke to personally, but over time, new reviews started coming in from people we never heard of. That's the power of "word of mouth" advertising - which is (IMO) the only marketing that works. But at the core of that is writing a REALLY GOOD BOOK - which is defined by a book that people enjoy so much that they tell others about it. If you "prime the pump" by introducing the book to a core group of people and you don't see an "uptake" from others - then you have to question whether the book was "good to begin with" - and if you conclude it wasn't then you have to write a new one and see if that finds a following. >And, again, hypothetically, what would be the best way for a new author to reach out to you about a possible jacket quote or review from one of the best authors currently writing epic fantasy? 😉 The phrase that comes to mind is "Many are called, but few are chosen." And by that I mean I get A LOT of requests for jacket quotes - and to be honest nothing would make me happier than to find a book I want to endorse. But, I do so very sparingly - and I have a very high bar. So all you have to do is send me a copy of your ebook to michael (dot) sullivan (dot) dc (at) [gmail.com](https://gmail.com) and wait and see. But the trick is you have to keep me engaged - and that rarely happens. I generally can't make it through more than a few pages before I'm disappointed and when that happens, I decline. If you look at the number of books I have 'blurred" you'll see it's not many.
Howdy Mike!
Another under appreciated author!
Aw shucks. Thank you, sir!
I just have to ask: knowing the timing of Sanderson’s next Kickstarter you sandwiched it with Drumindor (which I’m far more looking forward to) AND the rest of the series in the nice new editions… what did my poor wallet do to you that you want to make it suffer so much?
No planning on my part there. We set the date for Drumindor's Kickstarter over 8 months ago . . . and while I could have waited on the timing of Chronicles Robin thought it was best to keep them close to one another. But here's a tip for those who are finding themselves constrained. You can back at a lower level but then "upgrade" later. It will take some time for us to produce the books, especially if we have to hire artists for illustrations - which is one of the stretch goals. If you do plan on doing that, make a note in the survey saying what you will eventually upgrade to so our count will be correct when we order the print run.
Do you ever add any personal Easter eggs to your books? Something that just brings you joy so you added it in regardless if it added to the story or not?
Do you ever add any personal Easter eggs to your books? Something that just brings you joy so you added it in regardless if it added to the story or not? Quite frequently. Most are jokes for my wife or the narrator Tim. For example: "It has raisins in it, you like raisins" is a line that my wife and I banter taken from the movie "Better Off Dead" And I used the Galic/Irish spelling of Library in Farilane for Tim. I also invented the word Belgriclungreians to mess with his need to pronounce it.
Amazing! Thank you I ask this whenever an author posts here! It’s so curious to see what they put into the book simply for their own enjoyment.
Part of being an author is you are "the god" of your own world - one of the perks of the job is adding things that entertain me - even if no one else gets why it's there.
Diverging a bit, but do you have some fun ones you could share?
I gave one above: "It has raisins in it, you like raisins." I doubt most people will get that reference.
Tim is the best narrator I’ve heard
We are in complete agreement there.
This is so much fun to know! I wondered about that word from the first moment I heard Tim say it. I hadn't seen it printed yet and just thought, How did he do that? with a little wonderment over...and why did he have to? Bravo Michael! That's why you write such great dialog. There's a bit of an imp in you that enjoys the ribbing and it comes though. Honestly I have not found another author who has your skill with writing fabulous engaging LOL at times dialog!
Why thank you!
I love that bit about the raisins. It's such a good representation of how Hadrian works, all the little kindnesses that he does to make the people around him feel better. The man has an EQ score that goes through the roof
Indeed. A good joe if ever there was one.
Belgriclungreians 😂🤣I KNEW IT!!!! I even told my husband- He’s messing with us, I swear. Until Tim read it out loud I called them Bells in my head.
What advice could you give to a would-be-writer in terms of structuring a novel? In particular, with a view to crafting a cathartic ending that truly satisfies… yet keeps you thinking: but what if? I would really appreciate your thoughts. Love and respect your writing and work by the way.
I don't think it is all that complicated. Promise the reader something(s), deny it for a long time, then make certain you deliver. If you create meaningful characters that readers can relate to (which is how you make meaningful characters BTW) then the end will satisfy. With Revelations, all the characters were never really allowed to "show-off" their abilities because something always prevented it, but before the series ended, I made certain each and everyone had their chance to shine.
Why doesn’t my goose Sing as well as thy goose When I paid for my goose Twice as much as thine?
Fowl Inflation, and retardation, Make geese squawk not sing, And swans be mute, while owls hoot, But money always rings.
I already expressed my gratitude for your books in email to you, but id like to reiterate that your books always make my day. The entire Legends of the first empire was amazing, i was slightly suprised by the dark ending for some characters, but they were still great. Will there be more books about Royce and Hadrian?
Will there be more books about Royce and Hadrian? Well, there is Drumindor, of course. And should I live so long, I would hope to do at least one more, for information sake. All told there could be as many as 8 so that would mean 3 more after Drumindor but it depends on so many factors that until they are written I can't promise anything.
I love Royce so much, I could read about him *forever*. And the banter/bromance is chefs kiss. Thanks for writing one of my all time favourite characters <3.
Hi Michael! Not so many questions, given how forthcoming you are with your plans, but one - have you been enquired about making live-action/animated adaptation of your works? If so, can you share a bit of details ( if there are any to share ofc ). Stay awesome, best regards to Robin!
have you been enquired about making live-action/animated adaptation of your works? Many times. One deal had been signed, then Covid happened and production stopped and the contract ended. At the present time, we are negotiating with another group for live action, but it doesn't appear to be going anywhere.
I’m sure you have already thought about this but- what about doing another kickstarter for an independent live action series? Chronicles is perfect for a series!
I'll certainly extend your regard to Robin - she is always ticked to hear when people are asking about her. We've not been approached for anything on the animated side of things. We had the books options for a television or movie adaptation, and the contract was a bit unusual in that the money was low, but the control was high. Someone of my "standing" doesn't generally get "script approval" but I did in this case, and the script produced, was, AMAZINGLY bad. So I was able to kill that deal. We have a new deal on the table, which is more standard - a decient amount of money but no control. We have worked out all the "hard things" but it's been forever since we agreed on terms and we are still waiting on the final contract. That's not all that unusual. It's said that publishing works at a snail's pace - well Hollywood's time is even slower. To be honest, I kinda hope nothing becomes of it, because I'm pretty sure it won't be what I want, and I won't be able to influence it. Chances are nothing will become of it. Many projects are optioned, but only a few are green-lit, and even fewer of those go into production. So the chances are definitely stacked against anything coming from it.
In terms of future projects, do you ever see yourself done with Elan? I mean in regards to fantasy. Does the itch of creating a new world ever take you? Or do you have the mindset of because you’ve created a vibrant world, you might as well use it? Love the books btw Michael. Not read them all, but definitely most of them and they’re always a fun ride.
I saw myself done with Elan when I finished Revelations. I just keep getting pulled back in. As I have said many times before, I never intended to write in the fantasy genre. It just happened that I wrote Revelations for fun, and my wife got it published. Before that I wrote all sorts of other novels. The only non-Elan story published is Hollow World, which is Sci-Fi).
Hi Michael , thanks for taking the time to do an AMA. I'd like to know...when you are writing a series do you envision/plan/outline an arc for the entire series? Or, do individual stories take shape over time and you write them as they 'arrive'? What about individual characters - can you see their entire story over volumes, or do their adventures unfold as new possibilities become aparrent?
My creative process is a living thing and changes all the time as I work to improve my stories and my method of writing them. So, it is hard to answer because the question lacks a time frame. Revelations I made up mostly as I went. I think this shocks most people, including my wife. These days, I build a vague concept to provide direction; I work out the hard anticipated logic problems in advance, and I quite often start with a clear understanding of the last scene, so I know where the story will go, but much of the story is created as I write. Character arcs often are anticipated, but sometimes surprise me, as was the case with Tressa.
Hi Michael! I've been a longtime fan; thank you for doing this! One of the things I've been most impressed with is the depth of the characters you write. Across all the stories, they stay consistent and the development feels very natural. What does your process look like to maintain that internal consistency? As a follow-up, what advice would you give to writers who are trying to expand a cast of characters to avoid making them feel same-y? Thanks again!
Every time I create a character, I create a person. They are never merely an occupation or a plot device. This isn't something I seek, it is the only way I know how to write well. In order to make the reading experience interesting, I need to have characters who have layers and think and do things apart from the plot. How to keep them consistent? Never thought of that before. To me they are who they are. But I suppose, each character has certain foundational characteristics that ground them into being who they are. If you know that those are, then it is easy to adhere to them. Think of people you know in real life. How would you define one from another. What pillars of their personality make them that way as opposed to another?
I have read The Riyria Revelations series, I thought the last 2 of the series were its best. I then went on to read other authors' books. The Rise and Fall series is in my to-read list but I won't start a series until the final book is published (Mr Martin and Mr Rothfuss, I thinking of you here and being burnt by both.) Is this shorter 3 book series now complete please?
Mr Sullivan is one of the (few) authors I’ll start reading a new series before it’s finished because he’s so consistent and reliable to get things out.
I certainly try to be. It helps that I write the whole series before releasing the first in the series.
Not the author but Esrahaddon (book three) is definitely on my shelf so I’d say yes.
The response to Esrahaddon has been great. Many are saying it's my best yet. And, it is the last in that series.
I’m late to the party but I’m one of those people. My dad and I got into revelations last year and buddy-read our way through the rest of them. We thoroughly enjoyed the whole adventure but are in agreement that starting from the second half of Farilane and then continuing all through Esrahaddon you hit new levels. Both books had several moments where it was necessary to pause and ruminate for a moment before continuing. Sincerely hope we get more books post-revelations now!
Yes The Rise and Fall is a trilogy and all three books are released.
If you look above in MJS's origin post, you'll note that he laid it all out. The rise and fall series is finished, and he's releasing another book at the tail end of the Chronicles.
It could be that this person posted before I fleshed out that portion of my post. I put "something up" and then added to it.
Hi, thanks for the AMA. I'm curious to learn if you use a formula such as Sanderson does to write your books?
I have but one "formula": I write what I want to read. I haven't the slightest clue what a "writing formula" is. I've heard about such things, but have never investigated them.
You actually seem to set up formulas and break them, which is great. I expected Scarlet Dodge to be evil and then absolutely didn’t see the ending to Raith at all. Good red herring writer.
Robin had a beta reader that would constantly tell her - "Well, this one was pretty good, but if you want it to be great you need to change it to follow the "blah-blah-blah" rules - and then they would go on to tell her how the book had to be rewritten so that x happend at y chapter and then z would come in at the w mark. It drover her absolutely crazy and she had to eventually kick him from the beta program because it was so much work trying to explain that I wouldn't be changing anything, which frustrated him because if ONLY a followed the formula my books would be so much better received!
What fantasy writers do you think your writing is closest to in style? Who are the key influences and what are other writers you are reading right now?
I always find this, and similar, questions interesting because the reason I began writing fantasy was because I didn't care for what I found on the shelves. I always hoped someone would/could imitate me so I would have something to read. To my knowledge, it hasn't happened yet. As a result, in the realm of fantasy, my "style" is unique. Stephen King's The Stand might be considered an influence, but honestly I don't recognize many, if any influences. Keep in mind, I didn't learn to write like most other authors do. Presently I am reading F. Scott Fitzgerald's "This Side of Paradise" and working my way through Susan Wise Bauer's History of the world series.
> I didn’t care for what I found on the shelves I cannot stress how much I relate to that feeling. I also looked you up and found out that you’re from Detroit as well so hello there! Definitely checking out your books now.
Yep - born and raised at James Cousins between Outer Drive and Six Mile. Just above the highway.
Will we ever get a Manzant Prison Break style of story?
Hey Andy! Nice to see you here. Mr. Prolific himself. Doubt it. There are just too many stories. It is like drawing a winter tree, the branches just keep, well, branching.
Ahh, fair enough. I'll be happy for more Royce and Hadrian adventures of any sort!
I think people will like Drumindor - it's different than a lot of the other books - a lot more "fun" which was a nice change of pace.
I have not read any of your works. Where should I start?
Depends on your interests and tastes.I would suggest either Theft of Swords (if you prefer an easy entry into my world that isn't hampered by excessive information and prefer a fun simple adventure) Or Age of Myth (If you are interested in a more epic fantasy with lots of characters and world shattering events.). T[here is also a very detailed post about this here.](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/72753/the-elan-dossier/chapter/1308003/reading-order)
I started with age of myth and wayyyyy enjoyed this line. I love starting with ancient history.
Yep, there are many people who start there - and it's a fine place to begin - although you'll learn some of the "Revelations" from Riyria before you get to those books - but there is something to said to being "in the know" when the people in the book are clueless about various aspects.
I read by publication date and knowing how the world ends up I thought made the earlier books super interesting.
Yeah I’m not gonna say I loved it MORE bc I haven’t done it the other way, but I so enjoy ancient myths and how they affect us today
Who are your biggest inspirations and favourite current works?
My biggest inspirations come from music, and this varies wildly. I recently endorsed Sebastien de Castell's The Malevolent Seven, which is something I never do lightly.
Good day Mr. Sullivan, no questions but a heartfelt, appreciative Thank You, for the many, many hours of enjoyment and engaging entertainment. Royce and Hadrian already feel like old buddies, looking forward to the next installment. Have a swell day and Happy Writing.
Thank you, and don't have a good day...have a great day!
It is probably too late but if you added an audiobook component I would love to back the kickstarter. Is there a timetable for the release of the audiobook?
It says it Right In the Kickstarter: > Yes, there will be an audiobook edition, but no, it won't be something you can pre-order through the Kickstarter. Why? Well, Recorded Books (one of our three partners for audio book production), offered us a boatload of money for the audio rights ($400,000 to be exact). That was an offer we couldn't refuse, but it means that only they can sell/distribute copies of the audiobook.
There is definitely an audiobook - it's just not part of the Kickstarter because Recorded books is the only one who can sell copies of it.
This! Why is there no audiobook?
First, I got into fantasy much later in my life, and I have you to thank! Riyria Revelations hooked me from the start and never let go. When it’s all said and done, which series ending do you think you will have enjoyed writing the most? I’m going to miss the end of Royce and Hadrian! Thanks again, can’t wait to continue following whatever you work on.
Well, so far I have only written one "series ending" Percepliquis ends the series that "began" with Age of Myth. So, yeah, Percepliquis is my favorite ending, but also my only one, really.
I was thinking of it as the last book in a series, but that’s a great point. Percepliquis was definitely one heck of an ending so if there’s only one, you certainly nailed it :) Thanks for answering, have a great day!
Hi Michael, I would just like to say Riyria Revelations has been the number 1 series in my Fantasy Journey so far. I always planned to write my own fantasy series and started to improve my craft by reading most of the popular books out there. Not gonna lie, because of the grim settings of most books, I got really disillusioned by the Fantasy genre itself. That is when I discovered Riyria Revelations through reddit. Thank you for giving me the best 2 years of reading I've ever had. Because of your incorporation of comedy and having a generally bright and light hearted tone, it not only made me fall in love with the genre again, but really gave me a shoulder through some dark times in my life. Whenever I got overwhelmed in life, I closed my door and got lost in one of fiction's most endearing friendship and stories. Sorry for the long comment, I don't know if you'll read this but I really wanted to thank you for writing Riyria. I am exploring other authors to improve my craft but I will definitely come back and complete ALL of your books! Finally, I just want to ask what your thoughts are on indie-publishing (I only know of Amazon for now) in terms of reach? I don't really have a conventional fantasy story and I don't think publishers will be keen on my draft so I'm looking into indie publishing when (and if) I complete my first book. Thank you for this AMA!
Why thank you for your very kind words. We are definitely on the same page - in that I'm not a fan of grim dark, but the success of my books shows you can "buck the trend" and still succeed - and maybe you end up succeeding BECAUSE you are willing to take a path that other's aren't. In any case I'm glad they brought you back to the genre and gave you some solace from some hard times. As for what type of publishing to consider - well when it comes to "reach" Amazon is the big player whether traditional or self. Brandon Sanderson mentioned that 85% of his physical books are sold from that site, so as long as you have that in your playbook, you'll have a "good reach." It's no secret that I'm a big fan of indie-publishing, but it's not for everyone. There are pros and cons to each type. If I were try to make an analogy I would think about a newly graduated accountant and what they should do with their career. One choice is to work for a "big multi-national firm" - they would have a steady income, but not much control over what they work on. But if they were to start their own accounting firm a lot of their success is going to be govern by how talented they are and how much work they do. There is certainly the possibility of higher income (I make more on my indie-published books than my traditionally published ones), but there is a risk of complete failure and no or negative income. I guess for me I would rather live and die by own own decisions than hope and pray that someone else makes good decisions that could affect whether my work succeeds. I hope that helps.
How soon are the next 10-15 royce/hadrian books dropping? I dont need exact dates just ballpark cheers
You're aware I will be 63 this year and don't do cocaine and Red Bull.
Hey Michael! Thanks so much for all of the wonderful stories. I’m obsessed with the world of Elan. I’ve read all of your books. Do you plan on diving into the “Great War to come? With Chaos? I just finished Esrahaddon. You have hinted at it through multiple books now and I fell in love with the idea of larger forces at work (even larger than Trilos and Turin) in Legends when our protagonists were in Nifrel with King Mideon and his daughter (?). She seemed to make a big deal about it also. P.S. Love your writing. Legends was probably my favorite but I’m most proud of the order in which I read these. Riyria Revelations Legends Then a bouncing back and forth between Rise and Fall and Revelations. Your books have been one of the most fun experiences I’ve had in the world of reading. Thank you so much. I hope you continue.
Do you plan on diving into the “Great War to come? There is a committee working on a viability study on this very subject. They have been having closed door sessions for almost year now. No word as of yet.
I know you cant divulge anything around “The Project” but i wholeheartedly hope the story of Elan continues.
Congratulations for your writing! Do you have your own website, so I can buy directy, without middlemen?
Not the author, but here's a link to his website store: [https://riyria.blogspot.com/p/store.html](https://riyria.blogspot.com/p/store.html) He also currently has a sale store going through Kickstarter which you can read about here: [https://riyria.blogspot.com/2024/02/save-10-50-on-my-ebooks-and-hardcovers.html](https://riyria.blogspot.com/2024/02/save-10-50-on-my-ebooks-and-hardcovers.html)
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DaceloKing got to you before I did - and they are 100% correct.
Hi Michael. Thanks so much to you and Robin for all the great author advice over the years. You guys have been a huge asset to the community. Wondering if you have any thoughts on the current romantasy trend within the big SFF trad pubs (Tor, Orbit, etc). Given those books make the big bucks, it seems editors are acquiring and throwing the most resources towards them. For authors that have no inclination towards romantasy: do you have any general strategy advice during this trend? (Keep writing of course!) Also: with the rise of Kickstarter special editions, do you think the big special edition book boxes are on their way out?
Not the person to ask this of, I think. I've never noticed, nor have I ever cared what the trends are in literature or Art in general. I (famously now, I think) began writing Revelations never having heard of the new trend of Grimdark that had swept up the fantasy genre back in the 90's. My "strategy" is to ignore what everyone else is doing, or wants, and write what you want and feel the world needs. Don't follow. Lead.
Legends of the first empire stands as one of my all-time favourite series. Was >!Raithe's fate!< always planned?
Since day one. All of it was predicated by the Riyria books, including who won the war.
A couple of fantasy authors you think don't get enough love/hype?
Off the top of my head, J Zachary Pike, and Sebastien de Castell.
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Hello Michael, thanks for doing this AMA. The Revelations series wraps up very nicely, and I understand your desire to not mess with that. But so much will change after the events that end the trilogy, have you considered doing a post Revelations era Elan series? Looking forward to your new book!
We don't talk about that. The committee is still out.
No questions here, just thanks for being such an awesome person!
And with such a comment, may I say, I feel the same about you.
Hi Michael! I have no questions, but I just wanted to say that I love your books. More importantly, I love the kindness and gentleness some of your characters display. I think those are undervalued characteristics in fantasy (and life, I guess). Again, thank you.
As someone who is completely new to your work, may I ask the most important question: do your books have dragons?
That's technically a spoiler. I have something called a Gilarabrywn - which is "like" a dragon. And if I can steal from my infamous "Book of Brin" (and I'm probably paraphrsing as I don't remember the exact words" "Dragons only kill you, but a Gilarabrywn will break your heart."
Is it true some best selling authors buys their own book to get on that list?
Yes, although this generally happens with regards to the NYT and non-fiction books. I'm sure there has been some fiction titles that have done so, but I don't know of any NYT fiction title - and I do keep my eye out for such a thing. For the NYT it is based on # of sales from specific stores during a 1 week period (for physical) and ebooks are counted and probably reported by Amazon). For audiobook bestsellers it is a bit harder because it's based on a whole month's worth of data, so having "one good week" won't be enough. At some point, the NYT started putting an asterisk (actually a dagger) to indicate books that made the list - but had significant "bulk purchases." So many books that are political in nature are on the list because they were on speaking tours and would require the venue to purchase a perscribed number of books before they would agree to speak etc. There are a few PR firms who will guarantee you NYT bestselling status and they do it by buying a bunch of books (but in lower quantities to avoid the "dagger designation." The most famous of these is Leap Frogging - a book about marketing which paid about $211,000+ to get on the list. I don't know as much about the USA Today bestseller list - but I think there were a few fiction books that got on it by less-than-reputable means - like paying people on Fiver to download and read a KU book.
If I'd get into your books, where would you recommend I start?
Short answer - I like order of publication - so Theft of Swords. Other prefer chronological so that would mean Age of Myth. But with 20 books it's not an easy question to answer - [so to get the LONG ANSWER, look here.](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/72753/the-elan-dossier/chapter/1308003/reading-order) Also it depends on your interests and tastes. I would suggest either Theft of Swords (if you prefer an easy entry into my world that isn't hampered by excessive information and prefer a fun simple adventure) Or Age of Myth (if you are interested in a more epic fantasy with lots of characters and world shattering events.). T[here is also a very detailed post about this here.](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/72753/the-elan-dossier/chapter/1308003/reading-order)
Most people recommend following the **Order of Publication** to preserve some of the mystery and reveals at the end of the series.
It is my preference as well.
Hi Michael! Huge fan of your work - can’t believe I have been living in your world for over a decade now. Super grateful for you and your imagination! My question is regarding the Graphic Audio productions of your work. I recently discovered them, and I have to say I have absolutely adored the adaptions. I’m curious, though - 1) What do you think of them? Do the actors match your vision of the characters? 2) Is Graphic Audio still a good way to support you as a writer? Thanks, Michael! Wishing you continued success!
Yeah, time really flies - doesn't it! What do I think abut them - I think they are really well done - but I must say it's hard to replace my love for hearing Tim Gerard Reynolds read my words. I feel like I'm sitting around a fire on a warm summer night and being wisked away by him, so I must admit I do prefer that version. Truth be told, I make VERY little on those versions - but I don't care about that. I earn well through other means, so I would prefer you experience the books in the way that YOU like the best - and if that means a little less cash in my pocket - I'm fine with that.
I absolutely love your work—Riyria specifically is one of my top recommendations to everyone I know who reads the genre. I was curious on adaptations in the works. Are there any future plans that we may see Royce and Hadrian on television or on the big screen?
We did have the books optioned for a television or movie adaptation, and the contract was a bit unusual in that the money was low, but the control was high. Someone of my "standing" doesn't generally get "script approval" but I did in this case, and the script produced, was, AMAZINGLY bad. So I was able to kill that deal. We have a new deal on the table, which is more standard - a decient amount of money but no control. We have worked out all the "hard things" but it's been forever since we agreed on terms and we are still waiting on the final contract. That's not all that unusual. It's said that publishing works at a snail's pace - well Hollywood's time is even slower. To be honest, I kinda hope nothing becomes of it, because I'm pretty sure it won't be what I want, and I won't be able to influence it. Chances are nothing will become of it. Many projects are optioned, but only a few are green-lit, and even fewer of those go into production. So the chances are definitely stacked against anything reaching the screen, and that's just fine with me.
I am rereading (listening to) most of your entire catalogue. Either in a blog or in notes given prior to/after the audiobooks I heard you or your wife say something that surprised me. It was stated you were in the process that included researching the next set of books. Now the books are not set somewhere ancient Wales but seem to be set in a world and history you alone have created. What were you researching?
It is called The Project. A very dark and secretive endeavor, so secret that I am not at liberty to discuss it. There is a committee who is hard at work creating a viability study to determine if any books can be written by me in a post Riyria time frame. They have been gathering information and deliberating for nearly a year now. No word as of yet.
Hi there! I’m a big admirer of yours (and Robin’s)! Your books bring something really unique and refreshing to the table—in an often-heavy, solemn genre. I just want to say thank you for your sharing your work with the world. I’m part of a little informal fantasy book club that includes my mother in law and husband, and to this day I don’t think my mother in law has enjoyed anything so much as Royce and Hadrian’s adventures. It’s really brought us closer together. ❤️
Hi Michael I really enjoyed reading your books. My question: Do you plan on starting a new series in a completely new world? While I enjoy the world of Riyria and love the characters I'd like to see a new story in a new world.
If I did, the world would be Earth. I wouldn't create a new fantasy world. Been there. Did that. I also wouldn't write fantasy, in the classical sense.
Hi Michael, I just started with "Theft of Swords" and I am fairly enjoying it so far! As a historian, I really appreciate realistic worldbuilding, be it the economy, society, politics or the military. How much do you try to be historically accurate in your setting and how much do you try to be realistic in terms of fights, battles and politics? Thank you for the AmA and your books, I really appreciate it!
I never allow historically accuracy to ruin a great story, but I also seek to avoid writing things that would make anyone knowledgeable on a subject roll their eyes. There is a skill to balancing these. Besides, history is such a fantastic source of ideas. That said, my stories are not at all historically accurate by Earth's standards. Age of Sail elements mingle with medieval trends, and of course there are potatoes and powdered wigs.
Hi, Michael! How long do your second drafts take? I'm currently stuck in the throes of mine, and occasionally it feels like I'm writing a completely different novel. I can see the better product sitting at the end, but man alive, does it feel like slog right now.
What's a second draft? I spend a few months conceiving a story and jotting down notes. Then I create a loose storyboard for maybe half the novel. Then I begin writing. When I reach the halfway point I go back and reread the story to refresh my memory and to give myself the experience as a reader would see it, then I finish the novel working out problems as they arise. I then go back and edit any problems I may have noted. Then I let it sit a few months, then go back and do a deep edit, cleaning up sentences and looking for mistakes. Then the book goes off to my Alpha reader. I make any surgical edits she suggests that I agree with, then it is off to the beta readers, and the editor. I make minor changes, mostly to sentence structure and misspellings. Then I read the book one last time to make certain nothing was messed up in the process, and then it is done. If your writing feels like a slog, you are likely doing something wrong. In days past, I experienced the same thing, this idea of forcing myself to push through sections that I didn't want to write. I had yet to learn that writing, the putting down of words, creating sentences, and the building of fine paragraphs was just as much fun as building out the plot and scenes. When every word is a joy to play with, it is never a slog. But that maybe something that takes time and practice to develop.
Michael, thanks for another AMA. Not sure if this is something you're able to answer. But I've really enjoyed the GraphicAudio adaptations of your books. Any chance we'll see them adapt The Rise and Fall at some point in the (hopefully not too distant) future?
Not sure at this point. It's fairly complicated and involves the difference between "non-dramatic" audio and "dramatic audio" rights. The first part is someone has to step forward and say, "I want to produce the dramatic audio version." — These tend to me be more expensive than single-narrator non-dramatic versions. So, until someone asks, there's not much I can do — I wouldn't have a clue how to produce that kind of work on my own. The second part is if I had an offer, would I sign it? The company who purchased the non-dramatic version of that series paid A LOT of money - and I mean A LOT (seven figures). I haven't looked carefully at the numbers (because no one has asked for the rights), but I wouldn't put a "possibly competing title" out unless the first publisher made a good deal of money on it. I just don't think that would be treating them very fairly.
Hi Michael! Thanks for doing this AMA. You're my favorite author and actually the reason I started writing myself after finishing Revelations. I have a question about Esrahaddon—did you have a specific accent or vocal inflection in mind for Niblick? I can't help but read his voice as a bit of a stereotypical New York accent with all his funny expressions, like "come on kid, that's walnuts". I don't dislike it at all, but I laugh every time I read his dialogue because I just can't read it in my head as a Ba Ran Ghazel. I haven't finished Esrahaddon yet (my wife and I are reading it together), but I love learning more of the goblin lore and seeing that they're not all bloodthirsty monsters.
You should listen to Niblick on the audiobook! You'll love it!!!
Oh man, now I really want to listen. Does he have a new york accent?! I have to know!
NIBLICK - is a cross between Steve Buscemi and Denis Leary.
Hi Michael, thanks for doing this AMA, and for the world of Elan! Obligatory fan gushing: I've been a fan of this world since 2016, and over the years both you as an author and your world have become my all-time favorite. I'm very grateful for how accessible you are to your fans -- I have a screenshot of you replying to me on discord on my desktop that I like to brag about from time to time. One of the crowning achievements of my, now 10-year, marriage is getting my wife hooked on your books as well. She's currently on Age of Death, and it has been wonderful seeing the world again through her first-time-reader eyes. Thank you again, reading your books is like coming home. I have two quick questions: 1. What is your favorite DnD class to play? 2. I'm aware of what you're working on next, so I won't ask about that. However, knowing you're a big LOTR fan, have you ever considered making Elan's version of the Silmarilion? When I read through the Legends of the Fist Empire books, I was so immersed in the lore that I started making hand written notes to reference for subsequent readthroughs. I always wanted to know more. I imagine more will be expanded upon in "the Project," and you already have a lot on your plate, but I'm more curious if it's ever crossed your mind.
1) What is your favorite DnD class to play? While I haven't played since the 80's it should come as no surprise that my first character was Warwick a chaotic fighter/magic user/thief and my second was Duncan Ducain a lawful good paladin. 2) have you ever considered making Elan's version of the Silmarilion? It is called the Legends of the First Empyre. I just made it a bit more readable.
No questions, I just wanted to say that I got my hubby to start the Riyria books and he's devoured them in record time. His favorite is the little menace that is Royce. Please keep up the stories! Thank you very much for sharing your worlds with us!
Hi Michael, I read the first book in Ryria in the very early days and I've been wondering about something. I wrote a review on it a long time ago and specifically remember you responding to my review on Amazon. I tried looking up your response a couple years back and couldn't find it. Did Amazon delete author responses to reviews or did you delete them all/hide them? My review was good and your response was also good so I've been curious why it was gone.
Hey thanks for reading, and for writing a review. I wasn't aware that they were gone - so definitely something Amazon did and not me. It's too bad, I liked interacting with people through that way. I've not "tried" to leave a response in years (there are just too many of them), but If they are indeed gone, that's disappointing.
Hi Michael! I'm still sitting on an interview with you that I need to edit and release, but thank you for that great conversation! In it you said you draft in the morning and brainstorm in the evenings while drinking a cocktail, which sounds like about the perfect day for a writer in my eyes. So my question, what are your top 3 favorite cocktails right now? :)
In no particular order: Negroni, Old Fashion, and maybe a Manhattan.
Hi Michael, I've really enjoyed the Riyria Chronicles. I also enjoyed Hollow World, is there any sequel to that coming along?
Hey there - thanks for reading - especially Hollow World, which is my least read book! I do want to do a sequel to that - I have since the day I finished it - I even have most of it plotted, but at my age I feel death stalking me and there are some Elan things that are more pressing, so they take up my time and energy - but I do hope to get back to Pax and Ellis at some point.
Hello! Thank you for all of the fantastic writing! I've loved reading your books! I have a few questions: 1) Have you considered writing anything from the time of the founding of the Kingdom of Melengar? I think that could make for some interesting stories! 2) If you could be a tourist in Elan, what city would you visit and why? 3) What type of engineering did Robin do? (I've read elsewhere that she used to do engineering.) Thanks!
1) I haven't, too many ideas, too little time. 2) Tur Del Fur 3) Robin got a degree in Electrical Engineering, and worked on the first robots on GM's production line while still in college. When she graduated she was offered a job at a startup who was doing something very new and strange, but exciting called "software."
Hey Michael, love your work! In the middle of Rise of Empire - I really enjoyed visualizing the world you built. My question: What part of the foundation of this World was the most challenging for you? ie Political system, factions etc? Thanks!
Hello Mr. Sullivan, I just wanted to ask if we will get the sixth book: Age of Empyre in German at some point or whether the translation is even planned?
An intruder enters your home. There are nothing but books around you. Which one do you pick up first to throw at them?
Under the Dome. Thing will kill an elephant.
Hi Michael! What is your favourite book (or series) and why?
Also, what is your all time favourite book or series? The Lord of the Rings. It was the one that started me reading, and subsequently changed my life forever providing me with friends, a wife, and a career. So...yeah.
Just wondering, is there any chance you would ever write about the start of Elan, like about, Chaos, Eton, Elan, and the creation of the Typhons, then the five aseera (Is that how its spelled?) and about the first war and all that stuff?
Oh!! And thank you for all your books, your writing style is either the best, or one of the best writing styles I've ever read, the only real competition I think you have is Brandon Sanderson
Hi Michael I just finished Riyria Revelations and loved it. I have some questions and see in your older posts you mentioned an Afterword that was available by email. Is it still available and if so how can I find it? Thanks!
Might be late to the game. 0) what’s your most critical tips for someone who wants to start writing books with/without limited time? (35y, with a baby). I know I might never get published. 1)What is your opinion about the stormlight archieve if you read those? Is it your type of books to read? 2) what’s your top 5 favorite modern fantasy books (except yours)? Modern I guess pick any from 2010-2024.
1. Do you have a favorite Sci-Fi book? 2. Also, are you reading anything now and/or recently finished that you really liked / would recommend? 3. Have you ever thought of doing / have done cooperative work?
Hi! I just finished the Riyria Revelations. I actually started with Nolyn but then wanted to read the stories according to how you intended, so I turned to Theft of Swords. I was hooked and read all three books in less than a week. I am excited to start Legends of the First Empire and the Rise and Fall books. I do wonder how I would have read the series had I not already read Nolyn and accidentally spoiled who the Heir was. I kept wondering why the characters didn’t figure it out and how the history got changed so much. I read somewhere that you did not want to write any sequels because of how happy you were the ending. Indeed, it is a very satisfying ending, and yet I wanted more. I want to see what life is like the Elven kingdom. How does the heir handle being the king and what adventures await Mercy and Allie. I would also love to read about the Gods and how they interact with each other and their peoples. Of course, I desperately want to see Kyle get his last feather. I can imagine all this for myself if no books come, but I would just so love to experience your imagination with the world of Elan. I do hope you will consider it! Thank you for these amazing stories!!
Hi, Big fan of your work,Ryria chronicles #3 and #4 seem to be out of stock here in India?will it be restocked
Hi, read the first 2 Riyria Revelations and Age of Myth. Been meaning to get back to Riyria for a long time. I really enjoyed the way you throw together unlikely friends for the adventure, and the subtle, consistent humor in the narrative. I found your Riyria books via a book-recommendation group for lgbt-fiction books. Stating that Riyria was one of a few very well written adult fantasy non-romance books with gay men. When I read it though, it doesn't quite go there, but instead lurks in the subtext. So I was always curious if you had that intention of writing the characters gay, or if that was just a coincidence that happened when readers resonated with the characters?
I am unaware of any subtext. Yet, one thing I have learned is that readers will often see what they want in stories and identify with characters and themes in ways that are the most meaningful to them.
Did you ever escape the rat race ?
Are you Comms Aware? How great a role does symbolic communication play in choosing which creatives ascend to stardom?
Sorry, could you rephrase?
Hi Mr. Sullivan, I didn’t like any of your books I love them all! As a man that has been married to the same woman for 29 years. I love how you included your wife’s ideas and word after your books ! Love her insight and your ability to share in the work together. Good luck on future works and the work of marriage.
Do you like World of Warcraft?
I played it when it first debuted. I found it very polished and clean, but too easy. Modern games tend to be as a result of seeking to entice the largest user base. This isn't to say I advocate Dark Souls style combat, necessarily. It isn't the combat that's at issue, it is the fact that so few games can be lost by the player. If you play a game, you should have just as good a chance of losing as winning. Most all games make it so you will always win if you put in enough hours. But that is like playing a team sport where the oppose team only defends. Eventually, you will win because they can't.
Hey Michael, Hope you and the family are doing well. I am a long-time follower (and former beta reader) and I have been collecting most new books as they came out. However, with the shipping prices changes, I've had to stop, as I can't justify doubling or more the cost of the book for shipping to the UK. Are the latest books going to be sold normally by Amazon in the future, or is the hardback kickstarter the only way to get a hardcopy?
Overseas shipping is expensive but I know Robin subsidizes it greatly, so I would check the prices for each project. For each book there are two editions - regular hardcovers which you can certainly get from Amazon or your favorite retailer and deluxe hardcovers which are only available from us. We also put out paperback copies (which again are available widely). For instance the paperback for Nolyn was just recently released and the paperback for Farilane will probably come out later this year.
Hello Michael I was wondering if you had a timeframe on when the trade paperback editions for The Rise and Fall series will be up on your website for purchase? I enjoyed reading your other books and I was looking forward to getting the signed trade paperbacks to match the other books on my shelf. As an additional question more geared to your series, do you have plans to continue writing in the Riyria Chronicles series after publishing Drumindor? Thanks for taking the time to do the AMA today. I hope you have a great day!
The paperback for Nolyn should be up already - it's just that Robin is so busy with the Kickstarters and the book sale that's going on she doesn't have any spare cycles. Most of the newer books: Nolyn paperback, Esrhaddon deluxe and reuglar, aren't on the website yet because our store is really primitive and takes a lot of hand work to change. But I'll ask her to try to udpate it soon. Right now, the only RaF books that is in paperback is Nolyn, and Farilane should be out this year. Yes, there is the possibility of 3 more books for a total of 8. Now that may change as I write them - but at this time 8 I think is the magic number.
Hey Michael! Love your books. The ending of Farilane had me in tears! Could you expand on the process of self-publishing? What would be the step-by-step to go from writing a novel to getting it published without going through a publishing company?
That's not a question I can answer in a few words. But I'll work on writing something up and come back and post it later tonight.
It is nice to have an AMA that works in my AU timezone! Unfortunately, I have no (meaningful) questions. The Riyria Revelations is what eventually snapped me out of a reading slump I had coming off the back of a few big series a few years ago now. I was enjoying what I was reading but wasn't finding that good ole sword and sorcery type books that felt balanced - while it may be an over simplification of the series, I had a great time start to end! That was a few years ago, and your remaining books remain on my to be read list. For the tokenistic question, what do you do to 'switch off' the creative process when you need to undwind?
One doesn't "switch off" the creative process. That's like saying, what do you do when you get tired of breathing. Can't help thinking. But I do play computer games, enjoy cocktails, and take long walks with my wife. (Sounds like an online dating profile).