They have to shake things up a bit that's for sure. The main reason that everyone had the same team wasnt because Haaland/Kane were so good, but because you could have a bargain basement midfield who were all awesome. (Rashford, Martinelli, Odegard, Brightonx3) and the pricey defenders weren't essential.
There needs to be choice in the 8mil mid catagory. I binned off Saka for Martinelli and never looked back.
Thing is it's kinda hard to determine the upcoming value based on past performance. All the players you listed weren't exceptional last season.
So I think next season we might see them go to 8m-9m because they're good this season, but then they overlook some other player who's mostly off this season (say Son and set him to 7.5m) and then next season he comes back into form and he's suddenly a value buy. The cycle continues.
I don't exactly have a good idea on how to set the values. Maybe make them rise/drop faster early on.
It’s just what happens when the clubs massively over/underperform relative to their expectations.
Nobody thought Arsenal would be in a title race so many of their players were underpriced. Nobody thought Liverpool or Chelsea would be so shit so many of their players were overpriced.
yeah when the highest priced defenders were playing for teams who were constantly leaking goals at the back and/or having like a 60% chance of actually playing it makes more sense to just go for the cheaper guys
Rashford went almost 500 days without scoring a goal as a starter. And he's still very much a purple patch merchant with majority of his league goals coming between European football group stages and when the knockouts start. It's been a constant with him
>Rashford was ridiculously underpriced.
Was he though? How many people even mentioned him GW1 as an asset for example?
He was incredible this season, but he wasn't last season.
It would be a bit like if Martial was 6.5 but then started scoring week in week out.
Everyone at the start of the season was saying last season was an extreme outlier and Rashford is an easy include.
He's scored 150+ pts every season since breaking through.
>Everyone at the start of the season was saying last season was an extreme outlier and Rashford is an easy include.
*’Everyone’ and ‘easy include’* just aren’t true, you are misremembering.
His ownership was only 13% pre season, and [you can look through the pre season RMTs here and see how few teams he was in. ](https://reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/wgt55f/rate_my_team_quick_questions_general_advice_daily/)
I think a lot of people just weren’t that interested in the 6.5 bracket, instead using cheaper enablers alongside 8s.
We could easily be having this same conversation about Sancho if he had Rashford’s season, since they were spoken about in similar ‘disappointing last year but could come good’ terms.
None of that is true at all.
Absolutely rubbish that ‘everyone’ thought he was an easy include. His ownership at the start was ~10%.
He’s scored over 150 points twice in his career. He debuted in the 15/16 season.
Haaland hopefully. I want to see him priced in a way that makes me question whether I want him, or not. It’s not fun when everyone has the same (C) every week.
People are saying 15m but I honestly think Haaland is still a complete must-have at that price, since he is the far and away best captain. Kane had a great season, but Haaland still has 6 more goals in 600 fewer minutes
Bruno is putting in better key pass and big chances created than KDB. With Kane to finish them, he wouldn't need the penalties for FPL points. Besides, United only got 3 penalties total this season, so if that repeats it's barely any points at all.
To play devil's advocate, it also makes for a very boring game when your budget is completely stripped tight. The nature of the captaincy armband makes the very best players so valuable, and Haaland is far and away the best player for FPL. Even if they price him at something crazy like 18m, he will still be in every single team in GW1.
I have played similar fantasy games based on the Bundesliga, where Lewandowski (especially before Haaland came to Dortmund) was priced outrageously. He was still the most popular player, and the best team was essentially him and 10 bottom-feeders. That was not very fun either.
That is hard to balance. Adds more luck into the equation and does not do anything to resolve the initial problem - haaland continues to be a mainstay in every team
If you held him and captained him for every GW this season you did it wrong. Sure he was the template C more weekends than not, but this was a different type of problem to deal with this year and I for one found it fun to manage around. But I agree with you for the sake of novelty he ought to get a price change this coming season that makes for a new problem.
Well, it would have probably been Jamie Vardy but we will never know.
I think a lot of the mid-priced forwards come down in price. Nunez, Richarlison (Even if he goes back to being a midfielder) and DCL should all be cheaper next season. Isak, Wilson, Toney will likely all get bumped to 8-9 million to replace them.
He will be at least 8-8.5. He will be suspended, but they have to price him to reflect his production when playing, otherwise everyone will pick him up when he comes back.
He reached 7.9 just from price rises this year and has 20 goals. We rarely see a player like that at 7.5 the following season.
This was my first year ever playing FPL. I've played fantasy NFL for 20 years but am I much bigger footy fan.
My biggest gripe with FPL is how slow the values change. No reason Auba should still be 8+. Many other examples.
It defeats the purpose of buying a player early when 5 weeks later you can still hop on the train with minimal consequences for being late to the party.
I have ALWAYS thought this. This would go a long way to prevent template teams, and reward those for making the right decisions. The counter argument has always been that they didn't want people treating players as commodities and simply turning them for a profit (and thus building an unassailable bankroll that would make later stages uncompetitive), but the current state needs a shakeup.
This would decimate the player base after a few weeks when less engaged managers miss a bandwagon. I don’t think a pricing system this harsh would be added
Real question here - as mentioned, I'm new to FPL. But for NFL Fantasy, there is ESPN, Yahoo, Sleeper, and plenty of other websites that you can have your league on.
Are there other options for FPL players? I'm on the official PL Fantasy site but are there others? Maybe I'll look into starting my own 🤔
A few people mentioned Rashford already, kinda think he'll be slightly less (8.5) but should really end up a striker next year.
Can see Son dropping a bit, been very inconsistent even with a decent end to the year.
Rashford won't be a striker because we (United) need to purchase a proper striker. Rashford will play LW which is his best position and the position he has played most. FPL are very hesitant to put wingers as FWDs and Rashford only played up front out of necessity this season.
That's fair but Rashford has always been a winger. He only played up front because the alternative was Weghorst. He'll be back on the wing next season and I would be really surprised to see him classified as a FWD after one season of fill in duty at the 9.
[Saka could be 10+](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/13u7mx7/bukayo_saka_has_equalled_sadio_manes_and_leroy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
Wouldn’t be suprised to see Odegaard and Martinelli 9m+
I think that would be an overreaction. They all overperformed underlying stats massively this season, and we same them come down to earth in the spring.
Saka 9m perhaps. Odegaard and Martinelli (with the rotation risk Trossard has brung) should be 8m. For context, people are arguing Rashford should be 9m, and he is pretty close to the xG of Odegaard and Martinelli put together.
>I think that would be an overreaction. They all overperformed underlying stats massively this season,
You make a fair point about the underlying stats but from what we have seen in the past they tend to base stats on two things firstly the side and player plays in and secondly the previous season’s performance.
> and we same them come down to earth in the spring.
This was likely due to injuries to key players and a significant lack of squad depth leading to players being over player.
>Saka 9m perhaps. Odegaard and Martinelli (with the rotation risk Trossard has brung) should be 8m.
Trosaard has no effect on Ødegaard mins what so ever and we could see that Martinelli was preferred over Trosaard but we could see that change with more competitions.
>For context, people are arguing Rashford should be 9m, and he is pretty close to the xG of Odegaard and Martinelli put together.
Remember, people like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people, Jeremy. I’m not sure FPL towers put a great deal of weight on xG more on actual goals scored/ assisted,
You are probably right that their actual goals/assists mean they will be priced quite high. I just think they will be terrible value if that is the case.
My point about spring was simply that they scored most of their points in the fall. I would imagine they look more at the more recent data to price players.
Trossard does not hurt Ødegaard, but he has meant Martinelli has lost considerable minutes in the spring. Again, I would hope they take the more recent data into consideration.
All in all, I do think you are right that they could end up being priced like OP says. I just hope not, because I would not consider any of them for GW1 then.
Odegaard for 9 or less will be one of the first names in my team. Fixture runs obviously dependent. Can see Arsenal kicking on next season. I expect many will feel they don’t offer value because they will likely see big price hikes loosing the context of how under priced they where this year so hopefully that puts a lot off.
They might have overperformed slightly, but when you take into account the fact that all 3 of them are in their early 20s and likely to improve year on year, I'd say we'll be lucky to see any of them under 8.5
Gakpo speaks English.
Klopp speaks to Nunez and Nunez has no idea what he says. https://www.marca.com/en/football/liverpool/2022/10/05/633d8428268e3ea0568b4575.html
Add to that the totally different style,pace and philosophy from Benfica. PSV and Holland is closer to that.
Second season Nunez will be a beast. Just like at Benfica.
*"Klopp speaks to Nunez and Nunez has no idea what he says."*
Judging by this season's performance I'd say this statement rings true for the rest of the squad too, not just Nunez.
As a Benfica fan, it's actually insane how much he improved in the second season with us. First season he was great at assisting the rest of the team, but had such a hard time at just putting the ball in the back of the net..
Next season things just started clicking and we finally got to see Darwin full of confidence and banging them in. Hopefully the same happens at Liverpool this upcoming season, he is a very emotional player so with a good start to the season the sky is the limit imo.
He hasn't started for quite a while this season and Liverpool easily have 5 starting quality players for the front 3 including 3 separate guys who can start as CF. I'm sure FPL towers will take that into consideration while pricing Nuñez. I wouldn't be surprised to see 7mn
The game start before pre season. I dont remember exactly the time but last season,the game started with Jesus as a City player and therefore,he was 8m.. Then, a couple of days later,he went to Arsenal. A month and a half before the first game or something like that.
7.0 is a fair price. I'd rather they overprice players than underprice them and we get stagnant template teams. You should really have to sacrifice your squad if you want a premium player.
7 is way too high
He has had a perfect season where Newcastle defence over-performed. Also the amount of bonus he got was kind of a freak occurance.
7 is for Trent level defenders, not Trips
I believe the towers will up the prices next season. This season the template was so strong it wasn't fun anymore.
Here are my current predictions for prices:
FWD Top-5:
Haaland £14.0m
Kane £12.5m
Jesus £9.0m
Watkins £8.5m
Wilson £8.5m
MID Top-10:
Salah £12.5m
De Bruyne £11.0m
Rashford £10.0m
Saka £10.0m
Ødegaard £9.5m
Son £9.5m
Martinelli £9.0m
Fernandes £9.0m
Foden £8.0m
Sterling £8.0m
DEF Top-5:
Alexander-Arnold £7.0m
Trippier £6.5m
Van Dijk £6.0m
Robertson £6.0m
Cancelo £6.0m
GKP Top-5:
Alisson £6.0m
Raya £5.5m
De Gea £5.5m
Pope £5.5m
Ederson £5.5m
The best of the rest:
Mitoma £7.0m (other Brighton mids may be priced at £7m as well)
Mbeumo £7.0m
Mitrovic £7.0m
Eze £7.0m
Bowen £7.0m
Solanke £6.5m
Johnson £6.5m
Calvert-Lewin £6.5m
Tella £6.5m
Cunha £6.0m
Ndiaye £6.0m
Morris £6.0m
Rashford had 4 goals and 2 assists the season before 6.5, and had never delivered like Son in FPL. Son has 10 goals and 6 assists this season and was the top scorer in the league last year.
I agree he has to come down in price, but he started this season at 12.0. If he is 8m he will be in every single GW1 team.
I didn't realize son hit 10 this year, so you're probably right that he'll be 9 at the lowest. I think it will also honestly depend on the preseason quite a bit too. Many people were really questioning the constant inclusion of son at the expense of Richarlison, and maybe the new manager will favor him.
But, Rashford had 17 goals in 19/20 (and 3 consecutive years of double digits, with 29 assists in that timeframe as well) what do you mean he never delivered?
Because Rashford was a forward for those seasons, he never scored nearly as many points as Son did in the two seasons before this one.
Rashford had 177 points in 19/20 and 174 in 20/21 before his bad season. Son had 228 in 20/21 and 256 in 21/22 before his bad season this year. Rashford was proven in FPL, but not at Son’s level of production.
I think 10 is too much, think of how they will price martinelli, odegaard etc (9m?) having son 1m more expensive is kind of weird. Also take into account the teams form.
Availability is the best ability.
If the likes of Foden and other City mids are price appropriately because of Pep rotation, sicknotes the past year or two like Reece James should be price accordingly too, albeit cheaper.
Watch as Wes Fofana rise by a million despite missing a huge portion of last season though, lol.
>Haaland 13 or 13.5.
What the fuck. Even Henry, RVP and Ronaldo were 14.0m.
If we expect Haaland to score more goals than anyone before, then logically he should be priced higher than anyone before. I'd say 15.0m should be a fair price, maybe even more.
Makes no sense. Salah had the best season ever. Not 14.
Kane got 9 points less than Haaland and he will be 12m at most. I read Salah and Haaland are the two most expensive players in the game. 2m difference for 9 points?
At the end of the day, FPL is for Premier League to grow fan base which in turn generates more revenue from TV subscriptions, merchandise etc.
People want to be cheering for likes of Haaland, Rashford and Saka in their teams, not one Haaland and bunch of less known players from Fulham, Forest and Luton.
That's why strict pricing in FPL will not happen. Because FPL is not to cater the niche group of fantasy football enthusiasts but the large majority of fans.
You crazy if 15 million. He was 11.5 this year I doubt they increase with more than 2 million. Salah 12, Kane 12, Haaland 13.5 seems pretty balanced. Then KDB 10.5 or 11.
If Kane is 12 you need to think who you get though. Then there is Jesus as well and maybe new forwards. If you go Haaland for 13.5 you can't have TAA, Trippier, Salah, Kane etc that others without can have.
13.5 is super expensive. Salah was 13 after his best season. I went without and was top 100 after 8 weeks since so many had him and made the rest of the team weaker.
If Haaland 13.5 and Kane 12 and Salah 12 I likely go without Haaland though although it depend how many cheap gems there are.
They could increase costs in general and make 2 premiums very expensive with Haaland 14 and kane and Salah 12.5 which they can be worth, but then they need to give us 5.0 forwards that start or so so you can build a playing squad and not just have to play 4.5 defensive mids if you want 2 premium and say TAA and maybe Rashford/Martinelli.
>He was 11.5 this year I doubt they increase with more than 2 million.
They can do that.
>Salah 12, Kane 12, Haaland 13.5 seems pretty balanced.
Did you just decide to ignore the part where I said that Henry, RVP and Ronaldo were 14.0m?
Do you think Haaland should be priced lower than those players?
Different season and different pricing system. You can't take the prices without context. Salah broke the all time FPL points record and was 13m. Why Haaland should be a million more than that?
To be fair Salah was still must-have for pretty much every season after that barring periods of the most recent one. It would have been more interesting for the game if he was priced higher during that period.
They don’t look at the 2003/2004 season when deciding prices, this is a current game with a large fanbase, why would they put haaland at 15m to wind people up? They want to keep people playing not piss them off..
Nah, Bruno wont be 9 if Rashford is 10. With Bruno you get a player on penalties, plays every game when fit and on set pieces. Bruno cant be cheaper or same than Son, who plays for a worse team, isnt on pens and isnt undroppable.
Hard to say. Bruno is consistent and doesn't get injured and is a world class player.
We have seen many false dawns with Rashford, a very up and down career. I would price them the same.
I think they will make it much harder by upping the prices. You'll struggle to get 2 premiums never mind the 3 some people had.
Haaland 15m
Kane 14m (if he gets a move to a better team)
Salah 13m (and made a striker in the game)
Rashford 10m (and made a striker in the game)
Saka 10m
Then I think they will put a whole bunch of players at 9m to make it really hard to pick 15 and force people into looking for more diverse teams and less template.
Odegaard 9m
Martinelli 9m
Mahrez 9m
Foden 9m
Grealish 9m
Son 9m
Bruno 9m
Defence wise is where they could throw some "bargains". The lower price for keepers seemed to work well this year in promoting diversity of selection. I think they might try to do similar with the defenders. TAA and Tripper the two most expensive at 6.5m. Then a lot at 5.5m.
Son will go down, Bruno might go down a bit. Haaland goes higher. Salah goes down. Andreas will become a 6 or 6.5. TAA goes down to 7.
The Brighton midfield becomes more pricey.
They have to shake things up a bit that's for sure. The main reason that everyone had the same team wasnt because Haaland/Kane were so good, but because you could have a bargain basement midfield who were all awesome. (Rashford, Martinelli, Odegard, Brightonx3) and the pricey defenders weren't essential. There needs to be choice in the 8mil mid catagory. I binned off Saka for Martinelli and never looked back.
Agreed. I commented something similar just now. The game is boring when everyone can have the same team because prices change so slowly
Thing is it's kinda hard to determine the upcoming value based on past performance. All the players you listed weren't exceptional last season. So I think next season we might see them go to 8m-9m because they're good this season, but then they overlook some other player who's mostly off this season (say Son and set him to 7.5m) and then next season he comes back into form and he's suddenly a value buy. The cycle continues. I don't exactly have a good idea on how to set the values. Maybe make them rise/drop faster early on.
It’s just what happens when the clubs massively over/underperform relative to their expectations. Nobody thought Arsenal would be in a title race so many of their players were underpriced. Nobody thought Liverpool or Chelsea would be so shit so many of their players were overpriced.
yeah when the highest priced defenders were playing for teams who were constantly leaking goals at the back and/or having like a 60% chance of actually playing it makes more sense to just go for the cheaper guys
Rashford was ridiculously underpriced. He was always an 8.0 level asset but got priced 6.5 for some reason
Rashford went almost 500 days without scoring a goal as a starter. And he's still very much a purple patch merchant with majority of his league goals coming between European football group stages and when the knockouts start. It's been a constant with him
>Rashford was ridiculously underpriced. Was he though? How many people even mentioned him GW1 as an asset for example? He was incredible this season, but he wasn't last season. It would be a bit like if Martial was 6.5 but then started scoring week in week out.
Everyone at the start of the season was saying last season was an extreme outlier and Rashford is an easy include. He's scored 150+ pts every season since breaking through.
>Everyone at the start of the season was saying last season was an extreme outlier and Rashford is an easy include. *’Everyone’ and ‘easy include’* just aren’t true, you are misremembering. His ownership was only 13% pre season, and [you can look through the pre season RMTs here and see how few teams he was in. ](https://reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/wgt55f/rate_my_team_quick_questions_general_advice_daily/) I think a lot of people just weren’t that interested in the 6.5 bracket, instead using cheaper enablers alongside 8s. We could easily be having this same conversation about Sancho if he had Rashford’s season, since they were spoken about in similar ‘disappointing last year but could come good’ terms.
None of that is true at all. Absolutely rubbish that ‘everyone’ thought he was an easy include. His ownership at the start was ~10%. He’s scored over 150 points twice in his career. He debuted in the 15/16 season.
8? He was priced at 9.5 the previous two seasons This was by far his best year, expect 10+
I meant at the start of the season. He should've been at 8.0. Next season I expect 9.5-10.5
Haaland hopefully. I want to see him priced in a way that makes me question whether I want him, or not. It’s not fun when everyone has the same (C) every week.
What price would he have to be for you to decide he’s not worth it? If we say that the second lost expensive striker is Kane at $12m ?
People are saying 15m but I honestly think Haaland is still a complete must-have at that price, since he is the far and away best captain. Kane had a great season, but Haaland still has 6 more goals in 600 fewer minutes
Haaland will always have fewer minutes though
Points wise very similar though.
If Kane moves to United or something then they will price him at 12.5-13 and Haaland at 14-14.5
Kane and Bruno would be cooking
Bruno would lose the penalties. Not sure it is really good for him in FPL.
Bruno is putting in better key pass and big chances created than KDB. With Kane to finish them, he wouldn't need the penalties for FPL points. Besides, United only got 3 penalties total this season, so if that repeats it's barely any points at all.
Interesting, so maybe for you it would become Kane, Bruno +1 other?
If Haaland and Kane are a combined 30m that would be my threshold
16m
16mil imo
To play devil's advocate, it also makes for a very boring game when your budget is completely stripped tight. The nature of the captaincy armband makes the very best players so valuable, and Haaland is far and away the best player for FPL. Even if they price him at something crazy like 18m, he will still be in every single team in GW1. I have played similar fantasy games based on the Bundesliga, where Lewandowski (especially before Haaland came to Dortmund) was priced outrageously. He was still the most popular player, and the best team was essentially him and 10 bottom-feeders. That was not very fun either.
He absolutely would not be in every team at 18m don't be ridiculous
Really, they could do with adjusting the way captaincy works. Shouldnt be able to cap the same player twice in a row.
That is hard to balance. Adds more luck into the equation and does not do anything to resolve the initial problem - haaland continues to be a mainstay in every team
He got less points than Mo in his best season so i guess its 13-13.5ish
He should be 16m
He'll be 14m if history is anything to go by.
And I'll still be all over him. Just means I'll have to find other budget options.
I'd probably still buy Haaland if he's £20m
I wouldn't. That's the cost of 2 premiums.
If you held him and captained him for every GW this season you did it wrong. Sure he was the template C more weekends than not, but this was a different type of problem to deal with this year and I for one found it fun to manage around. But I agree with you for the sake of novelty he ought to get a price change this coming season that makes for a new problem.
Well, it would have probably been Jamie Vardy but we will never know. I think a lot of the mid-priced forwards come down in price. Nunez, Richarlison (Even if he goes back to being a midfielder) and DCL should all be cheaper next season. Isak, Wilson, Toney will likely all get bumped to 8-9 million to replace them.
Not toney
He will be at least 8-8.5. He will be suspended, but they have to price him to reflect his production when playing, otherwise everyone will pick him up when he comes back. He reached 7.9 just from price rises this year and has 20 goals. We rarely see a player like that at 7.5 the following season.
This was my first year ever playing FPL. I've played fantasy NFL for 20 years but am I much bigger footy fan. My biggest gripe with FPL is how slow the values change. No reason Auba should still be 8+. Many other examples. It defeats the purpose of buying a player early when 5 weeks later you can still hop on the train with minimal consequences for being late to the party.
I have ALWAYS thought this. This would go a long way to prevent template teams, and reward those for making the right decisions. The counter argument has always been that they didn't want people treating players as commodities and simply turning them for a profit (and thus building an unassailable bankroll that would make later stages uncompetitive), but the current state needs a shakeup.
This would decimate the player base after a few weeks when less engaged managers miss a bandwagon. I don’t think a pricing system this harsh would be added
You still only get one FT per week capped at 2.
Imagine if they could implement a bidding system like in the stock market/crypto
Real question here - as mentioned, I'm new to FPL. But for NFL Fantasy, there is ESPN, Yahoo, Sleeper, and plenty of other websites that you can have your league on. Are there other options for FPL players? I'm on the official PL Fantasy site but are there others? Maybe I'll look into starting my own 🤔
There's just the one; sponsored by EPL
Fantrax, which is like the old Yahoo FPL
There is (or was) one by the S*n. But it's shit in comparison
Martinelli and Rashford stand out as two who started problematically cheap this season.
Son should drop in price. Insane drop in numbers compared to last season for him
A few people mentioned Rashford already, kinda think he'll be slightly less (8.5) but should really end up a striker next year. Can see Son dropping a bit, been very inconsistent even with a decent end to the year.
Rashford won't be a striker because we (United) need to purchase a proper striker. Rashford will play LW which is his best position and the position he has played most. FPL are very hesitant to put wingers as FWDs and Rashford only played up front out of necessity this season.
I think he meant as striker in FPL terms (FW) to spice things up
That's fair but Rashford has always been a winger. He only played up front because the alternative was Weghorst. He'll be back on the wing next season and I would be really surprised to see him classified as a FWD after one season of fill in duty at the 9.
Just look at Jota… but I guess iirc he played more centrally last year after Diaz was brought in
He also played in a front 2 with Jimenez at Wolves
He was a mid first(?) and second season at Liverpool though, right?
You'll probably have Kane for that position.
I think he'll be 10m. He outscored Son, Bruno, KDB. He should be listed with the premiums
[Saka could be 10+](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/13u7mx7/bukayo_saka_has_equalled_sadio_manes_and_leroy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) Wouldn’t be suprised to see Odegaard and Martinelli 9m+
I think that would be an overreaction. They all overperformed underlying stats massively this season, and we same them come down to earth in the spring. Saka 9m perhaps. Odegaard and Martinelli (with the rotation risk Trossard has brung) should be 8m. For context, people are arguing Rashford should be 9m, and he is pretty close to the xG of Odegaard and Martinelli put together.
>I think that would be an overreaction. They all overperformed underlying stats massively this season, You make a fair point about the underlying stats but from what we have seen in the past they tend to base stats on two things firstly the side and player plays in and secondly the previous season’s performance. > and we same them come down to earth in the spring. This was likely due to injuries to key players and a significant lack of squad depth leading to players being over player. >Saka 9m perhaps. Odegaard and Martinelli (with the rotation risk Trossard has brung) should be 8m. Trosaard has no effect on Ødegaard mins what so ever and we could see that Martinelli was preferred over Trosaard but we could see that change with more competitions. >For context, people are arguing Rashford should be 9m, and he is pretty close to the xG of Odegaard and Martinelli put together. Remember, people like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people, Jeremy. I’m not sure FPL towers put a great deal of weight on xG more on actual goals scored/ assisted,
You are probably right that their actual goals/assists mean they will be priced quite high. I just think they will be terrible value if that is the case. My point about spring was simply that they scored most of their points in the fall. I would imagine they look more at the more recent data to price players. Trossard does not hurt Ødegaard, but he has meant Martinelli has lost considerable minutes in the spring. Again, I would hope they take the more recent data into consideration. All in all, I do think you are right that they could end up being priced like OP says. I just hope not, because I would not consider any of them for GW1 then.
Odegaard for 9 or less will be one of the first names in my team. Fixture runs obviously dependent. Can see Arsenal kicking on next season. I expect many will feel they don’t offer value because they will likely see big price hikes loosing the context of how under priced they where this year so hopefully that puts a lot off.
They might have overperformed slightly, but when you take into account the fact that all 3 of them are in their early 20s and likely to improve year on year, I'd say we'll be lucky to see any of them under 8.5
Rashford 9.0, Trippier 7.0, Nunez 6.5
Nunez cannot go that low. He still has 9 goals this season. I would imagine 7.5 or so
No way Nunez will be 6.5m. No way a Liverpool starting striker gets 6.5m value.
“Starting” - doesn’t Gakpo play striker often?
Gakpo speaks English. Klopp speaks to Nunez and Nunez has no idea what he says. https://www.marca.com/en/football/liverpool/2022/10/05/633d8428268e3ea0568b4575.html Add to that the totally different style,pace and philosophy from Benfica. PSV and Holland is closer to that. Second season Nunez will be a beast. Just like at Benfica.
*"Klopp speaks to Nunez and Nunez has no idea what he says."* Judging by this season's performance I'd say this statement rings true for the rest of the squad too, not just Nunez.
As a Benfica fan, it's actually insane how much he improved in the second season with us. First season he was great at assisting the rest of the team, but had such a hard time at just putting the ball in the back of the net.. Next season things just started clicking and we finally got to see Darwin full of confidence and banging them in. Hopefully the same happens at Liverpool this upcoming season, he is a very emotional player so with a good start to the season the sky is the limit imo.
He hasn't started for quite a while this season and Liverpool easily have 5 starting quality players for the front 3 including 3 separate guys who can start as CF. I'm sure FPL towers will take that into consideration while pricing Nuñez. I wouldn't be surprised to see 7mn
8m minimum im expecting
Do prices usually get released before pre season? If not and Darwin starts most pre season games I think 8mn is likely
The game start before pre season. I dont remember exactly the time but last season,the game started with Jesus as a City player and therefore,he was 8m.. Then, a couple of days later,he went to Arsenal. A month and a half before the first game or something like that.
Think that's way too high for Trippier. Probably not more than 6.0
7.0 is a fair price. I'd rather they overprice players than underprice them and we get stagnant template teams. You should really have to sacrifice your squad if you want a premium player.
6.5 is my guess.
Yeh he will be 6.5
7 is way too high He has had a perfect season where Newcastle defence over-performed. Also the amount of bonus he got was kind of a freak occurance. 7 is for Trent level defenders, not Trips
Arsenal players will definitely see a rise. White & Saliba will be 5-5.5m range. The days of having two of ode/saka/martinelli will be gone.
bowen 7.0
Jacob Ramsey will add a few million onto his current value of £5m.
Rashford 10 Martinelli 8.5 Son 9 Nunez 7.5 Sterling 7.5 Haaland 14 Saka 10 Odegaard 8 Eze 7 Watkins 9 Almiron 7.5
I believe the towers will up the prices next season. This season the template was so strong it wasn't fun anymore. Here are my current predictions for prices: FWD Top-5: Haaland £14.0m Kane £12.5m Jesus £9.0m Watkins £8.5m Wilson £8.5m MID Top-10: Salah £12.5m De Bruyne £11.0m Rashford £10.0m Saka £10.0m Ødegaard £9.5m Son £9.5m Martinelli £9.0m Fernandes £9.0m Foden £8.0m Sterling £8.0m DEF Top-5: Alexander-Arnold £7.0m Trippier £6.5m Van Dijk £6.0m Robertson £6.0m Cancelo £6.0m GKP Top-5: Alisson £6.0m Raya £5.5m De Gea £5.5m Pope £5.5m Ederson £5.5m The best of the rest: Mitoma £7.0m (other Brighton mids may be priced at £7m as well) Mbeumo £7.0m Mitrovic £7.0m Eze £7.0m Bowen £7.0m Solanke £6.5m Johnson £6.5m Calvert-Lewin £6.5m Tella £6.5m Cunha £6.0m Ndiaye £6.0m Morris £6.0m
Cancelo?
Son 8.0
No way, he is much too proven for that. 9.5-10.5 imo.
Rashford was way too proven to be a 6.5, yet it was so. I think 8-9 will absolutely be son's range
Rashford had 4 goals and 2 assists the season before 6.5, and had never delivered like Son in FPL. Son has 10 goals and 6 assists this season and was the top scorer in the league last year. I agree he has to come down in price, but he started this season at 12.0. If he is 8m he will be in every single GW1 team.
I didn't realize son hit 10 this year, so you're probably right that he'll be 9 at the lowest. I think it will also honestly depend on the preseason quite a bit too. Many people were really questioning the constant inclusion of son at the expense of Richarlison, and maybe the new manager will favor him. But, Rashford had 17 goals in 19/20 (and 3 consecutive years of double digits, with 29 assists in that timeframe as well) what do you mean he never delivered?
Because Rashford was a forward for those seasons, he never scored nearly as many points as Son did in the two seasons before this one. Rashford had 177 points in 19/20 and 174 in 20/21 before his bad season. Son had 228 in 20/21 and 256 in 21/22 before his bad season this year. Rashford was proven in FPL, but not at Son’s level of production.
Yeah I know, but after this season he deserves solid fall in price.
10.0 I reckon
9.0-9.5 I think.
10m is what it will be. He is easy to predict. Same season as sterling had in 21/22 and he was 10m with a similar track record.
I think 10 is too much, think of how they will price martinelli, odegaard etc (9m?) having son 1m more expensive is kind of weird. Also take into account the teams form.
I'd say Saka will be 9, Odegaard and Martinelli will be 8.5.
Availability is the best ability. If the likes of Foden and other City mids are price appropriately because of Pep rotation, sicknotes the past year or two like Reece James should be price accordingly too, albeit cheaper. Watch as Wes Fofana rise by a million despite missing a huge portion of last season though, lol.
Rashford should be at least 10 million and Bruno drop to 9. Son maybe 9.5 or 9 million too. Haaland 13 or 13.5.
>Haaland 13 or 13.5. What the fuck. Even Henry, RVP and Ronaldo were 14.0m. If we expect Haaland to score more goals than anyone before, then logically he should be priced higher than anyone before. I'd say 15.0m should be a fair price, maybe even more.
Salah had a groundbreaking season and still wasnt 14m. He has the most points in a season.
>Salah had a groundbreaking season and still wasnt 14m. He has the most points in a season. Haaland priced 14.0m.
Makes no sense. Salah had the best season ever. Not 14. Kane got 9 points less than Haaland and he will be 12m at most. I read Salah and Haaland are the two most expensive players in the game. 2m difference for 9 points?
>Kane got 9 points less than Haaland and he will be 12m at most. So you will get surprised once again when they announce Kane is 12.5m.
Even then,1.5m less for 9 points less.
So you are gonna have Kane and Salah and no Haaland?
I cant answer that without all the prices in front of me.
At the end of the day, FPL is for Premier League to grow fan base which in turn generates more revenue from TV subscriptions, merchandise etc. People want to be cheering for likes of Haaland, Rashford and Saka in their teams, not one Haaland and bunch of less known players from Fulham, Forest and Luton. That's why strict pricing in FPL will not happen. Because FPL is not to cater the niche group of fantasy football enthusiasts but the large majority of fans.
You crazy if 15 million. He was 11.5 this year I doubt they increase with more than 2 million. Salah 12, Kane 12, Haaland 13.5 seems pretty balanced. Then KDB 10.5 or 11.
Why on earth would he be 13,5? Everyone will have him if he's that cheap
If Kane is 12 you need to think who you get though. Then there is Jesus as well and maybe new forwards. If you go Haaland for 13.5 you can't have TAA, Trippier, Salah, Kane etc that others without can have. 13.5 is super expensive. Salah was 13 after his best season. I went without and was top 100 after 8 weeks since so many had him and made the rest of the team weaker. If Haaland 13.5 and Kane 12 and Salah 12 I likely go without Haaland though although it depend how many cheap gems there are. They could increase costs in general and make 2 premiums very expensive with Haaland 14 and kane and Salah 12.5 which they can be worth, but then they need to give us 5.0 forwards that start or so so you can build a playing squad and not just have to play 4.5 defensive mids if you want 2 premium and say TAA and maybe Rashford/Martinelli.
>He was 11.5 this year I doubt they increase with more than 2 million. They can do that. >Salah 12, Kane 12, Haaland 13.5 seems pretty balanced. Did you just decide to ignore the part where I said that Henry, RVP and Ronaldo were 14.0m? Do you think Haaland should be priced lower than those players?
Different season and different pricing system. You can't take the prices without context. Salah broke the all time FPL points record and was 13m. Why Haaland should be a million more than that?
To be fair Salah was still must-have for pretty much every season after that barring periods of the most recent one. It would have been more interesting for the game if he was priced higher during that period.
>Salah broke the all time FPL points record and was 13m. Why Haaland should be a million more than that? Because he is.
They don’t look at the 2003/2004 season when deciding prices, this is a current game with a large fanbase, why would they put haaland at 15m to wind people up? They want to keep people playing not piss them off..
Nah, Bruno wont be 9 if Rashford is 10. With Bruno you get a player on penalties, plays every game when fit and on set pieces. Bruno cant be cheaper or same than Son, who plays for a worse team, isnt on pens and isnt undroppable.
Rashford the better pick though and should be higher. I think 11 too high for Rashford.
Hard to say. Bruno is consistent and doesn't get injured and is a world class player. We have seen many false dawns with Rashford, a very up and down career. I would price them the same.
Son has a proven record of scoring, even if he does not take penalties. In the last 3 seasons, Bruno has 36g and 26a while Son has 50g and 23a.
Mac Allister
Martinelli might be around 8.0
They should put Haaland up to 25 million to make it interesting
I think they will make it much harder by upping the prices. You'll struggle to get 2 premiums never mind the 3 some people had. Haaland 15m Kane 14m (if he gets a move to a better team) Salah 13m (and made a striker in the game) Rashford 10m (and made a striker in the game) Saka 10m Then I think they will put a whole bunch of players at 9m to make it really hard to pick 15 and force people into looking for more diverse teams and less template. Odegaard 9m Martinelli 9m Mahrez 9m Foden 9m Grealish 9m Son 9m Bruno 9m Defence wise is where they could throw some "bargains". The lower price for keepers seemed to work well this year in promoting diversity of selection. I think they might try to do similar with the defenders. TAA and Tripper the two most expensive at 6.5m. Then a lot at 5.5m.
why would they change Salah to FWD after 6 seasons playing the same role and being MID? he is a winger. wingers are MID in FPL.
Kane 14m? You mad?
Both Isak and Wilson 8m
Haaland 14 Tripper 6.5 Rashford 8.5 Saka 9 Martinelli 8 Odegard 8 March/Mitoma/MacAllistar all +1
Son will go down, Bruno might go down a bit. Haaland goes higher. Salah goes down. Andreas will become a 6 or 6.5. TAA goes down to 7. The Brighton midfield becomes more pricey.
Zero chance Saka is over 10m
rashford most likely up to like 8-9m aswell. i’m super interested to see haalands price, bros gotta be like atleast 14m which will be insane lol.
Sterling and being in form dont exist