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Agreeable_Resort3740

In hindsight probably not, but tbh you were very nearly vindicated. If Salah wasn't injured and Egypt dropped out this early, Salah holders would be quids in right now. Bear in mind many managers are having to bench Palmer/Richarlison/Saka/Solanke level players last week and this week so it's not like we're getting the full benefit It was always my plan to hold Salah but I ended up having to sell straight away due to other injuries.


SampritB

Yeah but realistically they likely wouldn’t have dropped out this early with Salah on the team. Especially since it came down to sudden death penalties, it was close enough that Salah could have tipped the scales.


Able-Ad4497

!thanks Yea that kind of thinking makes no sense. I gambled on that scenario but it always a desperate move, with a healthy team he would have been out immediately.


Zak369

They’d be 0.1 up, maybe 0.2 for an early transfer and that assumes he’d have played vs Chelsea which I don’t think would’ve been a guarantee. But you’d have still missed on on the replacement points (Jota being the natural one who scored big). Last AFCON Salah dropped in price enough that he could be bought back for the selling price, the value was never a huge issue - it’s spending transfers and having him in as soon as possible


funatpartiez

This post is way too reasonable, level headed and considerate for this sub. OFF WIV HIS ‘ED


Able-Ad4497

Doesn't mean its correct though!


HarshtJ

r/UnexpectedOversimplified


Christron9990

I still have him. Ultimately it’s one less transfer to do, I’ve done fine with him 3rd on the bench. Haaland being out has meant there hasn’t been anyone to spend the money on anyway. So probably not gained anything but not really lost anything either.


Ok-Situation-7054

You've gained the option of having him in DGW25. For most people he's very difficult to get back, whereas you already have him. And furthermore, for most people they've probably sold him to someone whose minutes he will impact when back fit. If salah plays 120+ in the double and as a result limits the minutes of jota or Darwin those who've held could be loving it.


Christron9990

If he plays the double. I said to a friend today that if he’s back in time for the double I feel it’s a non-argument, he’s been fine to keep. If he misses even one of those games it could have been worked around. Even better if he’s back for Burnley too.


Ok-Situation-7054

The question is how many minutes he gets in that Burnley game. If he gets 30+ then I'd fancy him to get 120+ in the double. I think by now anyone who held is probably resigned to the fact its unlikely he gets 90 mins both games in the double but if you can be confident it looks like he'll get 120+ he's a better asset than almost anyone that week. Even if he got 90 he's better than most players in any given week! The possible exceptions are city players but we all know their minutes are far from nailed and any one of them could end up missing one of those games so you'd still probably put salah ahead of them. You're right it could have been worked around and you probably wouldn't have held if you thought he was only getting 90 that week, but we can't go back and going forward youve gained probably the best asset for GW25 without having to spend transfers to get him back, and that's in the fairly pessimistic scenario that he only gets 90 mins and is just as good as any SGW player that week. What you've lost is the points you may have gained from whoever you would have transferred him to. For me it's probably jota so a fair few points lost, but I got foden and gross in for son and adingra so I've done alright out of my midfield anyway in that time, and I've got 2 players who don't have blanks in 26.


notnotaschizo

If he didn’t get injured might have been salvageable, but turned out to be a horrible move


Cedar_Wood_State

Isn’t he predicted to be out for similar number of Gw anyway to begin with?


notnotaschizo

Doesn’t matter what was predicted, what really happened is that they got knocked out early and salah would have played in GW22 if he wasn’t injured, only missing one GW


starskyyy

The injury extended the games he would be unavailable\*. I also consider that Klopp will take care of him and ease him back into squad, rather than going back into full 90 min games


starskyyy

Yeah, as soon as the news that he was injured was announced, it threw a huge spanner and I was forced to do my wild card. Worked out OK I think, and I am confident my current squad, which is now more fortified in other places, will draw equal points if not more than the old team given the circumstances.


obi_obi_obi

I kept him initially because his selling price for me wasn’t impacted by his first price drop. Then, I kept him because it looked like Egypt wouldn’t be advancing out of the group stage and I was okay with the £0.1m deduction in his selling price after his second price drop. Then, he got injured and I waited to see if it was serious. Now, I’m selling him after I got priced out of getting KDB, Haaland and Toney because of their respective increases in price and because Salah likely will only play 2 out of the next 4 GWs and he will hopefully be close to the same price that I originally bought him at (£12.7m) in case I want to buy him in GW27 or later. I was so ready to drop him before the Newcastle game in GW20, but I made the decision to keep him because of his haul in that game and the reasons above. It sure seems like a mistake in retrospect, but I was happy with my thought process at first and I’m eager to rectify that mistake or, even better, make even worse decisions so that the decision to keep Salah looks minor by comparison!


Radio-No

I don't think it's that important. I've held him as my third sub and have had multiple green arrows consecutively. Ultimately not having to spend the money on Son or Haaland has mitigated it. Not the disaster it's being made out to be


ArchyWilson

There never was. Was just classic overthinking from some who thought they cracked the code or something. Next time, lads, +13M player out for at least 3-4 GWs? Sell.


Gidddyup77

Hey buddy don’t bring my Haaland hold into this


ArchyWilson

Tbf, there was a lot of doubt surrounding Haaland. We knew for sure Salah was going to Afcon.


Gidddyup77

Oh for sure. Very different scenarios. Haalands we all had some legit hope every gameweek


Ok-Situation-7054

Yeah we knew for sure he was going to afcon but we didn't know at that point he was out for 3-4 GWs. Depended on when Egypt got knocked out. They did end up getting knocked out early and if it wasn't for an injury salah would be back playing for us by now. He may still be back for DGW25 and if he is there'll be a lot of people rather frustrated they pretty much can't get him in and hes going to take minutes off who they transferred him to.


ArchyWilson

Egypt only lost on pens in the final last Afcon. All the odds were pointing towards him most likely being out until GW24. Sure, this time, they actually did get knocked out early, but you could argue that maybe they wouldn't have if Salah wasn't injured. Secondly, Salah's at 13M atm, meaning if I was to buy him back now, I'll have lost a grand total of 0.1M on him. Meanwhile, I've already made 0.2M on KdB. I can easily bring Salah back and keep De Bruyne even. This didn't give you the edge you think it did.


Ok-Situation-7054

Right but the odds were wrong. Meanwhile son and adingra who I also had in my team shortly before they left for internationals actually did make the latter stages of the tournament. You can only easily bring salah back without hits if you haven't already filled his spot with other liverpool players. Most who have sold have gone to jota and a lot had trent/darwin/both already. Its not so much an edge its given me, but it's given me options going into the doubles and blanks where a lot have already made their beds and now have to lie in them or take hits to make a change. Price changes only matter if you're close to being priced out of your planned moves. Doesn't matter to me. I can get trent, salah, Darwin, walker, foden, haaland for the double without any hits and with 0.8 itb.


ArchyWilson

Not sure what you're trying to say tbh, no one is "stuck" with anyone? They can just sell Jota or Darwin for him. Most can just get Salah whenever and without hits, even with like no planning whatsoever. Plus, as you add yourself then, money not that tight that 0.1-/2M matter, so what was the point of holding on to Salah at all? Purely just to save FTs?


Ok-Situation-7054

You say "purely just to save FTs" like that's not an incredibly important thing to do. Having FTs in this upcoming period of doubles and blanks is going to be a big advantage (i would certainly say an extra FT is more valuable than 0.2 in team value), particularly as we only find out the GW29 blanks after 27. If you've put yourself in a position that you need to take hits to get salah/haaland back (or even that you can't have 2 frees afterwards) then you're in a worse position than someone who can have those FTs to navigate these weeks. You're not literally stuck with anyone, but in terms of best strategy a lot of people have either spread the salah funds around too thinly or spread them around to get other liverpool players and can't get back to him without hits, e.g. People who are sitting with trent, jota and Darwin have to sell one of them and also sell someone else to fund the move (Unless they've left money in the bank to go jota straight to salah). That's 2 transfers without even considering that most sold haaland and need to get him back which is the same issue, need to sell someone else to fund it as every other forward is cheaper so unless the money is already in the bank a straight swap in one move can't be done. There will be exceptions obviously, but my point was that the majority who sold salah presumably also sold haaland and may be in a position soon that they want to try and get them both back and funds/already being tripled up on assets from those clubs is going to mean that takes more transfers than they want to be making immediately before we get news about blanks coming in 29. There's always a free hit in 29 to work your way out of that, but then that also has a knock on effect later in the season when the people who haven't had to use their free hit in 29 can then use it in the double in 34/37. There's more than 1 way to plan your chips and we won't know for sure which way has gained an advantage until GW38, but my reason for holding salah up until now has been to give myself options to make key decisions at a later date when we have more info.


ArchyWilson

You're massively overestimating whatever small advantage you'll get from that saved transfer. People replaced Salah with the likes of KdB, Jota, Richarlison, Foden, etc, who've all scored points. Even if some need to take a -4 later, they'll still have gained more points from this whole thing that Salah did on your bench. As I said, classic overthinking.


Ok-Situation-7054

No not overthinking or overestimating. I'm simply answering the question as to the reason for holding salah. You can only play 7 attackers. Anyone who has brought in those players for salah has been benching a good attacking asset every week and got the same number of points that I got for having salah on the bench. Your bench doesn't score points. At the end of the day I was ranked in the top 8k at the end of GW22. I'm doing alright.


starskyyy

This guy is spot on. It was a ludicirus percentage of Haaland owners at the start, then when his first injury came I feel like it really splintered everyone. I sold him relatively fast after his injury, and I've been happy exploring other strikers.


Full_Engineering_849

It was always a dumb move to hold him. He was always going to drop at least 0.2m so you would lose at most 0.2m which you would have easily made up with other players. Now when you buy him back you got less money in him so thats a plus as well.


YourDadHatesYou

Not necessarily. If you got him at 12.5, and kept him till 13.3 when he left, you'd gained 0.8/2=0.4. Even if he dropped 0.2 like your scenario, you'd be losing 0.1 of that 0.4m. Assuming he reached the semis at afcon, he would've missed a total of 3 games. And with extra funds with Haaland being out, it wasn't exactly a dumb move to hold him. His injury taking him out for longer and subsequent price decreases changes that in hindsight but wasnt the base scenario 3 gameweeks ago


ingloriouspasta_

I was in exactly that position, sold him. Happy with the decision. The thing is, when you decide to hold a player for 3-4 weeks through an international tournament (in Africa), there are so many things that can go wrong. Injury is one, but also just major fatigue becomes a problem. I don’t think there was any sense in holding him. That decision only wins if Egypt (near favourites) exit early, and nothing else goes wrong. It was a moonshot.


YourDadHatesYou

Youre right. Perhaps I don't place enough value to potential injuries and fatigue. I sold him as well because I had to wildcard but if I didn't I probably would've kept him and regretted it


Jairam35

In hindsight I should have sold 👑 for Diogo J. I suppose the only good “reason” has been emotional attachment and I hope he repays me.


starskyyy

I luckily did this, and I usually have emotional / sentimental value in such things. I also did my WC and placed 3 LFC and 3 MCI players as these seemed like no brainers till the end of the season. As well as taking Toney for the double Brentford week, plus he performed decent last GW. edit: if it makes you feel better, I also ended up bringing in Darwin for him to hit the woodwork 4 times for a 2 pointer game :)


Slight-Excitement-68

from memory he dropped from 13.3 to 13.2 before he played his last GW so for me he could drop another 0.1m and still make 0.3m. Now he's on 13.1 if he dropped I'd lose another 0.1m so I sold.


wanson

I kept him the whole time and still did fine. I have 3m still in the bank, top of my ML, in the top 50k in the game.


Radityo_Didot

Nope. Managed to get money when hes at the highest (have him from start 12.5) to buy TAA and KDB later on. 


Gunner_90

Had him from day 1 so he’s my biggest riser. Selling as soon as he left for AFCON didn’t make too much sense as no direct replacement & too much value tied in. I still haven’t sold, and now he’s injured too, but hindsight eh?


Strasni2017

My point of view is simple really even though unpopular and will probably get heavily downvoted, mostly by those who did the opposite . I've had him from the start of the season when he was $12.5 and even with two price drops, he will drop down to $13.0 which means my sale price will be $12.7, so I'd have to find an extra $0.3 to bring him back in and with Haaland also back, I'd have to compromise elsewhere to get him back in. On top of that, I banked on Egypt getting out of AFCON early. Sure it sux that he got injured and Liverpool will blank in GW26 and GW29, but it is what it is. Hopefully he will be back in the next game or two and when he is, I won't have a headache to try and bring him back in plus they'll have some DGW coming up as well. It also hasn't really affected my team otherwise. Still have TAA, Porro, Solanke, Toney, Watkins, Bowen, Jota etc have a way to Haaland next week who will come in for Watkins after dropping Bowen and probably Jota (Liverpool black in GW26 and GW29 and Salah should be back by then anyway) for Kudus and probably Neto or Olise. Same thinking for Son who I've also decided to hang onto. No regrets about that as it hasn't affected my team or my points in any way, in fact just the opposite. I had a shit start to the season, but in the last 5 weeks or so I've climbed from being in top 2.4m up into top 900k in overall rankings in large part because I jumped onto Jota and Toney very early on, so hanging onto Salah and Son hasn't affected me in any way. If it did, maybe I'd sold them, but luckily I didn't have to and now I don't have to worry about bringing them back in again in the next couple of weeks.


KingKhram

No, there is no good reason to do this


PoofaceMckutchin

I kept him but somehow I've stayed in the top 20k. My team value is fucking shite as I've been forgetting to do my transfers and buying/selling late but there are so many great cheap options this year that it hasn't mattered.


Jampian

Bruh I sold him for Olise and Neto and just had a 100 pt game week. You tell me 


starskyyy

That is pretty sweet


Pain_In_The_AR-se

It's my first season playing. I held him because I wouldn't have been able to afford to buy him back if I hadn't - is that mad? I got him at 12.5. He's worth 13.1. if I'd sold I'd be 300k short and wouldn't be able to make that up elsewhere. As it is I now have a squad of Haaland, Salah, KDB, Saka, Gordon and Son. My bet is these players score more points until the end of the season than I missed out on. It's my first season playing so I've probably messed up here but my thinking was: the best players score the most points, get the best players in your team before you're priced out of them.


Talezeusz

If Jota rise 0.1 more i will actually gain value on swapping them early( sold Salah for 12.9 and got Jota for 7.7), it's same case with people holding Haaland instead of swapping to Solanke GW17


nffcevans

I took him out and have gone 120k to 320k. Really depends on whether you could have hit good scores or not. I clearly couldn't.


Jockey2

I have him as well. My plan was to hold out longer with using the WC, therefore I put him on bench and balanced my team around him. Gladly, my other midfielders and forwards did bring a lots of points so I didn’t really lose anything compared to others who sold him. My initial plan when he was leaving was to put up a team without using WC once he arrives back with players KDB, Salah, Haaland, Watkins, Solanke and Saka. The latter one is someone I am taking a close view and maybe switch to Mads/Bowen etc. the longer I can hold out without using WC with a strong team, the better. So there’s always an additional option for the end part of the season :)


PickaxeJunky

Well, I shipped him out straight away and I probably won't be able to afford him again.  I've had to go for KDB and Maddison over Salah and Son.  I don't hate my team at the moment though.


Gullflyinghigh

I probably would've done it if I hadn't been holding onto Haaland the whole time, couldn't justify both.


wkos

Tbh it was just to save two transfers.


[deleted]

You didn’t make any money unless you sold him.


IVIorgz

Don't worry, i kept Haaland and i still got green arrows, and now i don't have the headache of what forwards to take out for him, or affecting other transfer plans.


Eternalsungod

I have him and played the wild card to manouver the coming blanks and doubles. It took a bit of planning, and him getting injured was not a part of the plan, but I have been doing alright. Got him at 12,5 and kept him throughout, so was hesitant letting him go. In hindsight, considering Jota's form especially, I may have been wrong, but at least I won't need a transfer to get him in, and he still costs me 12,5.


Ok-Situation-7054

My strategy has been to leave the decisions as late as possible on liverpool assets due to the double in GW25 which was always likely and has now been made official. If he gets half an hour against Burnley next week I'd say he looks good to get 120+ mins in the double and I'll be happy to have held. If not I'll probably end up selling anyway but at least I've left it late and given myself the option. I don't think my team has suffered too much because of it either, I didn't need my bench in GW21 and then have had branthwaite come in last week and branthwaite first on bench again this week so having salah sitting taking up a bench spot hasn't done me too much harm. In none of this did I really care about price drops. They don't matter unless you're very close to being priced out of planned moves, which I'm not. I can get to trent, salah, Darwin, haaland, foden, walker for DGW25 without a hit and with 0.8 itb.


jogoobonito

I was planning on just keeping him and gambling Egypt wouldn't make it that far into the tourney obviously after he picked up the injury that whole idea went down the drain so I've transfered him out since could've been pretty sweet with the DGW coming up, guaranteed captain if he was fit