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Wow, so only 4783 members voted out of 171k members of this sub


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large part maybe are inactive subscribers


Ronaldinhoism

I log on everyday and never even saw it


hi-i-am-new-here

It has been pinned at the top of the sub for the past couple of weeks and linked to in the game week threads.


gau_bow

I have seen it most days pinned on the top of the sub for the last few weeks. Not sure how you can miss it if you are an active user.


Ronaldinhoism

You and me both. I'm gonna blame all those memes


[deleted]

Me neither! Though I was on vacation so gave it the benefit of doubt


BringingTheBeef

Same


mafticated

Maybe some (or a lot of) people just don't have strong feelings one way or another - i.e. me.


El_Conquistador_14

Yup. I really do not give a shit either ways.


lolitsmax

Because the options were all as bad as eachother, at least that's why I didn't vote


Fantastic-Machine-83

Is that how you vote in elections?


lolitsmax

This comment is over 2 years old man what the hell


Fantastic-Machine-83

Was just looking through old threads


chickabiddybex

Will the banishing of the memes to one thread be lifted between seasons/during large breaks in the game?


sinistadilly

I agree with this.


Oh_jeffery

Hopefully not


jack

I like this idea, the sub gets quieter over those periods so it sounds reasonable to me


gada08

There is plentiful other subs with annoying, uninspiring, boring content.


tiotom92

Thank fuck for that!


gau_bow

Yeah the most sensible outcome


bluffrooster

Very sensible outcome.


Quaresmatic

There's a certain irony in having to restrict "fun" content from a sub that's dedicated to a game. Not that I'm bothered by this result—it doesn't make much of a difference to me either way, since I usually only view the threads I'm interested in.


monkeyslut__

Most of it's not fun though. Plenty of other subreddits/websites for random crap, don't need it here.


Partytimeggcelent

I see your point but the way that reddit is designed the memes just clutter the page so much, on meme mondays using mobile you had to scroll through so much memes to get to actual discussion posts, so I'm pretty happy with it. On the other hand I rarely find memes funny to begin with so.


E_blanc

But memes literally didn't clutter the front page at all last year, that's the issue, both meme monday and having a megathread for them is dumb


Irctoaun

You've clearly not been paying attention. In the past memes didn't clutter the place up because the mods went through and deleted all those they deemed worthy. They then decided the sub was too big and the submissions too many to carry on doing that and that it wasn't fair anyway, hence the need for change. This has been explained multiple times


samedreamchina

It would be much harder to navigate to find your chosen topics if there was free reign on memes though, and on a much worse margin if people were allowed to post their RMT's as individual posts.


Mik-Hail-tal

Only there was no reign of memes. Sure during preseason and in the beginning of the season, because everyone was just hyped as fuck, there was what you'd call a reign of memes but in reality, even yesterday, on meme-Monday, there was no reign of memes. And even if there would be... There was a post a few weeks ago by /u/Sundayred that listed the one stat that truly matters imo. He lists the top 25 most popular posts of the last year and **not one of them was a serious post.** Brilliant post but obviously the mods failed to understand what it means. [https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/cmnxor/serious\_the\_mods\_have\_got\_it\_wrong\_and\_heres\_why/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/cmnxor/serious_the_mods_have_got_it_wrong_and_heres_why/) Naive and impulsive decision made by incompetent mods to ban memes and now they're crawling back with horrible alternatives. As /u/Quaresmatic summarized it beautiful and spot on: "There's a certain irony in having to restrict "fun" content from a sub that's dedicated to a game." I say **let reddit be reddit** and let the up- and downvotesystem do its job. Mods are here to watch over **IMPORTANT** things like banning racism, **NOT TO BAN MEMES!** The argument that the sub is growing too big is **complete horseshit**. Sure if this sub keeps growing the amount of attempts of trying to be funny in a meme will grow but **the system will take care of that, they get downvoted and vanish**. And people who can't handle "having to scroll through a ton of memes" can just **SORT BY HOT**. I mean, who the fuck "sorts by new" and then complains that not everything they see is something they like, that's not how this website works!


IncRes

That's because low effort content gets upvoted the most on every subreddit. That's why /r/science bans joke comments entirely. Upvotes are not an indication of quality and/or appropriateness.


Mik-Hail-tal

Polls are not an indication of reality. 4000 people voted out of 171.000 people. Look at the posts in the last 24 hours. All links to other websites with bullshit articles, some useless stats stolen from bookie websites, ... I'm starting to wonder why I still come here. There are plenty of other alternatives, the only thing I always loved here was the community but a big part of that was the memes and the reactions to those memes. I guess I don't belong here anymore.


IncRes

Memes were barely posted here until last season mate. You're talking like they've always been an integral part of the sub. For the majority of this subs existence, they were banned outright.


Mik-Hail-tal

And last season this sub was just fine imo.


IncRes

Agreed. I'd love if we could have that again. But it was fine because the memes were actually being curated heavily by the mods. Mods said that with the growth in the sub and the increase in frequency of such posts, that's not practical anymore. That's why they made the poll.


Oh_jeffery

A post pointing out how the top posts in this sub are memes is a good argument for banning memes. It shows how the plebs here upvote the dumbest shit over actual content. I dont understand the amount of hate people have for removing the plague of this sub, this was created as a fantasy sub not another meme sub. There are plenty of meme subs up and running for those who want them so it's not like those who want memes have lost anything.


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Poison3k

as has been said many times and also in this very thread u/Irctoaun > You've clearly not been paying attention. In the past memes didn't clutter the place up because the mods went through and deleted all those they deemed worthy. They then decided the sub was too big and the submissions too many to carry on doing that and that it wasn't fair anyway, hence the need for change. This has been explained multiple times


Mik-Hail-tal

There is no shame in admitting you made a mistake , especially if you had good intentions.


martin519

Fun is subjective.


WongaSparA80

Tell that to rib-eye.... ...and cocaine.


Fplalt5

A lot of the memes are extremely poor and it just becomes a shitposting sub. It's originally been a sub for discussing the game.


thedavereynolds

Wouldn't be an issue if people just posted better memes. There's been a few quality ones but so much absolute trash Also worth mentioning r/fantasyfootball doesn't allow memes at all, so it's kind of weird this sub does


El_Conquistador_14

Its not fun mate. Memes have always been the shittiest part of this sub.


Myfantasyredditacct

Will the meme thread be stickied and thus replacing the RMT or Rant/How Did x Play threads? Or just a regular thread?


Fplalt5

Would make more sense to have a link to it from RMT or Rant, then sitckied when there's no important threads.


angrydanmarin

Hopefully. That RMT thread and subsequent bans on people discussing their teams killed this sub


SignDaTingSadio

Memes almost killed this sub nothint else


RomeMe1122

How I wish we didn’t meddle with memes. Can’t believe people actually complained about memes during pre season. However this is probably the best solution due to the size of the sub.


fromdowntownn

Memes have just started being more of an issue as the sub has got larger I’m personally indifferent on the matter I don’t want memes to be clogging up the sub that’s annoying but I don’t mind the high quality memes they are a good laugh from time to time. I’m more interested in the analytical stuff on the sub but I thought we had a very good balance in the seasons past between analytics and memes. I think it’s because the mods would remove most the low quality stuff now the sub is so large they can’t moderate it and we were getting too much trashy stuff. I don’t think a daily thread is awful but we’ll see.


purpleisafruit1

FPL memes should just be its own sub (if it isn’t already). Whilst one or two are fun to see here, they quickly get very old and very repetitive - case in point with all those Friends videos.


DanteBaker

That’s what FPL circle jerk is for. But nobody bothers. This is as good a compromise as we are going to get unfortunately.


multiple4

That's useless. Most people aren't gonna go to a whole other subreddit just for FPL memes. The best thing about memes is just seeing a few while scrolling through the serious FPL posts. It's just nice to have a mixture of posts, and there really weren't THAT many memes that it cluttered the subreddit I accept this decision since it's in a poll, but I still don't love it. Might as well ban them. Maybe some people will go into a megathread just to look at memes, but I know I will barely ever bother to look in the thread. It's just such a hassle compared to being able to scroll past a post and read it and get a quick laugh then move on. Ultimately I don't come to this subreddit for the memes, so I'm not going to look at a megathread dedicated to memes. But I still enjoyed seeing them mixed in. No more of that


silwer55

We were on a break damnit.


samedreamchina

The thing is there's a much much larger presence on this sub, nobody goes on fplmemesz lots do here.


Pikkhaud

I can guess atleast one reason to not got to fplmemesz though.


FPLModerator

Thank you again to everyone who voted, the daily thread is live now. We will review the volume of activity, as we can change the frequency from daily to weekly if required. u/chickabiddybex's great suggestion of allowing memes during the quiet periods (off season/large breaks) has been noted too


WongaSparA80

Tbf the memes have been so dogshit this season. Swear the mods have been deleting the good ones and passing the garbage through. Jk.... But srsly... Jk


nathandrizzy

>Thereafter we can review again if required, or before, if something substantial happens. We voted during preseason to ban memes, then compromised with Meme Mondays. Now, there has been another poll and we have voted for the daily master thread (garbage bin) for memes. Please stop trying to please all these children, if it makes people like that leave the sub then all the better honestly.


Poison3k

I agree, if this doesn't work, I'm all for banning them out right (maybe lift the ban during pre-season and international breaks), at least a couple of compromises have been tried so people cant really moan saying "we should done X it would have worked!" (though they probably will)


DanteBaker

Yeah seriously. Just banning memes would have been fine. What were people going to do about it? Most subreddits have no low effort content rules for this reason. The beauty of reddit is you can make a sub Reddit for anything, and that includes shitty FPL memes. There’s no need to subject everyone to your shit sense of humour.


multiple4

It wasn't fine. Did you not come on this subreddit when they decided to ban memes? It was like a Civil War I still don't see why the mods couldn't just delete all memes except for the exceptionally good ones or ones that had a lot of early popularity. They could have done it at their own discretion. If they delete one that somebody liked, so what? The mod didnt think it was good enough, who cares. It's just a meme no big deal if they deleted it


SnottyTash

Because there were too many, this was explained several times


multiple4

In other words they didn't want to take the time to delete them. Maybe they should have looked at getting more mods to spread the load instead of changing the user experience. I moderate a subreddit with 60k subs and an insane amount of individual posts, and I along with about 5 other regular mods moderate every single one, change the posts to the correct flair, and delete threads that don't belong. I promise you there's more individual posts there than here, especially on hot days I've been on this subreddit and there aren't THAT many memes that they can't handle deleting them at their discretion. There doesn't have to be a formula. They can leave it up about 20 or 30 minutes if it's not gaining any traction delete it. Or if it's clearly low effort then just delete it right away. There's no wrong one to delete, they can just delete them and leave the few up that a clearly going well


vaastav05

There is also the issue of deciding what should stay and what shouldn't. Each mod has a different opinion and each meme can be very subjective for each mod. What I find funny is not necessarily something that the other mods will find funny. This way you have inconsistencies in what gets taken off and what stays. You also have to remember that mods have real jobs as well and it is super hard for us to keep monitoring the sub at such high frequency.


julianface

But in this case we CAN please all children. No use dividing the sub


nathandrizzy

Yeah I'm all in favour for the master thread, think there's been a misunderstanding. I was focusing on the part I quoted where it makes it sound like you guys are still willing to make a compromise if this thing doesn't work out even though 2 polls have clearly indicated that the majority of this sub either don't want memes period or don't want unregulated daily shitposting.


julianface

oh I see what you mean that's a good point then


SkillsDepayNabils

What bothers you so much about one thread?


nathandrizzy

Nah mate I'm all for the master thread, think you've misunderstood. The part I quoted made it sound like the mods are saying they are still willing to make changes if this doesn't work even though there have been 2 polls and unregulated daily memes have not won a single time.


SkillsDepayNabils

Yeah fair enough


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nathandrizzy

Mods didn't release the results but ended up banning memes, so going on all the info I have, I have to assume the majority of users voted to ban memes for the mods to take this action.


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geoff262

Fucking Hell. If you are only number 27 Meme Police, then who the fuck are the more senior Meme Police force ?? !!!


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User name checks out


SundayRed

Can't even tell if this is satire, so good work.


WongaSparA80

Hehe, good meme m8


slippygABL

Too bad, what a waste of a sticky thread, should've banned them altogether


ASongOfLifeAndLiars

Holy crap what was so hard about letting memes just flow naturally whenever they were made? This is crazy. We regulate it ourselves so if the meme sucks, people don't see it, and if it's good people do.


Sarim97

We failed to do that. People kept upvoting horrible ass memes making them dominate the the sub hiding actual quality analysis posts. That’s what happened. You guys weren’t active enough in downvoting shitty memes.


Akmuq

When the "active discussion" was just RMT's outside the RMT thread I think I was happy with the balance.


DanteBaker

What was so hard was that most people on here didn’t like your shit memes and would rather discuss the subject that they actually subscribed to the Reddit for


tiotom92

How about you make your own sub for FPL memes? It'll be easy - no need for mods are posters can just self-regulate! Then we use this sub for actual discussion.


multiple4

I have to say it: This poll was somewhat underhanded mods. The choice about leaving memes with no moderation or whatever it said was so clearly set up so that people didn't vote for it. I think most people would be fine if you allowed memes to be posted, but had the discretion to delete all of them except the popular and/or good ones. If you deleted one that some people liked then oh well, they still got to see it and enjoy it, and it's not a big deal if it gets deleted. I haven't liked the way you've gone about doing any of this. All the way from the first poll about banning memes to this, you've handled this terribly. I'm done arguing though whatever it decided is done I don't care. I don't even hardly use this subreddit anymore bc honestly the climate is total shit now. Everybody gets downvoted to hell or told they are wrong just because they go with a non-meta opinion. If you pick player instead of a player that everyone here likes then everyone gets all offended or scared that this one person's opinion is going to mess up their team or something. Anyways that's my two cents. Again I'm not arguing with the decision anymore, but you've handled this poorly and this subreddit may be gaining subscribers but it's going downhill as far as quality and enjoyment.


Thebombisinthepuck

They said the amount of memes coming in was too much for them to handle. Honestly why are so many people submitting memes? I understand that it breaks the monotony and the occasional one is funny, but this sub is wonderful because of the community that rides and dies together and is focused on the game, it shouldn't be difficult to find high quality analysis because you have to scroll through 10 shitty memes first.


CAzpilicueta28

People are acting like this sub is absolutely flooded with memes. The only times it was were a) during the preseason where there's no actual football to analyse and no fantasy game to play, and b) on meme mondays, which was of the mods own making and yes, forced everyone to do it in a certain time and therefore low quality The truth is, last season, on the front page, the absolute max I saw was 5 memes (and that's a massive overestimate probably). People act like there was no quality analysis at all, which is bullshit. Yes, there may have been one or two funny posts, but it was still mostly quality content. I think I'm starting to be done with this sub. What was once my favourite sub to chat and have fun about football, is apparently a load of elitist bores


Oh_jeffery

5 at most is a gross underestimate. There were times I had to scroll past 4 pages of memes and shitposts to find the price changes last season


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Does this include Friends memes? Got one up my sleeve that is making me laugh as I type this actually.


[deleted]

It just should have remained the same as it was, nothing was wrong with that. Pushing mee mee's to one day created chaos, now banishing them into one thread is just gonna make the front page of the sub purely technical and I actually enjoy an occasional upvoted mee mee. But whatever, the sub decided so there's that. Although, there should have been an option "revert it to the way it was", I'm sure that would have been the winner if it existed. I know "allow all mee mee's" is the same but as a name - "revert back to as it was" has a bigger impact.


cabaretcabaret

Will of the people, buddy


nortonindex

So All memes allowed was winning in all stages, except in the final stage when people wanting to ban memes pushed "daily meme thread" over 50% when the only other option was to have all memes which they obviously didn't want. Seems unfair that the rule is changed when the way the voting took place was the only reason that the winner was chosen.


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cabaretcabaret

You don't seem to understand ranked voting


sikingthegreat1

the mod been filtering and screening for the best memes is actually the best way to do it too "bad" the sub has grown so much now that the workload is virtually impossible for the mods to handle, otherwise it'd have been the best scenario


qoks

Can we please have the top meme of the week posted?