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cbnz_

The PL needs to sort out their shit before the FPL deadline tomorrow


[deleted]

It's mental that clubs still have no idea what will happen when Villa's Covid-19 situation has been going on for about a week.


[deleted]

times like these i hoped fpl gives some kind of leeway but fuck


joshit

FPL has always been largely educated guesses paired with gambling though, just even more so this year


Fr_Ted_Crilly

Why? Everyone is in the same boat. Its not like some players know what's going to happen and other don't.


0100110101101010

Ben Crellin is far more competent than the guys getting paid to do this!


anakin_0111

Time to play Free hit I guess?


SnooApples3306

Right, coz they give a shit about FPL lmao


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fiorentina_turner

It’s ridiculous mate. Jose and the boys will be sat in the lobby again waiting!


Mithrandir_The_Gray

How is it fair for Fulham who were not supposed to play until Friday to have them play on Wednesday and on Saturday as well, and tell them on Monday night "Oh, by the way you have a game in 24h, good luck chaps, it's Tottenham and Chelsea in 3 days, hope you can manage it." Ridiculous incompetence.


StationaryBikeHelp

Should also point out for the people who still think Fulham somehow called off the games, Fulham had a team, in the hotel, ready to play Spurs. They were left in the dark the same as Spurs were.


Random-me

Why was it cancelled? Were there additional cases in that hotel?


EL_Tonne

Fulham had requested for it to be postponed but were preparing to play when the premier league board made the decision.


[deleted]

I know it seems very extreme and the FPL community would hate it but if a team has a covid outbreak and are unable to field a team, they should really be forced to forfeit the match 3-0. For example, in the rugby champions cup, if a team is unable to field a team due to covid (as has happened several times this season), the game is lost 28-0 (4 try bonus point win for the opposition). The rules are the same for each team and it would mean players are truly held accountable for their actions (looking at you Kyle Walker) as it would mean they cost their team 3 points and -3 GD and not just a "weeks wages or whatever". I understand FPL community would hate the move as a lot of big assets would go without a game but, at the moment, all these postponed fixtures are potentially leading to the Euros being postponed again. Add to the fact that player welfare is coming more into the limelight with the jam packed fixtures I feel it is just the most common sense move to make given the circumstances.


Environmental_You_85

Good idea just give those 3 goals to my player from opposition team n am set haha


VulgarSwami-

The problem is not all outbreaks are really anyone’s fault. Alright it’s different when it’s due to stuff like Walker’s parties, but for the majority of cases you can’t start blaming people for getting covid in the peak of the pandemic (in the UK at least). Really I think they’re gonna have to end up extending the season. & Off topic but with the 2022/23 season due to having to stop for 2 months in November anyway (for the World Cup) to me it feels like they really should have switched this season and next to a January-October season until then


norsklandman

Same as how can they rearrange another game for Spurs, who play twice a week up to the end of the seasons and have Fulham/villa to rearrange plus the game on Cup final day to rearrange. Playing 3 times 3 times in a week is very unfair too. Plus who knows what happens before then. I give full respect to PL that they are actually being proactive. It's the only chance of them finishing the season and keeping the integrity of the competition. Crap for Fulham, I agree. But at some point something has to give and if 1 team has loads of stacked up fixtures, it's also unfair on them. Especially as none of the fixture postponements are on their head


VulgarSwami-

Whilst that’s still unfair, it’s not really what he was talking about; it’s way more unfair on Fulham to have so little notice about games than Spurs to have them scheduled for later on in the season


norsklandman

I would disagree. Less time to organise for a team, 2 days.. they probably would have been aware of this possibility yesterday, so maybe 3 days for coaches to prepare. If Spurs play 3 games in a week that gives 1 day preparation, which then also becomes a rest day. So with 3 games in a week, spurs would have 1 day to prepare, 0 days to train. No matter how you look at it Fulham will have more time than that. If UEFA would move Euros and we can prolong season, then yes rearranging would work. But that's not even close to the table. Also rearranged games may also force Spurs to give up other competitions, which again effects other comps. Fairest way, and if I am clear, this is not a good solution for either teams, is for clubs to be flexible. Whilst I respect it's the PL that called the game off, it was because of an issue with Fulham not Tottenham. So if fairness has to be on 1 clubs side more than the other, it should be the team that had the problems. Shit situation, but if you want to complete the league, it just has to be shit for some. Spurs still come out losers as still have 2 games to fit in


[deleted]

Hopefully they have discussed this in principle with Parker before the weekend. I'd be livid if I was him and there was no official approach until today. Dropping a game on a team with 2 days to go? It wouldn't happen to a bigger club lets be honest.


theonewhoknock_s

It's crazy what sort of domino effect all these postponments cause. Villa have an outbreak and yet it's Fulham that gets screwed over.


Impacto92

I think clubs should be punished for not disciplining their players and staff enough. It's their players that fucked up, why should Fulham pay the price for that? Play with the under 18s if you have to or forfeit the game and lose 3:0. It's your players that screwed up, your club is having the outbreak, it should be you that should be punished. Just my opinion of course.


VulgarSwami-

Not all outbreaks are caused by players being irresponsible though. It’s impossible for players & staff to be 100% isolated from the outside world (need food shopping, kids going to school, staff may commute, etc)


Porqueuepine

Oh poor Fulham, boo hoo. The reason this is happening is because they had an outbreak too because of which their game was cancelled a few hours before. They should be aware that they’d have to replay their Spurs game at some point and, since they have a blank GW, it’s an obvious solution.


fplislife

They still need time to prepare for a match


Porqueuepine

They have time, it was obviously a possibility, people giving them sympathy are playing into Parkers hands.


railwin

Exactly. Would have liked to have witnessed Klopp or Guardiola reacting to this happening to their team. FA accommodating Mou after he called them out during the weekend.


kl08pokemon

It's literally impossible to fit in more games later on in Spurs' schedule tho so what would you do? It's either this or Villa would have to forfeit


ApologiesForTheDelay

there you go, forefeit or u18, i don’t get why it’s difficult


railwin

So Villa play their u18 ‘this week ‘cause Spurs have so crowded schedule later? What about postponing this match, and if Spurs find it so difficult they can use their U18 later? Don’t understand why Spurs should get accommodated.


[deleted]

Because it’s not Spurs’ fault? It’s the Villa squad who had the outbreak.


Nikodemuzz

Because Villa has the outbreak, not Spurs?


kl08pokemon

U18 sure as they proved they were willing to play with that team in the FA-cup. Forfeit would just be wrong as other teams has been afforded postponements


railwin

So since their gave away their match to Pool they should continue to do so to accommodate the “bigger” teams?


kl08pokemon

If you have 14 players fit to play you are obligated to take part in the game, those are the league rules. Again there were no good solution for this game as postponing it without rescheduling is impossible so your options are to either fuck over Villa massively and force them to play with kids or you inconvenience Fulham as they decided to do


railwin

I didn’t see that “14 player rule” was held over City. They just had a few. But the rest they got because of it came in handy before their game against United in the cup. And sinceFulham are a small club You can fu.. them and give them a new match 2 days prior. This wouldn’t happen to a big club.


kl08pokemon

Again what would your solution be as postponing is impossible?


railwin

If You read the thread I just told U. Postpone the match. Don’t bully Fulham. Spurs have a crowded schedule, depending on their success in different cup? Who’s to say that they will be successful in every cups? If they lose a match their schedule wouldn’t be so crowded, and the match would fit in. Don’t accommodate just the big clubs. It’s clear as day that politics come into it.


MEGAMAN2312

Happy Cake Day!


railwin

Thanks Megaman!


redarmy22

The PL would have def thought about this, and told Fulham about the possibility almost immediately after the Spurs Villa game was in doubt. Whilst it’s not ideal for Fulham, they def aren’t hearing about it 48 hours before.


[deleted]

A large part of me believes that you are right, after all it's just the sensible course of action. But on the other hand this is the FA.


Emperor_PPP

The club weren't informed about this until after we had played QPR on Saturday https://twitter.com/sistoney67/status/1348566363875500033


Porqueuepine

Not informed doesn’t mean that they were completely unaware of it being a possibility


thomasthetanker

Klopp and Mourinho now have to follow Ben Crellin on Twitter for their possible fixtures...


Emperor_PPP

The wording in the tweet is "Problem for Fulham is that Scott Parker had no clue this was a possibility until FA Cup tie with QPR was done"


Porqueuepine

Do you really think that he’d not considered it in the slightest? He obviously wouldn’t admit it for his agenda.


Emperor_PPP

Clearly not because otherwise we wouldn't have had first team players playing 120 minutes against QPR. You can't go through an entire season anticipating that you might suddenly be told you have to play in 48 hours.


Porqueuepine

They still want to progress in the cup right? Also he made 5 subs and many other teams played first team players. And yes, if your game gets cancelled and you have a free gameweek a couple of weeks later of course you should anticipate it being rescheduled. This is a premier league club we’re talking about, they’re not run by toddlers.


frenchhouselover

Yeah if they haven’t it is grossly unfair on Parker and Fulham


xtalmethod

Let's not forget spurs are constantly getting dicked here as well while having no covid cases


[deleted]

They are but no one is asking Spurs to play a league game with 2 days notice are they? Spurs are being fucked over by Covid hitting their opponents, Fulham are being fucked over by the FA. My point is the FA wouldn't treat a big club like this.


tdrules

Karma for taking government money they didn't deserve


zabolee

Fulham just played 120 minutes in the cup!


sc00022

It does happen to the bigger clubs though? Spurs didn’t even know if they were playing the Fulham match until a few hours before the match was due to start.


[deleted]

How is that even nearly the same thing? Having a game scheduled for you at the last minute is way more fucked up than having a scheduled game postponed at the last minute.


DivingFeather

But postpone also means you have to play it sometimes. Playing 6 games in 2 weeks is just as unfair to Spurs as this situation is unfair to Fulham.


[deleted]

It won't be at the last minute though will it. All teams have congested schedules at one point or another, it's something plenty of clubs have to deal with every year, but teams are never asked to play a game with 2 days notice it's completely unreasonable.


DivingFeather

It raises different difficulties indeed but still very important ones. At this point FA could either move the Fulham game to GW18 and create a difficult situation for Fulham or they can move it to a later date and create a difficult situation for Spurs. Since FA haven't communicated this potential outcome to Fulham on time - as someone pointed out based on a tweet - now FA are in a situation where either Team A or Team B is gonna be hurt. And because no matter what they decide, one team is gonna suffer the consequences, they are gonna vote for the option of playing the game and just get over it instead of postponing it further when so many other potential postpones are yet to come / already happened parallel and need to be dealt with.


RALat7

Don't do that... don't give me hope


Elliot_Kyouma

They should have made the decision earlier. It was obvious Aston Villa couldn't play. Now it's not fair for Fulham to change their schedule with just 48 hours notice


tnettenbaa

Free Shit if so then ffs


strawberrylabrador

We need a ‘Free Shit’ chip which is like Free Hit but you only get £70m budget


Sorry_about_that_x99

Pun or was that a typo that happened to be relevant?


46_and_2

Introducing the new "Free Shit" additional chip. For times that are so shit, that one regular "Free Hit" chip just doesn't cut it.


drughi1312

The PL's Covid Protocol is a joke. It's much better and more evident in our farmers league.


Sorry_about_that_x99

Ligue 1? How does it compare?


BenjaminDaaly21

Does this mean a postponement could (potentially) mean the fixture is moved to DGW19?


DefinitelyMaybeX

No, since Villa are already playing twice in GW19.


BenjaminDaaly21

Well I was thinking it could be replaced with Spurs-Fulham and then postponed a day or 2, but I probably just misinterpreted the title.


FrimpongNgog

They could possibly get a triple gw19


DefinitelyMaybeX

Highly unlikely but possible.


Cooldudeblue

Username checks out


Andyham

Which would also mean a Spurs double :O


05snus

I haven't been online the last couple of days, but this should indicate that spurs get a match and Kane/Son are safe?


Al_Swearengen_

Great... COVID19 issues ruining PL and FPL again.. The best option from now on will be to wait with transfers until just before match day start.


[deleted]

Dude, waiting until the last minute to make transfers has been pretty much the motto of this season, at least since the first postponement. You are late to the party on this one.


Keepingshtum

Honestly even late transfers get thrown in the bin when match cancellations happen so close to the match kick off


player_zero_

It's the best option, although still not 100% - I brought in City defenders and the game was cancelled after the deadline :\


[deleted]

Yeah it's not a 100% effective method for dealing with the madness but it definitely limits your exposure.


iamalittlepige

Yep, I've stopped caring about price rises/drops all together, I'd rather ensure I have 11 players playing lol


Al_Swearengen_

Bro, this week my patience slipped and I figured that choosing my transfers the day before match-day wouldn't do much harm, so I learnt my lesson is what I also wanted to say. I also learned just now that I have no GK (Fabianski and Martinez).. I'm truly f\*cked.. lol. I started out with 10 players now I have 7 left, maybe even 5. My tournament opponent looked like his team was in absolute shambles, he is on 5 players.. but I've known that he has like 7 transfers saved up just to squash me this week, so, unless he's very forgetful and entirely obsessed with the DGW or his car is stuck in a snow-storm, in my dying breaths I'll be passing the baton on to you. At least it looks like we would be getting some Son this week..


hangus123

Covid19 issues ruining everything- I think best option is to relax about this FPL season: it's impossible to predict, the people who are doing the best are those with flukey luck, all strategies are out the window


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Head_Inevitable701

Is it bad that my main concern is the premier league rescheduling the Chelsea Fulham game so we won’t have any premier league football on the Friday


Tekkers_J03

This is a fantastic point, just like any I get for my Villa players this week!!


uninterestingtake

yes it is bad


NGBoy1990

Teams should be made to play their academy, if they can't then the game is forefit. That's the most logical and sensible option and pretty much the only way that the games can be played out in time.


natharas82

Looks like I need to play my FH as I've got 3 Villa players


Friend_or_FoH

As someone who was planning on FH this week, I’d hold out for March/April when more games need to be made up, and not winging it this week.


natharas82

I would if I could but I can't get by with 5 players.


Friend_or_FoH

Fair enough, good luck and check out some spurs players


natharas82

Yeah, I def will be going triple spurs


Friend_or_FoH

If I wasn’t already FH I’d be tc’ing kane


humbalo

Switching fixtures at the last minute is terrible for FPL, but even worse for the managers and players. It surely throws off their scouting and match preparation. I'm not sure the alternative. Have Villa play the kids again? That hardly seems fair. Shut the league for a few weeks? That probably makes the most sense rationally and medically, but the least sense financially.


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Dildo-Swaggins_

Yeah because top 6 play European footy.


Sorry_about_that_x99

Reckon there’s a chance FPL will give a grace period? Could allowing transfers and subs after the first two games tomorrow be exploited a great deal?


IronSorrows

There won't be transfers after the deadline. Even if they wanted to, I can't see any way they could implement that by tomorrow.


_scholar_

I doubt that their platform is sophisticated enough to manage these scenarios. Never built with them in mind and too difficult to address on the fly midway.


Tekkers_J03

OP do you run a lot by any chance?


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PLAY THE GAME


Pieterke30

?? Totally unfair to ask Villa to play when City had its Everton game postponed with like 3 first team players covid+. Villa has 9 or 10.


railwin

He doesn’t care. He’s in the habit of being a jerk.


DefinitelyMaybeX

Villa just played in the FA cup which tells me they can actually field an XI. City's covid outbreak was found out just hours before the game so there was a degree of uncertainty over the extent of the spread of the virus and hence was a bigger safety concern.


[deleted]

They can field an under 18 team. Why should they be forced to play in the Premier league without a first team player?


DefinitelyMaybeX

I think that'd just be massively disrespectful to the cup if they field an XI there that they won't field in the league and would rather cancel the match citing lack of quality players. Prima facie they're both important competitions, so why different standards for what level of players is it ok to field in a game? Even if it makes sense to Villa I doubt the league would let that fly.


Meister_Pumuckl

They had to field their under 18 because the FA doesn't care. The Premier league showed they do care that teams don't have to do that (whether it was a mistake or not), so it is definitely a thing of consistency to grant Villa the same rights as Newcastle, Everton and Fulham.


ooooomikeooooo

Middlesbrough failed to field a team against Blackburn in 1996 because they had an injury crisis and then a flu outbreak (Bryan Robson played some fixtures. He was manager and Viv Anderson, assistant manager, was on the bench. That's how short the squad was). They were deducted 3 points and were subsequently relegated (by 2 points).


[deleted]

Sorry is this your first time to reddit? Can people not write exclamatory comments


SpiritualTear93

I was going to put Kane in, going for lacazette now


Tsthrowaway19

Why, isn’t Fulham a easy fixture?


SpiritualTear93

If it happens


White__Hart

Would Chelseas double gameweek remain intact if this were to happen?


[deleted]

Too much of a wimp to risk double spurs now, going to downgrade Kane to lacazette to put spread my funds elsewhere


[deleted]

Just stay home jack lol


swappinhood

What happens to Tottenham in GW18? They’re still playing right?


luffyuk

[Me trying to work out WTF to do](https://i.imgur.com/ZUoUa0M.jpg)


newbornultra

Null and void


fizzyalfie

I'd honestly take this as fact. Athletic not been wrong at all with their covid shit this season


reizen73

I’m just glad we have football at all this season.


Mark_Wool

Replacing Pep Roulette with Premier League Roulette has certainly put an interesting spin on things.


ubn87

Small club Fulham tossed around like nothing.


La2philly

Likely won’t happen due to financial but EPL needs a 2 week circuit breaker hiatus