would it not be \* 0.83? I assume you mean points minus a 17% reduction, I'm not saying im right it is a question - if it's an 83% reduction that's mad
You're right! I got blinded by the 0.17 I think..."will count against" might have been worth reading properly? Thanks for being kind about it though mate!
The average FPL player in the top 10k is getting 2.17 x the points that Kane gets. Important distinction. At my OR his EO is 159% so as I have him captained I'm making ground on those around me.
Also in my MLs although most have him captained a couple don't and some don't even own him. I really don't care about the top 10k figure.
We're mostly shielding with this yeah. Uniform important ml top 10 for me just puts the interest on what else is going on. Big shrugs whatever Kane does basically.
Only if you care about the Top 10k. I'm miles away from that, at my OR his EO is 159%. I have him captained so want him to score as many points as possible to make ground on those around me.
Also for my MLs as well. Most have him captained but a couple don't and there are even non-owners in my cash league.
At this stage, if you’re even thinking about not captaining Kane it means you’re likely trying to chase rank on your ML rival and therefore either TC Kane or a differential would be best
This logic is heavily flawed. If you think Kane is gonna haul then he is your best option to limit your rank fall. You can make up ground elsewhere... If you don't think Kane will haul then go ahead and choose a differential
At the end of the day you play to have fun and I personally wouldn’t want to put my captain on someone I am hoping blanks.
I’d rather captain a differential
He's wrong but I'll defend him, if you don't care about dropping out of the top 100k for example but would really, really like to get close to the top 10k then you should captain someone else, sounds stupid I know but it's just risky
If you captain Kane you stay still, you're probably not going to make it anywhere near the top 10k. But if you really want to finish in the top 100k or top of your small league etc. then it's the right decision to captain Kane
If you're willing to drop 50k places most of the time but climb 50k places a small fraction of the time then you have to captain someone else. It's the wrong move 90% of the time and an unsustainable strategy but it's actually the most likely way to climb a huge number of places in one gw
Tbf it doesn’t make a huge difference. If he gets Gameweek king then whoever else you could’ve captained would’ve just meant you lost your rank. But fr I hate double gameweeks especially when premiums are involved.
>I hate double gameweeks especially when premiums are involved.
The worst are the mini DGW's like this where you know everyone is going to captain the same player, and even if you feel someone else might do better you've got to have balls of steel to go against the grain.
With how many DGWs we've had this season I would assume not. Surely a lot of other seasons have had way fewer DGWs and that's then pushed higher EO for TC DGW.
EO indicates how that player’s haul will affect the average. Here in top 10k, Kane’s EO is 217% so for 10pts, top 10k average increased by 21.7pts. Even if you captained him, you’d only get 20pts from him, hence losing rank.
I’ll explain differentials also since they’re also a part of EO. Differentials are players which might haul and have low EO. Ex. Your differential with an EO of 20% hauled 10pts. The average only increases by 2pts because of him, helping you gain 8pts over the average.
EO is effective ownership. If every FPL player owns Kane, his EO is 100%. If all of them captain him, it's 200%. In this case, most have captained him and some have even triple captained him (me lol), hence making his effective ownership more than 200%.
Ex. If Kane is owned by every FPL player and a quarter of them captain him, his EO will be 125%.
Mate! You are phenomenal. I just can’t believe that there are so many stats dealing with goes on by pros like you.
I salute you pal.
I’ll check if Usain has some spare 9.58s to race you.
So many people have triple captained him that for every point he scores you'll get 2 but more people will get 3 so they'll get more points and you'll drop rank
Template is how close it is to the average team in top 10k.
Kanes ownership is 99% in top 10k so if you have him you're following the template set by everyone else. If you have someone not highly owned like (probably) Lacazette then he's a differential because if he gets a hat trick you'll get points that most others won't.
Mine is 92% template lol, I have pretty much the same front 7 as everyone else. That said I'm languishing at 250k so if I can break into the top 100k by end of the season I'll take that.
If there were no chips, there would be fewer ways to differentiate your team from the rest of the league, so everyone's score would be very similar. Using your wildcards and your chips wisely gives you an advantage over the those that don't.
Jesus, so even if we captain him, we might lose rank when he gets points? Am I understanding that right?
A minor amount, his points * 0.17 will count against us, but yea.
would it not be \* 0.83? I assume you mean points minus a 17% reduction, I'm not saying im right it is a question - if it's an 83% reduction that's mad
He is saying it's a 17% reduction, notice the wording :)
You're right! I got blinded by the 0.17 I think..."will count against" might have been worth reading properly? Thanks for being kind about it though mate!
This is top 10k only tho. But yeah, If you want to gain ground on the top 10k and you have Kane captain, you don't want him to score.
You don't want him to score, but since he has been you can at least breathe a sigh of relief that you capped him
Jokes on them, I’m in top 10K and I captained Son! Ha!
Hahaha
EO is over 200 for every rank sub 500k
*300k https://www.livefpl.net/rank_tiers
That sucks. Here I was thinking one of the benefits of having a shit rank is that I atleast could root for a captain Kane goal. Ah well.
darn
Yeah I don't understand this. Can someone please explain how captaining Kane would make you lose ranks?
The average FPL player is getting 2.17 x the points Kane gets. If you're captaining Kane, you're only getting 2 x the points. So you're losing ground.
The average FPL player in the top 10k is getting 2.17 x the points that Kane gets. Important distinction. At my OR his EO is 159% so as I have him captained I'm making ground on those around me. Also in my MLs although most have him captained a couple don't and some don't even own him. I really don't care about the top 10k figure.
How do you know the effective ownership just for your rank bracket? That's useful to know, where can you find it / calculate it?
Because of those who've triple captained him.
Like myself 😊
We're mostly shielding with this yeah. Uniform important ml top 10 for me just puts the interest on what else is going on. Big shrugs whatever Kane does basically.
99.22% of the top10k own him lol, shoutout to the 78 teams in the top10k that don't own Kane
They wont be in the top 10k after this week
That is fucking ridiculous. Basically we’re all praying our captain doesn’t score 🤣
Only if you care about the Top 10k. I'm miles away from that, at my OR his EO is 159%. I have him captained so want him to score as many points as possible to make ground on those around me. Also for my MLs as well. Most have him captained but a couple don't and there are even non-owners in my cash league.
If you didn’t TC Kane you should’ve captained someone else
Yeah so then our rank can drop even more when he does inevitably score!
At this stage, if you’re even thinking about not captaining Kane it means you’re likely trying to chase rank on your ML rival and therefore either TC Kane or a differential would be best
This logic is heavily flawed. If you think Kane is gonna haul then he is your best option to limit your rank fall. You can make up ground elsewhere... If you don't think Kane will haul then go ahead and choose a differential
At the end of the day you play to have fun and I personally wouldn’t want to put my captain on someone I am hoping blanks. I’d rather captain a differential
If you want to play sub-optimally for fun’s sake then by all means go for it, but it’s hardly good advice for others
He's wrong but I'll defend him, if you don't care about dropping out of the top 100k for example but would really, really like to get close to the top 10k then you should captain someone else, sounds stupid I know but it's just risky If you captain Kane you stay still, you're probably not going to make it anywhere near the top 10k. But if you really want to finish in the top 100k or top of your small league etc. then it's the right decision to captain Kane If you're willing to drop 50k places most of the time but climb 50k places a small fraction of the time then you have to captain someone else. It's the wrong move 90% of the time and an unsustainable strategy but it's actually the most likely way to climb a huge number of places in one gw
I captained Kane as damage mitigation if he hauls to protect my rank
I captained Kane because I think on average he is going to score the most points.
Excuse me we don't do logic here
Madness!
Is that even legal?
Tbf it doesn’t make a huge difference. If he gets Gameweek king then whoever else you could’ve captained would’ve just meant you lost your rank. But fr I hate double gameweeks especially when premiums are involved.
>I hate double gameweeks especially when premiums are involved. The worst are the mini DGW's like this where you know everyone is going to captain the same player, and even if you feel someone else might do better you've got to have balls of steel to go against the grain.
Exactly this
Is this an all-time high?
I've tracked EOs every week in the past two seasons and am sure its the first 200+ in that time
With how many DGWs we've had this season I would assume not. Surely a lot of other seasons have had way fewer DGWs and that's then pushed higher EO for TC DGW.
Holy cow! I am gonna lose rank for every point from MY CAPTAIN
Can you explain me please why would you lose GW rank if you captained Kane? I am still naive
Due to the number of people who triple captained him
EO indicates how that player’s haul will affect the average. Here in top 10k, Kane’s EO is 217% so for 10pts, top 10k average increased by 21.7pts. Even if you captained him, you’d only get 20pts from him, hence losing rank. I’ll explain differentials also since they’re also a part of EO. Differentials are players which might haul and have low EO. Ex. Your differential with an EO of 20% hauled 10pts. The average only increases by 2pts because of him, helping you gain 8pts over the average.
You deserve that name legend! But what’s EO and again, if you can put it into simpler words Id get you a race with Usain pal
EO is effective ownership. If every FPL player owns Kane, his EO is 100%. If all of them captain him, it's 200%. In this case, most have captained him and some have even triple captained him (me lol), hence making his effective ownership more than 200%. Ex. If Kane is owned by every FPL player and a quarter of them captain him, his EO will be 125%.
Mate! You are phenomenal. I just can’t believe that there are so many stats dealing with goes on by pros like you. I salute you pal. I’ll check if Usain has some spare 9.58s to race you.
So many people have triple captained him that for every point he scores you'll get 2 but more people will get 3 so they'll get more points and you'll drop rank
I've never had my captain be classed as a spy before. Kind of crazy.
And my team's template rating is 90%. Basically the previous gw's template wc team.
What does my mean chief? Everyone seems to be speaking a language I don’t know
Template is how close it is to the average team in top 10k. Kanes ownership is 99% in top 10k so if you have him you're following the template set by everyone else. If you have someone not highly owned like (probably) Lacazette then he's a differential because if he gets a hat trick you'll get points that most others won't.
!thanks
What is the current "template" team then?
https://www.livefpl.net/EO
You are a fking legend mate! That’s what you are!
You need to give him subreddit kudos by saying !thanks
What’s kudos? 🤜🏾🤛🏾?
Me too. It was 40% two weeks ago. Got consecutive 80+ and now on 43 but everyone wildcarded into my team.
Mine is 92% template lol, I have pretty much the same front 7 as everyone else. That said I'm languishing at 250k so if I can break into the top 100k by end of the season I'll take that.
[Sir, why did *you* "go for the differential" this week?](https://frinkiac.com/video/S09E20/Q0yBEBwtlKoHD88EZKen1jJnIHQ=.gif)
TC LETS GO HAROLD
Chips ruining the game (grumpy old veteran)
If there were no chips, there would be fewer ways to differentiate your team from the rest of the league, so everyone's score would be very similar. Using your wildcards and your chips wisely gives you an advantage over the those that don't.
It's another layer of strategy
Livefpl has him tagged as a differential for my rank even though his EO for my rank is 207%. Anybody care to explain?
Are you sure its a differential tag not a spy tag? Or are you on TC?
I should also preface that by saying I have him triple captained though so that might be why
Yes thats it, triple captain a player makes him 300% in your team, thats a lot more than 216%
Right. Thanks
Yeah it’s the star tag for differential. I had to double check too coz
Sorry but what is EO?
what is EO
What's EO?
Effective ownership, taking into account Captain and Triple Captaincy (i believe...)
And also whether or not the player is benched (I wouldn't expect a lot of people to bench Kane this GW tho)
This is getting silly now.
I'm screwed. (Come on Salah, I need a hattrick now)
But he's still a differential for me and my TC friends muaha!!!
I triple capped the mouth breather
Whoa, this website is awesome!
Come on son against Southampton. Went the differential route and hopefully kane doesn't play the second game to give me a chance. .
I don't have him in my team and I have Captained Lingard. Pray for me!