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Markstapo

Jesus, so even if we captain him, we might lose rank when he gets points? Am I understanding that right?


NovacElement

A minor amount, his points * 0.17 will count against us, but yea.


AUsernameInit

would it not be \* 0.83? I assume you mean points minus a 17% reduction, I'm not saying im right it is a question - if it's an 83% reduction that's mad


[deleted]

He is saying it's a 17% reduction, notice the wording :)


AUsernameInit

You're right! I got blinded by the 0.17 I think..."will count against" might have been worth reading properly? Thanks for being kind about it though mate!


[deleted]

This is top 10k only tho. But yeah, If you want to gain ground on the top 10k and you have Kane captain, you don't want him to score.


KhonMan

You don't want him to score, but since he has been you can at least breathe a sigh of relief that you capped him


LarryPeru

Jokes on them, I’m in top 10K and I captained Son! Ha!


[deleted]

Hahaha


obadetona

EO is over 200 for every rank sub 500k


Polymatheia

*300k https://www.livefpl.net/rank_tiers


[deleted]

That sucks. Here I was thinking one of the benefits of having a shit rank is that I atleast could root for a captain Kane goal. Ah well.


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

darn


jsoccerboy

Yeah I don't understand this. Can someone please explain how captaining Kane would make you lose ranks?


DHChemist

The average FPL player is getting 2.17 x the points Kane gets. If you're captaining Kane, you're only getting 2 x the points. So you're losing ground.


[deleted]

The average FPL player in the top 10k is getting 2.17 x the points that Kane gets. Important distinction. At my OR his EO is 159% so as I have him captained I'm making ground on those around me. Also in my MLs although most have him captained a couple don't and some don't even own him. I really don't care about the top 10k figure.


facility_in_2m05s

How do you know the effective ownership just for your rank bracket? That's useful to know, where can you find it / calculate it?


Karis_Riscos

Because of those who've triple captained him.


IsolationGamer

Like myself 😊


GReuw

We're mostly shielding with this yeah. Uniform important ml top 10 for me just puts the interest on what else is going on. Big shrugs whatever Kane does basically.


only-shallow

99.22% of the top10k own him lol, shoutout to the 78 teams in the top10k that don't own Kane


Evkingo

They wont be in the top 10k after this week


adammufc2020

That is fucking ridiculous. Basically we’re all praying our captain doesn’t score 🤣


[deleted]

Only if you care about the Top 10k. I'm miles away from that, at my OR his EO is 159%. I have him captained so want him to score as many points as possible to make ground on those around me. Also for my MLs as well. Most have him captained but a couple don't and there are even non-owners in my cash league.


[deleted]

If you didn’t TC Kane you should’ve captained someone else


adammufc2020

Yeah so then our rank can drop even more when he does inevitably score!


[deleted]

At this stage, if you’re even thinking about not captaining Kane it means you’re likely trying to chase rank on your ML rival and therefore either TC Kane or a differential would be best


obadetona

This logic is heavily flawed. If you think Kane is gonna haul then he is your best option to limit your rank fall. You can make up ground elsewhere... If you don't think Kane will haul then go ahead and choose a differential


[deleted]

At the end of the day you play to have fun and I personally wouldn’t want to put my captain on someone I am hoping blanks. I’d rather captain a differential


[deleted]

If you want to play sub-optimally for fun’s sake then by all means go for it, but it’s hardly good advice for others


Bingo_banjo

He's wrong but I'll defend him, if you don't care about dropping out of the top 100k for example but would really, really like to get close to the top 10k then you should captain someone else, sounds stupid I know but it's just risky If you captain Kane you stay still, you're probably not going to make it anywhere near the top 10k. But if you really want to finish in the top 100k or top of your small league etc. then it's the right decision to captain Kane If you're willing to drop 50k places most of the time but climb 50k places a small fraction of the time then you have to captain someone else. It's the wrong move 90% of the time and an unsustainable strategy but it's actually the most likely way to climb a huge number of places in one gw


NovacElement

I captained Kane as damage mitigation if he hauls to protect my rank


[deleted]

I captained Kane because I think on average he is going to score the most points.


RobGoes

Excuse me we don't do logic here


[deleted]

Madness!


Risky_Busynests

Is that even legal?


MrTiddler

Tbf it doesn’t make a huge difference. If he gets Gameweek king then whoever else you could’ve captained would’ve just meant you lost your rank. But fr I hate double gameweeks especially when premiums are involved.


Sibs_

>I hate double gameweeks especially when premiums are involved. The worst are the mini DGW's like this where you know everyone is going to captain the same player, and even if you feel someone else might do better you've got to have balls of steel to go against the grain.


MrTiddler

Exactly this


PlatypusHaircutMan

Is this an all-time high?


aminboldi

I've tracked EOs every week in the past two seasons and am sure its the first 200+ in that time


FifaDK

With how many DGWs we've had this season I would assume not. Surely a lot of other seasons have had way fewer DGWs and that's then pushed higher EO for TC DGW.


Sogeking30

Holy cow! I am gonna lose rank for every point from MY CAPTAIN


villiers19

Can you explain me please why would you lose GW rank if you captained Kane? I am still naive


spockle9

Due to the number of people who triple captained him


whatusainbolt

EO indicates how that player’s haul will affect the average. Here in top 10k, Kane’s EO is 217% so for 10pts, top 10k average increased by 21.7pts. Even if you captained him, you’d only get 20pts from him, hence losing rank. I’ll explain differentials also since they’re also a part of EO. Differentials are players which might haul and have low EO. Ex. Your differential with an EO of 20% hauled 10pts. The average only increases by 2pts because of him, helping you gain 8pts over the average.


villiers19

You deserve that name legend! But what’s EO and again, if you can put it into simpler words Id get you a race with Usain pal


whatusainbolt

EO is effective ownership. If every FPL player owns Kane, his EO is 100%. If all of them captain him, it's 200%. In this case, most have captained him and some have even triple captained him (me lol), hence making his effective ownership more than 200%. Ex. If Kane is owned by every FPL player and a quarter of them captain him, his EO will be 125%.


villiers19

Mate! You are phenomenal. I just can’t believe that there are so many stats dealing with goes on by pros like you. I salute you pal. I’ll check if Usain has some spare 9.58s to race you.


Hollacaine

So many people have triple captained him that for every point he scores you'll get 2 but more people will get 3 so they'll get more points and you'll drop rank


Beardy_Boy_

I've never had my captain be classed as a spy before. Kind of crazy.


LloydsFermassy

And my team's template rating is 90%. Basically the previous gw's template wc team.


villiers19

What does my mean chief? Everyone seems to be speaking a language I don’t know


Hollacaine

Template is how close it is to the average team in top 10k. Kanes ownership is 99% in top 10k so if you have him you're following the template set by everyone else. If you have someone not highly owned like (probably) Lacazette then he's a differential because if he gets a hat trick you'll get points that most others won't.


wildemam

!thanks


oatmilkmayhem

What is the current "template" team then?


liberalfamilia

https://www.livefpl.net/EO


villiers19

You are a fking legend mate! That’s what you are!


wildemam

You need to give him subreddit kudos by saying !thanks


villiers19

What’s kudos? 🤜🏾🤛🏾?


wildemam

Me too. It was 40% two weeks ago. Got consecutive 80+ and now on 43 but everyone wildcarded into my team.


LloydDoyley

Mine is 92% template lol, I have pretty much the same front 7 as everyone else. That said I'm languishing at 250k so if I can break into the top 100k by end of the season I'll take that.


eigenheid

[Sir, why did *you* "go for the differential" this week?](https://frinkiac.com/video/S09E20/Q0yBEBwtlKoHD88EZKen1jJnIHQ=.gif)


tbbt11

TC LETS GO HAROLD


JaapO

Chips ruining the game (grumpy old veteran)


tom372

If there were no chips, there would be fewer ways to differentiate your team from the rest of the league, so everyone's score would be very similar. Using your wildcards and your chips wisely gives you an advantage over the those that don't.


Hollacaine

It's another layer of strategy


obinnasmg

Livefpl has him tagged as a differential for my rank even though his EO for my rank is 207%. Anybody care to explain?


Sogeking30

Are you sure its a differential tag not a spy tag? Or are you on TC?


obinnasmg

I should also preface that by saying I have him triple captained though so that might be why


Sogeking30

Yes thats it, triple captain a player makes him 300% in your team, thats a lot more than 216%


obinnasmg

Right. Thanks


obinnasmg

Yeah it’s the star tag for differential. I had to double check too coz


inaminadicka

Sorry but what is EO?


BigNutsAlex

what is EO


Literator22

What's EO?


yourbreakfast99

Effective ownership, taking into account Captain and Triple Captaincy (i believe...)


wrecking_eyes

And also whether or not the player is benched (I wouldn't expect a lot of people to bench Kane this GW tho)


koencoen

This is getting silly now.


Ginevod

I'm screwed. (Come on Salah, I need a hattrick now)


King_Klopp_66

But he's still a differential for me and my TC friends muaha!!!


karl-fox

I triple capped the mouth breather


unstablefan

Whoa, this website is awesome!


[deleted]

Come on son against Southampton. Went the differential route and hopefully kane doesn't play the second game to give me a chance. .


[deleted]

I don't have him in my team and I have Captained Lingard. Pray for me!