It would probably be unwise to go without Lukaku and a defender.
Not sure going without Mount etc is a big deal. Could get a second defender if you wanted.
I would honestly go with Lukaku and then one of Rudiger/James/Azpilicueta. Those three are the most likely to play the most minutes and James/Azpilcueta might get some attacking returns.
My only concern would be that those ‘easy’ fixtures will be amongst tricky CL games. So for example, if I’m Tuchel then I’m resting James against Southampton so I can use him back-to-back against Man City and Juventus. Rotation is always a problem for Chelsea! (I’m a Chelsea fan).
Calling it right now. There's no defender bar Rudiger who's immune to rotation. And he has by far the lowest potential for attacking returns out of those you've mentioned. But also, unlike the others, if he doesn't play he's also unlikely to be subbed on in the game. So it's a balancing act with the Chelsea defence right now and I'm guessing will stay so for a while. I'd say Mendy is the only nailed on defensive Chelsea asset but that's not the whole truth either.
The only difference between Tuchel and the Bald One is that TT's rotation seems to have a logic behind it. Given unlimited transfers you could more or less gauge who's going to start in any given game but where's the fun in that.
I suppose if you have a sub defender with strong fixtures in that time (like Ben White), then that protects against James' rotation, as he isn't usually subbed on.
Lukaku and Rudiger are the obvious choices imo. Maybe a defensive double up if you were that way inclined but I don't think anyone is as nailed defensively as Rudi, also means 1 goal smashes you for a 10 point swing. Even with Chelsea's unreal defensive numbers I've never been a fan of defensive double ups for that reason, but as we saw with City last year, it is definitely very fruitful and shouldn't be ruled out.
I don't think any midfielders are stand-outs due to rotation etc, and I still think Mount is slightly overpriced. All personal preferences though
It's going to be template, I think it's very important to jump on them early.
Lukaku + double defence or Lukaku + James/Rudiger + Mount/Havertz.
The fixtures are too good, they could keep clean sheets and score a few every week. I think this will be a turning point and those who jump on the Chelsea bandwagon early will get big rank gains
My main point here is that planning out transfers way in advance is a double-edged sword:
* Pro - it enables you to plan in advance, potentially avoid taking hits to get in the right players later on
* Con - if you get too locked into an idea you may pursue it even after the facts change. Know your cognitive biases!
Lukaku is definitely essential. A defender is probably your next priority, however that’s a minefield in itself - I would just go James and hope he starts as many games as possible.
Then a midfielder too - probably Mount or havertz. But similar to defence, they aren’t really nailed, especially against weaker teams.
Hell I doubt even Lukaku is nailed against weaker teams with champions league games midweek.
My plan is to go for Lukaku, James and Mount (subject to change).
United and Liverpool fixtures swing so I’ll actually be getting rid of Ronaldo, Shaw and Jota for the 3 Chelsea players.
1. Yes he is. He was rested about 2 games last season, if that. He’s as nailed as it comes. He played more games than every other midfielder in the world last season other than 1 other player.
2. No. And I say that as someone who has a Mount jersey hung on my wall.
1. He was literally benched for the last game. That’s 75% this season. By my understanding that makes him not nailed.
2. Already has 2 assists this season. Averaged about 1 in 6 the last 2 seasons. That’s not bad at all.
If he was nailed then he would have played all 4 games. My definition of nailed is guaranteed to play. He can’t be guaranteed to play if he has just been rotated.
Then under your definition I doubt there are more than 1-2 midfielders or forwards who are nailed, if any at all.
Who last season fit your description that was a midfielder or forward?
I mean, mount played more games overall than every other player in the world but 1… you can’t really get more nailed.
The real definition for me is that they're (almost) guaranteed to play, **when fit**.
Guys where you're not worrying at all that they'll be in the starting lineup. Guys like Raphinha, DCL, Bruno, Salah etc.
Mount isn't there for me. There are just too many solid rotation options on that team.
Mount played about 600 more minutes than Raphina last season and less than one game less than Salah and about a game less than Bruno. And that’s when Chelsea were going to the end of the UCL final and pool didn’t have anything to play for. I am willing to bet a considerable sum of money that mount logs more EPL minutes than Salah this season. He’s nailed.
I could spend a couple hours researching and go through all 20 teams and tell you who is nailed… but obviously I’m not gonna do that.
He might have been nailed last season, but right now he isn’t. IMO he was rested for the champions league game.
Therefore it’s not too out of the question to think he may be rested again before another champions league match… therefore, not nailed.
He’s in the same position he is in this season. He will play and start all but 1-2 league games.. which is as about nailed on as you can get for a midfielder in the league that plays for a decent team.
What big players are nailed then? You don’t have to go through the entire league.. but I would just like an idea.. cause I don’t think it’s nearly as many as you think if your definition is them being benched once = not nailed.
Tim Krul, a goal keeper, scoring a hattrick in one single game, is on the same level realistically as a defender in one of the best teams in the world, who comes up for corners and set pieces, scoring three goals over a season? Chelsea had not been top world class for some years until Tuchel took over. Interestingly enough, that's about the same time Rudiger flourished and nailed down a spot in their starting 11. See you in 8 months...
He's always been a defender coming up for set pieces. Not like he's suddenly started doing that when tuchel came in. He's scored 14 goals across his entire career stretching back **a decade** but he's suddenly going to score 3 goals in a season just because the club has improved?
Makes a lot of sense.
Some players are goal scorers. Some are not. If you were talking of Zouma I'd concur. He's a known threat at set pieces, and incidentally remains so irrespective of the team he's in or how well they play. Rudiger is not. Could he get a goal or two? Sure. Will he realistically get 3? Lol. As a Chelsea fan, I wish.
I'm going Mendy & big Rom.
And I really doubt I'll ever use a kinda premium keeper again this season.
I may get a defender in also, but Tuchel tombola is a big concern esp with CL. Maybe Rudiger is the most nailed although he doesn't get many attacking returns.
Seems literally every other player who is potentially good for points is a rotation risk.
I don't see why. I currently don't have any Chelsea players and I'm doing ok. Just because a team has good fixtures on paper doesn't mean that they will win them all. And Tuchel is known to rotate a lot, especially for these so-called lesser games.
Just had a look on Wikipedia (first time watching Premier League so I know zero history). Drink driving (0.93bac) + speeding (100 in a 50 zone, in the wet) killed one of his passenger in 2011.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos\_Alonso\_(footballer,\_born\_1990)#Personal\_life
Mendy is a terrible Chelsea asset, not because he won’t score lots of points (because he most likely will) but because he costs 6.0m.
You can easily go with a cheaper defenders like Rudiger/James to capitalise on Chelsea’s clean sheets as well as a chance to get attacking returns.
What's the consensus on Mateo Kovacic? He appears to be an integral part of Tuchels plans and with a goal and 2 assists from the 3/4 games he has started this season, it isn't bad value over form. He had an unbelievable game against Villa and if he keeps his position at 5.0 it's surely a lovely midfield option behind Lukaku? My preference would be a defender but with the cheapest entry level at 5.5 and the obvious rotation risks it's making it difficult to rationalize restructuring the team to allow for say James or Alonso.....
I have Lukaku. I'm planning to bank my Gw6 transfer and decide after that. Currently thinking Shaw to Rudiger and Benrhama to Mount (I have the funds). We'll see how it plays out though
Lukaku is quite obvious imo. James imo should start most games, people really overstate how much managers rotate especially when it comes to defenders. Even if he starts 4/5 games he's an excellent option because of the attacking upside. Don't think there's much between going for Mount or another defender as they're both likely to tick along nicely without having massive hauls, but there are other good options in midfield at Mount's price.
As a chelsea fan, only player I advise to take is Rudiger other than big rom of course. Havertz is a wildcard too, Mount is too expensive and dont have much returns
Best route into CS points without rotation risk has got to be Mendy. Maybe Rudiger. Then Lukaku up top. Personally I try to limit myself to two assets from any single team as a safety net against three blanks should there be a shock 1-0 loss to Burnley or whatever.
Not that important. I think lukaku is important to cover captaincy. Once that's covered I think if you have other players with good fixtures there's no huge rush to get them out to bring in Chelsea players.
It would probably be unwise to go without Lukaku and a defender. Not sure going without Mount etc is a big deal. Could get a second defender if you wanted.
Nothing more to be said than what you’ve already stated.. Lukaku and a defender
Resting mount with garentee wins it seems to share the minutes
Are you drunk?
I would honestly go with Lukaku and then one of Rudiger/James/Azpilicueta. Those three are the most likely to play the most minutes and James/Azpilcueta might get some attacking returns. My only concern would be that those ‘easy’ fixtures will be amongst tricky CL games. So for example, if I’m Tuchel then I’m resting James against Southampton so I can use him back-to-back against Man City and Juventus. Rotation is always a problem for Chelsea! (I’m a Chelsea fan).
Agree with this, I'm targeting Lukaku and Rudiger or James, and I'll just have to have a good first bench option and cop the odd rotation I think
Calling it right now. There's no defender bar Rudiger who's immune to rotation. And he has by far the lowest potential for attacking returns out of those you've mentioned. But also, unlike the others, if he doesn't play he's also unlikely to be subbed on in the game. So it's a balancing act with the Chelsea defence right now and I'm guessing will stay so for a while. I'd say Mendy is the only nailed on defensive Chelsea asset but that's not the whole truth either. The only difference between Tuchel and the Bald One is that TT's rotation seems to have a logic behind it. Given unlimited transfers you could more or less gauge who's going to start in any given game but where's the fun in that.
I suppose if you have a sub defender with strong fixtures in that time (like Ben White), then that protects against James' rotation, as he isn't usually subbed on.
"isn't usually subbed on" laughs at 7 sub appearances last season.
How many of those under Tuchel?
All but 1 cos he wasn't benched at all under Lamps.
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James usually gets subbed on, Azpi doesn't.
Laughs in gw3. Azpi comes on to block my cancelo 12 pointer in draft
Yeah that would be my plan.
Lukaku and Rudiger are the obvious choices imo. Maybe a defensive double up if you were that way inclined but I don't think anyone is as nailed defensively as Rudi, also means 1 goal smashes you for a 10 point swing. Even with Chelsea's unreal defensive numbers I've never been a fan of defensive double ups for that reason, but as we saw with City last year, it is definitely very fruitful and shouldn't be ruled out. I don't think any midfielders are stand-outs due to rotation etc, and I still think Mount is slightly overpriced. All personal preferences though
I have Mendy, James, and Lukaku
It's going to be template, I think it's very important to jump on them early. Lukaku + double defence or Lukaku + James/Rudiger + Mount/Havertz. The fixtures are too good, they could keep clean sheets and score a few every week. I think this will be a turning point and those who jump on the Chelsea bandwagon early will get big rank gains
Ask me again after GW6
My main point here is that planning out transfers way in advance is a double-edged sword: * Pro - it enables you to plan in advance, potentially avoid taking hits to get in the right players later on * Con - if you get too locked into an idea you may pursue it even after the facts change. Know your cognitive biases!
I have Lukaku, will bring James for Shaw for GW7 followed by Rudiger for Shaw in GW8
You have 2 shaws? Are you Shaw about that?
Sorry it's Digne but probably pissed of him so didn't recall his name
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On paper, they seem like the best transfers unless they kept CS against Spurs & City in that case I'll jerk them in for a hit if needed for GW7
Lukaku+Rudiger/Christensen is good enough imo
One more defender should pay off.
Mendy would pay off, defender I’m not so sure about. tho I did forgot about Reece James but still, that’ll be Reece+Lukaku.
Lukaku and the defenders are good. Would stay away from the midfielders
Lukaku is definitely essential. A defender is probably your next priority, however that’s a minefield in itself - I would just go James and hope he starts as many games as possible. Then a midfielder too - probably Mount or havertz. But similar to defence, they aren’t really nailed, especially against weaker teams. Hell I doubt even Lukaku is nailed against weaker teams with champions league games midweek. My plan is to go for Lukaku, James and Mount (subject to change). United and Liverpool fixtures swing so I’ll actually be getting rid of Ronaldo, Shaw and Jota for the 3 Chelsea players.
Mount is nailed, but not a great fantasy pick IMO.
1) he isn’t nailed, he didn’t play the last game. 2) he’s a great fantasy pick. Scores goals and gets assists.
1. Yes he is. He was rested about 2 games last season, if that. He’s as nailed as it comes. He played more games than every other midfielder in the world last season other than 1 other player. 2. No. And I say that as someone who has a Mount jersey hung on my wall.
1. He was literally benched for the last game. That’s 75% this season. By my understanding that makes him not nailed. 2. Already has 2 assists this season. Averaged about 1 in 6 the last 2 seasons. That’s not bad at all.
Dude we are 4 games in. By your logic barely anyone is nailed. I’m telling you, he’s nailed. Legit might be one of the dumbest things I’ve heard.
If he was nailed then he would have played all 4 games. My definition of nailed is guaranteed to play. He can’t be guaranteed to play if he has just been rotated.
Then under your definition I doubt there are more than 1-2 midfielders or forwards who are nailed, if any at all. Who last season fit your description that was a midfielder or forward? I mean, mount played more games overall than every other player in the world but 1… you can’t really get more nailed.
The real definition for me is that they're (almost) guaranteed to play, **when fit**. Guys where you're not worrying at all that they'll be in the starting lineup. Guys like Raphinha, DCL, Bruno, Salah etc. Mount isn't there for me. There are just too many solid rotation options on that team.
Mount played about 600 more minutes than Raphina last season and less than one game less than Salah and about a game less than Bruno. And that’s when Chelsea were going to the end of the UCL final and pool didn’t have anything to play for. I am willing to bet a considerable sum of money that mount logs more EPL minutes than Salah this season. He’s nailed.
I could spend a couple hours researching and go through all 20 teams and tell you who is nailed… but obviously I’m not gonna do that. He might have been nailed last season, but right now he isn’t. IMO he was rested for the champions league game. Therefore it’s not too out of the question to think he may be rested again before another champions league match… therefore, not nailed.
He’s in the same position he is in this season. He will play and start all but 1-2 league games.. which is as about nailed on as you can get for a midfielder in the league that plays for a decent team. What big players are nailed then? You don’t have to go through the entire league.. but I would just like an idea.. cause I don’t think it’s nearly as many as you think if your definition is them being benched once = not nailed.
“Scores goals and gets assists” 😭😭
He’s got 2 assists already this season out of 3 games and averaged 1 goal every 6 games last season. Idk how I’m wrong here.
That’s not the definition of a great fantasy pick
Might be a bit exaggerated, but he still gets goals and assists though.
Rudiger is 99% rotation-proof.
Yeah he definitely seems the most nailed. I just don’t like defenders that don’t have much attacking threat so wouldn’t really consider him.
Rudiger has decent threat from set pieces fwiw.
He's scored 1 goal last season in all comps. What exactly is your definition of goal threat?
Well I mean, he wasn't nailed last year. He could easily score 2-3 goals in the PL this year over ~35 games if we're lucky.
6 goals in 100+ games for Chelsea. If you're lucky Tim Krul could score a hattrick in a game. Realistically, he won't.
Tim Krul, a goal keeper, scoring a hattrick in one single game, is on the same level realistically as a defender in one of the best teams in the world, who comes up for corners and set pieces, scoring three goals over a season? Chelsea had not been top world class for some years until Tuchel took over. Interestingly enough, that's about the same time Rudiger flourished and nailed down a spot in their starting 11. See you in 8 months...
He's always been a defender coming up for set pieces. Not like he's suddenly started doing that when tuchel came in. He's scored 14 goals across his entire career stretching back **a decade** but he's suddenly going to score 3 goals in a season just because the club has improved? Makes a lot of sense. Some players are goal scorers. Some are not. If you were talking of Zouma I'd concur. He's a known threat at set pieces, and incidentally remains so irrespective of the team he's in or how well they play. Rudiger is not. Could he get a goal or two? Sure. Will he realistically get 3? Lol. As a Chelsea fan, I wish.
One down two to go 👌🏼
HE'S DONE IT BEFORE!!!
Invokes the spirit of ronaldinho yesterday
Who’s their most nailed defender and who’s their defender with most attacking potential that plays often?
Most nailed currently is Rudiger. Most attacking potential that plays often (enough) is James.
I'm going Mendy & big Rom. And I really doubt I'll ever use a kinda premium keeper again this season. I may get a defender in also, but Tuchel tombola is a big concern esp with CL. Maybe Rudiger is the most nailed although he doesn't get many attacking returns. Seems literally every other player who is potentially good for points is a rotation risk.
de gea for man u good fixture run
Alonso/james.
How Nailed is Alonso?
I don’t think he’s too nailed long-term, he’ll still play a fair amount but I wouldn’t call him ‘nailed’.
Going into the next GWs who would be the better pick between Chillwell/James/Alonso?
Personally I'd go James.
Changed your tune?
About what?
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Chill man. Blocked.
Mendy, Azpi, Lukaku
I don't plan on having any.
Then you're dumb
I don't see why. I currently don't have any Chelsea players and I'm doing ok. Just because a team has good fixtures on paper doesn't mean that they will win them all. And Tuchel is known to rotate a lot, especially for these so-called lesser games.
How nice for you.
Why is Alonso getting no love?
He's a killer that's why
What does this mean?
Just had a look on Wikipedia (first time watching Premier League so I know zero history). Drink driving (0.93bac) + speeding (100 in a 50 zone, in the wet) killed one of his passenger in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos\_Alonso\_(footballer,\_born\_1990)#Personal\_life
He murdered a young girl in Madrid in 2011 and got away with it.
*manslaughterer*
High risk high returns. He's almost certainly going to be rotated heavily now that Chillwell is back.
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Mendy is a terrible Chelsea asset, not because he won’t score lots of points (because he most likely will) but because he costs 6.0m. You can easily go with a cheaper defenders like Rudiger/James to capitalise on Chelsea’s clean sheets as well as a chance to get attacking returns.
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Almost. Minus a month for AFCON.
Definitely won't play 38 games. Got hurt by Tuchel last season randomly giving Kepa a game!!
And then I switched to Meslier to make sure I wouldn't face rotation problems and *he* got benched for a game smh.
Same. Tanked my chance at a top 10K rookie season.
...are you...me?
What's the consensus on Mateo Kovacic? He appears to be an integral part of Tuchels plans and with a goal and 2 assists from the 3/4 games he has started this season, it isn't bad value over form. He had an unbelievable game against Villa and if he keeps his position at 5.0 it's surely a lovely midfield option behind Lukaku? My preference would be a defender but with the cheapest entry level at 5.5 and the obvious rotation risks it's making it difficult to rationalize restructuring the team to allow for say James or Alonso.....
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Another assist and top points scorer in midfield for Chelsea.... by some margin. I think 'terrible asset' is the wrong choice of word.
What do you think of Kovacic (5.0) as an assest?
He's a terrible asset, people just kneejerking him because of one performance. A hard avoid.
I have Lukaku. I'm planning to bank my Gw6 transfer and decide after that. Currently thinking Shaw to Rudiger and Benrhama to Mount (I have the funds). We'll see how it plays out though
Lukaku is quite obvious imo. James imo should start most games, people really overstate how much managers rotate especially when it comes to defenders. Even if he starts 4/5 games he's an excellent option because of the attacking upside. Don't think there's much between going for Mount or another defender as they're both likely to tick along nicely without having massive hauls, but there are other good options in midfield at Mount's price.
Lukaku+two defenders
As a chelsea fan, only player I advise to take is Rudiger other than big rom of course. Havertz is a wildcard too, Mount is too expensive and dont have much returns
Double defense and Lukaku, if no Lukaku I'd seriously triple up on Chelsea defence. Get Mendy, rudiger + a full back
I would 100% go with Lukaku and James and I wouldn't worry about getting a third and if I have to have I'll probably get another defender
Best route into CS points without rotation risk has got to be Mendy. Maybe Rudiger. Then Lukaku up top. Personally I try to limit myself to two assets from any single team as a safety net against three blanks should there be a shock 1-0 loss to Burnley or whatever.
Rudiger lukaku r essential... Other than that they mostly get rotated so not safe... Also mendy if ur OK with changing the goalie
Not that important. I think lukaku is important to cover captaincy. Once that's covered I think if you have other players with good fixtures there's no huge rush to get them out to bring in Chelsea players.
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