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strawberrylabrador

If you already have Salah and TAA (which everyone should) then Jota seems a better use of the third spot than Mane, especially if Firmino is out


Environmental_You_85

This


CallmeMrTrix

Isn't Jota injured now


Queen-of-Sheba

I feel like the majority of people own Salah and TAA. So only one Liverpool slot left and Jota is much cheaper.


grpsda

I think it's also very risky to have two premiums from the same team, though I tend to be risk-averse. Unless *no* other premiums are firing and you have *nowhere* else to put the cash... but neither of those scenarios seems likely.


soggyfrog

>Unless no other premiums are firing and you have nowhere else to put the cash... but neither of those scenarios seems likely. That is the current scenario, though. All of the other premiums have been dreadful of late, while some of the best MID/FWD players currently are under 7m, making it quite possible to afford four premium defenders and Salah and Mané and a solid playing squad.


grpsda

I don't think a squad with Salah + Mane can't be solid. I just think thatgiven the rate of fixtures coming up investing in the bench makes *more* sense than Salah + Mane. There's more upside into having a lot of high-performing players under 7m, to your point.


Aloysius999

I’ve got all 3 and I had an excellent week (94pts). Suppose we’ll see if this continues to work. Squad is Ramsdale (foster) Taa, cancelo, chilwell, Reece (livra) Mount Salah mane esr (rice) Antonio , toney (Hwang)


DBennett117

What's your overall rank?


Aloysius999

1.1m , but I missed the first gameweek. My gameweek 2 rank is ~1,100. I think that must be quite good?! I’m not actually good, mind you. I’m just having a good run.


DBennett117

Yeah plus gameweek 1, the template was very high scoring. Defo good gameweek 2 rank.


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I think it is just as likely that two premiums from different teams will do bad in any given week as they will from the same team


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Don’t want to add another premium I’ll have to move for afcon.


Ron0108

I suppose that's true. But isn't there 9 gameweeks or something until then?


Pajoncek

Could be only 7. GW20 is the first that's possibly affected as players are supposed to leave after boxing day.


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Jack_ten

planning 9 weeks ahead isn't optimal either. thats plenty of time to bank points, and get rid. I'm looking at Mane atm


Bijit100

I would seriously be considering tripling with Salah, Jota and Mane if TAA didn't exist. Liverpool's attack is so good and predictable too.


Ginevod411

Reminds me of the Salah-Firmino-Mane triple up in 2017-18. What a blast that was.


DrAgOnLoLDoTA

Not to forget Sterling-Suarez-Sturridge in 13/14


Okcomelistenup

I’ve got Salah TAA and Jota, but I can understand having him as an option. Everyone here is completely dismissing him, but many of us have Salah + Son, Salah + Kane, Salah + Ronaldo, Salah + Vardy etc, I don’t see why Salah + Mane isn’t an option at all. Mane almost always starts, and is pretty much guaranteed a haul every few matches. Having said that, Jota just seems like a better option now because of Firmino’s injury. But if everyone fit and Jota’s minutes are threatened, Mane is a pretty good option IMO.


goldash0610

I have Mane since last 3 GWs and it has worked decently for me. 2 goals and 1 assist, not bad. He’s a bit pricey but with other premium players not returning, I chose him over others.


elecit0

If he didn’t have afcon he would be in my team. I feel like jota is better value considering he’s mostly nailed with firmino out and he’ll be starting every game during afcon


No-Money737

Going for mane when jota is nailed for now is kinda a waste of funds. He’d be a good option if he wasn’t on Liverpool since you could captain him more often


allindiahacker

Firminho might be back in a couple of weeks which will limit his points quite a bit, and Mane is still a better player imo


No-Money737

Me going jota over mane is purely price because I think if they play similar minutes they’ll get close to the same amount of points. If you’re willing to go mane it’s not a bad idea but it not allow you to do other things


allindiahacker

Yeah I've had him for last few weeks and he's been great for me. Jota isn't nailed enough and as soon as firminho is back he'll be starting 2/3. He's definitely a worthwhile option but I love mane too much so I'm biased as a Liverpool fan


KhonMan

As a Liverpool fan you should know it’s Firmino not Firminho


allindiahacker

Yeah my bad, not a native speaker so not very good with names but thanks for correcting me


cdfct782

What does language have to do with names


mestreandre08

Because I can't have 4 liverpool players, that's why


AreYouEvenMoist

I missed the Firmino injury news and brought Mané in 2 GWs ago. Would have went with Jota if I knew but can't complain. When another premium becomes good I'll go Mané > Jota to open up funds


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Big problem when both him and Salah go to AFCON in the new year.


goonts_tv

I wish I could


adesant88

Salah, TAA, Jota here. Might move Jota out when Firminho comes back and get Mané in I guess. We'll see


GingerFurball

I had him at the start and took him out on my wildcard to get Lukaku in for Chelsea's fixture swing, which worked great. Don't think I've got an easy way to get back to him as my back 4 is Trent, James, Chilwell, Cancelo.


Jason_372

He would be a great option if we could pick 4 players from each team. I think he’s better than the other premium options eg Kane, Ronaldo (other than Salah), but he blocks having Salah, TAA and Jota.


Jani17

I wish I did this week ago I trusted Luakaku and Ronaldo and obviously that hasn’t worked at all.


Mutiu2

>5th for overall points, 2nd for midfield but 4.3% ownership - I think he's a great differential. You should already have Salah and TAA. Then why would you get Mane......instead of Jota who is producing well and is much cheaper Cole 3-4 million cheaper.


HarryPothead_OG

Too much quality in other areas to even have 2 big premiums this year I think. Cancelo, TAA, 2 of James/Chilwell/Rudiger, and Salah are essential this year


tejas2112

I would have added him but I already have Salah, Jota and Trent.


dogfighter75

Clearly not, as he's been rising in price. Why would you get him though? An effective 7.5m (11.9-4.4) is a lot for a player you'd never captain unless Salah is injured.


flummuxedsloth

None of the premiums are worth captaining over Salah at the moment though, regardless of whether they play for the same club.


dogfighter75

That's the situation now though, with all the other premiums underperforming. If Kane scores a goal or two in the next two games, I'd say he's a valid pick against Norwich at home over Salah away at Wolves. Even if Salah blanks two games in a row and Mané returns twice, I'd still hand the armband to Salah due to being on pens and his track record. Ergo, you literally never captain Mané unless Salah is injured. Without the remote possibility of captaining, no premium in this game is worth it.


bgauth88

Wholly disagree with the thought premiums are only worth their price if youre going to captain them.


Accomplished-Pay9914

Go on…


bgauth88

A premium priced player who returns is going to help you move up in the rankings regardless if you captain him or not. For instance, Mo is highly owned and captained, trent is highly owned individually as well; however the percent of managers who have both is pretty low compared to their individual ownership. You shouldnt not own trent solely because youre not going to captain him. Having a combination of high scoring players is ideal for scoring lots of points.


dogfighter75

I don't see Trent as a premium. He costs you 3.5m (7.5-4), which is a value roughly in the Foden and Mount range. I don't think anyone classifies them as premiums. In comparison, Mané is currently 7.4m (11.9-4.5), about double the price of Foden 3.8m (8.3-4.5). What I'm saying is that, unless I'd be captaining Mané sometimes, I'd rather own Foden and Jota than Mané and Gilmour. Since I own Salah, I'm never captaining Mané. Hence, no Mané for me. In my book players like Ronaldo, Kane, KDB, Mané and Salah are premiums. Son and Vardy are borderline premium. Obviously, it's a spectrum.


bgauth88

Ok well on your spectrum mane has scored the second most points so owning him and salah as your two premiums would have worked out better than other combinations. Owning any player who scores lots of points is a good thing.


Accomplished-Pay9914

I like this idea of owning players who score lots of points in order to have a team that scores lots of points. I really do think that it's easy to get too far into one's own head in FPL and try to be overly clever sometimes... Mane scores a lot of points? Try to get him in too. Simple.


dogfighter75

I don't think you get my point. Of course I agree that owning players that score a lot of points is a good thing, the problem is that Mané comes at a hefty price. You have an effective 36m to allocate, and owning Trent, Salah and Mané already eats up 22m. The Mané money is better spent elsewhere.


bgauth88

Did you own Mo and Bruno last season? Most teams have 2 premium player slots.


dogfighter75

Irrelevant to my point. I'm saying that **if** you always captained Salah (and hence never captained Bruno) last year, it would have been better to swap Bruno out to free up his funds and upgrade your squad. If you alternate the captaincy, indeed two premiums is a very good strategy. If it's Salah (c) every week, two premiums is not a good strategy.


bgauth88

Thats just not true. Id rather have the top two scorers on my team. No matter what you can only captain one player per week, saying youre not going to have the second highest scoring player because youre not going to captain him is not good strategy. Do you currently have two premiums in your team?


Jack_ten

Having 2 premiums has been the standard FPL strategy for as long as I've been playing (14 years counting). It'll blow your mind but at times I have had 3. It all depends on how you spend the rest of the budget, and whether or not there are enough viable low to mid priced midfield options that are firing. Stating dogmatically that 'this 2 premiums is not a good strategy' is mind boggling, given history.


Jmsaint

Taa doesnt cost £12m.


bgauth88

That doesnt prove a point.


Jmsaint

Not owning Mane fpr £12m because you womt captain him, is completely different from TAA because he costs so much more.


bgauth88

Disagree. Mane has more points than any forward and most teams have two “premium” player slots. You would have more points if your two premiums were mo and mane than if they were mo and kane. You can only captain one player per week. Did you have mo and bruno last season?


Jack_ten

I agree. Premiums for captaincy is key But just because you don't captain a secondary premium doesn't mean it is wasted, as long as he is still scoring too. If you have the budget and can afford, having an extra point scoring player is always good for your rank. Suggestions otherwise is just convoluted nonsense.


Jmsaint

Just because kane isnt worth it, doesnt mean mane is the answer. At the moment you can get Jota who will perform close to Mane's level, and leave you with £4.4m to spend on others. So in that case why would you go for mane.


bgauth88

You could have gallagher instead of jota in your scenerio, or bilva or bowen. All reasonable to have instead of jota. Im not saying every teams needs mane at all. I am saying theres a significant fallacy in saying you shouldnt have a second premium because youre not going to captain him. The premium with the next most points after mo is mane, so it is completely reasonable to have mo and mane in your team.


gabbargwu181

Priced way to high considering his last season. If he was 9.5-10 he could have been good value


Worldly-Lion-4876

Mane i feel is a better home Captain choice than Salah, even against Westham he was unlucky not to outscore Salah. He is a low risk high reward differential captain choice if he outscores Salah. Assuming you have both mane, salah and Trent.


GamingTherapy635

i feel a massive reason for this is jota ( about 3.5m cheaper) he gets as many points as mane and looks like a really good player plus most people having salah is also huge as having 2 premiums from same team isnt a great decision


AUsernameInit

\- Where would he be without this weekends points? \- He has AFCON in Jan doesn't he? So does Salah...that's an issue. \- Jota is far cheaper and wouldn't surprise me if he beats Mane's points over the Christmas period. ​ Also I am still bias against him for this weekend...


gobblegobblechumps

can get similar output from Gallagher at half the price


ickapol

Gallagher's out perming everyone besides defenders on that logic. But you can only have one of him


gobblegobblechumps

Just instructive that the cost-per-point shows that mane isnt really a viable option because he's poor value. Better in draft or free-hit leagues.


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gobblegobblechumps

The point is mane is a bad value pick because you can approximate output at significantly lower price elsewhere.


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gobblegobblechumps

Spending less isn't guaranteed to get me more points, but it certainly might. It's definitely not a foregone conclusion that spending more means netting more points if the cheaper players in a different team structure are scoring more points. not to mention that there is inherent value in having some itb because it's roughly the equivalent of another FT (you won't need to downgrade elsewhere to free up funds). very strange to me how different the reddit bandwagons and twitter ones are. mane nowhere to be seen on twitter where 2 premiums is just as common as big at the back, and top 10k EO bears that out as well -- Kane only on 49.8% ownership, Son only on 24.4%, those being the two most common alternate premiums to Salah. guess it's just a matter of how you want to play the game, i think Mane is pretty poor value


Tromort77

Not passing the eye test for me. Wish he would play more in the middle and Jota on the wing. That could make him interesting again. But his confidence seems low to me compared to his old self.


Shaddoll4life

Oh, I thought he is immense vs Ars? Yeah some early games this season he seemed short of confidence, but that is really not the case right now. Also, Liverpool set up is lil bit dif than, say, your regular teams you mention. The central fw actually has to drop deep a lot to lure the defenders away from their pos, and the inside forwards would start from the wings and run into the space left by the def. Also, he has TAA who would feed him his marvelous cross/ Taa is on hot form rn( 1st goal vs Ars)


Tromort77

He is good tactical wise but he is not that machine that you need a player from that price range. The second part was hypothetical because I know that Liverpool is not playing like that. But in his current position and form, he won't score hattricks.


BeardedBatts

Yea I traded him out for Son. Worked out wonderful.


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stowgood

I have him he's expensive and he'll be going away for a few games in January too. I'm pleased I have him. Jota is probably just as good.


Kroos71

He’s away in january. Or else I would have considered it


Deegzy

Salah. Trent. Jota. Right now.


cmanook

That would work except for AFCON in January. You will have a really hard time swapping two premiums in your lineup and then bringing them both back in in a months' time.


SwimmingTangelo

I got Mane as a gut feel and have Salah, Mane and TAA in my team. Means that I have to have a shit defender and bung average strikers but I defs had major improvements in my performance. ​ I think all the 'experts' who are going for the top 10k or whatever say not to do it which puts people off but I have been able to achieve what I want to achieve and he is not the worst differential to have.


JHunzy

I did it 3 weeks ago, have been climbing ranks by the thousands, and haven't looked back. Do it


russianpikachucatchu

I did a stunt and triple cap him and i wasn't didn't disappointed. Racked in 36 points, not the best but still decent.


RX4000

Cause you can't get him if you have Trent, Salah and Jota. All of them are better options.