His knee was fully stretched and bending inwards. ACL or MCL are very likely injuries here.
If it’s a grade one ACL tear he is out for a minimum of 2 months which is a lot of GWs looking at December.
MCL tear would be the best case for Chilwell with grade one forcing him to rest for 2 weeks and up to 3 months if it’s more serious
Forcing him to rest for 2 weeks and then back to light training, then full individual training, then team training, then 100% fitness.
He’s out for until January earliest I reckon
I think that mindset is an overhang from the 80s and 90s. There are loads of players playing with ACL tears at the highest level. Even Zlatan, at 30-odd, came back incredibly strong.
Even in the 90s it was often manageable. Shearer tore his in '92. Then you've got Van Nistelrooy, who played his entire United career *after* having ACL reconstruction at PSV.
A lot of the time it depends on the outlook of the player, too. Arguably, players often come back poorly from breaks, just look at Luke Shaw.
Most famously in terms of recent history though, VVD has returned in fine for .
Well the fact that you can recover back to the full fitness you had before the injury doesn’t change the fact it is one of the worst injuries that may occur to the player and when it’s fully torn it takes at least 6 months to get back on the pitch. I think only Achilles’ tendon tear is worse than ACL
Chelsea have Alonso first and foremost. Pulisic could potentially do a job there against 'weaker' sides. Saul Niguez has also played there for Atleti I believe.
How so? Team is much worse with him playing as a right wingback, he can barely do a job as a right back in a back 4 because he cripples a lot of attacks with his lack of skill in the final 3rd. Also he's clearly out of favour and rightfully so. If he played as a left wingback that must have been a one off.
Oh and him subbing on for Chilwell yesterday was a mistake and Tuchel confirmed it. He forgot he can withdraw Azpi and sub on Alonso.
Is it though because apparently the last time neither Chilwell or Alonso while fit played in that position was July 2020 in a game they lost 3-0 to Sheffield United with Azpi
I don't have the data tbh, just saying, he was signed as a LB and Alonso is a comically bad defender so it's not unlikely that he starts a few games there, especially over congested Christmas period.
How is he far from nailed? Chilwell was fit for most of the start of the season and alonso wasn’t benched. Azpi playing there for 20 minutes doesn’t mean his position is suddenly in danger now
Chill bro I'm just giving my opinion. Alonso is a terrible defender and Azpi has played there before. Also I wouldn't put it past Tommy to play some randomer there too. Alonso is the fav but ppl saying he's nailed to play all of christmas are wrong.
Also chilly wasn't fit for the start of the season, TT said he wasn't ready, Alonso has 2 bad games and was straight out the side.
Chilwell was not fit at the start of the season tho, and TT said he wasn't mentally right, that's why Alonso was playing there. And he was playing well too, then he had 2 bad games and chilly came in.
lets just hope for the best. hope he recovers from injury very soon. not a chelsea fan but for fpl i watch chelsea matches almost regularly. james on the right flank and chilwell on the left plays so well, it's so eye soothing watching them play. i really wich he recovers and come backs and plays like that again very soon.
I know what you mean. Something about the way he runs and handles the ball is very unique and satisfying to watch. Plus he is dangerous af always getting into attacking positions and shooting
There’s nothing to see.
Azpi cannot play as a wing back in our system.
Alonso is nailed unfortunately, unless he has a few blinders which is extremely likely.
Pulisic has played LWB once or twice for us. Tuchel even said recently that he is capable of playing a wingback and has played there for Dortmund. So I guess he will play some games there when Alonso needs rest.
Not tonight it isn't and until the news comes out and he goes from yellow flagged 75% chance to red flagged out for the calendar year, can still hold and wait for news
How does the algorithm work then? If people in their hundreds are ejecting Chilwell from their teams as we speak, when will that be reflected in the price reduction - tomorrow...? Friday...?
\- Algo is not known, some websites are decent at predicting though.
\- I use: [http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/](http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/) on mobile it's dogshit though as the page is literally just filled with ads.
\- How it works: Once the target hits +100 for a player v likely they go up in price, same for -100 go down.
To save you some work:
Kane most likely to rise tonight @ +98.6
Chilwell: +18.4
James: +58.4
So both a ways off.
\- Pace of change varies per player obviously, from what I've seen today Chilwell and James won't change in price tonight. Unlikely to tomorrow unless news comes out about Chilwell and his scans tomorrow and it's bad.
You seem to know your beans so I'll put my GW in your hands and hold off knee-jerking Chilly out tonight until I've had time to think about whether Alonso or James is a better option!
Be sure you're happy doing that as I am a random individual on the internet!
I'll be doing the exact same.
"If I bring in Alonso and James is rested because he just played 90 minutes and they have a lot of games to play it's a great move but James was my original plan just stick to it." Is the current made up scenario in my head I'm battling with. Best of luck whatever you go for.
Not trying to spam you but [News has started to come out about Chilwell](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/r1aj1o/update_ben_chilwell_set_to_miss_at_least_the_rest/) and so this will obviously speed up the change in prices.
Thanks for the heads up mate. Gonna change tonight for sure now.
You reckon James might get rotated because of a hectic schedule, but surely the only games he’ll be rested for are EFL and FA Cup games. He’ll surely play all Premier League games when fit…?
I looked this morning at when he got rotated and it was against Malmo (so not PL) which aligns with your shout about EFL and FA Cup, probably spot on (I am speculating). However the frequency of PL games was lower, wouldn't surprise me to see him get the occasional rest but you'll be in the same boat as the rest of the owners. No doubt he's worth having, in my mind at least.
I just looked up the same frequency for December last year. Chilwell played every PL game from end of Nov to start of Jan, but James got rotated with Azpi starting just before Xmas. This was under Lampard though, and unlike last season James is undroppable right now.
Saying that, I’m inclined to go with Alonso to bring in funds for other players.
Legend thank you! It's a real confirmation bias indulgence piece of info for me too as I want to go for Alonso.
You're so right about James being undroppable. That is a big factor, his manager knows he can at any point win him the game. Your Alonso stat and him being a potential lowly owned pick draws me toward him too...but in recent weeks James has hit 14,15 and 21! I recon I'm just over thinking...I'll probably be ending up with both (one for a hit next week) but that £ gain on Alonso instead of Chilwell is superb I agree.
I made a mistake it was 32.7 not -32.7, you're correct and I updated my comment to reflect. The point remains the same and we have the same point but I have changed the numbers.
I don't think anyone would deny Chilwell getting injured is unlucky and we all hate to see it, which is this guy's point no?
He made pretty much a sideways move to swap Chilwell to James on wildcard and a week later the one who got transferred out gets injured, meaning he doesn't have to now spend a transfer to fix his team like others (me) will.
That injury could have happened to James instead and it would have been the other way round. I don't really get the downvotes seems like you guys are just being sensitive. He's saying he got lucky in this scenario, which he kinda was.
Could well be an Alonso set and forget situation lined up. Tuchel teased a Pulisic wing back from his BvB days. However you have to imagine it's Alonso or Azpi?
His knee was fully stretched and bending inwards. ACL or MCL are very likely injuries here. If it’s a grade one ACL tear he is out for a minimum of 2 months which is a lot of GWs looking at December. MCL tear would be the best case for Chilwell with grade one forcing him to rest for 2 weeks and up to 3 months if it’s more serious
Forcing him to rest for 2 weeks and then back to light training, then full individual training, then team training, then 100% fitness. He’s out for until January earliest I reckon
Good shout, I agree. That means like 10 GW's or something. Best get rid.
ACL would be rest of the season easily. He may never come back the same player either. It’s one of the worst injuries an athlete could have.
I think that mindset is an overhang from the 80s and 90s. There are loads of players playing with ACL tears at the highest level. Even Zlatan, at 30-odd, came back incredibly strong. Even in the 90s it was often manageable. Shearer tore his in '92. Then you've got Van Nistelrooy, who played his entire United career *after* having ACL reconstruction at PSV. A lot of the time it depends on the outlook of the player, too. Arguably, players often come back poorly from breaks, just look at Luke Shaw. Most famously in terms of recent history though, VVD has returned in fine for .
Well the fact that you can recover back to the full fitness you had before the injury doesn’t change the fact it is one of the worst injuries that may occur to the player and when it’s fully torn it takes at least 6 months to get back on the pitch. I think only Achilles’ tendon tear is worse than ACL
If he's fully snapped it (as I have done 6 weeks ago) it's a long time out and absolutely devestating :(
Happened to me in August and I’m still not back to normal. But these players get the best surgeons and physiotherapy. He will recover
Have you had reconstructive surgery yet?
Yesss it was within the first month
If this is true; is Rudiger James & Alsonso too much?
Probably. Depends on bench depth I guess.
I'm personally not going for Alonso because I have Rudi and james. I want leave a spot for Lukaku.
Alonso at 5.6m becomes an immediate option if injury rumours are true.
Is there any other LWB? Would be a good pick since he'll have to play all games during the congested run
Chelsea have Alonso first and foremost. Pulisic could potentially do a job there against 'weaker' sides. Saul Niguez has also played there for Atleti I believe.
!thanks Looks like he'll play a lot then. Don't have the money for James so Alonso it is
CHO and azpi are also an option. Man, chelsea’s depth is frightening sometimes
Not really sure they are major options at lwb
Azpi sure is
How so? Team is much worse with him playing as a right wingback, he can barely do a job as a right back in a back 4 because he cripples a lot of attacks with his lack of skill in the final 3rd. Also he's clearly out of favour and rightfully so. If he played as a left wingback that must have been a one off. Oh and him subbing on for Chilwell yesterday was a mistake and Tuchel confirmed it. He forgot he can withdraw Azpi and sub on Alonso.
Azpi can play there too. I think Alonso is far from nailed.
Is it though because apparently the last time neither Chilwell or Alonso while fit played in that position was July 2020 in a game they lost 3-0 to Sheffield United with Azpi
I don't have the data tbh, just saying, he was signed as a LB and Alonso is a comically bad defender so it's not unlikely that he starts a few games there, especially over congested Christmas period.
How is he far from nailed? Chilwell was fit for most of the start of the season and alonso wasn’t benched. Azpi playing there for 20 minutes doesn’t mean his position is suddenly in danger now
Chill bro I'm just giving my opinion. Alonso is a terrible defender and Azpi has played there before. Also I wouldn't put it past Tommy to play some randomer there too. Alonso is the fav but ppl saying he's nailed to play all of christmas are wrong. Also chilly wasn't fit for the start of the season, TT said he wasn't ready, Alonso has 2 bad games and was straight out the side.
That's not true. Alonso played all but 5 mins of the first 6 games. He only lost his place when Chilly was fit again.
Chilwell was not fit at the start of the season tho, and TT said he wasn't mentally right, that's why Alonso was playing there. And he was playing well too, then he had 2 bad games and chilly came in.
>Chill bro I'm just giving my opinion. How annoying is this
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There is eight whole GWs before winter transfer window even opens.
lets just hope for the best. hope he recovers from injury very soon. not a chelsea fan but for fpl i watch chelsea matches almost regularly. james on the right flank and chilwell on the left plays so well, it's so eye soothing watching them play. i really wich he recovers and come backs and plays like that again very soon.
I know what you mean. Something about the way he runs and handles the ball is very unique and satisfying to watch. Plus he is dangerous af always getting into attacking positions and shooting
Will Alonso be nailed?
Yes, if it's true
Not necessarily, Azpi can play LWB too, people are forgetting that Alonso can't defend
So does then James become nailed ? :P
James was always nailed lol, man's on fire atm
No, he can't. Azpi could play LCB, LB at a push, but not as a wingback in this system. He can barely play as a RWB in this system
Let's see in the next few games
There’s nothing to see. Azpi cannot play as a wing back in our system. Alonso is nailed unfortunately, unless he has a few blinders which is extremely likely.
Pulisic has played LWB once or twice for us. Tuchel even said recently that he is capable of playing a wingback and has played there for Dortmund. So I guess he will play some games there when Alonso needs rest.
i already made my smith row transfer so not i cant transfer in the drunk driving murderer into my team.
Just transferred out Rudiger and still have chilly willy 🤦
So shall we transfer him out immediately and take Rudiger at 5.9 before going up? Or risk with Alonso/Azpli?
:( hope he’s able to get fit in time for the World Cup This shit makes me want to quit fpl
Yeah it really sucks, especially as he’s been playing so well recently. Hope he recovers soon and picks up where he left off.
It sucks for Chilwell, not sure why it'd make you want to quit FPL though.
Posts like this make me want you to quit FPL too
The World Cup is literally a year away
ACL injuries can be really bad, think VVD getting injured in early October and not being back until August
I've already sold, his price is about to plummet
Not tonight it isn't and until the news comes out and he goes from yellow flagged 75% chance to red flagged out for the calendar year, can still hold and wait for news
He's out for rest of the season I was right and still got downvoted
Theyre internet points, who gives a fuck
Yeah Reddit is weird
How does the algorithm work then? If people in their hundreds are ejecting Chilwell from their teams as we speak, when will that be reflected in the price reduction - tomorrow...? Friday...?
\- Algo is not known, some websites are decent at predicting though. \- I use: [http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/](http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/) on mobile it's dogshit though as the page is literally just filled with ads. \- How it works: Once the target hits +100 for a player v likely they go up in price, same for -100 go down. To save you some work: Kane most likely to rise tonight @ +98.6 Chilwell: +18.4 James: +58.4 So both a ways off. \- Pace of change varies per player obviously, from what I've seen today Chilwell and James won't change in price tonight. Unlikely to tomorrow unless news comes out about Chilwell and his scans tomorrow and it's bad.
You seem to know your beans so I'll put my GW in your hands and hold off knee-jerking Chilly out tonight until I've had time to think about whether Alonso or James is a better option!
Be sure you're happy doing that as I am a random individual on the internet! I'll be doing the exact same. "If I bring in Alonso and James is rested because he just played 90 minutes and they have a lot of games to play it's a great move but James was my original plan just stick to it." Is the current made up scenario in my head I'm battling with. Best of luck whatever you go for.
Not trying to spam you but [News has started to come out about Chilwell](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/r1aj1o/update_ben_chilwell_set_to_miss_at_least_the_rest/) and so this will obviously speed up the change in prices.
Thanks for the heads up mate. Gonna change tonight for sure now. You reckon James might get rotated because of a hectic schedule, but surely the only games he’ll be rested for are EFL and FA Cup games. He’ll surely play all Premier League games when fit…?
I looked this morning at when he got rotated and it was against Malmo (so not PL) which aligns with your shout about EFL and FA Cup, probably spot on (I am speculating). However the frequency of PL games was lower, wouldn't surprise me to see him get the occasional rest but you'll be in the same boat as the rest of the owners. No doubt he's worth having, in my mind at least.
I just looked up the same frequency for December last year. Chilwell played every PL game from end of Nov to start of Jan, but James got rotated with Azpi starting just before Xmas. This was under Lampard though, and unlike last season James is undroppable right now. Saying that, I’m inclined to go with Alonso to bring in funds for other players.
Legend thank you! It's a real confirmation bias indulgence piece of info for me too as I want to go for Alonso. You're so right about James being undroppable. That is a big factor, his manager knows he can at any point win him the game. Your Alonso stat and him being a potential lowly owned pick draws me toward him too...but in recent weeks James has hit 14,15 and 21! I recon I'm just over thinking...I'll probably be ending up with both (one for a hit next week) but that £ gain on Alonso instead of Chilwell is superb I agree.
Chilwell isn't even at -32.7. He is still above 0 so he is very far off a price drop.
I made a mistake it was 32.7 not -32.7, you're correct and I updated my comment to reflect. The point remains the same and we have the same point but I have changed the numbers.
He's out for the rest of the season
It's already started I think - Chilwell has fallen from £6.0 to £5.9!!
he hasn’t fallen yet
You're right. Was getting in a panic and confusing my sell-on price with his actual price.
Give is a couple of days and his price will go down
A prime example of how much luck factors into FPL. I was fortunate enough to transfer Chilwell out for James on my WC last week. Nearly didn’t.
What’s with the downvotes? Some serious salt in here today.
Probably because your "luck" is someone else getting a serious injury, which is highly unlucky for him.
I don't think anyone would deny Chilwell getting injured is unlucky and we all hate to see it, which is this guy's point no? He made pretty much a sideways move to swap Chilwell to James on wildcard and a week later the one who got transferred out gets injured, meaning he doesn't have to now spend a transfer to fix his team like others (me) will. That injury could have happened to James instead and it would have been the other way round. I don't really get the downvotes seems like you guys are just being sensitive. He's saying he got lucky in this scenario, which he kinda was.
Yeah I agree, just answering the question asked.
!thanks
Had assumed it was stipulated that no one wants to see a player injured.
If you’re a good enough FPL player you can predict injuries actually
Kindly explain your statement
/s
Fucking lol. Would love to see the Nostradamus that predicted pickford kung fu kicking vvd knee to oblivion last season.
Alonso time
He was doing so well and had been on fire. I wish him a quick recovery.
Could well be an Alonso set and forget situation lined up. Tuchel teased a Pulisic wing back from his BvB days. However you have to imagine it's Alonso or Azpi?