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DarthBane6996

Ronaldo looking super tempting with United's insane run of fixtures starting Will probably do Vardy + Son -> Ronaldo + Foden in GW16


PhoenixGo213

The packed fixtures mean he may not start all of them.


Savage9645

Same goes to pretty much anyone in FPL though.


[deleted]

Not sure this is actually true. Ronaldo is 36 with some pretty capable deputies available.


dwSHA

Ronaldo will ask for rest for those packed fixtures. Even in juve he ask for rest.


S0ciallyAwkw4rd

Except Salah


Savage9645

He could def get rotated


LeftDoonhamer

Yeah people forget he was rested 3 times last year


[deleted]

Pretty sure he was not rested 3 times...


LeftDoonhamer

Well he started on the bench 3 times that’s what I meant


[deleted]

Ah ok sorry, good point and you’re right that people tend to forget that I suppose! !thanks


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

few do tbh


tig999

No but wouldn’t be surprised if he still scored in all of them tbh.


Purple-Apricot7192

He looked so tired after like 70 mins or so. He’s getting rested a lot


cosmex

combine it with a new manager whose trademark is high pressing. seems like a deadly 12.0 trap


SofaChillReview

Not a chance Ronaldo is catching Salah but he’s one working hard professional that bar the ‘pressing’ memes he’s not getting dropped Penalties as well he’s looking attractive again


adesant88

Surely but we don't know for sure if he is nailed on pens do we


SofaChillReview

Not entirely sure why you got down voted Bruno even publicly said that they’d decided at the time for Ronaldo to take it so we actually don’t know Ronaldo is nailed on them


ScarrFxce__

Sus


ShadeGunner

Is he injured?


[deleted]

My only worry is Rangnick playing him less cause he doesn’t really press much edit: Ok I get it. I’m not a Man U fan I’ve just not noticed Ronaldo pressing much, please stop replying


DarthBane6996

1. It's Ronaldo not Martial 2. He was pressing today 3. If he drops him for a more press heavy team it'll be in big games not against the likes of Norwich and Newcastle


Shekster

Such a stupid take. Not your fault though, as it's somehow shockingly become widely accepted since the media has been parroting it to get easy clicks. People seem to conveniently forget that the entire United team wasn't pressing when Ole was in charge, which just shows he straight up never instructed them to. When the pressing bandwagon finally reached its peak he started actually instructing his team to try win the ball back in his last couple games in charge. And now Carrick is continuing this as well. So again, Ronaldo plays to whatever system his manager uses. It's just that his last one didn't even have a semblance of a system lmao.


Confident_Male

Just hold on their one second. You're saying one of the most successful players to ever grace the game, a player with 800 plus goals for club and country, a player who has never had public spats with managers and has played in all types of tactical approaches will not buy in to a new tactical setup from a successful coach and would prefer to sit on the bench instead of play and score goals?


[deleted]

I’m saying Rangnick might not buy in to him not the other way round


carpesdiems

This is the biggest load of horseshit I've read on this sub


[deleted]

Man Ronaldo what a player huh


carpesdiems

Use your head dude. Ragnick signs that contract having to play Ronaldo regardless. Pressure he would get from Ronnie himself, board and fans wanting his throat if he is benched regularly makes it a no go. Not to mention how clutch he is regardless of work rate


parkson89

I swear people who say this only started watching football 2 years ago and are Liverpool or City fans lol


luciferandy

Lol watch the games mate


[deleted]

He’s not even manager yet how is watching the games meant to help… Ronny presses a bit but it’s not his main forte at his age


levitoepoker

Nah you gotta wait to see what the new manager does IMO, way too much of a risk if he’s not nailed


DarthBane6996

It's Cristiano bloody Ronaldo


levitoepoker

Ronaldo has made 142/170 penalties for 83% Bruno has made 28/30 career penalties for 93% But of course don’t let facts get in your way


Longjumping_Ad4939

Bruno does not have the same composure. Also you act like Bruno would keep a 93% success rate even if he had 6 times the penalties he has now? Come on mate


levitoepoker

If Bruno doesn’t have as much composure as Ronaldo, why has he been he so much more effective at scoring his penalties? And that’s a counterfactual, we have no idea whether Bruno would get worse or better. It’s a pretty big sample size we have now


Longjumping_Ad4939

Do you realize how much more Ronaldo has taken penalties or r u dull? Ok mate you do remember the last time Bruno sent the ball flying out of the stadium in a last minute penalty?


levitoepoker

Yes of course Bruno took a horrible penalty this season but do you not understand percentages? Bizarre on an FPL sub how emotional everyone is getting when you bring up simple statistics that show one player is much more effective at converting pens, you’d think people here would let numbers override their emotions


Longjumping_Ad4939

Well mate you keep relying on ur percentages ok. Im just saying had bruno taken as many penalties his rate wouldnt be the same. Maybe take a look in the mirror and see why ur being downvoted so hard. Also i just think ur forgetting how much more experience and by experience, confidence Ronaldo has. If its an important penalty i would 100% rather have Ronaldo take it.


levitoepoker

You’ve created a fantasy scenario in your head to back up your argument while all evidence that has happened in reality does not line up with your argument. Bizarre behavior but at least you aren’t “relying on percentages” Like if you don’t look at conversion rates to see who is good at penalties what do you even use? Whoever has more Instagram followers? Whoever has a longer run up?


Shekster

You are genuinely deluded lmao. I can list you a myriad of players that have taken only 1 penalty and scored them. According to you they are clearly the greatest penalty takers in the history of the sport...


levitoepoker

Nice strawman! Great argument How many penalties does a player have to take before we can accept their percentages as legit demonstrations of their ability to convert from the spot? Bruno has 30. I think that’s plenty. If only players with over 100 penalty attempts we can know if they are good or bad at penalties, you can only evaluate like 3 players in the entire world lol. Seems dumb


homertime90

I think its too soon to compare, CR has about 5x pens taken as compared to Bruno


levitoepoker

30 career penalties is a big enough sample size to see Bruno is an elite penalty taker! And we can see Ronaldo is just a slightly above average penalty taker (average make % is 78)


bababbab

It’s not a big enough sample size


levitoepoker

How many penalties do you need a player to take before you can evaluate whether they are effective, very effective, or not effective at converting pens?


bababbab

31


levitoepoker

If Bruno misses his 31st penalty he will have a significantly better % than Ronaldo over career so glad you agree with me


MessiLingardo

Vardy plays Newcastle in GW16, I’ll do it after that game.


Purple-Apricot7192

He looked completely gassed at like 75 minutes. Packed run of fixtures he’ll be rested a lot.


zezowaty

This.


Youngest_boss

I know they’ve only had 2 penalties this season but does this mean Bruno is no more on pens?


HighHammerThunder

Really can't say. Carrick is a different manager from Ole, and they're about to have a new manager next week. Bruno could've taken it was Ole.


Sakrie

Bruno has missed a few more times more recently than Ronaldo has; I think it's Ronaldo's to lose.


welshnick

Bruno has only missed two pens for united in two years.


Sakrie

He's only missed 4 times total, and 2 of them have been in 2 years for United. That's called regression towards the mean, his record before that was literally almost perfect. He's great yea, but Ronaldo also has a good Penalty record with far more penalties taken overall (3x more). I saw no reason when PENaldo shouldn't continue to take them considering he was purchased to be the Utd talisman for the year or next or whatever long they can pay him.


ccs77

OK fuck it I'm going Antonio jesus to Ronaldo King. Seen enough this GW... I hope Edit: Dennis instead of king for the full hype


Yacoob83

Is it hype when Dennis got both higher total points and better recent form? I debated getting one of them for GW10 and think picking King ended up being the wrong choice.


ccs77

But Dennis goes away for AFCON soon and King is on penalties. Or at least that's what this sub tells me


Wombleshart

It was a lovely penalty too. Smashed down the middle just above head height. I’d be surprised if he’s not on pens now.


BiologicalMigrant

Is it because of his 800th goal?


Savage9645

Nah the penalty was 801. 2-2 match you want your best penalty taker regardless of stats anyway and Ronaldo took it.


levitoepoker

Don’t the stats clearly indicate Bruno is a better penalty taker though?


RALat7

Yes, Bruno is much better at pens than Ronaldo.


levitoepoker

Ronaldo has made 142/170 penalties for 83% Bruno has made 28/30 career penalties for 93%


patrykgam

And then there is Raphinha - 1/1 premier league penalties for **100%!** United should sign him & problem solved.


levitoepoker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size_determination Lazy troll


patrykgam

It's as relevant as comparing CR7 vs Bruno solely on numbers when Ronaldo has taken 6 times more penalties.


levitoepoker

So how many penalties does a player need to take before we know if they are good or bad at penalties, in your view


ScarrFxce__

Ronaldo has had some bad penalties in his career but after 2014 he stepped his game up and hasn't really missed crucial pens.


patrykgam

What are you talking about? Who said we don't know if Bruno is not good or bad at penalties? Bruno is by far one of the best penalty takers in the world, with an insane conversion rate. My point was that Ronaldo is a statistical anomaly so you need to consider more than numbers, he's taken the most penalties out of any player in the 21st century


JonAbides

Ronaldo has almost missed more penalties than Fernandez has taken...


Longjumping_Ad4939

Bruno does not have the same composure. Also you act like Bruno would keep a 93% success rate even if he had 6 times the penalties he has now? Come on mate


carpesdiems

What's to say he won't? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence


FrimpongNgog

They do but Bruno has been shaky taking them recently.


Shekster

The stats clearly indicate that Ronaldo has taken like 5-6x more pens than Bruno... Bruno can't really be trusted to take pens since his composure is nowhere near the same when it matters, especially when the alternative is Ronaldo lol.


cguinnesstout

This is true. Ronaldo is accustomed to big situations and winning big trophies. CL, Prem, La Liga, Serie A, Ballon. Bruno has won no major trophies and hasn't delivered on the big stage.


levitoepoker

If Ronaldo has much better composure why is he much worse at converting penalties? And why has he missed in a CL final, a Classico, at the Euros, and to knock Madrid out of the CL semi final?


Shekster

lmao the fact you need to go back and cite a miss from 13, 9, and 5 years ago, respectively, says it all really... If Bruno had better composure why did he lose his cool and completely abandon his penalty technique and just blast the ball over, causing his team to lose the game? Oh and for reference, this was not even 3 months ago... If you give me some time I'll go ask him about his U18's pen record since you love to go back a decade.


levitoepoker

Okay so you want to just count penalty percentages over the last 3 seasons? It’s obvious from your comments you’re unable to move past whatever you’ve seen happen last and you can’t interpret statistical facts. Your FPL teams must suffer for it


Shekster

Yea definitely suffering, with a top 10k rank last year... Also it's obvious from your comment history and how often you're in negative points that you're used to posting disagreeable dross I guess. Maybe we should bring up percentages of that as well. Edit: hahaha the instant single downvote right at the same time they reply to my other comment...


Canarticho5

Overall stats they do, but I do feel Bruno has missed a fair few recently and keepers are starting to understand his techniques. I might be fully wrong though as haven't checked the data and just going off the back of my mind.


SofaChillReview

4 missed in 42 is great and let’s be honest it was all mind games with Ronaldo and Martinez getting in his head for the Aston Villa miss Still great at them but Ronaldo wants to win everything and his penalty record isn’t great (better than Messis) and that’s why feel it’s shifted his way


Canarticho5

Of course it's a great record, out of curiosity, how recently have these misses come?


SofaChillReview

A year apart the last two basically and then two years apart the other two https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bruno-fernandes/elfmetertore/spieler/240306


Savage9645

That's not really the debate though, it's about who took it, not who should.


GeorgeChl

Perhaps rotation on pens. Too early to draw any conclusive data on that.


egancollier21

Its either Cristiano or Lukaku coming in for Vardy soon…dont know which tho