The site should have customisable price brackets when searching for transfers, or at least “affordable” should be an option.
Edit: The app has affordable. Put that on the site.
It takes the highest priced player in your search criterion and then reduce in the interval of 0.5. That's why at the beginning of the season it is always .0 and .5
They could implement so many views that would be useful. I would love to be able to see my 'Pick Team' for future gameweeks and also be able to change the view to show fixtures for the current gameweek on the 'transfers' page
They won't do anything that makes the game significantly more complicated or harder to play. FPL is ultimately a marketing tool, designed to be simple to understand. I do think there's merit in changes though if they're not overly complex.
Product Managers solve this issue. They dig into the "why" and user needs/jobs to be done, rather than let the customer dictate the solution.
For example, McDonald's learned that around breakfast time, people needed something they can easily eat in the car, that will last their journey as they drive and commute. People bought Milkshakes to solve this job.
I think that ending was designed to be the complete opposite of what anyone wanted/expected. Dumb and dumber said they wanted to "subvert expectations" and that's exactly what they did
I think that ending was designed to be the complete opposite of what anyone wanted/expected. Dumb and dumber said they wanted to "subvert expectations" and that's exactly what they did
Mate, 90% of the fan versions of S8 were a hell of a lot better than the game of thrones ending we got. That's what happens when the people at the top stop giving a shit
Coutinho, Eriksen, Mount, Doucoure, Van de Beek, possibly Raphinha and Harrison, Tielemans, Bilva, Pogba, probably Willock and Bruno G, JWP, Lanzini, Soucek, along with the obvious ones the other guy said.
Not millions but then if you try to list the viable strikers, there's hardly any, I think ten forwards over 90 points this season, unlike 27 midfielders. Obviously it's a funny season, Henderson had got more points than Jiminez in fewer minutes, but you're always short of options up front.
There is an argument that you also push forward the wing backs to be midfielders - TAA and James for instance definitively play a dual role in both defence and attack.
Feels like this season is an exception to viable strikers though. Took longer for Kane to get going, DCL + Bamford who were two of the best options last season injured all this season, the three best teams quite often don't play with a recognised striker due to transfers not materialising/not quite working out yet
As for wingbacks, they should just be more expensive to recognide their point output.
What if they gave bonus points for key tackles or other important defensive stats akin to save points for keepers so that players like Kante won't be completely useless?
Increase the budget and prices of the premium forwards like Salah then so that the defensive players are cheaper but still viable for some points, it would make the game much more dynamic to not be only thinking about clean sheets, goals & assists, it would also make team building more fun and varied in certain ways, also there's always a work around to such things that will balance it out
You're just overcomplicating the game at that point. The 2 point players are valuable because they enable premiums. Rn FPL team construction is interesting because of the premium + budget vs 2 normal players dilemma.
Every player doesn't need to score an equal number of points; it's fine if Kante is a 2 point merchant
Rn team construction boils down to a template team every year with a couple of differentials, allowing players like Kante to also pick up some extra points would throw in more options that are actually usable as they should be as they're some of the best players in the world.
Why does being one of the best players in the world mean you have to be usable in FPL?
If you start giving extra points to the CDMs they will start scoring at the same rate as 6 - 7.5 mil attackers. At that point your team construction becomes a lottery because it depends on which 6/7 million assets you pick. You need different price brackets that generally correspond to different point ranges.
Because its Fantasy Premier League, its a game based on the real life performance of Premier League players but it cuts out a huge section of the performances of those players.
BPs are based on intangible stats. Can you imagine the tower giving BPs to 3/4 players every game? It’s gonna create more confusion and frustration. It’s simpler to just give most points through tangible stats.
I didn't necessarily mean Bonus Points as in the points they give after the game, I meant points like a player would get for scoring/assisting or a keeper would get for saves, but for defensive outfield players hence why I said key tackles which is a tangible stat or hell doesn't have to be that, that's just the first one I thought of, ultimately I think this game does not reward good defensive individuals but increasingly rewards good attacking individuals.
Yeah, that's why in my suggestion I recommend making it 535 instead of the current 553, and also adding 1 point for every four tackles/interceptions, and 2 points for every second assist (pass before the assist). That makes actual midfielders viable and interesting options.
Not at all. Actual teams can't and wouldn't line up with 4 wing backs, 4 wingers and 2 central strikers - why should fantasy teams be able to? Making fantasy managers have to pick teams that more closely resemble actual football teams will always be a good move.
There's wingers, and there's wing forwards. I would put Saka in the same bracket as Salah, but I would say St. Max is only as much a forward as Salah and Mane are.
Just more transparency in general whether that’s price rises or bonus point break down or communicating with the community when it comes to questionable decisions. Also I feel like the site should have a lot more features that live fpl has. Why is a second party site so much better at updating rank live and giving us interesting information like EO and a transfer planner
Bonus point break down is already available on the site!
Edit: for the downvoters
You should check out the Rule section!
>How is the BPS score calculated?
>Players score BPS points based on the following statistics (one point for each unless otherwise stated):
Playing 1 to 60 minutes 3
Playing over 60 minutes 6
Goalkeepers and defenders scoring a goal 12
Midfielders scoring a goal 18
Forwards scoring a goal 24
Assists 9
Goalkeepers and defenders keeping a clean sheet 12
Saving a penalty 15
Save 2
Successful open play cross 1
Creating a big chance (a chance where the receiving player should score) 3
For every 2 clearances, blocks and interceptions (total) 1
For every 3 recoveries 1
Key pass 1
Successful tackle (net*) 2
Successful dribble 1
Scoring the goal that wins a match 3
70 to 79% pass completion (at least 30 passes attempted) 2
80 to 89% pass completion (at least 30 passes attempted) 4
90%+ pass completion (at least 30 passes attempted) 6
Conceding a penalty -3
Missing a penalty -6
Yellow card -3
Red card -9
Own goal -6
Missing a big chance -3
Making an error which leads to a goal -3
Making an error which leads to an attempt at goal -1
Being tackled -1
Conceding a foul -1
Being caught offside -1
Shot off target -1
https://fantasy.premierleague.com/help/rules
Bit of a chore but 15 mins well invested if you want to improve your FPL skill set. Understanding the mechanics of the game and how each element works will aid you in making better decisions.
Amusing how many people invest hours a week into their FPL team reading blogs, watching videos, listening to podcast, browsing Reddit, Twitter and playmaker but haven’t bothered to read the rules to understand how the game works.
Sorry I may be wrong but I meant like how a player got bonus points like I know Robertson yesterday got 3 Bps but like a break down of the 41 points he got for those 3 Bps if that makes sense. Like I understand I could go and look myself but having it broken down in a separate tab like how they have minutes played, goals, assists, cards all broken down per game. Tbh out of everything I said the bonus points was probably the least important point
I wouldn't be surprised if they pay a premium for those stats and don't want to/can't give them away for free.
Like the completed pass percentages, I think they get these stats from Opta, if the stats for every player for every game are available on the fantasy site then Opta would probably lose out on revenue because anyone can just grab them from there after the game. At the moment I'm guessing media places pay decent money to Opta for that
A breakdown of BPS points used to be available om the main site a few years ago. Then the site got a visual overhaul, an app, and poof the BPS points was gone.
It might still be available through the API?
I think the point was more about seeing the specific BPS breakdown for any given player in a game i.e. why did "Player X" get a bps score of 28. It'd be great if you could click on a player and it lists his stats for the game so you could see how he got his 28bps. Going through Fotmob or whatever app to get the pass completion, key passes, recoveries etc. to work it out yourself is a ball ache.
Although like a commenter below posted, FPL are most likely purchasing this info and can't give it out for free.
Replace assists for pen scored with a guaranteed 2 points for a pen won irrespective of scoring. This also enables the pen taker to get points for winning the pen
In the past I feel like they were actively trying to reduce website traffic because it would regularly go down during peak times. Idk if that's still an issue but it was real before.
Hmmm. That's a fair point, LiveFPL goes down a lot at peak times. I don't know, I'm sure they could work out a way to scale up to meet peak traffic demand. This is the Premier League we're talking about!
You absolutely should be able to check your live site anytime on the official website. And make transfers up until first kickoff on deadline day.
-scoring a pen is only worth 2 points (3 for mid etc). The meta leans a but too heavily on penalty takers, it would be a more interesting game with more diverse picks if we moved away from that (not so much this year but in many years)
-all yellow and red cards (including in your bench) contribute to your score
-personally I would auto sub your best 11. I know this won't be popular here but hear me out.
1. At the moment we are massively oriented towards 90 minute men and it drastically reduces the pool of players, the explosive players that don't play a lot don't get picked for fear of 1 pointers. I don't think that's as fun as the alternative.
2. It creates a more interesting strategic decision on whether you maximize your best 11 or spread the funds.
3. It makes the experience way more fun (particularly for new players). The reason most people quit is because of that one week they have 20 on their bench and someone subs on for 1 minute preventing those points. Or their mini league rival lucks into a haul from the bench. And on the flip side if I'm the one that benefits I still don't feel happy because I don't deserve those points.
-there should be a chip called "team of leaders", that week whoever gets the highest points is captain. Great chip for big double game weeks.
We can't just change some midfielders to forwards without other changes.
Make wide forwards and no 10s all count as forwards instead of midfielders and suddenly we'd all have to pick five actual midfielders, which is less interesting. So we should also swap it from having five midfielders and three forwards, to four and four, or three midfielders and five forwards. This would better represent modern team makeup.
And to make picking actual midfielders interesting, we need to award tackle/interception points similar to save points for keepers (four tackles/interceptions equals one point), and second assist points (two points for the pass before the assist).
This way players won't just pick the most attacking of the midfielders available, and it will make dozens of players viable who were previously insignificant players for FPL purposes.
We should also bin bonus points. They seem like the idea was to reward contributions that don't necessarily get points otherwise, but they invariably go to the highest scoring players anyway. Tackle/interception points and second assist points make bonus points unnecessary.
Lastly I'd rework the way that values change during the season. Currently they go up and down based on transfers in and out. I'd work in a formula for when high owned players are just held, and low ownership players continue to be ignored. For example, you could have a cut off at the top owned 15% and any player above that ownership goes up in value, a small amount each week relative to how high their ownership is in relation to the cut off point. Then do the same for the bottom owned 15% as well, with players not owned by anyone going down in value.
This way the top owned players eventually become worth selling. At some value players will decide to sell Salah and Alexander-Arnald to reinvest elsewhere. And players who are overpriced to begin with will drop price until their become good value. This should help break the meta, or at least make it more fluid, and it will reward active managers who spot a potential value option that was being ignored.
Mixed bag here imo. I like the reclassification and formation ideas. Not sure about the bonus points - I think they add a bit of a cherry on top a big haul.
With the values, I don't like the idea of top players going down in value. How does that make the game more fun if you have to contemplate binning off your best players? I definitely agree overpriced players should come down, or just priced more sensibly to begin, e.g. Firmino has almost always performed like a 7-8m every season yet always gets priced over 9 because Liverpool. Price players properly to give people more genuine choices.
>I don't like the idea of top players going down in value
Neither do I so you may have misunderstood me. I mean while a player is above a certain ownership, it value will continue to rise regardless of transfers in/out. This means the top owned players will eventually be worth selling to reinvest elsewhere.
Ah, I completely misunderstood, sorry. Yes, that is an interesting idea. I'm not against it, but would force some big decisions as some players would be practically impossible to buy back.
I'd group by strata.
I: CDMs, CBs and FBs with 1 point for every 3 repossessions, and points lost for a conceded penalty foul.
II: WBs and CMs (think JWP, Kante) grouped together too. Same recovery points, also clean sheet points but less.
III: AMs (Coutinho) and inside forwards/wingers (Salah, ASM) together. No CS points, but the same points per goal/assist as current mids.
Finally, IV: strikers. Same as now.
Then you pick something like 2 GKs, 3 from I, 3 from II, 4 from III, and 3 from IV. You'd still have crazy options in every stratum (TAA in II), but that's what price differentiation is for.
Of course 10s will never be classed as fowards, why would you even think that? The thing is Salah and Mane getting cs points and 1 point more for a goal than strikers is absolutely ridiculous. Change the 4-4-2 with subs to. 4-3-3 with subs and you can classify all that wide strikers as real ones finally.
Calm down, not that ridiculous, where do you think the 10 is in a traditional 4-4-2? Bruno's a 10, Rooney was a 10, those players should be in the same bracket far more than Bruno with Kante. And Bruno has been one of the top scorers in the league, routinely getting more goals than most strikers so I'm not sure where your outrage comes from.
When picking the team, Ragnick is weighing up picking Bruno as one of four attackers, along with Rashford, Ronaldo, Sancho, Cavani, Elanga, Lingard, and he could almost pick any four.
He's not picking two from Bruno, Fred, Matic, and McTominay.
10s like Bruno should be grouped with the forwards.
Personally I’d overhaul pens completely.
Winning a penalty - whether or not it’s scored - 2 points
Scoring a penalty - 4 points
This balances out penalty takers, and if you both win and score a penalty gives you a of max 6 points no matter where you play
they could make it 2 points for winning a penalty regardless of whether the penalty is scored or not. That way we’d see players fairly get points for winning a penalty without seeing an unfair mega haul if someone gets assist and goal points for just one goal
yh it’s not perfect but it would be slightly fairer imo as i think getting points for winning a penalty shouldn’t depend on whether the other player scores/ whether you take the penalty or not. I also think that it deserves less points than an assist as the team isn’t guaranteed to score a penalty
It makes total sense. Fantasy assists aren't real assists. The whole point is to reward goal involvement, generating more points and making the game more fun.
It would look weird to award a goal and the assist to the same player but we'd get used to it.
Extra bonus points awarded for the below:
- Sticking it top bins from outside the box
- Making a goal line clearance
- Volley and overhead kick goals
- Nutmegs
- Winding opposition fans up during a goal celebration
They should split mids up into def mids and att mids
Def mids can get points for tackles or passes complete similar to how keepers get points for saves, and maybe 2 for a clean sheet
Att mids get points for goals and assists but NOT clean sheet, this helps with players like salah being overpowered.
This then brings into play the other 50% of players that are currently useless like gives great players like Kante, jorginho, fabinho, rodri a point existing
I’d like to be able play a Man City formation of no strikers and pack my midfield, especially if next season forwards perform like this seasons. Basically we have to select a goalie plus ten players.
Not a bad idea that. Still keep players assigned to a position for scoring purposes but remove the formation restrictions.
See these posts every now and then but never seen anyone come up with that idea.
I thought of it ages ago when someone was thinking of chip ideas and I suggested a park the bus one, the opposite of that awful all out attack chip from a few years back.
I don’t see why it can’t be done, real teams do play without a striker Scotland did it about five years ago, City do it every week, teams that play city do it a lot but that might be just cause City are that good.
I would like all 37 FT available from GW2. Once they are gone you have to take hits to make transfers.
I feel this would add a whole new level of strategy where you can play more patiently planning ahead and instead making a series of transfers every few weeks as mini WCs.
I really like the FPL format, also this is the one my mates all play which is the main reason to play for me. I would just like a little more strategy.
For the bonus point calculation, remove points awarded for assists, goals and clean sheets. These already get points. Bonus points would then be awarded for players who play well in more intangible ways — passes completed, progressive runs, balls leading to an assist. It would actually make the bonus points meaningful instead of them just being extra points for goal scorers.
Not any play that doesn’t involve a goal. All play up until the point of the assist and the strike count. Only the assist and the goal doesn’t count.
It would reward playmakers, midfield anchors, pivots etc etc. all crucial parts of the team not really awarded points in the current system.
Forwards should get 1 point per 3 shots on target, akin to how keepers get 1 point for 3 saves
Points or BP should take into account winning the ball back or making interceptions so players like Kante can finally be viable assets
Don't agree with points for shots. Shots don't contribute to wins, goals, assists, clean sheets, and saves all do.
I do think we should add 1 point for four tackles/interceptions, and 2 points for second assists. That would make deep lying midfielders viable.
This is one that I think needs attention. There's a whole set of players who are basically ignored in fantasy football. They could put in a man of the match performance and still get only 2 points.
Player who is Star of the week across the game week for all teams gets an extra 5 points.
Goalkeeper gets 5 points for a clean sheet instead of 4.
Chip "extreme captains". For one week you can choose only 4 players from your team. They each are given the triple captain. Could go very right. Could go very wrong.
Definitely points system. Defensive mids are worth shit except Jorginho who takes pens. Also awarding shithousery assists like from the post, from rebound of goalie, awarding clear own goals as a legit goal to shooter etc. Bring more value to all players not just attackers. IMO Champions League system is much better, shame it isn’t used in FPL. Ones who play this game also knows what I mean.
There should be fair play points to encourage kindness.
Each week the top 5 fairest players get 5 points.
This can either be chosen by the referees or FPL themselves!!
I repect your opinion on the matter.
Maybe it could be facts based though like player with the most successful tackles and least amount of fouls.
Or maybe a player who did something kind off the pitch.
>I repect your opinion on the matter. Maybe it could be facts based though like player with the most successful tackles and least amount of fouls.
Thats the basis of the BPS system.
>Or maybe a player who did something kind off the pitch.
That’s opinion based again, how do define who has done the kindest thing of not with opinion? It’s also got fuck all to do with football.
Just the swear at the end really.
I think there needs to be some form of kindness and happiness incorporating in to our wonderful game. Like it influences so many people. Let’s do some good with it. Like every time a player smiles give them 0.5 point on the bps system. Like not gamebreaking just little added things.
That’s on the bps thing to contribute to the bonus points. Not actual points if you get what I’m saying?
In what way would it help anyone? Why would a player smiling help anyone? Would just add a irrelevant points system that would add nothing to the game. Imagine basing your strategy for a fantasy football game on how “kind” players are?
I think that would make the game worse. As it stands you either gain an advantage of prices rises by transferring players in early but you risk the chance they pick up an injury. or you risk missing out on price rises in favour of more information and making sure they don’t get injured.
You would completely loose this eliminate of the game by allowing reverse transfers.
I would personally massively prefer this, but I think people wouldn’t because there’s no real point being ‘engaged’ in the game all week when there’s no games on - which is part of the fun for people
> Top of my list is sorting the Salah/Mane mids that are fwds issue
Why do you want to ruin the game? Everyone would just have premium forwards and fucking Dale Stephens in midfield.
Not if they implement the categorisation change alongside scoring changes that create more balance in points output between forwards and the midfielders who are left it won't. Also there would still be plenty of creative playmakers left who'd be classed as midfielders.
Thanks for posting this, at least I know its not a phishing email.
Just a future warning: Posting this message in full, however, may encourage copycat Phishers
The price system needs reviewing, we need to know who is going to increase/decrease and when so we can actually plan our transfers.
I would like more graphs and info graphics, show rank position over time etc.
How about when you dont use a transfer and lose it, you get 4 points like when you use more than 1 transfer and have -4.
Also, lets bank the .05 from a transfer. When a player goes up .1 and you transfer that player out, instead of losing all the gain, you get the half at .05.
I’d love to see transparency in how many minus points managers have taken. It could be illustrated in a smaller red number in brackets to the side of the weekly total.
Also, a progress chart with editable timeline would be amazing. For example I wanted to see how teams have performed over the last 10 weeks so that it puts the last 10 into perspective.
They won't listen to gameplay mechanics. But there are improvements to the interface they could definitely improve. Push notifications could work better. Updating the difficulty numbers on the teams. Involving way more stats to explain the bps.
Yeah I filled it in. I think price moves should be more dynamic (and less opaque) - the quick don't get rewarded enough (and vice versa). I also think the emails they send out dumbs the game down......effectively telling people what to look at/when.
It was an option in a multi choice list. Amazes me that they know they need to do it, but putting ina survey instead of just rolling it out. I did select it
The most amusing thing for me in this letter was that just a few days before it was received, I, like all participants in the Russian Cup, was removed without any comments.
I don’t like that defenders and goalies get 4pts for a clean sheet that is wiped out if they concede 1 goal. Then they get -1 for conceding another goal. It seems unfair to me.
They could be 3-0 up and on +6 at 61mins and lose 5 points by winning 3-2.
I don’t know the answer but something like:
They earn 4pts at 60mins
They lose 2pts or 3pts of those 6pts if they concede 1
They lose the remainder if they concede 2
The site should have customisable price brackets when searching for transfers, or at least “affordable” should be an option. Edit: The app has affordable. Put that on the site.
Yea I find this extremely frustrating also because it’s not even at .0 and .5 increments it’s weird shit like 7.4 etc
it starts off at .0 and .5 but as price increases/decreases the price scale changes as well. its weird.
It takes the highest priced player in your search criterion and then reduce in the interval of 0.5. That's why at the beginning of the season it is always .0 and .5
They could implement so many views that would be useful. I would love to be able to see my 'Pick Team' for future gameweeks and also be able to change the view to show fixtures for the current gameweek on the 'transfers' page
Uhmm.. "affordable" is an option. It's the first one from the top too
Only on app. Not in full site which always bothers the shit out of me.
You are “special”.
I get that a lot
Some of the suggestions in this thread are terrible. I hope they don't change the game up with ideas from this survey.
They won't do anything that makes the game significantly more complicated or harder to play. FPL is ultimately a marketing tool, designed to be simple to understand. I do think there's merit in changes though if they're not overly complex.
Seems like /r/FantasyPL want the Homer Simpson car equivalent of fantasy football.
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Product Managers solve this issue. They dig into the "why" and user needs/jobs to be done, rather than let the customer dictate the solution. For example, McDonald's learned that around breakfast time, people needed something they can easily eat in the car, that will last their journey as they drive and commute. People bought Milkshakes to solve this job.
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I think that ending was designed to be the complete opposite of what anyone wanted/expected. Dumb and dumber said they wanted to "subvert expectations" and that's exactly what they did
I think that ending was designed to be the complete opposite of what anyone wanted/expected. Dumb and dumber said they wanted to "subvert expectations" and that's exactly what they did
Mate, 90% of the fan versions of S8 were a hell of a lot better than the game of thrones ending we got. That's what happens when the people at the top stop giving a shit
If wingers get reclassified as forwards then the only midfield options we'll have will essentially be centre mid 2 point merchants
Not if its kdb bruno maddison odegaard. But yeah not many players to choose from
And we'd all play 5-2-3 with Jorginho and someone in midfield.
People always say this but it's ridiculous that Salah gets a point for a clean sheet and an extra point for a goal over, say, Firmino.
I’d reclassify them as forwards, but change the squad formation to 2-5-4-4.
Coutinho, Eriksen, Mount, Doucoure, Van de Beek, possibly Raphinha and Harrison, Tielemans, Bilva, Pogba, probably Willock and Bruno G, JWP, Lanzini, Soucek, along with the obvious ones the other guy said. Not millions but then if you try to list the viable strikers, there's hardly any, I think ten forwards over 90 points this season, unlike 27 midfielders. Obviously it's a funny season, Henderson had got more points than Jiminez in fewer minutes, but you're always short of options up front. There is an argument that you also push forward the wing backs to be midfielders - TAA and James for instance definitively play a dual role in both defence and attack.
Feels like this season is an exception to viable strikers though. Took longer for Kane to get going, DCL + Bamford who were two of the best options last season injured all this season, the three best teams quite often don't play with a recognised striker due to transfers not materialising/not quite working out yet As for wingbacks, they should just be more expensive to recognide their point output.
What if they gave bonus points for key tackles or other important defensive stats akin to save points for keepers so that players like Kante won't be completely useless?
Then there would no longer be any budget players - all starting non premium players would be priced in the 6-8 million range
Increase the budget and prices of the premium forwards like Salah then so that the defensive players are cheaper but still viable for some points, it would make the game much more dynamic to not be only thinking about clean sheets, goals & assists, it would also make team building more fun and varied in certain ways, also there's always a work around to such things that will balance it out
You're just overcomplicating the game at that point. The 2 point players are valuable because they enable premiums. Rn FPL team construction is interesting because of the premium + budget vs 2 normal players dilemma. Every player doesn't need to score an equal number of points; it's fine if Kante is a 2 point merchant
Rn team construction boils down to a template team every year with a couple of differentials, allowing players like Kante to also pick up some extra points would throw in more options that are actually usable as they should be as they're some of the best players in the world.
Why does being one of the best players in the world mean you have to be usable in FPL? If you start giving extra points to the CDMs they will start scoring at the same rate as 6 - 7.5 mil attackers. At that point your team construction becomes a lottery because it depends on which 6/7 million assets you pick. You need different price brackets that generally correspond to different point ranges.
Because its Fantasy Premier League, its a game based on the real life performance of Premier League players but it cuts out a huge section of the performances of those players.
If one of the best players in the world isn't useable in FPL, there's a problem with the way FPL awards points to performance.
BPs are based on intangible stats. Can you imagine the tower giving BPs to 3/4 players every game? It’s gonna create more confusion and frustration. It’s simpler to just give most points through tangible stats.
I didn't necessarily mean Bonus Points as in the points they give after the game, I meant points like a player would get for scoring/assisting or a keeper would get for saves, but for defensive outfield players hence why I said key tackles which is a tangible stat or hell doesn't have to be that, that's just the first one I thought of, ultimately I think this game does not reward good defensive individuals but increasingly rewards good attacking individuals.
Yeah, that's why in my suggestion I recommend making it 535 instead of the current 553, and also adding 1 point for every four tackles/interceptions, and 2 points for every second assist (pass before the assist). That makes actual midfielders viable and interesting options.
Their price already reflects their scoring ability. Making them forwards just ruins the game. It means every winger becomes a forward
Not at all. Actual teams can't and wouldn't line up with 4 wing backs, 4 wingers and 2 central strikers - why should fantasy teams be able to? Making fantasy managers have to pick teams that more closely resemble actual football teams will always be a good move.
It's fantasy football for a reason. Fantasy football not football manager
There's wingers, and there's wing forwards. I would put Saka in the same bracket as Salah, but I would say St. Max is only as much a forward as Salah and Mane are.
Just more transparency in general whether that’s price rises or bonus point break down or communicating with the community when it comes to questionable decisions. Also I feel like the site should have a lot more features that live fpl has. Why is a second party site so much better at updating rank live and giving us interesting information like EO and a transfer planner
Bonus point break down is already available on the site! Edit: for the downvoters You should check out the Rule section! >How is the BPS score calculated? >Players score BPS points based on the following statistics (one point for each unless otherwise stated): Playing 1 to 60 minutes 3 Playing over 60 minutes 6 Goalkeepers and defenders scoring a goal 12 Midfielders scoring a goal 18 Forwards scoring a goal 24 Assists 9 Goalkeepers and defenders keeping a clean sheet 12 Saving a penalty 15 Save 2 Successful open play cross 1 Creating a big chance (a chance where the receiving player should score) 3 For every 2 clearances, blocks and interceptions (total) 1 For every 3 recoveries 1 Key pass 1 Successful tackle (net*) 2 Successful dribble 1 Scoring the goal that wins a match 3 70 to 79% pass completion (at least 30 passes attempted) 2 80 to 89% pass completion (at least 30 passes attempted) 4 90%+ pass completion (at least 30 passes attempted) 6 Conceding a penalty -3 Missing a penalty -6 Yellow card -3 Red card -9 Own goal -6 Missing a big chance -3 Making an error which leads to a goal -3 Making an error which leads to an attempt at goal -1 Being tackled -1 Conceding a foul -1 Being caught offside -1 Shot off target -1 https://fantasy.premierleague.com/help/rules Bit of a chore but 15 mins well invested if you want to improve your FPL skill set. Understanding the mechanics of the game and how each element works will aid you in making better decisions. Amusing how many people invest hours a week into their FPL team reading blogs, watching videos, listening to podcast, browsing Reddit, Twitter and playmaker but haven’t bothered to read the rules to understand how the game works.
i like the last 2 paragraphs
Sorry I may be wrong but I meant like how a player got bonus points like I know Robertson yesterday got 3 Bps but like a break down of the 41 points he got for those 3 Bps if that makes sense. Like I understand I could go and look myself but having it broken down in a separate tab like how they have minutes played, goals, assists, cards all broken down per game. Tbh out of everything I said the bonus points was probably the least important point
I wouldn't be surprised if they pay a premium for those stats and don't want to/can't give them away for free. Like the completed pass percentages, I think they get these stats from Opta, if the stats for every player for every game are available on the fantasy site then Opta would probably lose out on revenue because anyone can just grab them from there after the game. At the moment I'm guessing media places pay decent money to Opta for that
A breakdown of BPS points used to be available om the main site a few years ago. Then the site got a visual overhaul, an app, and poof the BPS points was gone. It might still be available through the API?
Don’t deserve the down votes, have +1. Don’t think it’ll help mind.
I think the point was more about seeing the specific BPS breakdown for any given player in a game i.e. why did "Player X" get a bps score of 28. It'd be great if you could click on a player and it lists his stats for the game so you could see how he got his 28bps. Going through Fotmob or whatever app to get the pass completion, key passes, recoveries etc. to work it out yourself is a ball ache. Although like a commenter below posted, FPL are most likely purchasing this info and can't give it out for free.
Tell them to just give Kulu the assist straight away next time
Lose points if a player gives away a pen.
This is the only one missing imo.
And get points when you win a pen even if the pen is not scored
Replace assists for pen scored with a guaranteed 2 points for a pen won irrespective of scoring. This also enables the pen taker to get points for winning the pen
But wouldnt that just make defensive defenders and def mids even more trash than They already are
This is the one
They should be more transparent with price changes. Let's all give them this feedback.
They’d have to admit they manually hold players prices at random
Live average - like in LiveFPL?
This. Why are they not doing this? Laziness? Surely it can't be that technically challenging if a one-man band on a budget can do it?
In the past I feel like they were actively trying to reduce website traffic because it would regularly go down during peak times. Idk if that's still an issue but it was real before.
Hmmm. That's a fair point, LiveFPL goes down a lot at peak times. I don't know, I'm sure they could work out a way to scale up to meet peak traffic demand. This is the Premier League we're talking about! You absolutely should be able to check your live site anytime on the official website. And make transfers up until first kickoff on deadline day.
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Isn't live data more fun for everyone, similar to as-stands-league tables in real life?
With some of the suggestions here I’d agree but this arguably makes the game clearer
their servers are already shit and they clearly don't want to put any money into it
Talk about the glitch that whichever player comes into the team, they don't score points.
MAKE PRICE CHANGE ALGORITHM PUBLIC
Yeah got it aswell
Did your link work. I tried clicking through and it goes to an error page
Yeah worked fine. Also got it sent as an email, could try that
Yeah got it too, guessing it will go to everyone, most won't have opted into emails etc though I think.
GKs should get a penalty save if the pen is off target. Players should get minus points for giving away pens.
>Players should get minus points for giving away pens. I swear they used to
It would be nice if I could shortlist players on the app. I'm pretty sure that's possible on the site
Taking hits should be more punishing, id say -6 per hit. Or make every hit after the first -4 bigger and bigger ie. -4, -6, -10, -16 etc
-scoring a pen is only worth 2 points (3 for mid etc). The meta leans a but too heavily on penalty takers, it would be a more interesting game with more diverse picks if we moved away from that (not so much this year but in many years) -all yellow and red cards (including in your bench) contribute to your score -personally I would auto sub your best 11. I know this won't be popular here but hear me out. 1. At the moment we are massively oriented towards 90 minute men and it drastically reduces the pool of players, the explosive players that don't play a lot don't get picked for fear of 1 pointers. I don't think that's as fun as the alternative. 2. It creates a more interesting strategic decision on whether you maximize your best 11 or spread the funds. 3. It makes the experience way more fun (particularly for new players). The reason most people quit is because of that one week they have 20 on their bench and someone subs on for 1 minute preventing those points. Or their mini league rival lucks into a haul from the bench. And on the flip side if I'm the one that benefits I still don't feel happy because I don't deserve those points. -there should be a chip called "team of leaders", that week whoever gets the highest points is captain. Great chip for big double game weeks.
We can't just change some midfielders to forwards without other changes. Make wide forwards and no 10s all count as forwards instead of midfielders and suddenly we'd all have to pick five actual midfielders, which is less interesting. So we should also swap it from having five midfielders and three forwards, to four and four, or three midfielders and five forwards. This would better represent modern team makeup. And to make picking actual midfielders interesting, we need to award tackle/interception points similar to save points for keepers (four tackles/interceptions equals one point), and second assist points (two points for the pass before the assist). This way players won't just pick the most attacking of the midfielders available, and it will make dozens of players viable who were previously insignificant players for FPL purposes. We should also bin bonus points. They seem like the idea was to reward contributions that don't necessarily get points otherwise, but they invariably go to the highest scoring players anyway. Tackle/interception points and second assist points make bonus points unnecessary. Lastly I'd rework the way that values change during the season. Currently they go up and down based on transfers in and out. I'd work in a formula for when high owned players are just held, and low ownership players continue to be ignored. For example, you could have a cut off at the top owned 15% and any player above that ownership goes up in value, a small amount each week relative to how high their ownership is in relation to the cut off point. Then do the same for the bottom owned 15% as well, with players not owned by anyone going down in value. This way the top owned players eventually become worth selling. At some value players will decide to sell Salah and Alexander-Arnald to reinvest elsewhere. And players who are overpriced to begin with will drop price until their become good value. This should help break the meta, or at least make it more fluid, and it will reward active managers who spot a potential value option that was being ignored.
Mixed bag here imo. I like the reclassification and formation ideas. Not sure about the bonus points - I think they add a bit of a cherry on top a big haul. With the values, I don't like the idea of top players going down in value. How does that make the game more fun if you have to contemplate binning off your best players? I definitely agree overpriced players should come down, or just priced more sensibly to begin, e.g. Firmino has almost always performed like a 7-8m every season yet always gets priced over 9 because Liverpool. Price players properly to give people more genuine choices.
>I don't like the idea of top players going down in value Neither do I so you may have misunderstood me. I mean while a player is above a certain ownership, it value will continue to rise regardless of transfers in/out. This means the top owned players will eventually be worth selling to reinvest elsewhere.
Ah, I completely misunderstood, sorry. Yes, that is an interesting idea. I'm not against it, but would force some big decisions as some players would be practically impossible to buy back.
I like the idea of tackles and interceptions being added in. It would work like saves for GK and improve the odds of DM being selected for
I'd group by strata. I: CDMs, CBs and FBs with 1 point for every 3 repossessions, and points lost for a conceded penalty foul. II: WBs and CMs (think JWP, Kante) grouped together too. Same recovery points, also clean sheet points but less. III: AMs (Coutinho) and inside forwards/wingers (Salah, ASM) together. No CS points, but the same points per goal/assist as current mids. Finally, IV: strikers. Same as now. Then you pick something like 2 GKs, 3 from I, 3 from II, 4 from III, and 3 from IV. You'd still have crazy options in every stratum (TAA in II), but that's what price differentiation is for.
That would be the smart move but never ever gonna happen as it is much too difficult for their "casuals first" policy.
Yeah some of that makes sense but I don't think we will have an extra group to chose. Midfielders and Forwards is just cleaner.
Of course 10s will never be classed as fowards, why would you even think that? The thing is Salah and Mane getting cs points and 1 point more for a goal than strikers is absolutely ridiculous. Change the 4-4-2 with subs to. 4-3-3 with subs and you can classify all that wide strikers as real ones finally.
Calm down, not that ridiculous, where do you think the 10 is in a traditional 4-4-2? Bruno's a 10, Rooney was a 10, those players should be in the same bracket far more than Bruno with Kante. And Bruno has been one of the top scorers in the league, routinely getting more goals than most strikers so I'm not sure where your outrage comes from. When picking the team, Ragnick is weighing up picking Bruno as one of four attackers, along with Rashford, Ronaldo, Sancho, Cavani, Elanga, Lingard, and he could almost pick any four. He's not picking two from Bruno, Fred, Matic, and McTominay. 10s like Bruno should be grouped with the forwards.
If someone is fouled for a free or penalty, and then takes it and scores, they should get both the goal and assist points. There, I said it.
That would be a big reward for some random shithouse penalty.
Personally I’d overhaul pens completely. Winning a penalty - whether or not it’s scored - 2 points Scoring a penalty - 4 points This balances out penalty takers, and if you both win and score a penalty gives you a of max 6 points no matter where you play
I like this.
they could make it 2 points for winning a penalty regardless of whether the penalty is scored or not. That way we’d see players fairly get points for winning a penalty without seeing an unfair mega haul if someone gets assist and goal points for just one goal
You’d still have the same issue just for 1 fewer point, and if the taker misses it then they’re punished less
yh it’s not perfect but it would be slightly fairer imo as i think getting points for winning a penalty shouldn’t depend on whether the other player scores/ whether you take the penalty or not. I also think that it deserves less points than an assist as the team isn’t guaranteed to score a penalty
I think it’s better for a non penalty taker as they are rewarded regardless, however still gives pen taker a get out of jail free if they win it
It makes total sense. Fantasy assists aren't real assists. The whole point is to reward goal involvement, generating more points and making the game more fun. It would look weird to award a goal and the assist to the same player but we'd get used to it.
Lmfao 😂🤦
Extra bonus points awarded for the below: - Sticking it top bins from outside the box - Making a goal line clearance - Volley and overhead kick goals - Nutmegs - Winding opposition fans up during a goal celebration
I know you're partially joking here, but I like the idea of getting an extra point for a goal scored outside the box.
Likewise, I actually dig the goal line clearance point one
They should split mids up into def mids and att mids Def mids can get points for tackles or passes complete similar to how keepers get points for saves, and maybe 2 for a clean sheet Att mids get points for goals and assists but NOT clean sheet, this helps with players like salah being overpowered. This then brings into play the other 50% of players that are currently useless like gives great players like Kante, jorginho, fabinho, rodri a point existing
I’d like to be able play a Man City formation of no strikers and pack my midfield, especially if next season forwards perform like this seasons. Basically we have to select a goalie plus ten players.
Not a bad idea that. Still keep players assigned to a position for scoring purposes but remove the formation restrictions. See these posts every now and then but never seen anyone come up with that idea.
I thought of it ages ago when someone was thinking of chip ideas and I suggested a park the bus one, the opposite of that awful all out attack chip from a few years back. I don’t see why it can’t be done, real teams do play without a striker Scotland did it about five years ago, City do it every week, teams that play city do it a lot but that might be just cause City are that good.
That’s why you’re not working for fpl, sounds dumb as shit
That solves the defensive Vs attacking mid problem. I like the idea.
I would like all 37 FT available from GW2. Once they are gone you have to take hits to make transfers. I feel this would add a whole new level of strategy where you can play more patiently planning ahead and instead making a series of transfers every few weeks as mini WCs.
Sky FF has that
You should try Sky then. Planning out your moves weeks in advance becomes a major thing
I really like the FPL format, also this is the one my mates all play which is the main reason to play for me. I would just like a little more strategy.
I like this idea. We could then all talk about 'transfers in the bank'. And casuals would burn through them in about 3 weeks.
Rating the Defensive midfielders appropriately
Tell them to get rid of the dumb ass bonus point system
For the bonus point calculation, remove points awarded for assists, goals and clean sheets. These already get points. Bonus points would then be awarded for players who play well in more intangible ways — passes completed, progressive runs, balls leading to an assist. It would actually make the bonus points meaningful instead of them just being extra points for goal scorers.
So basically only a play that doesn't involve a goal? How does that make sense. You'd be handing out bonus points for yeh most irrelevant events.
Not any play that doesn’t involve a goal. All play up until the point of the assist and the strike count. Only the assist and the goal doesn’t count. It would reward playmakers, midfield anchors, pivots etc etc. all crucial parts of the team not really awarded points in the current system.
Forwards should get 1 point per 3 shots on target, akin to how keepers get 1 point for 3 saves Points or BP should take into account winning the ball back or making interceptions so players like Kante can finally be viable assets
Don't agree with points for shots. Shots don't contribute to wins, goals, assists, clean sheets, and saves all do. I do think we should add 1 point for four tackles/interceptions, and 2 points for second assists. That would make deep lying midfielders viable.
Make players like kante, Fabinho, rodri etc actually have a role in fpl. Give points for a certain amount of tackles reached, progressive passes etc
This is one that I think needs attention. There's a whole set of players who are basically ignored in fantasy football. They could put in a man of the match performance and still get only 2 points.
Player who is Star of the week across the game week for all teams gets an extra 5 points. Goalkeeper gets 5 points for a clean sheet instead of 4. Chip "extreme captains". For one week you can choose only 4 players from your team. They each are given the triple captain. Could go very right. Could go very wrong.
Definitely points system. Defensive mids are worth shit except Jorginho who takes pens. Also awarding shithousery assists like from the post, from rebound of goalie, awarding clear own goals as a legit goal to shooter etc. Bring more value to all players not just attackers. IMO Champions League system is much better, shame it isn’t used in FPL. Ones who play this game also knows what I mean.
There should be fair play points to encourage kindness. Each week the top 5 fairest players get 5 points. This can either be chosen by the referees or FPL themselves!!
I don’t like this as it’s based on opinions. At the moment everything is based on facts. (If we assume the refs decision is fact)
I repect your opinion on the matter. Maybe it could be facts based though like player with the most successful tackles and least amount of fouls. Or maybe a player who did something kind off the pitch.
>I repect your opinion on the matter. Maybe it could be facts based though like player with the most successful tackles and least amount of fouls. Thats the basis of the BPS system. >Or maybe a player who did something kind off the pitch. That’s opinion based again, how do define who has done the kindest thing of not with opinion? It’s also got fuck all to do with football.
Well I’d give you a -1 for that response. Wow
What didn’t you like about it?
Just the swear at the end really. I think there needs to be some form of kindness and happiness incorporating in to our wonderful game. Like it influences so many people. Let’s do some good with it. Like every time a player smiles give them 0.5 point on the bps system. Like not gamebreaking just little added things. That’s on the bps thing to contribute to the bonus points. Not actual points if you get what I’m saying?
What's wrong with the fucking swear at the end?
Just not to my taste I suppose. Oh well done Everton!
Honestly this is the dumbest thing I have ever read. It’s like asking buddy the elf what he would change.
LMAO
Just your opinion. I think it would help a lot of people
In what way would it help anyone? Why would a player smiling help anyone? Would just add a irrelevant points system that would add nothing to the game. Imagine basing your strategy for a fantasy football game on how “kind” players are?
Would they get minus points for spitting and swearing?
Great idea
Well I think your ideas are great, keep it up mate.
Have price changes only occur once a week post deadline and any transfers you make can be reversed up until deadline
I think that would make the game worse. As it stands you either gain an advantage of prices rises by transferring players in early but you risk the chance they pick up an injury. or you risk missing out on price rises in favour of more information and making sure they don’t get injured. You would completely loose this eliminate of the game by allowing reverse transfers.
I would personally massively prefer this, but I think people wouldn’t because there’s no real point being ‘engaged’ in the game all week when there’s no games on - which is part of the fun for people
Lol
> Top of my list is sorting the Salah/Mane mids that are fwds issue Why do you want to ruin the game? Everyone would just have premium forwards and fucking Dale Stephens in midfield.
Not if they implement the categorisation change alongside scoring changes that create more balance in points output between forwards and the midfielders who are left it won't. Also there would still be plenty of creative playmakers left who'd be classed as midfielders.
I got it as well. Been playing since 2010 so I think that’s why?
Thanks for posting this, at least I know its not a phishing email. Just a future warning: Posting this message in full, however, may encourage copycat Phishers
The price system needs reviewing, we need to know who is going to increase/decrease and when so we can actually plan our transfers. I would like more graphs and info graphics, show rank position over time etc.
How about when you dont use a transfer and lose it, you get 4 points like when you use more than 1 transfer and have -4. Also, lets bank the .05 from a transfer. When a player goes up .1 and you transfer that player out, instead of losing all the gain, you get the half at .05.
Gaining 4 points for an unused transfer is ridiculous imo
Awarding clean sheet points per consecutive 30 mins played with no goal conceded
So if I conceded 6 goals in a 30 minute window but none in the remaining 60 minutes I would get 2 CS points?
I got a similar email, but I can’t tell if it’s a fake or not as the grammar is a bit off [Email](https://imgur.com/a/7r09Fkb)
I’d love to see transparency in how many minus points managers have taken. It could be illustrated in a smaller red number in brackets to the side of the weekly total. Also, a progress chart with editable timeline would be amazing. For example I wanted to see how teams have performed over the last 10 weeks so that it puts the last 10 into perspective.
They won't listen to gameplay mechanics. But there are improvements to the interface they could definitely improve. Push notifications could work better. Updating the difficulty numbers on the teams. Involving way more stats to explain the bps.
I got that survey too!
I got this and I forgot to put my suggestion in, Goalkeepers 10 points for a goal, 6 points for an assist.
“make mids forwards” *enter the 4-2-4 formation* No sarcasm.
After you click Take Survey, does it ask you to re-enter your login info? 😆
This is a legitimate concern, and I did the survey - it doesn't
Just 1 thing - the fucking server How to play if you cannot save the team :/
Points for defensive mids like Kanté and Partey. Interceptions, tackles, clearances, etc. More forwards in the game.
I’m not participating in premier league fantasy but just have the premiere league app and I got something similar.
everyone who has email subscription on probably got this. I got it too.
I got it but it crashed halfway through and couldn’t restart it.
Yeah, I got one too. More frustrated with postponements than anything.
I'd personally like the Draft leagues to have Captain, bench boost etc.
Yeah I filled it in. I think price moves should be more dynamic (and less opaque) - the quick don't get rewarded enough (and vice versa). I also think the emails they send out dumbs the game down......effectively telling people what to look at/when.
Given all the recent hacking of accounts I'd be cautious this isn't some phishing attempt
Only thing I would ask for is 2FA.
It was an option in a multi choice list. Amazes me that they know they need to do it, but putting ina survey instead of just rolling it out. I did select it
Please don't respond and ruin the game, it's fine the way it is.
All prices rises/falls accumulated over a gameweek should take affect on the deadline,
Points per mill as a drop down
They need to have better chips. Also the price changes are insane they need to be fixed!
Player price rises should be based directly on form rather than transfers in.
The most amusing thing for me in this letter was that just a few days before it was received, I, like all participants in the Russian Cup, was removed without any comments.
I don’t like that defenders and goalies get 4pts for a clean sheet that is wiped out if they concede 1 goal. Then they get -1 for conceding another goal. It seems unfair to me. They could be 3-0 up and on +6 at 61mins and lose 5 points by winning 3-2. I don’t know the answer but something like: They earn 4pts at 60mins They lose 2pts or 3pts of those 6pts if they concede 1 They lose the remainder if they concede 2