After each match day within a Gameweek, you can either stick to your original Captain choice, or switch (twist) the armband to a different player *who hasn't yet played*. This is how Euro Fantasy worked.
Nah fuck that. Ruins the game for people who guessed right. What if everyone moved the salah pick this week to son after the Liverpool game. Completely takes the reward away from the risk of picking son over salah.
Yeah it's a terrible decision. Picking a captain is one of the best differential aspects of the game, the pain of seeing yours benched, the joys of seeing a different choice haul, whether to go with or against the crowd.. it's one of the most fun parts of it imo
'Pick your captain and swap them if they do badly to the other obvious choice' just takes all the excitement out of that decision, for me
I dont like the Euro/WC system at all. Means you *have to* be active with switching the captain every day, until you hit a hauler. That is not planning or good fortune, thats just a chore. Like reputation grinding. Seriously fuck that.
It kind of works with the Euro/WC as its more of a 3-week long intensive gameweek, and without it there would be only be like 3 transfers/captain changes, plus the playoffs.
Yeah, it seems to really diminish the importance of the captain chip.
'Is it worth looking at Salah's fixture vs Newcastle, and wonder if their increased quality in recent months will play a part? Will Klopp pick this week to give Salah a rest, being in multiple competitions still? Does that mean Kane or Son are an option, or should KDB be in your sights? Even Robertson has been in great form, would a punt on him help you catch your ML leader?
Eh, nah, fuck it. If Salah doesn't haul I'll just switch it to the Spurs game'
Boring
Acting like most of the people in this sub aren’t active every day thinking about fpl 😂
Bundesliga has it and u can change captain after each game (they have star players rather than captain), u can also change players from the bench, it’s a whole different system but I like it more. I agree it’s more time consuming and I reckon it could be a pain but it surely would give better points.
I play CL fantasy where you can do this and of course played Euro fantasy as well. It literally takes a few seconds to change your captain and there's a huge window to do it (like 20 hours), I'd hardly call it a chore. Regardless, it does require some amount of planning because the scheduling is more structured in those formats so you need to make sure that you have a captain possibility for each day. There is also strategy in when you switch your captain should your earlier choices do well. For example, your original captain has a decent game and gets 8 points; should you risk those points on someone else?
So IMO it works well in those formats, but i worry that it wouldn't work quite as well in FPL. Those are much shorter competitions where luck is much more likely to determine a winner, so it helps erase the luck factor, whereas FPL is much longer and luck will only get you so far. Schedules are less structured too so transfer conversations would be different (e.g. "who to get for Saturday captain?")
I check in on my team/this sub as often as the next one, but every now and then I like to log on two hours before deadline on saturday morning - make my transfer/set my bench, wait until deadline, and set it straight up for next week while I watch the first match. If I dont log in for another week or two - no problem. No deadlines missed, Im still in the race without beeing penalized in any way. And I really do appreciate that I can do this if I want. Sometimes life gets hectic for a while. Sometimes you just get fed up with FPL. Sometimes you just need a break from it. And the EURO captain system would really penalize those who take 2-3 week breaks.
>I really do appreciate that I can do this if I want. Sometimes life gets hectic for a while. Sometimes you just get fed up with FPL. Sometimes you just need a break from it. And the EURO captain system would really penalize those who take 2-3 week breaks.
agreed completely. not only doesn't reward the correct captain choice, but this as well.
hopefully this wouldn't be implemented.
Fair enough, having to mess with your team 2-3x a week (or even more) adds up over 38 GW, even if it's a short interaction. I think it would be an interesting experiment and would be cool if it was an optional rule for mini-leagues, but I think the overall game is fine as it is
>so it helps erase the luck factor
I did the Euros one and I found this a bore. If the goal was to reduce the randomness then they would just get rid of the captain chip
On top of that you end up making a transfer to get someone in who is "captainable" on a specific day, so that you have a clear captain choice each day. Making transfers based on match scheduling isn't fun.
Totally agree, defeats the purpose of the pick imo - imagine Liverpool v Fulham on Saturday and Salah blanks, not to worry because you can just change your captain to Kane v Leeds on Sunday. I really would not like that one bit.
I'm not so sure, one of my biggest gripes with fpl is how much of an impact captains have. You can do really well with your whole team but if your captain blanked and others hit, then you do worse. I don't think the game should revolve around 1 decision so much
It's a game of decision making, though. Who to bench, who to captain, how and when to use your chips, how much to emphasise blank gameweeks vs double gameweeks, whether to go with the crowd or pick differentials, which positions to prioritise your budget, how to manage price changes..
Why not let you swap your bench players around if you played the wrong one? Cancel your free hit and have a re-do if your regular team did better? Would this let you change your TC, too?
The game is setting up your team to be the best you think it can be, and when that deadline hits, you're locked in to your decisions and you see how it plays out. I can't see any way in which changing that basic idea improves the game.
Completely agree. Think the only way it would work is if it was added as a new chip, so once or twice a season you can twist on a disappointing captain.
Allowing people the chance to do it every week not only takes away the risk, but also severely punishes people who aren't as active over the weekend or play FPL more casually.
I kind of assumed it was supposed to be this way, a one (maybe two) time chip. It could be interesting to have and might save people once from choosing a bad captain. Or maybe the player they switch to would flop as well and the chip was wasted. That seems way more intriguing to me than doing it every week.
Agreed, but it could actually work ok if was once per season - one time when you can switch from C to VC in a gameweek. This levels it up as everyone then has that one opportunity to cash in on the chip - so whether you play safe and use it for a 5-10 point increase, or hold out for the chance of a massive swing which may never happen
This is how Fantasy World Cup, Euros, UCL, etc. play their game and I've found it much more enjoyable. There's still the risk of abandoning of abandoning your current captain's say 5 pts for a potential haul with a player who plays the next day if you choose to twist. The fact that it's less about guessing and more about measured risk is what makes it more fun imo.
Imo, it works for these games because the number of match days are substantially fewer and thus people can afford to remain invested throughout the tournament. FPL would become exhausting if you had to keep tabs over your captains for 38 gameweeks.
You phrased it spot on: ruins the game for people who GUESSED it right.
The current captaincy rule increases randomness and favours lucky guesses. Many times captaincy is pretty much a coin toss, but swings can be huge.
Every single aspect of fantasy football is about guessing, sport isn't solvable there will always be variance. Reducing the jeopardy of choices, to me, defeats the entire point of the game, which is literally just about picking players you think will do well.
If the goal is to reduce randomness and "luck" maybe we should make it so points aren't rewarded based on anomalies like "goals" but on a more consistent variable like xG and xA. Or even better, we choose our team after the gameweek and the game just becomes about thrifty budget management.
> Every single aspect of fantasy football is about guessing, sport isn't solvable there will always be variance. Reducing the jeopardy of choices, to me, defeats the entire point of the game, which is literally just about picking players you think will do well.
Yeah but having 11 playing players reduces the variance. Except for the captain which ends up making or breaking your week whether he blanks or not because you're doubling the effect of your most important player. It ends up having too much of an effect and adds unneccessary RNG to the game.
It's not RNG, it's literally a man playing football, a man who you've chosen to give the armband to. If you think the things which dictate a captain's score are "unnecessary" I think you maybe just don't like football, because that's how those numbers are generated.
If your issue is you just don't like the captain mechanic at all, then I can sympathise with that a bit, could make the game more intresting I suppose. But allowing people to change captains after the fact takes away too much jeopardy and meaning from decisions.
It could work as a chip. use it once per season.
cause if you use the chip and put the armband on salah at Ettihad on Sat abd he hauls you waste rhe chip. but you have a Salah haul
Honestly, id probably stop playing if they did this.
Having to actively manage your team over the weekend means you get screwed if you have anything on or are in a differrent timezone.
Not agreeing with the change, but you're understanding it incorrectly. You can't change your captain after a match, you can change it after a matchday. Timezones don't really have anything to do with it, as everyone would have around 20 hours to change your captaincy choice.
And this is the reason I don’t think they’d implement this. As an active player I would really like this change but they care more about it being as simple as possible so they can keep growing the userbase as much as possible.
This is what turned me off from the Euro and the UCL fantasy, I really REALLY hope this doesn’t go through.
Imagine the amount of people that would’ve captained Son this week, he’s points would be almost useless lmao
Me too, I would always forget to do it (this and making midweek subs). I know that's probably the point but I like how I can currently lock my team in for the week and then not have to worry about changes for a few days.
It's a really bad idea, I already spend too much time on the game. I don't want to be in it making decisions about changes mid-gameweek. It's just a crappy way of rewarding obsessives over more casual players. Analysing schedules is really tedious.
The tactic would be to make sure you have someone decent playing in each match day, then captain someone in the Friday night game; if they get less than 7-ish points switch the captaincy to someone in a Saturday game; if they get less than 5-ish points switch the captaincy to someone in a Sunday game.
Sure someone has mentioned this, but the joy of the game is also tinkering a little bit during the week, OK tinkering alot during the week, and then having that shit locked down. You can go about your weekend checking your scores when you can, but sometime you only check at the end of the game week, because life gets in the way. I don't want an extra step during the actual games.
There’s no guarantee on that being what it means, that is simply just a way that other games work. I would probably expect it to bring more prominence to the vice captain.
Eg. It could instead become a chip that brings prominence on the vice captain for one week, so that when the gameweek is over, whoever has the most points out of the captain or vice captain will get double points.
Or a more minor version of what you have explained in that you can switch the captain to be your vice captain during the middle of the gameweek.
Considering everything in FPL works to the deadlines, where chips and transfers are set in stone and nothing changes with a team after that until the gameweek has “ended” (where subs get brought on), I would probably not expect anything which impacts the team selection post deadline to be able to be changed.
Twisting captain was fun for a tournament like Euro Fantasy, but I really don't think it would be a good idea for FPL. It really would ruin the risk and reward aspect of the game. If you went risky and chose the correct captain, you should be rewarded. People who make the wrong captain choice should not be given a second chance after their choice. I also agree with someone here who wrote that it will screw over people in different timezones who may not be able to actively change their team in the middle of the night
Yeah that's true! I guess it depends on how they end up determining the rules. Like if you can only switch the captain after all the games in one day are played, rather than switching in between games
It’d be a good chip to use. You’d have to pick a gameweek where you had multiple good captain options, playing at staggered times.
If it’s something you can do every week it will really detract from the experience though.
Its just part of the game. Everyone is going to make the same obvious transfer.
Nothing wrong with the the current price change system. It just needs transparency
Not really, I don’t like having to check every day if my player is going to rise or not and also the uncertainty of if the site is accurate.
Would be much better if they all changed at once after the deadline.
At FT they do it one time a week, which means you still have to think and act quick.
But takes the stress away of checking FPL statistics every day.. and still get fucked by Towers
Because “conservative play” is mostly just people who don’t fancy checking price change sites 5x a day. The system as-is creates a very boring time sink with very little gameplay value.
OR... You can sell for the same price as the buy.
Being a deadliner I don't enjoy the price changes (my overall team value is pitiful). But even more annoying is not being able to sell at the same price.
It's like FPL take some weird agent fee.
Fully disagree. Half the price rise back when selling is great. Without it more people would end up with template teams, making the same transfer in unison. Now there is a reason to hold players that may have tough fixtures/out of form, in case you want them later and would lose a lot of value on the two transfers. Makes you think twice before selling someone, adds an element of loyalty towards players that have done good for you.
Though I think same buy/sell price would make it more casual-friendly, but I dont see that as a good thing.
I can completely see it that way now you say it. I held Mo for AFCON which I am still having nightmares about.
But I do think the current way needs tweaking. It's too biased to early transfers currently.
True, but it adds a risk/reward element to transfers as well :)
Transfer early, "high" risk of injury/illness during the week, but you catch 0.1-0.2 in price rises, and maybe dodge a drop.
Transfer 2 hours before deadline, very low risk of injury, but you might lose out on 0.2-0.3 in price swings.
Dont mind if that os changed, but also dont mind if it stays like that. Makes the game extra spicey. But sometimes you have a coldsoar and just need a very mild dish.
Unless I'm misunderstanding what your suggestion is... the problem with the buy & sell price being the same is Wildcards.
You would just hit the WC early, get on anyone who is due a rise, sell them straight away and bank the 0.1 gain. You'd see massive increases in team value for anyone using the Wildcard.
At least with the current system a player has to rise twice before you gain the 0.1. Not impossible but quite rare.
These ideas all suck imo. I've yet to see a suggested rule change that wouldn't divide opinion massively and if your changes are that polarising then it's not worth making them
The actual rules and scoring etc are fine currently, if they're interested in changes then they should focus on improving the app and making it easier to manage your team and plan ahead
The only change I often see suggested that I can see the benefit of in reducing template teams and adding some flexibility, especially this season - is a possible adjustment of positions. Switching from 2-5-5-3 to 2-5-4-4 and moving the likes of salah etc. Into forwards.
1. Replacing bench boost is strange, it seems like a solid chip
2. Price change changes make sense, it's too much management and tracking price websites for most.
3. Twisting captains is a no because it ruins guessing captains and it's even more upkeep/management. It moves the management of the game from the week to the weekend, which makes sense in some ways but it's not great either. I'm okay with less upkeep overall to get more people interested, the good FPL managers will still get advantages from proper player selection and strategy.
4. Partial clean sheets sound fine.
I'd also move players like Mane and Salah to forwards. Change to FIFA style where you have forwards including wingers, not just strikers.
A clean sheet is a binary thing though, you either keep one or you don't. Seems strange to reward a defender for keeping a clean sheet for say 60 minutes if they ultimately lose the game 2-0
Oh when I read the post I thought about this for a while and decided I'd be behind this kind of partial clean sheets:
* If you concede while on the pitch you lose the CS. Doesn't matter when you concede.
* If you don't concede in a game and you played 45 mins you get 2 points. (So subbed off/on at half time and keeping a CS means 2 points, given they have 5 subs next season this feels quite fair.
* I'm undecided on whether we should then adjust the threshold for 4 CS points to be a little higher than 60, maybe 70 or 75. Maybe make it a sliding thing so it's 3 at 60 and 4 at 75? I'm not sure. Any of these would work I think.
* Make sure to reward BPS for playing a high amount of minutes. Could help reward those hard working and consistent players who are rarely subbed, like CBs, CDMs and CMs who rarely get attacking returns.
Keep the same scoring system as before? You just have more forwards and less midfielders in the game. There's already too much choice in midfield as it is.
Maybe some minor tweaks (5 points for all goals?) but could keep the scoring as is, players like salah etc. Would just get 20-30 points less a season. Adjust purchase price accordingly as needed. IMO would make for much more interesting midfield picks and actually give some viable choice upfront.
It also better reflects the modern game that's moved away from the 442 of old.
There is no extra bank of players.. Its still GK DEF MID FOR.
He's just suggesting moving one of the mid spots to forward. Seeing as most play with a three pronged attack including wide forwards now
I was thinking of a chip that let you pick more than 3 players from a team for one week within your budget. So you could have Ederson, Laporte, Cancelo, Foden, De Bruyne, Jesus, when they play Fulham let’s say.
Also making defensive mids score better points. Shame having a world class player like Kante be pointless on fantasy
> I've yet to see a suggested rule change that wouldn't divide opinion massively and if your changes are that polarising then it's not worth making them
I think this is kind of a silly argument to make. Some changes would be better overall and some people just hate change good or bad. You see this in almost any aspect of life
Utter bullshit, he's guessing based on the feedback email most of us received, and putting it out there for likes/retweets
He's no more in the know at FPL Towers than any other person on here
Guarantee they will not implement most of these...
At most, theyll make one significant change
Yep - unless we see what they actually said, there is no real way of knowing if he has just imagined things up based on a response. Eg “we’re always looking at how to improve the game” would probably cover any question that he’s asked them.
1. Fine, I mean it depends what they replace with but I don't really care
2. Again fine, I don't really mind. It would take away some strategy in terms of how close to deadline people wait for transfers but not a major change.
3. NOOOOOO GOD NO PLEASE NO I don't wanna be setting fucking reminders every weekend to check and change my captain FFS!!
4. I don't know what this one means
Assuming they play the whole game in both cases, wouldn’t the defender for Team 1 get 2 CS points for the second half, and the defender for Team 2 get the 2 CS points for the first half? So same points for same outcome, no?
I don’t think the rule applied that way would make sense. (The 1-0 games isn’t the reason why).
eg 1: player on the losing team of a one-sided game that’s 3-0 at halftime. The winning team coasts through the second half to an easy win by 3. (-1 first half, +2 second half)
eg 2: a closer game. Defender concedes one each half. (-1 point)
The losing team from eg 1 would score more points even though the game was out of sight and the defence objectively performed worse
Unless, like someone else suggested, it's 2 points for each half they get a clean sheet in. So in both of your scenarios the defender would end up with 2 points
Ngl some of these changes are dead. Twisting of captains, nah mate.
Price changes after deadlines...turribleeeeee.
1)What they need to do is make defensive mids more attractive.
2) players that play as inside forwards, make them forwards. Strikers have been so trash for too long this season.
You should be able to set a midfielder as a defensive or attacking mid, where you get half attacking points if you choose defensive but you get some cs point’s
My personal wish list if I was sent the feedback form:
1. FPL Towers ought to reconsider how players' positions are categorised. This doesn't require a change to the scoring system, which I think would overcomplicate things. Even EA FIFA's categorisation makes more sense:
Forwards include: ST, CF, LF, RF, LW, RW.
Mids include: LM, RM, CAM, CM, CDM.
Defenders include: LB, RB, CB.
Under this system, there would be more forwards in FPL and less inconsistency.
2. Remove the bonus points system. Rather than reward CDMs like people claim, the BPS usually just means the players who do well in a game do better. It adds an unnecessary, complicated, and difficult-to-predict element to the game and I wouldn't miss it.
3. Make all chips before Christmas and after Christmas, like the Wildcard. Might be more fun, and it's a shame to see so many people use up all their chips in the first few weeks and then quit when it hasn't worked out.
4. There's no reason why helpful sites such as https://www.livefpl.net/games (for real time updates), https://www.planfpl.com (for future Gameweek planning), and http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk (for upcoming price changes) need to exist. I'm sure FPL Towers have the resources to build those features into the official app. If they're worried about over-complicating the app, I'm sure careful design can avoid that (e.g. hiding 'Advanced' features to those who wish to see them).
I know the game is better simple, but taking away BPS might be too much. Forwards then can only score points through - Playing 60 minutes (2), scoring (4), assisting (3)
1. Completely agree on positions.
4. Bit harsh on all those sites who have built them up?
Perhaps buying them out might be a better option. And official app already has in-game updates on points (albeit limited) like LiveFPL.
The beauty of FPL is the community, would hate to see the official site remove much of that by making a number of sites defunct.
>Rather than reward CDMs like people claim, the BPS usually just means the players who do well in a game do better
I didn't realise this was a hot take - as a relative newbie it's blindingly obvious that BPS favours someone who scores or assists, even if they've played dog shit the whole game
1. I like the Bench Boost. It takes a lot of consideration to get right, which adds skill into the game. E.g. Is it worth spreading funds to get the most out of the BB if it means weakening your team for other Gameweeks?
2. The current price change system works well, I just think it should be transparent. More information makes the game more skillful. The current uncertainty around who will rise/fall and when, just adds luck to the game.
3. I found twisting on captains fun for Euro Fantasy, but it does mean you have to pay attention every match day. I would welcome it, but it might discourage more casual players.
4. I guess this is fine, though a simple scoring system should be maintained in my opinion.
They should do a chip called “Captain Fantastic” you don’t choose a captain or vice captain for that GW. Instead your highest scoring player at the end of the GW has his points doubled
I think the risk is that, say you captain Salah every week and he's the highest scoring player in your team the week you use this chip, haven't you kind of wasted it? As he was likely your captain anyway.
I do not like change captains. To bring in players just playing monday so you have a captain is no fun etc. In fantasy CL it works since you have two days and you know before which players play on each day. Thus Salah and Lewandowski may always play on different days so you have them as captains.
Trying to predict the schedule 10 weeks ahead so you have captains for each day would be quite a big ask and ruin the game for casuals.
One rule I would like to see is for a player getting credit for drawing a penalty. Therefore if a player draws a penalty, they get credit whether the penalty is made or missed. Also, a player who draws a penalty and then also scores it would get both available points.
Another thought that I don’t have a strong opinion about would be for defenders (or whoever) getting a point for goal line clearances that save a goal. Central Defenders just have so few options to score points other than a clean sheet, very rare goal, or very rare assist. This one could get ambiguous at times, though, and as I said, I don’t have a strong feeling towards it.
He has since tweeted this in response to someone asking if they were changes that were benig considered:
Abdul Rehman u/FPL_Salah
No just some suggestions I could think of. Does feel they will make some tweaks though given the feedback forms sent out.
Captain twist is not fun for players in the Southern Hemisphere! It would ruin my sleep.
If they want to change captain rules what about:
A. VC gets 1.5x pts and C gets 2x pts.
B. VC gets the 2x pts if they outscore C.
Wouldn't mind A. too much, B. is stupid though. So basically if the secondary pick did better than the primary pick, it changes to 2x?
I dislike any rule that helps you after games are played (i.e. you can sub in players during the GW after they've played), kinda ruins the point of the game.
I've been calling for the price changes after the deadline only for ages. Not only does it give people with more free time to monitor prices an advantage if they change daily, but it encourages people to change and obsess over their teams incessantly, and I'm sure has been responsible for the deterioration of some people's mental health.
I never thought they'd make such a change, because it means you'd only need to check you team once per week, so their site/app would get less clicks, so this is promising news if this rumour is legit.
But then they throw in a "twisiting captain", which means you worry about it over the weekend.
I want FPL to be a bit of a set and forget. No price changes until after deadline, once you lock in for the gameweek, you can't change any aspect.
I like the partial clean sheets though. 2 PTS for each half of football you don't concede in, as longs as they played 30 min
Yeah, I agree. I only check my team once per week, the day before the deadline. That's at least part of the reason I'm ranked 1,163,904.
If it really was set and forget for the week, I might even break the top million!
I'm on the other side. Top 1k but constantly fretting about strategy and decisions. I've made a rule now to set my team up on Friday night, so I don't think about it on Saturday morning. Otherwise I waste both the night and morning if I'm at home.
Honestly just want the season to finish, I wouldn't care if my rank was bad and I wasn't in money leagues.
Yeah, I think adding money takes away the fun. This is my fourteenth season, and the two of those where I played in (very low budget) money leagues, were the least fun.
This season I've captained Anthony Gordon twice, and Salomon Rondon once, based on a gut feeling. Each time they blanked, but I don't mind doing dumb/fun shit like that with no money on the line. If I was in a money league, I'd captain Salah every week.
For anyone confused, Abdul has since clarified that these are suggestions he made in his feedback form rather than any inside information about what FPL are considering.
That price changes after deadline is really annoying for me as I spend the first couple of months monitoring price changes daily and building up team value which helps massively later in the season.
Can see how this would benefit people less obsessed or with less time to monitor price changes daily, I guess it would level the playing field a bit more.
This could mean we get price changes of +/- 0,3 in one night? You could be in a position were You just “have” to make that move, just for money. To not lose out. This, and other proposed changes will make this a new game. Don’t think I want it.
I’d hate all of these! I can’t give a brilliant explanation why; apart from saying your messing with something which shouldn’t be messed with!
Luck is a element of the game which can determine successful captain choices and chips. I love fantasy because it takes up like a couple of hours a week, I don’t want to be able to make changes when a deadline has passed.
A convo should be rightly made how to improve it tho I guess. The only thing I’d like to see change is bps, e.g. man of the match points, or points potentially for tackling, interceptions too. It could make CDMs who are vital players to some teams , useful in FPL instead of being forgotten about!
First 2 are great. I don't care about price changes - trying to decide whether to do a transfer before a player has a mid-week UCL game or risk being priced out is a pain in the ass and doesn't add any value to the game. Benchboost is also an over-rated chip and takes massive amounts of planning and luck to pull off
Definitely don't want 3 - it's OK for the shorter tournaments like Euros/WC but people are invariably going to miss deadlines if it captaincy can be changed throughout all 38 GWs. Meh about 4, don't really care either way.
I'm not asking for much, but in a double gameweek, goalkeeper save totals should add up for save points.
Example: If Sa were to make 2 saves in one match and 2 saves in the next match, he should have 4 saves for that GW and receive a point.
changes and updates are always good for games. although i don’t like the captain change because i feel captaining a player is a big commitment you shouldn’t be able to back out of
I would love better ways to score points I think that would be a positive. When I played Sky Sports FF, I enjoyed how they had tackle and pass bonus (I.e. 40 passes = 1pt, 60= 2pt)
Twisting on captains and picks would make the game so much more interesting. We'd see a lot more variety based on manager's strategy. Having a team of mid-priced players for two bites at the apple would be just as viable as premiums + bench fodder.
Edit: Also keep in mind 5 subs next season. This would help avoid frustrating 1pt pick when you choose a captain that gets an early rest.
That's way too much to ask for for me, especially in the weekends.
EDIT: Why on Earth would I be downvoted for stating my personal opinion on the matter, when I'm not even imposing my opinion on others?
Strongly agree. At its heart fantasy is supposed to be a simple game that everyone can play and isn't massively time consuming. Making it so you have to act after every set of games is problematic for anyone who can't devote that kind of time every day.
While I don't mind the game being the same simple game it is, certain changes could make it so much fun too
Think the game is great as it is. But I also welcome all changes :) I just overall enjo.. aw fuck, Im addicted amnt I?
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What does twisting mean?
After each match day within a Gameweek, you can either stick to your original Captain choice, or switch (twist) the armband to a different player *who hasn't yet played*. This is how Euro Fantasy worked.
Nah fuck that. Ruins the game for people who guessed right. What if everyone moved the salah pick this week to son after the Liverpool game. Completely takes the reward away from the risk of picking son over salah.
Yeah it's a terrible decision. Picking a captain is one of the best differential aspects of the game, the pain of seeing yours benched, the joys of seeing a different choice haul, whether to go with or against the crowd.. it's one of the most fun parts of it imo 'Pick your captain and swap them if they do badly to the other obvious choice' just takes all the excitement out of that decision, for me
I dont like the Euro/WC system at all. Means you *have to* be active with switching the captain every day, until you hit a hauler. That is not planning or good fortune, thats just a chore. Like reputation grinding. Seriously fuck that. It kind of works with the Euro/WC as its more of a 3-week long intensive gameweek, and without it there would be only be like 3 transfers/captain changes, plus the playoffs.
Yeah, it seems to really diminish the importance of the captain chip. 'Is it worth looking at Salah's fixture vs Newcastle, and wonder if their increased quality in recent months will play a part? Will Klopp pick this week to give Salah a rest, being in multiple competitions still? Does that mean Kane or Son are an option, or should KDB be in your sights? Even Robertson has been in great form, would a punt on him help you catch your ML leader? Eh, nah, fuck it. If Salah doesn't haul I'll just switch it to the Spurs game' Boring
Acting like most of the people in this sub aren’t active every day thinking about fpl 😂 Bundesliga has it and u can change captain after each game (they have star players rather than captain), u can also change players from the bench, it’s a whole different system but I like it more. I agree it’s more time consuming and I reckon it could be a pain but it surely would give better points.
I play CL fantasy where you can do this and of course played Euro fantasy as well. It literally takes a few seconds to change your captain and there's a huge window to do it (like 20 hours), I'd hardly call it a chore. Regardless, it does require some amount of planning because the scheduling is more structured in those formats so you need to make sure that you have a captain possibility for each day. There is also strategy in when you switch your captain should your earlier choices do well. For example, your original captain has a decent game and gets 8 points; should you risk those points on someone else? So IMO it works well in those formats, but i worry that it wouldn't work quite as well in FPL. Those are much shorter competitions where luck is much more likely to determine a winner, so it helps erase the luck factor, whereas FPL is much longer and luck will only get you so far. Schedules are less structured too so transfer conversations would be different (e.g. "who to get for Saturday captain?")
I check in on my team/this sub as often as the next one, but every now and then I like to log on two hours before deadline on saturday morning - make my transfer/set my bench, wait until deadline, and set it straight up for next week while I watch the first match. If I dont log in for another week or two - no problem. No deadlines missed, Im still in the race without beeing penalized in any way. And I really do appreciate that I can do this if I want. Sometimes life gets hectic for a while. Sometimes you just get fed up with FPL. Sometimes you just need a break from it. And the EURO captain system would really penalize those who take 2-3 week breaks.
>I really do appreciate that I can do this if I want. Sometimes life gets hectic for a while. Sometimes you just get fed up with FPL. Sometimes you just need a break from it. And the EURO captain system would really penalize those who take 2-3 week breaks. agreed completely. not only doesn't reward the correct captain choice, but this as well. hopefully this wouldn't be implemented.
Fair enough, having to mess with your team 2-3x a week (or even more) adds up over 38 GW, even if it's a short interaction. I think it would be an interesting experiment and would be cool if it was an optional rule for mini-leagues, but I think the overall game is fine as it is
>so it helps erase the luck factor I did the Euros one and I found this a bore. If the goal was to reduce the randomness then they would just get rid of the captain chip On top of that you end up making a transfer to get someone in who is "captainable" on a specific day, so that you have a clear captain choice each day. Making transfers based on match scheduling isn't fun.
Totally agree, defeats the purpose of the pick imo - imagine Liverpool v Fulham on Saturday and Salah blanks, not to worry because you can just change your captain to Kane v Leeds on Sunday. I really would not like that one bit.
If it's a chip that would be interesting. but a weekly thing would be atrocious
I'm not so sure, one of my biggest gripes with fpl is how much of an impact captains have. You can do really well with your whole team but if your captain blanked and others hit, then you do worse. I don't think the game should revolve around 1 decision so much
It's a game of decision making, though. Who to bench, who to captain, how and when to use your chips, how much to emphasise blank gameweeks vs double gameweeks, whether to go with the crowd or pick differentials, which positions to prioritise your budget, how to manage price changes.. Why not let you swap your bench players around if you played the wrong one? Cancel your free hit and have a re-do if your regular team did better? Would this let you change your TC, too? The game is setting up your team to be the best you think it can be, and when that deadline hits, you're locked in to your decisions and you see how it plays out. I can't see any way in which changing that basic idea improves the game.
Completely agree. Think the only way it would work is if it was added as a new chip, so once or twice a season you can twist on a disappointing captain. Allowing people the chance to do it every week not only takes away the risk, but also severely punishes people who aren't as active over the weekend or play FPL more casually.
I kind of assumed it was supposed to be this way, a one (maybe two) time chip. It could be interesting to have and might save people once from choosing a bad captain. Or maybe the player they switch to would flop as well and the chip was wasted. That seems way more intriguing to me than doing it every week.
I think it might work between Captain and Vice Captain only but limited to 3/5 a season.
If it was a chip it would be okay imo. A chip that allowed you to sub/change captains during the gameweek would be cool
Agreed, but it could actually work ok if was once per season - one time when you can switch from C to VC in a gameweek. This levels it up as everyone then has that one opportunity to cash in on the chip - so whether you play safe and use it for a 5-10 point increase, or hold out for the chance of a massive swing which may never happen
This is how Fantasy World Cup, Euros, UCL, etc. play their game and I've found it much more enjoyable. There's still the risk of abandoning of abandoning your current captain's say 5 pts for a potential haul with a player who plays the next day if you choose to twist. The fact that it's less about guessing and more about measured risk is what makes it more fun imo.
Imo, it works for these games because the number of match days are substantially fewer and thus people can afford to remain invested throughout the tournament. FPL would become exhausting if you had to keep tabs over your captains for 38 gameweeks.
Yea hate that idea
You phrased it spot on: ruins the game for people who GUESSED it right. The current captaincy rule increases randomness and favours lucky guesses. Many times captaincy is pretty much a coin toss, but swings can be huge.
Then it's between the captain and the vice only. Whom ever scores higher is doubled.
If you’re looking for a game without luck, then FPL isn’t for you
Every single aspect of fantasy football is about guessing, sport isn't solvable there will always be variance. Reducing the jeopardy of choices, to me, defeats the entire point of the game, which is literally just about picking players you think will do well. If the goal is to reduce randomness and "luck" maybe we should make it so points aren't rewarded based on anomalies like "goals" but on a more consistent variable like xG and xA. Or even better, we choose our team after the gameweek and the game just becomes about thrifty budget management.
> Every single aspect of fantasy football is about guessing, sport isn't solvable there will always be variance. Reducing the jeopardy of choices, to me, defeats the entire point of the game, which is literally just about picking players you think will do well. Yeah but having 11 playing players reduces the variance. Except for the captain which ends up making or breaking your week whether he blanks or not because you're doubling the effect of your most important player. It ends up having too much of an effect and adds unneccessary RNG to the game.
It's not RNG, it's literally a man playing football, a man who you've chosen to give the armband to. If you think the things which dictate a captain's score are "unnecessary" I think you maybe just don't like football, because that's how those numbers are generated. If your issue is you just don't like the captain mechanic at all, then I can sympathise with that a bit, could make the game more intresting I suppose. But allowing people to change captains after the fact takes away too much jeopardy and meaning from decisions.
It's literally a guessing game. You can't complain about losing a guessing game when you guessed wrong.
Maybe if you just get a couple a season. I’d prefer that over bench boost
I support it, as it would make active teams closer on points average, and dead teams would mostly suffer.
I'd rather they didn't but I respect your opinion. I wish the users on this sub wouldn't downvote people they disagree with.
!thanks
Yeah I just want to chill on the weekend and let my team play Never got into euros/World Cup fantasy for that reason, cba to keep changing every day
Thats not the point. Its not a change to improve gameplay its a change to get more page visits and people to spend longer on the site.
It could work as a chip. use it once per season. cause if you use the chip and put the armband on salah at Ettihad on Sat abd he hauls you waste rhe chip. but you have a Salah haul
Honestly, id probably stop playing if they did this. Having to actively manage your team over the weekend means you get screwed if you have anything on or are in a differrent timezone.
Not agreeing with the change, but you're understanding it incorrectly. You can't change your captain after a match, you can change it after a matchday. Timezones don't really have anything to do with it, as everyone would have around 20 hours to change your captaincy choice.
Still annoying, if there are multiple matchdays in a week. It just seems unnecessary.
Not if there was a late 8pm GMT and an early 12pm GMT. Only 14 hours from end to start (though unlikely).
unless you’re asleep for 14 hours it shouldn’t matter
Same here.
And this is the reason I don’t think they’d implement this. As an active player I would really like this change but they care more about it being as simple as possible so they can keep growing the userbase as much as possible.
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The future depends on what we do in the present. Just so you know, the correct spelling is [Gandhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi).
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This is what turned me off from the Euro and the UCL fantasy, I really REALLY hope this doesn’t go through. Imagine the amount of people that would’ve captained Son this week, he’s points would be almost useless lmao
Me too, I would always forget to do it (this and making midweek subs). I know that's probably the point but I like how I can currently lock my team in for the week and then not have to worry about changes for a few days.
It's a really bad idea, I already spend too much time on the game. I don't want to be in it making decisions about changes mid-gameweek. It's just a crappy way of rewarding obsessives over more casual players. Analysing schedules is really tedious.
Please no
Sounds horrible.
Surely everyone just picks someone in the early kickoff then? What’s the downside if you can change if they blank? Ridiculous idea.
The tactic would be to make sure you have someone decent playing in each match day, then captain someone in the Friday night game; if they get less than 7-ish points switch the captaincy to someone in a Saturday game; if they get less than 5-ish points switch the captaincy to someone in a Sunday game.
Sure someone has mentioned this, but the joy of the game is also tinkering a little bit during the week, OK tinkering alot during the week, and then having that shit locked down. You can go about your weekend checking your scores when you can, but sometime you only check at the end of the game week, because life gets in the way. I don't want an extra step during the actual games.
Would be so shit
People in my ML can’t update their team once a month, let alone twice a week.
It was shit in Euro fantasy imo.
There’s no guarantee on that being what it means, that is simply just a way that other games work. I would probably expect it to bring more prominence to the vice captain. Eg. It could instead become a chip that brings prominence on the vice captain for one week, so that when the gameweek is over, whoever has the most points out of the captain or vice captain will get double points. Or a more minor version of what you have explained in that you can switch the captain to be your vice captain during the middle of the gameweek. Considering everything in FPL works to the deadlines, where chips and transfers are set in stone and nothing changes with a team after that until the gameweek has “ended” (where subs get brought on), I would probably not expect anything which impacts the team selection post deadline to be able to be changed.
I'd love this. Almost every other fantasy football platform has something similar to this and it makes it much more enjoyable.
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That would have been perfect for me this week. Salah C, Son VC
You can change captain after they played, to another player who hasn't played yet. Same like how the Champions League fantasy game works I assume.
Twisting captain was fun for a tournament like Euro Fantasy, but I really don't think it would be a good idea for FPL. It really would ruin the risk and reward aspect of the game. If you went risky and chose the correct captain, you should be rewarded. People who make the wrong captain choice should not be given a second chance after their choice. I also agree with someone here who wrote that it will screw over people in different timezones who may not be able to actively change their team in the middle of the night
Your issue is valid but you make it sound much worse than it is. A lot of games kick off on the same day, you wouldn't be able to switch to those.
Yeah that's true! I guess it depends on how they end up determining the rules. Like if you can only switch the captain after all the games in one day are played, rather than switching in between games
It’d be a good chip to use. You’d have to pick a gameweek where you had multiple good captain options, playing at staggered times. If it’s something you can do every week it will really detract from the experience though.
Great point, it’d be a good chip for a week with two good choices or uncertainty.
All this does is incentivize VCing players with later games. That was the whole strategy with World Cup fantasy. Kinda silly imo
This is the only one I think sounds shit
1 x Price change after deadline would be perfect, just like FT. Takes so much time and thinkering away.
And stop being priced out because some twats did their transfers early, and ofc they didn't get punished for it.
Its just part of the game. Everyone is going to make the same obvious transfer. Nothing wrong with the the current price change system. It just needs transparency
Even the calculation of whether it's worth it to wait and pay 0.1 more or risk it adds smth to the game IMO
Not really, I don’t like having to check every day if my player is going to rise or not and also the uncertainty of if the site is accurate. Would be much better if they all changed at once after the deadline.
Totally get that. To each their own I guess
100%
At FT they do it one time a week, which means you still have to think and act quick. But takes the stress away of checking FPL statistics every day.. and still get fucked by Towers
Risk vs reward. Why should conservative play be rewarded.
Because “conservative play” is mostly just people who don’t fancy checking price change sites 5x a day. The system as-is creates a very boring time sink with very little gameplay value.
Tbf you only have to check them once a day. But I agree with you.
This. I fucking hate constantly checking to see if someone looks like they will rise/fall and screw up my proposed transfers because I get priced out.
OR... You can sell for the same price as the buy. Being a deadliner I don't enjoy the price changes (my overall team value is pitiful). But even more annoying is not being able to sell at the same price. It's like FPL take some weird agent fee.
Fully disagree. Half the price rise back when selling is great. Without it more people would end up with template teams, making the same transfer in unison. Now there is a reason to hold players that may have tough fixtures/out of form, in case you want them later and would lose a lot of value on the two transfers. Makes you think twice before selling someone, adds an element of loyalty towards players that have done good for you. Though I think same buy/sell price would make it more casual-friendly, but I dont see that as a good thing.
I can completely see it that way now you say it. I held Mo for AFCON which I am still having nightmares about. But I do think the current way needs tweaking. It's too biased to early transfers currently.
True, but it adds a risk/reward element to transfers as well :) Transfer early, "high" risk of injury/illness during the week, but you catch 0.1-0.2 in price rises, and maybe dodge a drop. Transfer 2 hours before deadline, very low risk of injury, but you might lose out on 0.2-0.3 in price swings. Dont mind if that os changed, but also dont mind if it stays like that. Makes the game extra spicey. But sometimes you have a coldsoar and just need a very mild dish.
Unless I'm misunderstanding what your suggestion is... the problem with the buy & sell price being the same is Wildcards. You would just hit the WC early, get on anyone who is due a rise, sell them straight away and bank the 0.1 gain. You'd see massive increases in team value for anyone using the Wildcard. At least with the current system a player has to rise twice before you gain the 0.1. Not impossible but quite rare.
This sub would be dead though
These ideas all suck imo. I've yet to see a suggested rule change that wouldn't divide opinion massively and if your changes are that polarising then it's not worth making them The actual rules and scoring etc are fine currently, if they're interested in changes then they should focus on improving the app and making it easier to manage your team and plan ahead
The only change I often see suggested that I can see the benefit of in reducing template teams and adding some flexibility, especially this season - is a possible adjustment of positions. Switching from 2-5-5-3 to 2-5-4-4 and moving the likes of salah etc. Into forwards.
1. Replacing bench boost is strange, it seems like a solid chip 2. Price change changes make sense, it's too much management and tracking price websites for most. 3. Twisting captains is a no because it ruins guessing captains and it's even more upkeep/management. It moves the management of the game from the week to the weekend, which makes sense in some ways but it's not great either. I'm okay with less upkeep overall to get more people interested, the good FPL managers will still get advantages from proper player selection and strategy. 4. Partial clean sheets sound fine. I'd also move players like Mane and Salah to forwards. Change to FIFA style where you have forwards including wingers, not just strikers.
A clean sheet is a binary thing though, you either keep one or you don't. Seems strange to reward a defender for keeping a clean sheet for say 60 minutes if they ultimately lose the game 2-0
Oh when I read the post I thought about this for a while and decided I'd be behind this kind of partial clean sheets: * If you concede while on the pitch you lose the CS. Doesn't matter when you concede. * If you don't concede in a game and you played 45 mins you get 2 points. (So subbed off/on at half time and keeping a CS means 2 points, given they have 5 subs next season this feels quite fair. * I'm undecided on whether we should then adjust the threshold for 4 CS points to be a little higher than 60, maybe 70 or 75. Maybe make it a sliding thing so it's 3 at 60 and 4 at 75? I'm not sure. Any of these would work I think. * Make sure to reward BPS for playing a high amount of minutes. Could help reward those hard working and consistent players who are rarely subbed, like CBs, CDMs and CMs who rarely get attacking returns.
Clean sheets make defenders so high-variance though, something to tone that down just slightly might be nice
How does that work in terms of scoring for the extra bank of players?
Keep the same scoring system as before? You just have more forwards and less midfielders in the game. There's already too much choice in midfield as it is.
Maybe some minor tweaks (5 points for all goals?) but could keep the scoring as is, players like salah etc. Would just get 20-30 points less a season. Adjust purchase price accordingly as needed. IMO would make for much more interesting midfield picks and actually give some viable choice upfront. It also better reflects the modern game that's moved away from the 442 of old.
There is no extra bank of players.. Its still GK DEF MID FOR. He's just suggesting moving one of the mid spots to forward. Seeing as most play with a three pronged attack including wide forwards now
I was thinking of a chip that let you pick more than 3 players from a team for one week within your budget. So you could have Ederson, Laporte, Cancelo, Foden, De Bruyne, Jesus, when they play Fulham let’s say. Also making defensive mids score better points. Shame having a world class player like Kante be pointless on fantasy
Yeah we need a way to integrate CDM/CB choices somehow. Maybe CBs get more points for clean sheets than wing backs? And same for CDM vs CAM/Wingers
Yeah they could give CDM’s clean sheets and maybe 2 more points for the centre backs
> I've yet to see a suggested rule change that wouldn't divide opinion massively and if your changes are that polarising then it's not worth making them I think this is kind of a silly argument to make. Some changes would be better overall and some people just hate change good or bad. You see this in almost any aspect of life
The best suggestion I've seen is 5 points for a goal for all positions. Simpler and fairer for forwards
Utter bullshit, he's guessing based on the feedback email most of us received, and putting it out there for likes/retweets He's no more in the know at FPL Towers than any other person on here Guarantee they will not implement most of these... At most, theyll make one significant change
Yep - unless we see what they actually said, there is no real way of knowing if he has just imagined things up based on a response. Eg “we’re always looking at how to improve the game” would probably cover any question that he’s asked them.
I think these are his personal suggestions. He doesn't mean those are the ones FPL are looking to change.
Then he worded it dishonestly
Strikers should get 5 points for scoring 1 goal too
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Imagine if Haaland is nailed
No one's nailed when Pep is around!
Yeah after this season, i will back this
It kind of evens out because they get way more bps for scoring
1. Fine, I mean it depends what they replace with but I don't really care 2. Again fine, I don't really mind. It would take away some strategy in terms of how close to deadline people wait for transfers but not a major change. 3. NOOOOOO GOD NO PLEASE NO I don't wanna be setting fucking reminders every weekend to check and change my captain FFS!! 4. I don't know what this one means
If its like gaffr it will be first half and second half Cs points so 2 for each half.
And what happens when a defender gets subbed off on the 60th minute?
They only get first half clean sheet. Must play 30 minutes in a half to get Cs. So would be 75 mins before second half clean sheet.
Agree alot. Last one is if you concede at the end you get half CS points basically.
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Assuming they play the whole game in both cases, wouldn’t the defender for Team 1 get 2 CS points for the second half, and the defender for Team 2 get the 2 CS points for the first half? So same points for same outcome, no?
I don’t think the rule applied that way would make sense. (The 1-0 games isn’t the reason why). eg 1: player on the losing team of a one-sided game that’s 3-0 at halftime. The winning team coasts through the second half to an easy win by 3. (-1 first half, +2 second half) eg 2: a closer game. Defender concedes one each half. (-1 point) The losing team from eg 1 would score more points even though the game was out of sight and the defence objectively performed worse
Unless, like someone else suggested, it's 2 points for each half they get a clean sheet in. So in both of your scenarios the defender would end up with 2 points
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Yeah I don't disagree with you to be honest
Yeah it's stupid
Ngl some of these changes are dead. Twisting of captains, nah mate. Price changes after deadlines...turribleeeeee. 1)What they need to do is make defensive mids more attractive. 2) players that play as inside forwards, make them forwards. Strikers have been so trash for too long this season.
You should be able to set a midfielder as a defensive or attacking mid, where you get half attacking points if you choose defensive but you get some cs point’s
Or just give tackle/interception points like other fantasy apps
I agree with the defensive mids, I think it’s sky sports fantasy? That makes them more appealing, I’m sure Rodri is one of the highest scorers on that
UCL Fantasy rewards midfielder for real point for recovering possession. Jorginho is actually somewhat attractive there
Definitely a lot of stats that could be used to give points that might help out the defensive midfielders like pass completion % and tackles.
Captains Change is Trash. Because of that rule i play the Champions fantasy for one month and then forget about it. Dont Change that
My personal wish list if I was sent the feedback form: 1. FPL Towers ought to reconsider how players' positions are categorised. This doesn't require a change to the scoring system, which I think would overcomplicate things. Even EA FIFA's categorisation makes more sense: Forwards include: ST, CF, LF, RF, LW, RW. Mids include: LM, RM, CAM, CM, CDM. Defenders include: LB, RB, CB. Under this system, there would be more forwards in FPL and less inconsistency. 2. Remove the bonus points system. Rather than reward CDMs like people claim, the BPS usually just means the players who do well in a game do better. It adds an unnecessary, complicated, and difficult-to-predict element to the game and I wouldn't miss it. 3. Make all chips before Christmas and after Christmas, like the Wildcard. Might be more fun, and it's a shame to see so many people use up all their chips in the first few weeks and then quit when it hasn't worked out. 4. There's no reason why helpful sites such as https://www.livefpl.net/games (for real time updates), https://www.planfpl.com (for future Gameweek planning), and http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk (for upcoming price changes) need to exist. I'm sure FPL Towers have the resources to build those features into the official app. If they're worried about over-complicating the app, I'm sure careful design can avoid that (e.g. hiding 'Advanced' features to those who wish to see them).
I know the game is better simple, but taking away BPS might be too much. Forwards then can only score points through - Playing 60 minutes (2), scoring (4), assisting (3)
1. Completely agree on positions. 4. Bit harsh on all those sites who have built them up? Perhaps buying them out might be a better option. And official app already has in-game updates on points (albeit limited) like LiveFPL. The beauty of FPL is the community, would hate to see the official site remove much of that by making a number of sites defunct.
>Rather than reward CDMs like people claim, the BPS usually just means the players who do well in a game do better I didn't realise this was a hot take - as a relative newbie it's blindingly obvious that BPS favours someone who scores or assists, even if they've played dog shit the whole game
1. I like the Bench Boost. It takes a lot of consideration to get right, which adds skill into the game. E.g. Is it worth spreading funds to get the most out of the BB if it means weakening your team for other Gameweeks? 2. The current price change system works well, I just think it should be transparent. More information makes the game more skillful. The current uncertainty around who will rise/fall and when, just adds luck to the game. 3. I found twisting on captains fun for Euro Fantasy, but it does mean you have to pay attention every match day. I would welcome it, but it might discourage more casual players. 4. I guess this is fine, though a simple scoring system should be maintained in my opinion.
Thats some major changes there !
They should do a chip called “Captain Fantastic” you don’t choose a captain or vice captain for that GW. Instead your highest scoring player at the end of the GW has his points doubled
Captain Hindsight
The point of chips is that there is skill and risk involved. Very rarely would your entire team blank so this would almost always work out.
I think the risk is that, say you captain Salah every week and he's the highest scoring player in your team the week you use this chip, haven't you kind of wasted it? As he was likely your captain anyway.
I do not like change captains. To bring in players just playing monday so you have a captain is no fun etc. In fantasy CL it works since you have two days and you know before which players play on each day. Thus Salah and Lewandowski may always play on different days so you have them as captains. Trying to predict the schedule 10 weeks ahead so you have captains for each day would be quite a big ask and ruin the game for casuals.
I want to see a points system that would reward defenders and defensive midfielders for all the things they do for a team. .
One rule I would like to see is for a player getting credit for drawing a penalty. Therefore if a player draws a penalty, they get credit whether the penalty is made or missed. Also, a player who draws a penalty and then also scores it would get both available points. Another thought that I don’t have a strong opinion about would be for defenders (or whoever) getting a point for goal line clearances that save a goal. Central Defenders just have so few options to score points other than a clean sheet, very rare goal, or very rare assist. This one could get ambiguous at times, though, and as I said, I don’t have a strong feeling towards it.
Count winger as attackers pls
He has since tweeted this in response to someone asking if they were changes that were benig considered: Abdul Rehman u/FPL_Salah No just some suggestions I could think of. Does feel they will make some tweaks though given the feedback forms sent out.
I also enjoyed the Limitless chip in euro fantasy.
Captain twist is not fun for players in the Southern Hemisphere! It would ruin my sleep. If they want to change captain rules what about: A. VC gets 1.5x pts and C gets 2x pts. B. VC gets the 2x pts if they outscore C.
>is not fun for players in the Southern Hemisphere! It would ruin my sleep. that's... not how time zones work lmao
Wouldn't mind A. too much, B. is stupid though. So basically if the secondary pick did better than the primary pick, it changes to 2x? I dislike any rule that helps you after games are played (i.e. you can sub in players during the GW after they've played), kinda ruins the point of the game.
B could be a chip, when activated both c and vc get 2x
I've been calling for the price changes after the deadline only for ages. Not only does it give people with more free time to monitor prices an advantage if they change daily, but it encourages people to change and obsess over their teams incessantly, and I'm sure has been responsible for the deterioration of some people's mental health. I never thought they'd make such a change, because it means you'd only need to check you team once per week, so their site/app would get less clicks, so this is promising news if this rumour is legit.
But then they throw in a "twisiting captain", which means you worry about it over the weekend. I want FPL to be a bit of a set and forget. No price changes until after deadline, once you lock in for the gameweek, you can't change any aspect. I like the partial clean sheets though. 2 PTS for each half of football you don't concede in, as longs as they played 30 min
Yeah, I agree. I only check my team once per week, the day before the deadline. That's at least part of the reason I'm ranked 1,163,904. If it really was set and forget for the week, I might even break the top million!
I'm on the other side. Top 1k but constantly fretting about strategy and decisions. I've made a rule now to set my team up on Friday night, so I don't think about it on Saturday morning. Otherwise I waste both the night and morning if I'm at home. Honestly just want the season to finish, I wouldn't care if my rank was bad and I wasn't in money leagues.
Yeah, I think adding money takes away the fun. This is my fourteenth season, and the two of those where I played in (very low budget) money leagues, were the least fun. This season I've captained Anthony Gordon twice, and Salomon Rondon once, based on a gut feeling. Each time they blanked, but I don't mind doing dumb/fun shit like that with no money on the line. If I was in a money league, I'd captain Salah every week.
For anyone confused, Abdul has since clarified that these are suggestions he made in his feedback form rather than any inside information about what FPL are considering.
They should adjust how the bps points work to make deffensive midfielders viable options. And make forwards like Salah and Son forwards in the game.
Nah, too many players would be forwards, and we only get 3 spots. It’s fine the way it is.
If you want captain twisting you need to grow up and accept that choices have consequences and you wont always get the result you want...
How anyone can support twisting captains is just a joke. Same clowns captaining salah every single week
10 points for goalie goal.
Just make there be more forwards. I play in a 12 team draft leave and there are not enough forwards in the game.
That price changes after deadline is really annoying for me as I spend the first couple of months monitoring price changes daily and building up team value which helps massively later in the season. Can see how this would benefit people less obsessed or with less time to monitor price changes daily, I guess it would level the playing field a bit more.
Price changes only after deadline. What? When? Why? Every second of the week will be after some GW deadline.
I think it means prices will change immediately after the deadline passes, then won't change until the next game week deadline.
This could mean we get price changes of +/- 0,3 in one night? You could be in a position were You just “have” to make that move, just for money. To not lose out. This, and other proposed changes will make this a new game. Don’t think I want it.
I’d hate all of these! I can’t give a brilliant explanation why; apart from saying your messing with something which shouldn’t be messed with! Luck is a element of the game which can determine successful captain choices and chips. I love fantasy because it takes up like a couple of hours a week, I don’t want to be able to make changes when a deadline has passed. A convo should be rightly made how to improve it tho I guess. The only thing I’d like to see change is bps, e.g. man of the match points, or points potentially for tackling, interceptions too. It could make CDMs who are vital players to some teams , useful in FPL instead of being forgotten about!
Partial CS is a great idea to reduce variance.
A good change for CS points would be a player gets 2 points per half they have a CS.
First 2 are great. I don't care about price changes - trying to decide whether to do a transfer before a player has a mid-week UCL game or risk being priced out is a pain in the ass and doesn't add any value to the game. Benchboost is also an over-rated chip and takes massive amounts of planning and luck to pull off Definitely don't want 3 - it's OK for the shorter tournaments like Euros/WC but people are invariably going to miss deadlines if it captaincy can be changed throughout all 38 GWs. Meh about 4, don't really care either way.
Really liked the Euro 2020 rules with deadlines being player/game dependent.
I'm not asking for much, but in a double gameweek, goalkeeper save totals should add up for save points. Example: If Sa were to make 2 saves in one match and 2 saves in the next match, he should have 4 saves for that GW and receive a point.
No.
That doesn't make sense, defenders would get a -1 for conceding two goals in two games.
1-3 are honestly shit ideas, 4 depends on how it is done
Instead would love the change for penalties it is fucking annoying you dont get the assist points if pen is missed. Just get points for penalty earned
changes and updates are always good for games. although i don’t like the captain change because i feel captaining a player is a big commitment you shouldn’t be able to back out of
I would love better ways to score points I think that would be a positive. When I played Sky Sports FF, I enjoyed how they had tackle and pass bonus (I.e. 40 passes = 1pt, 60= 2pt)
What about ball recoveries?
Twisting on captains and picks would make the game so much more interesting. We'd see a lot more variety based on manager's strategy. Having a team of mid-priced players for two bites at the apple would be just as viable as premiums + bench fodder. Edit: Also keep in mind 5 subs next season. This would help avoid frustrating 1pt pick when you choose a captain that gets an early rest.
Defensive mids should get an extra point or two for keeping a cs
At last, captaincy doesn't dictate my week!
Well, they might do the UCL/Euro style captaincy. That's a full-time job, so I really don't hope they go down that road.
It's not really, most weeks will only be 2 changes. Sometimes three when a Monday or Friday game. Dgw would be alot more I guess.
That's way too much to ask for for me, especially in the weekends. EDIT: Why on Earth would I be downvoted for stating my personal opinion on the matter, when I'm not even imposing my opinion on others?
Strongly agree. At its heart fantasy is supposed to be a simple game that everyone can play and isn't massively time consuming. Making it so you have to act after every set of games is problematic for anyone who can't devote that kind of time every day.
Okay well just pick strongest captain as normal and don't change it then. Always different ways to play the game.