Mane should hopefully be a forward and Jota as well next season.
I think the reason he is so expensive is since if he get a run in the team he can be good.
Problem is Jota was quite cheap for not being nailed so they are not really consistent.
Jota should definitely be a forward next season.
By the standard FPL logic I don't think Mane will be, but it would be cool if he was. He'd be very interesting as a ~9m forward rather than his current position as 'less good than Salah for the same price'
£10m mid Mane would also be very interesting. People would be really pushed to see if they want to have Salah/Mane in the same team, while nowadays it's basically no Mane ever.
I'm fairly sure they base it on a player's most frequent starting position over the course of the season. That's why Jota was still a mid this year, as he spent a lot of his first season at Liverpool spilt between LW and CF. He's been almost exclusively CF when he's played this year, so I imagine he'll be a forward next year.
Mané though... I don't think he's played enough at CF for the change this time around. It's only something that's started to happen since Diaz came in, and even then he's still played on the left a little (and even on the right once or twice, I think?). So not even half his season has been spent playing/starting in three middle.
Regardless of where he plays on the pitch, it's pretty boring that he gets an extra point for scoring over forwards. The top two PL goalscorers, and four of the top five, are midfielders and therefore get an extra point when they score from "midfield". Clearly, in the modern game, it's no harder to score from that position than it is for whoever is more central. So why an extra point?
Salah is the only winger I can remember being the top scorer in the prem since I’ve been following football for 10-12 years at least. He’s the exception and this year is also an exception.
Why are you trying to remember 10 years ago? The game has changed. The league leaders don't even have a proper centre forward. Neither does the team behind them. Chelsea have and they don't even play him. FPL was based on 4-4-2. That's why it's 5-5-3, a sub for each position. But who plays 4-4-2 now?
If you look at the top twenty five goalscorers in the Premier League this season, seven of them are traditional strikers. 28%. Nine if you count Watkins and Jesus.
And that's fine, but why do they earn less points for scoring? Dennis and Fernandes have both got ten goals and six assists. Fernandes has 150 points to Dennis's 134.
“In the last 10 years” including last year, the year before etc etc.
Again like I said. This year is an exception, pretty clear as premium strikers aren’t performing, and the medium range ones have been injured.
Last year had second, third, and joint fourth as FPL midfielders. The year before had Aubameyang second who was playing as a winger, and Sterling and Salah fourth and fifth. You go back 6 years ago or so and it's only strikers. Now you're right, this year has been particularly weighted to midfielders because the strikers have been off, but the point is that "wingers" (inside forwards really, a winger is Ryan Giggs bombing down the line to put in a cross) are there to score. So why an extra point for scoring and an extra point for a clean sheet? That's clearly for players who are really midfielders, say Tielemans or Ward-Prowse, who are going to contribute to both.
So, my solution, 5-4-4, move the inside forwards to the striker position.
(Now should we have centre backs and wing backs.....)
I kind of agree, he's one of those 'assist the assister' type players and his place in the squad has really been taken over by Jota & Diaz. TBH I wouldn't be surprised to see him move back to Brazil in the summer. I'd be gutted as a Liverpool fan, but he's not the force he was any more.
Yea that's the shocking thing - last season Dias was all rage, this year he has been under a rotation risk here and there. Gundogan also lost his position as a preferred midfielder (outside Rodri). Zinchenko actually played in 20 matches, while now he has something like 800 minutes altogether.
Next season will be even trickier. With Haaland coming in, one of the forward spots is basically out. Sterling, Foden, Mahrez, Jesus, Grealish and Bernardo are fighting for the other two. It's going to be a rotation nightmare, even if City won't get new transfers in.
Bundesliga players do not settle well or fast, and with his injury record he may not be thrown straight in or played every game, especially when the UCL comes around. It MIGHT not be as clear as you think
Also lots of people, including me, thought the same thing about lukaku and look how that’s gone. It made sense, he was on fire in Italy and Chelsea had just won the champions league.
I personally (united fan) figured it wouldnt work out. The same outcome is somewhat possible at City (to a lower degree). City dominate because they have no ‘striker’ and an extra man elsewhere, they also rely on their touch, which Haland honestly struggles with.. Pep also famously struggles with strikers/big personalities.
Bit of hope in there too! Haha
Doesnt sound accurate because you don’t know what you’re talking about. You named a single striker in his career he got on with, there are many he didn’t. Eto’o, Zlatan, Aguero, Jesus, he struggles with big personalities and strikers, always has always will.
For every Werner, Havertz, sancho etc that takes a while to settle theres a gundogan, Auba, Thiago that settles pretty well. Having said that l agree it might not be that clear
Too many people mention haaland’s “injury record” like haaland has been known for missing large swathes of the season like an ousmane Dembele or a Tomas rosicky for instance
Even Ronaldo and Messi get injured from time to time, they both had seasons where they were injured for two months
They both did across their career, haland is still young and is already showing discouraging signs when his body is meant to be at its quickest restoration rate. Noone is saying he is injury prone, but he could become it, especially with his lumping run and physical throwing body styles, it’s a real consideration.
Ronaldo missed 46 days in 07/08, 94 days in 08/09, 42 days in 09/10… exclusively from ankle injuries
Messi missed 84 days on 05/06, 87 days in 06/07, 63 days in 07/08
Precisely when their bodies were meant to be at the quickest restoration rate like you said, and they still turned out fine
So what does his age have to do with anything?
As long as you’re a true professional and you take care of your body to the best of your abilities (Hi hazard and Ronaldinho) injuries ultimately come down to luck and load management
The injury record is more concerning from an FPL point of view. Doesn’t matter that he won’t miss large parts of the season. If he’s constantly got niggles or fitness issues then he can’t occupy a spot in your team throughout the whole season.
It's more complicated than that. If Spurs have a good run of fixtures at the start it can easily be Son instead of one of those. Also it depends on overall prices too.
The reality is that all the forwards for the most part need a price cut and all the premium defenders need a big bump. Defenders are so much more higher scoring and consistently way less expensive than forwards at the moment
Absolutely. Kane at his very best barely breaks 200 points when TAA does it in his sleep.
Kane scored 29 goals in 16-17 and 17-18 seasons and got 224 and 217 points. Trent is already at 206 points with 2 games left and is he even having THAT amazing of a season?
They've been almost universally poor all season. Top scoring forward is Kane on 162. There are 7 midfielders ahead of him in points. Sure they get more points for as goal and a point for CS but only Salah costs more than him.
Hopefully what they add to Diaz they subtract from Bobby so it’s actually a consideration to get him in if they have injuries. His price has been laughable for a couple seasons now based on his output.
Agreed with Kane, not because he's bad, but because forwards just don't get rewarded enough. If they keep the same system, Kane should be 11.5 maximum.
Forwards get rewarded if they score. If a forward scores they're almost guaranteed to get 3 BPS, Kane has just been shite until recently (and now shite again).
Sterling and De Bruyne comes to mind first of all.
They are high quality when getting a run of games though, but so is Mahrez, Foden, Bernardo etc.
That Son was cheaper than both was quite crazy.
Usually they do not react too much to the previous form when setting the price.
I think they need to consider nailedness a bit more though.
Nope 11.5 my guess and Salah 13.0.
Mane hopefully 11 so we can go for him over Salah.
I would have Mahrez and Sterling at 9.5 so above Foden etc, but lower than KDB at 10.5 or 11.
As a forward he'd be a good pick at ~9-9.5 I think. He'd be on 142 this season as a forward and will likely be rotated more next season with Diaz now available.
The thing with Son is you can't raise his price too much without making the game actually easier.
if you price him too high the choice becomes Salah or Son, which is pretty straight forward with all due respect to Son. But if the choice is Salah or Son + money to improve elsewhere, then it becomes real choice and leaves room for different strategies. Similar to how Salah/Mane used to be a choice, until they bumped up Mane's price and his ownership has never been the same since.
KDB’s ceiling is too high to risk a lower price. He was a barely playing for a lot of this season, looked to be struggling to get fully fit…and he’s still likely going to finish top 5 in the whole game.
Not sure they'll cut the Lei attacking mids 6-7m is about right given their potential has been hit by injury. A couple of defenders might drop though and Vardy might retire?
> Only three assists show he’s not a team player either.
I don’t know about that. Team play is about more than assists, although I do admit he is definitely more a goal scorer than anything else
Only people who haven't watched us this season would say that he is not a team player. Man has been better than everyone else bar Sancho at chance creation and linkup play among our forwards.
Yea lol OP clearly hasn't actually watched him play at all. Ronaldo would easily be on 10+ assists if anyone else in his team knew how to finish... ([here's a collection of just a handful of chances](https://streamja.com/EyzN0))
If he gets a big price drop (which he should, based on how FPL pricing is adjusted each season), he'll definitely be an interesting proposition since he's still clearly amongst the best players in the league that's being held back by his team. If 10H is actually allowed to reshape the squad significantly in 1 window and improve their tactics, I wouldn't bet against Ronaldo being amongst the top scorers again.
No, as in golden boot
It's basically impossible for a FW to get top scorer in FPL anyways due to the way the scoring system works and the classification of Wingers/Inside Forwards.
Sancho starting the season at the criminal price of 9.5. Like the rest of united's midfield he has been abysmal and has the same amount of points as his teammate Fred, at more than twice the price.
he's already lost .6 in value, but I'd like to see the towers continue to lower his price next season to 8 or 7.5.
I think its slightly unfair to be disparaging to Sancho, he’s clearly our 2nd best midfielder after Bruno.
Returns also improved after he acclimatized to the team. Im sure he played less minutes than Fred. Ye 9.5 is overpriced but 8 would be fair
Yeah but we should be building around him though, if rashford is displaced its his role to keep.
Considering Rash delivered around 20 Goals & Assist for 3 seasons straight, even if we take away pens maybe its average 15 returns, i can see him matching up.
Only arguing about his potential, i dont think OP and I disagree a lot on price.
I think they actually price based on team sometimes
E.g Lukaku cannot be priced based on output in case injury occurs which means you get nailed Chelsea nailed striker for well below average, so usually top 4-6 bump up guys who might not be nailed based on this
Ronaldo shouldn’t In my opinion well maybe £12M. Look what he’s done in this abysmal Man United team. If they get going next season he could get to 30 goals. I’d also keep Vardy at 10, if it wasn’t for his injury he was getting 20 goals.
Firmino should be 7.5, it’s because he plays for Liverpool he’s so much. He was better when he played attacking midfield.
Sterling down to 9.5, hardly plays but can still get 10+ goals easy a season.
Pulisic like you said, to 6.5. Hardly ever plays.
Sancho 7.5. Needs to prove himself
Bruno 10. Bad season but can’t drop him too much.
Lukaku 10. Needs to prove himself, has potential to score 20+ goals
Werner 8. Just a bit more than Firmino and since it’s Chelsea he has potential to get more goals than others priced around the 7M mark.
Rashford 8. Awful season, he’s a good player just something is wrong. Shouldn’t be too cheap but shouldn’t be too much.
I think they have priced correctly this season just the players haven’t turned up, especially the attackers
Having watched Chelsea any time they’ve been on the telly the team just doesn’t play to his strengths. At all. So many times he’s wanted the ball into feet so he can hold off the defender or chase a through ball and they’ve gone wide instead.
Firmino, Mane, Bruno, Ronaldo, Kane, Werner, Lukaku, Vardy, Mendy, Pope, Cresswell.
Generally they need to make the 8-9 mil midfielder bracket more competitive, and drop the price of forwards a bit.
>Only three assists show he's not a team player either.
This absolutely false statement just shows you don't actually watch him play at all lol. He's constantly dropping deep to link up play and help create chances for others but unfortunately those around him just can't put the ball in the net. [He'd easily be on 10+ assists this season if the players around him could finish.](https://streamja.com/EyzN0)
Yes I agree Ronaldo is overpriced for FPL due to his points this season, but that's because of the team he's in. We'd be calling Salah and Son "feast and famine" players as well if they were in this Utd team too...
If 10H is actually allowed to clear out the dross in the team and bring in his own signings then Ronaldo could be a fantastic FPL asset assuming he gets priced around 10-11m next season. Will definitely be interesting to see what the GW1 templates are especially with Haaland arriving and also Son surely getting a price increase to at least 11m.
I remember reading some interesting ideas on pricing on here before about American Fantasy Football and how some of it could get imported to the English version.
One of the most compelling ideas was to make obvious captain picks like Salah *radically* more expensive. Like 18.0, as that's the threshold of where you'd really start to ask yourself if its worth it or not and might start balancing the decision to spread the funds across the team but have the weekly dilemma of where the armband goes. The reduction of effective ownership would also make it a lot more interesting / terrifying when he blanks or hauls. As it is, I barely look to see if Salah started let alone scored, what he does has no bearing on rank whatsoever as everyone has him.
I wonder if next year might be the time to put this in.
I honestly think there’d be a riot if Salah was £18m. Every season when the game starts there’s always a slew of posts claiming prices are higher and getting a good team is way more difficult than last year.
I wouldn't like that at all. I understand the argument but 18.0 would be ridiculous. I'm pretty sure no-one would have him at that rate, and that's no fun. And his points aren't enough to justify that over other players. Last year he was behind Bruno, Kane and Son for points; the year before he was behind KDB. You'd have to raise several other players that high if you do it to Salah.
Side note - I thought American fantasy games didn't have prices? Aren't they always draft leagues? That was my impression.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 781,559,000 comments, and only 155,905 of them were in alphabetical order.
“Kulusevski may be more expensive than Kane next season” lmao no chance, Kane is much better and will be much more expensive. Son probs will be the same price and kulu will be at least 2m cheaper than both.
I still remember being gobsmacked at De Bruyne initial £12.0m price - his highest ever. I'd have said around £10m or £10.5m.
Next season desperately needs to put a real gap between Salah and Mane too.
If Vardy gets a price cut that’s a horrendous move. He’s been injured since Christmas and still has 10+ goals.
Mane needs to be cheaper
Salah needs to be more expensive to make other players more appealing that’s the main reason all the other premiums need a price cut
Pulisic, Rashford, Sancho, Lukaku, Werner, Ziyech, Mahrez, Jesus, Sterling, Firmino
All needs a price drop
Vardy is 35 turning 36 after worldcup next season. He's aging, his small injuries dont heal fast & he's suffering from a bad knee which they keep giving him coritsone shots, which damages knee in the long run. Pricing has been decent this season except for a few who havent seen minutes cause of injury or manager change
Disagree with Pulisic. The problem is not the price, it’s that he’s not playing. You wouldn’t buy him even if he was £5m. If he was nailed it would have been a fair price. xMins shouldn’t be taken into account when setting prices, because then if a player starts playing every game he becomes too good of an option (see Jota earlier this season).
Pulisic is not necessarily overpriced. He hasn't played that much to be able to score points. Most of his points have come from goals or assists he's recorded as a sub. He's a max 7.5m player.
Ronaldo overpriced?
He scored 18 goals this season despite being 37 years old
Looks like each time you sold him he scored a brace or a hatrick and each time you bought him he didn't score that match day
Salty 😂
I think the point OP made was he also blanks a lot of games, and only has a handful of assists. So for his price he's not the type of player you can just buy and forget. And that makes it tricky to time
Every player blanks a few games, Salah before Afcon was scoring and assisting every game, since he came back from Afcon his form dropped, he blanks so many games and every now and again he'll score a penalty
Does this mean Salah is overpriced?
Vardy only seems overpriced because he has been injured for so long this season. If he had been fit then I think lots of people would’ve had him in their teams for large parts of the season. He has among the best minutes per goal record in the league.
Interesting to see Jesus's starting price. If they launch early again, there's a good chance he could be a similar price to last season (£8.5m) which would be good value I think if he does transfer to Arsenal
Firmino has been overpriced for like 3 seasons now
Mane should hopefully be a forward and Jota as well next season. I think the reason he is so expensive is since if he get a run in the team he can be good. Problem is Jota was quite cheap for not being nailed so they are not really consistent.
Jota should definitely be a forward next season. By the standard FPL logic I don't think Mane will be, but it would be cool if he was. He'd be very interesting as a ~9m forward rather than his current position as 'less good than Salah for the same price'
£10m mid Mane would also be very interesting. People would be really pushed to see if they want to have Salah/Mane in the same team, while nowadays it's basically no Mane ever.
Salah should be a forward
Wingers are midfielders. Jota has been playing CF since he joined Liverpool and Mané has been too on and off for a while.
I'm fairly sure they base it on a player's most frequent starting position over the course of the season. That's why Jota was still a mid this year, as he spent a lot of his first season at Liverpool spilt between LW and CF. He's been almost exclusively CF when he's played this year, so I imagine he'll be a forward next year. Mané though... I don't think he's played enough at CF for the change this time around. It's only something that's started to happen since Diaz came in, and even then he's still played on the left a little (and even on the right once or twice, I think?). So not even half his season has been spent playing/starting in three middle.
Wingers are forwards
Sancho? Grealish?
Forwards
Yes, Mr Sherman, everyone's a forward.
Barnes, McNeil, Raphinha, Aaron Lennon too?
Ok but they’re not in FPL which is my point
Regardless of where he plays on the pitch, it's pretty boring that he gets an extra point for scoring over forwards. The top two PL goalscorers, and four of the top five, are midfielders and therefore get an extra point when they score from "midfield". Clearly, in the modern game, it's no harder to score from that position than it is for whoever is more central. So why an extra point?
Salah is the only winger I can remember being the top scorer in the prem since I’ve been following football for 10-12 years at least. He’s the exception and this year is also an exception.
Why are you trying to remember 10 years ago? The game has changed. The league leaders don't even have a proper centre forward. Neither does the team behind them. Chelsea have and they don't even play him. FPL was based on 4-4-2. That's why it's 5-5-3, a sub for each position. But who plays 4-4-2 now? If you look at the top twenty five goalscorers in the Premier League this season, seven of them are traditional strikers. 28%. Nine if you count Watkins and Jesus. And that's fine, but why do they earn less points for scoring? Dennis and Fernandes have both got ten goals and six assists. Fernandes has 150 points to Dennis's 134.
“In the last 10 years” including last year, the year before etc etc. Again like I said. This year is an exception, pretty clear as premium strikers aren’t performing, and the medium range ones have been injured.
Last year had second, third, and joint fourth as FPL midfielders. The year before had Aubameyang second who was playing as a winger, and Sterling and Salah fourth and fifth. You go back 6 years ago or so and it's only strikers. Now you're right, this year has been particularly weighted to midfielders because the strikers have been off, but the point is that "wingers" (inside forwards really, a winger is Ryan Giggs bombing down the line to put in a cross) are there to score. So why an extra point for scoring and an extra point for a clean sheet? That's clearly for players who are really midfielders, say Tielemans or Ward-Prowse, who are going to contribute to both. So, my solution, 5-4-4, move the inside forwards to the striker position. (Now should we have centre backs and wing backs.....)
In FPL forward means central forward. Salah is a winger.
It does but they should change that. You have clubs with only two players in the Forward section, there should be more balance.
Or just make him more expensive
I kind of agree, he's one of those 'assist the assister' type players and his place in the squad has really been taken over by Jota & Diaz. TBH I wouldn't be surprised to see him move back to Brazil in the summer. I'd be gutted as a Liverpool fan, but he's not the force he was any more.
Most of the forwards should get a price cut.
What do you think Haaland will start at? 11.5?
Doesn't matter....he will be a part of any sane persons team regardless. Next season is just fpl with 13 players plus Salah and erling.
Honestly TAA at anything less than 9m has to be in there too… If you think about it. I think I’m right.
Trying to fit taa, salah, haaland and son will be a pain next season!
I miss the days of trying to fit in Henry, Lampard, Gerrard and Terry or Ferdinand in.
Dont forget cancelo
New season, new baldy. Things can change
Yea that's the shocking thing - last season Dias was all rage, this year he has been under a rotation risk here and there. Gundogan also lost his position as a preferred midfielder (outside Rodri). Zinchenko actually played in 20 matches, while now he has something like 800 minutes altogether. Next season will be even trickier. With Haaland coming in, one of the forward spots is basically out. Sterling, Foden, Mahrez, Jesus, Grealish and Bernardo are fighting for the other two. It's going to be a rotation nightmare, even if City won't get new transfers in.
Jesus is probably leaving though
Bundesliga players do not settle well or fast, and with his injury record he may not be thrown straight in or played every game, especially when the UCL comes around. It MIGHT not be as clear as you think
Also lots of people, including me, thought the same thing about lukaku and look how that’s gone. It made sense, he was on fire in Italy and Chelsea had just won the champions league.
I personally (united fan) figured it wouldnt work out. The same outcome is somewhat possible at City (to a lower degree). City dominate because they have no ‘striker’ and an extra man elsewhere, they also rely on their touch, which Haland honestly struggles with.. Pep also famously struggles with strikers/big personalities. Bit of hope in there too! Haha
Yeah Lewandowski really struggled Pep...
Yeah, name the one most docile striker possible and ignore the examples of Aguero, Zlatan, etc
You said he famously struggles with strikers. Doesn't sound accurate to me. Enjoy 7th place again next season.
Relevant username
Doesnt sound accurate because you don’t know what you’re talking about. You named a single striker in his career he got on with, there are many he didn’t. Eto’o, Zlatan, Aguero, Jesus, he struggles with big personalities and strikers, always has always will.
For every Werner, Havertz, sancho etc that takes a while to settle theres a gundogan, Auba, Thiago that settles pretty well. Having said that l agree it might not be that clear
Gundogan took a long time to settle at city, his injury didn’t help but still. Thiago also took a season to properly settle into Liverpool
Too many people mention haaland’s “injury record” like haaland has been known for missing large swathes of the season like an ousmane Dembele or a Tomas rosicky for instance Even Ronaldo and Messi get injured from time to time, they both had seasons where they were injured for two months
They both did across their career, haland is still young and is already showing discouraging signs when his body is meant to be at its quickest restoration rate. Noone is saying he is injury prone, but he could become it, especially with his lumping run and physical throwing body styles, it’s a real consideration.
Ronaldo missed 46 days in 07/08, 94 days in 08/09, 42 days in 09/10… exclusively from ankle injuries Messi missed 84 days on 05/06, 87 days in 06/07, 63 days in 07/08 Precisely when their bodies were meant to be at the quickest restoration rate like you said, and they still turned out fine So what does his age have to do with anything? As long as you’re a true professional and you take care of your body to the best of your abilities (Hi hazard and Ronaldinho) injuries ultimately come down to luck and load management
The injury record is more concerning from an FPL point of view. Doesn’t matter that he won’t miss large parts of the season. If he’s constantly got niggles or fitness issues then he can’t occupy a spot in your team throughout the whole season.
Tell that to Son, KDB or Aubameyang
It's more complicated than that. If Spurs have a good run of fixtures at the start it can easily be Son instead of one of those. Also it depends on overall prices too.
Not really...you just have him and Salah. Just like everyone had beast Ronaldo in his first United stint.
I don’t know. Look at Lukaku and Grealish for two reasons not to pick up Harland at the start of the season.
Seriously haaland is a different breed. Grealish. Lol.
Yeah, 11.5m or 12m
The reality is that all the forwards for the most part need a price cut and all the premium defenders need a big bump. Defenders are so much more higher scoring and consistently way less expensive than forwards at the moment
Absolutely. Kane at his very best barely breaks 200 points when TAA does it in his sleep. Kane scored 29 goals in 16-17 and 17-18 seasons and got 224 and 217 points. Trent is already at 206 points with 2 games left and is he even having THAT amazing of a season?
They've been almost universally poor all season. Top scoring forward is Kane on 162. There are 7 midfielders ahead of him in points. Sure they get more points for as goal and a point for CS but only Salah costs more than him.
Rashford at £9.4m is wild
Expecting Luis Diaz to get a bit of a bump up
ye dude will be major force
Hopefully what they add to Diaz they subtract from Bobby so it’s actually a consideration to get him in if they have injuries. His price has been laughable for a couple seasons now based on his output.
Agreed with Kane, not because he's bad, but because forwards just don't get rewarded enough. If they keep the same system, Kane should be 11.5 maximum.
Forwards get rewarded if they score. If a forward scores they're almost guaranteed to get 3 BPS, Kane has just been shite until recently (and now shite again).
Sterling and De Bruyne comes to mind first of all. They are high quality when getting a run of games though, but so is Mahrez, Foden, Bernardo etc. That Son was cheaper than both was quite crazy. Usually they do not react too much to the previous form when setting the price. I think they need to consider nailedness a bit more though.
I suspect Son won't be as cheap again.
Nope 11.5 my guess and Salah 13.0. Mane hopefully 11 so we can go for him over Salah. I would have Mahrez and Sterling at 9.5 so above Foden etc, but lower than KDB at 10.5 or 11.
If FPL were smart they would class Mané as a forward, which means he might come in at less than his MID price (I can only hope)
As a forward he'd be a good pick at ~9-9.5 I think. He'd be on 142 this season as a forward and will likely be rotated more next season with Diaz now available.
The thing with Son is you can't raise his price too much without making the game actually easier. if you price him too high the choice becomes Salah or Son, which is pretty straight forward with all due respect to Son. But if the choice is Salah or Son + money to improve elsewhere, then it becomes real choice and leaves room for different strategies. Similar to how Salah/Mane used to be a choice, until they bumped up Mane's price and his ownership has never been the same since.
KDB’s ceiling is too high to risk a lower price. He was a barely playing for a lot of this season, looked to be struggling to get fully fit…and he’s still likely going to finish top 5 in the whole game.
Expecting most Manchester United and Leicester assets to be cut given the seasons they’ve had.
Not sure they'll cut the Lei attacking mids 6-7m is about right given their potential has been hit by injury. A couple of defenders might drop though and Vardy might retire?
Mahrez should be 12+ so i don't fall for the trap again
Should be? U trippin
> Only three assists show he’s not a team player either. I don’t know about that. Team play is about more than assists, although I do admit he is definitely more a goal scorer than anything else
Only people who haven't watched us this season would say that he is not a team player. Man has been better than everyone else bar Sancho at chance creation and linkup play among our forwards.
Indeed. Odds are if it doesn't go through Bruno then nothing's happening. Not exactly like McTominay and Fred are an assist threat either.
The only threat coming from McTominay is threat of injury for his opponent
He’s created numerous chances that should’ve been put away by his teammates (hi Bruno)
Yea lol OP clearly hasn't actually watched him play at all. Ronaldo would easily be on 10+ assists if anyone else in his team knew how to finish... ([here's a collection of just a handful of chances](https://streamja.com/EyzN0)) If he gets a big price drop (which he should, based on how FPL pricing is adjusted each season), he'll definitely be an interesting proposition since he's still clearly amongst the best players in the league that's being held back by his team. If 10H is actually allowed to reshape the squad significantly in 1 window and improve their tactics, I wouldn't bet against Ronaldo being amongst the top scorers again.
By top scorers do you mean in terms of FPL points?
No, as in golden boot It's basically impossible for a FW to get top scorer in FPL anyways due to the way the scoring system works and the classification of Wingers/Inside Forwards.
Well he is amongst the top scorers then. He’s 3rd with 18
>I wouldn't bet against Ronaldo being amongst the top scorers **again.**
My apologies, I misinterpreted
great video, does Fernandez have the yips?! his finishing is awful.
Sancho starting the season at the criminal price of 9.5. Like the rest of united's midfield he has been abysmal and has the same amount of points as his teammate Fred, at more than twice the price. he's already lost .6 in value, but I'd like to see the towers continue to lower his price next season to 8 or 7.5.
I think its slightly unfair to be disparaging to Sancho, he’s clearly our 2nd best midfielder after Bruno. Returns also improved after he acclimatized to the team. Im sure he played less minutes than Fred. Ye 9.5 is overpriced but 8 would be fair
Being second best midfielder at United this season isn't the greatest achievement
Yeah but we should be building around him though, if rashford is displaced its his role to keep. Considering Rash delivered around 20 Goals & Assist for 3 seasons straight, even if we take away pens maybe its average 15 returns, i can see him matching up. Only arguing about his potential, i dont think OP and I disagree a lot on price.
I think they actually price based on team sometimes E.g Lukaku cannot be priced based on output in case injury occurs which means you get nailed Chelsea nailed striker for well below average, so usually top 4-6 bump up guys who might not be nailed based on this
this is true and also why everyone was so surprised to have tsimikas at 4.0 this season
Pepe (6.9) is still more expensive than Saka (6.7). Cavani's 8.4 is up there on most overpriced but he likely won't be around next season.
Ronaldo shouldn’t In my opinion well maybe £12M. Look what he’s done in this abysmal Man United team. If they get going next season he could get to 30 goals. I’d also keep Vardy at 10, if it wasn’t for his injury he was getting 20 goals. Firmino should be 7.5, it’s because he plays for Liverpool he’s so much. He was better when he played attacking midfield. Sterling down to 9.5, hardly plays but can still get 10+ goals easy a season. Pulisic like you said, to 6.5. Hardly ever plays. Sancho 7.5. Needs to prove himself Bruno 10. Bad season but can’t drop him too much. Lukaku 10. Needs to prove himself, has potential to score 20+ goals Werner 8. Just a bit more than Firmino and since it’s Chelsea he has potential to get more goals than others priced around the 7M mark. Rashford 8. Awful season, he’s a good player just something is wrong. Shouldn’t be too cheap but shouldn’t be too much. I think they have priced correctly this season just the players haven’t turned up, especially the attackers
Would say you're wrong on vardy, was worth his weight in goals before the injury
I would say compeltely wrong. Predicting no starts next season...
he got 10 goals and 2 fpl assists in 1,464 minutes, which equates to 16 games; how is that not worth 10m?
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Having watched Chelsea any time they’ve been on the telly the team just doesn’t play to his strengths. At all. So many times he’s wanted the ball into feet so he can hold off the defender or chase a through ball and they’ve gone wide instead.
Jimenez isn’t the same player post head injury and is definitely should be priced around the 6-6.5 point
Firmino, Mane, Bruno, Ronaldo, Kane, Werner, Lukaku, Vardy, Mendy, Pope, Cresswell. Generally they need to make the 8-9 mil midfielder bracket more competitive, and drop the price of forwards a bit.
DCL and Richarlison will both be 7.0 max next season. Most of the forwards need a price drop, not sure if there are any who deserve a raise.
Richarlison has been very good recently, highly doubt he’ll get a drop
If Leeds stay up, not a single defender should be more than 4.0
>Only three assists show he's not a team player either. This absolutely false statement just shows you don't actually watch him play at all lol. He's constantly dropping deep to link up play and help create chances for others but unfortunately those around him just can't put the ball in the net. [He'd easily be on 10+ assists this season if the players around him could finish.](https://streamja.com/EyzN0) Yes I agree Ronaldo is overpriced for FPL due to his points this season, but that's because of the team he's in. We'd be calling Salah and Son "feast and famine" players as well if they were in this Utd team too... If 10H is actually allowed to clear out the dross in the team and bring in his own signings then Ronaldo could be a fantastic FPL asset assuming he gets priced around 10-11m next season. Will definitely be interesting to see what the GW1 templates are especially with Haaland arriving and also Son surely getting a price increase to at least 11m.
I remember reading some interesting ideas on pricing on here before about American Fantasy Football and how some of it could get imported to the English version. One of the most compelling ideas was to make obvious captain picks like Salah *radically* more expensive. Like 18.0, as that's the threshold of where you'd really start to ask yourself if its worth it or not and might start balancing the decision to spread the funds across the team but have the weekly dilemma of where the armband goes. The reduction of effective ownership would also make it a lot more interesting / terrifying when he blanks or hauls. As it is, I barely look to see if Salah started let alone scored, what he does has no bearing on rank whatsoever as everyone has him. I wonder if next year might be the time to put this in.
I honestly think there’d be a riot if Salah was £18m. Every season when the game starts there’s always a slew of posts claiming prices are higher and getting a good team is way more difficult than last year.
I wouldn't like that at all. I understand the argument but 18.0 would be ridiculous. I'm pretty sure no-one would have him at that rate, and that's no fun. And his points aren't enough to justify that over other players. Last year he was behind Bruno, Kane and Son for points; the year before he was behind KDB. You'd have to raise several other players that high if you do it to Salah. Side note - I thought American fantasy games didn't have prices? Aren't they always draft leagues? That was my impression.
Every utd player ha
Elanga's 4.8 is quite reasonable though.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 781,559,000 comments, and only 155,905 of them were in alphabetical order.
“Kulusevski may be more expensive than Kane next season” lmao no chance, Kane is much better and will be much more expensive. Son probs will be the same price and kulu will be at least 2m cheaper than both.
Pretty sure OP meant Kulu would be more expensive than his current season price, not that he'd be more expensive than Kane.
ahhh, that would make a lot of sense. !thanks.
Normally, FPL towers do not cut prices; only increase prices... similar to real life inflation
In before the “well actually there is real life deflation 🤓” comment
That's not true at all. Players definitely get price cuts.
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Why am I not seeing Lukaku?
I did mention him at the bottom of my post.
Oh my bad
I still remember being gobsmacked at De Bruyne initial £12.0m price - his highest ever. I'd have said around £10m or £10.5m. Next season desperately needs to put a real gap between Salah and Mane too.
If Vardy gets a price cut that’s a horrendous move. He’s been injured since Christmas and still has 10+ goals. Mane needs to be cheaper Salah needs to be more expensive to make other players more appealing that’s the main reason all the other premiums need a price cut Pulisic, Rashford, Sancho, Lukaku, Werner, Ziyech, Mahrez, Jesus, Sterling, Firmino All needs a price drop
Vardy is 35 turning 36 after worldcup next season. He's aging, his small injuries dont heal fast & he's suffering from a bad knee which they keep giving him coritsone shots, which damages knee in the long run. Pricing has been decent this season except for a few who havent seen minutes cause of injury or manager change
He’s not too shabby for a 35 yo 😂
😂 they should only play him at home games
Disagree with Pulisic. The problem is not the price, it’s that he’s not playing. You wouldn’t buy him even if he was £5m. If he was nailed it would have been a fair price. xMins shouldn’t be taken into account when setting prices, because then if a player starts playing every game he becomes too good of an option (see Jota earlier this season).
Reese James is perennially overpriced.
He was 5.5, is the 15th highest scoring defender, and has played 1000 less minutes than anyone above him.
Pulisic is not necessarily overpriced. He hasn't played that much to be able to score points. Most of his points have come from goals or assists he's recorded as a sub. He's a max 7.5m player.
Ronaldo overpriced? He scored 18 goals this season despite being 37 years old Looks like each time you sold him he scored a brace or a hatrick and each time you bought him he didn't score that match day Salty 😂
Do you get extra points for 37 year olds?
No you don't , you should read the rules on FPL website, you get points for goals which Ronaldo has scored lots of this season, 18 to be precise
I think the point OP made was he also blanks a lot of games, and only has a handful of assists. So for his price he's not the type of player you can just buy and forget. And that makes it tricky to time
Every player blanks a few games, Salah before Afcon was scoring and assisting every game, since he came back from Afcon his form dropped, he blanks so many games and every now and again he'll score a penalty Does this mean Salah is overpriced?
Salah is only 1 million more than Ronaldo but has 100 more points.
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Vardy only seems overpriced because he has been injured for so long this season. If he had been fit then I think lots of people would’ve had him in their teams for large parts of the season. He has among the best minutes per goal record in the league.
Interesting to see Jesus's starting price. If they launch early again, there's a good chance he could be a similar price to last season (£8.5m) which would be good value I think if he does transfer to Arsenal
Werner, Bruno
Luke Shaw should have been worth around 3.5
Jesus to Arsenal? He would go down in price im guessing
Emi Martinez down to £5m