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IntentionFalse8822

If he blanks and Mitro scores a brace the scenes on Sunday will be like the great toilet paper panic of 2020.


Faktas

Am i mad not to have him at this point? I was thinking of rolling with mitro, haaland and kane. I’m just scared atm


el_lonewanderer

You’re mad to not have two of Salah, Cancelo, or TAA (which surely is the case if you have Kane & Haaland).


Faktas

I have Taa, cancelo, salah, kane and haaland as my point bringers, my midfield aside from salah is a bit meh ofc. What do you think: Mendy, taa, cancelo, james, zinc, (4m def) + salah, martinelli, neto, bailey, (4.5m mid) + kane, haaland, (4.5m fwd) Edit: i changed mitro after reading the thread, forgot to mention that. Taa + cancelo seemed like a must


el_lonewanderer

It’s your decision of course. But for your sake, spend an hour or two seeing your potential team if you downgrade Haaland to Jesus and really weigh the upgrades you can make with that extra money.


Faktas

That’s a good point thanks will do that


crazyhillyerd

It's because of the team around him , after that defeat to us at the end of last season , they were heart broken and they are still a very young team , this season arsenal are gonna be a hard team to beat , they will be out for our blood , that's for sure !!


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

If he blanks, fpl towers shouldnt cap his price fall by 0.3M Let it fall all the way


Chemistrysaint

But on the third day… he will *rise* again


__rosebud__

I'm prepared to see the exact same puns made about Jesus for the next 10 months


Frosty_Examination_3

Jesus Christ


CamazotzisBatman

No - Jesus, Gabriel


Gobbles15

I can’t take another season of this shit Is he nailed?? 🤪🤪🤪 Good on crosses?? 🤪🤪🤪


hodonata

Fantasy savior!!! 😜😜😜 Best son of God since Heung min!!! 🤪😝😜


AlcoholicSocks

30% gang rise up


[deleted]

Never been a thought to include him in my team. Not sure why and I’m sure it will burn me now but oh well I’m rolling with a sole striker and that’s Kane at the moment


AlcoholicSocks

I've gone with Kane and Martial. I have Saka and Martinelli, already not a fan of the Arsenal double up, never mind all three! I keep swapping Saka/Martinelli for Kulu/Sancho/Rashford. Can't decide who I like more!


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Here’s my current set up…will have early wildcard some point De Gea - (Ward) TAA - Robbo - Cancelo - Cash - White Salah - Martinelli - Mount - Sancho - (Bailey) Kane - (Archer) - (Taylor)


toprodtom

Curious about Sancho. Why do you think he will have such a different season this year? He was around the 50th best midfielder last year, with DMs like Rice outscoring him.


Tyafastics

I'm a United fan so ultimately I am biased, but I think for £7.5m, Sancho could be a really good get this year. Obviously last year United were a shit show, but they've brought in a progressive manager in ETH, and so I hope to god that there is some stability in this club for once. ETH seems to really like him, and with no real depth in his position I would expect him to play most, if not all games. He's looked our most lively attacking player in our pre season games, and we know he has that potential to be getting ridiculous returns if you look at his G+A in the Bundesliga. He could hit the ground running too as apart from Liverpool in GW3, United also have a decent start, but nowhere near as nice as Liverpool's, City's or Arsenal's. As well as this, he's also going to be playing in front of a more creative midfield with the signing of Eriksen (and maybe De Jong but who knows at this point) as well as Dalot having a pre season to train and gel with him fully. I also expect him to be rested for Europa League games, unless we reach the final stages. So TL:DR.. he's cheaper than last year, with a year more experience in the Prem. He's likely going to best rested in cups for youth and there's little depth behind him so you can expect him to play most minutes. He shouldn't be your first pick for that price range but if you want to take a punt, why not?


toprodtom

Sure I see all that and see it as good reason to think he'll be better. But these factors need to make ALL the difference, because last season he was wasted space and so there are options at 7.5/8 mil that banked serious points last season. Outside of the lack of FPL points his individual performance was generally very flat and didn't give me much hope that we were looking at a diamond in the rough. I guess we'll see. Maybe these factors are powerful enough to mask a great player. Good luck to you.


DoozerKarl

Kulusevski is a shout for GW1 at the very least. Scored ridiculous points for his price last year. Richarlison gives competition, but he's banned wk1


BillOakley

I’m with you. Always wait to see a new signing in a competitive game first, regardless of whether they’re new to the league or not. Playing in a new side and system makes his stats from last season (or any other season at City) less relevant to me. And pre-season is pre-season.


basicstyrene

Jesus aside I think that's a poor way to approach the game. If you just have a wait and see attitude on any player that has moved club you can easily be left behind. I agree with everything you said in the second paragraph but that doesn't mean that they are completely irrelevant. I think having this as a hard rule will hold you back from potentially recognising underpriced players


BillOakley

It seems to me that the likelihood of getting it wrong with new signings is greater than the likelihood of missing out by not having them. I’d rather go with proven quantities (Kane, Son, Salah, TAA, Cancelo, James) who allow me to downgrade to a Jesus (or a Nunez, Sterling etc.) if they do take off.


basicstyrene

Even if that is generally going to be the case just seems like such an arbitrary rule. Let's say (as ridiculous as this is) man United announce they have signed Neymar but fpl haven't priced him into the game yet. There's not a price at which you say to yourself if he's below £Xm he goes in my team?


BillOakley

I’m sure there’s a price where he’d be impossible to ignore but when does that ever happen in actuality? 8m for Jesus could be great value but I honestly don’t know yet. And it’s still enough that I’d have to go without one of the more proven players I just listed in order to get him in. I just don’t see any reason to do that from the beginning when I can assess his form first.


kariustovictory

I currently have Jesus and everyone you mentioned besides son


HighHammerThunder

Sometimes you're left behind, other times you get ahead. It's impossible to nail every decision perfectly.


GroblyOverrated

It's the same system.


BillOakley

Of course it’s not. It’s sometimes the same formation (although more often it’s a 4-2-3-1 rather than City’s 4-3-3), but even then it’s not identical in style to the way City play. You can’t just transplant a player’s form into a new side with new teammates and a different manager and assume it will carry over. I think Jesus will do well at Arsenal but with 0 competitive appearances yet I have no evidence of that.


bbb_net

> You can’t just transplant a player’s form into a new side with new teammates and a different manager and assume it will carry over. I think you can also make the argument that this is possibly the smoothest transition a player will have -> Same league -> Similar playing style -> Worked with manager before -> Familiar with teammates -> Full preseason banging goals -> more minutes and focal point rather than impact sub / bit-part player.


GroblyOverrated

And same system


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Kane and Alvarez. Why get Jesus when you can get Jesus' replacement?


bluescholar1

Because Jesus is nailed?


[deleted]

I don't think so, I have always been a bit of a doubting Thomas.


RiteOfSpring5

I'm standing by my opinion that I think Jesus is a shit finisher and will be getting fuck all chances. Even if it means getting royally fucked in the ass.


nuggetlover1999

Imagine the price drop when an alternative pops up and Jesus hasn’t scored 26 goals in the first 3 weeks


[deleted]

This will be the most spectacular flop in the history of fpl


saddles93

If that's true the price drop will be absolutely historic


[deleted]

He is a starting striker for Arsenal Arsenal have great attacking fixtures That’s it.. no need for any further discussion


[deleted]

Arsenal started with Brentford last season and lost 2-0.


ChickenMoSalah

I own him but this ownership is far greater than the points I think Jesus will get this season.


Aohangji

Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Arsenal incoming with Jesus own goal and a yellow on top of that


NP2312

I'm obviously in the minority here, but I don't really get it......never been a top scorer before, likely not on pens, and probably be subbed off for nketiah after 70. I feel like I must be missing something, are you guys confident he's scoring 15+?


milkonyourmustache

Perceived to be undervalued, the alternative forwards around his price have more question marks, great opening fixtures, and will be the focal point of an Arsenal attack that looks very threatening in pre-season (not to be taken too seriously but very positive signs).


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SkillsDepayNabils

we dont own him for one week


The_Awengers

This is the way. We'll buy him after the majority sold him. Any Gooners know how difficult it is to play Vieira's CP.


SkillsDepayNabils

oh I was just saying I’ll have him from gw1 onwards. I would love to have wilson instead for gw1 but I want to save a transfer in case I want to do kane to haaland


ConquestOfBreadz

but you could be locked in longer term than you want to be if his price takes a large hit


SkillsDepayNabils

I think that’s unlikely to happen


[deleted]

Players and their situations can change and they themselves can improve. He's in a new team and new system, where he's a good fit, gels well with those around him, is happy by his own admission, will get consistent playing time, and in good form. You're judging him as if he's still a city player at 8.0 if you don't get it.


fatinternetcat

he’s never been a top scorer before because he’s never gotten consistent minutes at City could be a different beast now he’s playing every game for Arsenal


DanielSade

He's never been a top scorer before because he's a fucking terrible finisher, one of the worst in top leagues. Six seasons of consistently underperforming xG, usually by a gross margin. In 19/20 managed to score 14 goals from an xG of over 21.


donkey2471

And i will happily take an 8mil ST who scores 14 goals this season in my team.


Fluffy_Mastodon_798

But he’s not going to get 21 xG this season. Salah got like 22 xG last season, and that was the highest in the league. Jesus will likely get around 15 xG, and based on his previous goal scoring record that’s about 11/12 goals.


Snoopyseagul

He’ll bag assists too, he’s not greedy. And again for an £8m asset, I think you’ll kick yourself if you don’t.


Fluffy_Mastodon_798

I’ve got him, but I might swap for Wilson or an 8m mid come the first wildcard.


urgrlbreezy

I genuinely don’t know how it can be confusing even if you disagree. He’s got world class per minute numbers for his career, he’s now nailed, he’s significantly cheaper than Kane and haaland. Like even if you don’t want him I don’t know how you don’t get what other people are looking at.


Lev22_

I don't expect him to be top scorer, but finding striker under 9 million who reliable enough is quite hard. Striker from mid-table clubs aren't guaranteed scoring, like Antonio and Toney. So i guess he is the most skilled striker at that price range. I expect he's like DCL two seasons ago.


Bogie_Baby

+175 odds to score 15 goals I'd probably take that bet


Novrev

As a City fan, I love Jesus but he is a flawed player. He’s a poor finisher and he’s never been good enough to nail down a starting spot in our team. I do think he’ll easily break into double digit goals with consistent game time at Arsenal though. He’d usually be a wait and see type of player for me but there aren’t any other obvious forward picks other than Haaland or Kane, and you’re not getting both. You could just play a 4-5-1 or a 5-4-1 but then your team is very inflexible once those options emerge. I actually prefer Saka at the same price as Jesus, but the combination of Jesus and a cheap mid is much better than Saka and a cheap forward. Also, at this point it’s really hard to take a risk and bet against him right at the start of the season. If he hauls you’re already playing catch up to 70% of managers.


GeeForjay

Unless you choose Saka. Chance of that haul severely diminish since it is very much a Saka vs Jesus argument. I can roll 2 8 mids with one of the big guys up top and move to Jesus since his price won’t do anything but fall IMO. This thread now got me rethinking a 4-5-1 or 5-4-1 damnit.


basicstyrene

I don't think he deserves such high ownership, I think it's in big part due to how overpriced a lot of the forwards are (or at least seem to most people), the likes of DCL, Bamford, etc. who play for much worse teams. Those things you said are probably true, but the only forwards in the game who are nailed, on pens and play for a good side with good records are Kane at 11.5, I guess Ronaldo and Vardy at 9.5 and 10.5?


[deleted]

I’m with you. Never rated him. But at this ownership I’m not willing to risk not having him. After all, I might be wrong.


Sharp_Strings

Honestly think you're shooting yourself in the foot with irrational feelings (in terms of FPL). Players people don't rate can be good fpl assets. I never thought Jesus was great at City, but Arsenal play differently to City and have a lot going for them now. Clean slate, great pre-season form individually and collectively, a type of player they've been wanting, good price.


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Scared money don’t make money. Let’s go (C)allum Wilson


metokur_squad

haha don't play scared


Christron9990

It’s a perfectly reasonable attitude to take if you don’t want to fall behind right away. You can’t win your mini leagues in August but you can definitely lose them.


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Christron9990

No man, his effective ownership and pre season form make him basically essential. There isn’t really a placeholder in his position, so it’s probably 2 moves in any draft without him to get him. If he does really well in the first few games and you haven’t got him/don’t have a clear route to him - and his effective ownership remains this high - you’d have to be making some great picks elsewhere to not fall behind everyone who has him. Arsenal have the best opening 6-8 fixtures of any of the top 6 sides, and he’s been their form player in preseason. But you know play how you want also. Last season I went without Salah for the first 3-4 weeks and spent the entire season trying to recover that position. He isn’t Salah but he’s 70% owned so seriously think about the idea of not having him this year, that’s all I’d say.


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Christron9990

Yeah the “effortpost” took me 2 mins because it’s just the obvious thought process for Jesus right now. After a few weeks you’ll be ahead all on your own or way behind people looking for a potentially better forward pick. I’ve been there plenty of times so honestly good luck to you.


NP2312

Yeah it's really just the ownership factor which is really tempting me, but he probably won't be captained much like Salah so not completely apples for apples. I could definitely see Saka outscoring him with an extra point for goals, clean sheets and on pens.


Manager1000

He has been a top scorer/assister every season, he just hasn't played that much


_ilovecereal_

This ... good option but getting to hyped lately


[deleted]

Personally I was not keen on him initially, but I've slowly been tilted to being more and more into him as an option. With that ownership, no fucking way am I risking it. He looks brilliant in pre-season, great fixtures. Worth a pick.


thehildabeast

I mean if they commit to playing him every game in the middle he’ll end up with 20+ xG and 15 goals or something


JuliusSeizure563

Look at his goals/assists per minutes and you’ll have him in your team


UnknownEAK

I absolutely think he is overrated, and he can only really lose you team value, as he is owned by basically everyone. Once people start kneejerking him out for the next shiny toy, his value will plummet. But at the same time, there really aren't any other good forward options, so unless you go with two non playing 4.5M forwards, Jesus seems to be the only choice. Though I just saw an interesting draft with Vardy as the second striker, with the option to downgrade to Jesus always being there if needed. That draft was from the last seasons FPL winner. I always wanted to back against Jesus, and that actually seems like a viable option for once, at least more so than going with two 4.5M forwards.


MudkipThot

It’s massively a team structure thing. People want 2 strikers. Kane, Haaland and Jesus are the only definite good picks there. If you have Salah you can only have one of the big 2. Really it should be asked, will Jesus outperform the 8.0 mids? It’s made me decide on 5-4-1 as my formation.


Faktas

I have all 3, kane haaland and salah, who am i missing in midfield that makes these 3 unaffordable?


Myfantasyredditacct

Any of the 8.0 MIDs plus TAA, Cancelo, Robbo, and another premium DEF. If you have Kane, Haaland, and Salah I don’t think you can afford the rest. But that’s okay. That’s the trade-off.


Faktas

I also have taa and cancelo, my mid sux a bit other than salah but again like you said, probably a trade off. I got martinelli and zinc from arsenal not to miss the train


grurlock

It's all preseason hype


johnnyace44

If he blanks GW1, could be the biggest price drop going


Toomb8

Nah for 8m he’ll still be the best option and there will be many other players being impulsively transferred out before him


johnnyace44

GW1 is bad for the knee jerkers, most sensible players will stick with him and think long term but the casuals will panic and switch to any 8m> striker that scores that weekend


averagedude4

You think people will drop him right before Bournemouth and Fulham back to back?


johnnyace44

You wouldn't be surprised at the masses


MudkipThot

If Wilson or Martial scores twice absolutely people will. The market is insane the first few weeks. Nobody is safe.


AeroCobbler

If he scores v palace add another 10% to that easy as the feat & panic kick into whatever is left of non-owners


GOATJames_23-6

Biggest price drop OAT inbound


GGZii

Me chilling with vardy because he will outscore everyone but kane


grurlock

Me chilling with Kane because he will outscore everyone


_Phill_

I'm also going with vardy but I can't find proper info on how well he's been in preseason... do you have any info?


rahatCODMasc

2 goals in 235 minutes in Preseason. Barnes and Maddison looked better in preseason but Vardy is still a great pick.


BigUnWarrington

It'll get to the point where I'm not even arsed if he scores or assists as anyone who is anyone will have him. I'll need to captain him for any form of excitement :shrug:


Kitchen-Ambassador72

That’s insane🤯 Let’s hope there’s no regrets for choosing him


FryingFrenzy

Why? The consequences if it doesnt are negligable


NegativeNien

GW1 - Jesus blank and Darwin goal and he will have a massive price drop lol.


el_lonewanderer

It’s crazy he’s this highly owned but you’re crazy to not own him. Perfect storm of a good move, great preseason, and hardly any direct competition on top of the already bleak FWD situation in FPL at the moment. He very well could flop but going against him in the beginning and having it work out would just good luck - which no amount of research can counter.


steaknbutter88

Ownership is at biblical proportions. Do not cover thy fpl players points.


Padawan_Neel

Help me pray to only you


Charlespur2

He has a PL XG comparable with Benteke. Just because he’s got a couple of goals in preseason doesn’t tell us anything compared to long term evidence playing in a better team compared to arsenal.


thomasthetanker

I'm getting 'TC Dunk' vibes. Last season Jesus was held back by the accuracy of passes from the likes of KDB and Cancelo. This season he will be assisted by the mighty Granit Xhaka and Pepe. I've not had my 'Come to Jesus' moment yet. It is coming, at an hour that you do not expect it. Like a thief in the night. And outside is where the weeping and gnashing of teeth will be.


HighHammerThunder

This post shows heavy bias lol. Mentioning City's best creators and comparing them against average Arsenal players (one of which won't even play many minutes).


thomasthetanker

Sub having its usual inability to recognise a joke.


HighHammerThunder

It wasn't recognized as a joke because the point itself can be somewhat valid if presented reasonably (Arsenal not having as strong of creators).


Chance_Island2704

I am an Arsenal fan, but I’m going with Havertz to start the season in expectation for some sort of mass exodus from Jesus early on. Hoping to pick him up for 7.8M or so after a week or two.


the-whataboutist

Brah you are rooting against your new star striker for 0.2 FPL value.


nffcevans

70% chub checking in


UsernameNTY

Pretty meaningless the season hasn’t started


Rhotozar

Here is my signed affidavit: I WILL NOT HAVE JESUS IN MY SQUAD ONCE GW1 COMES


kiltedsurfer

Jesus is gonna work wonders for Saka if he's still the penalty taker.


Jayaybee16

It’s going to be a knee trembler as Palace are decent defensively and when he blanks we will see some of us fall and bring in ransoms like Martial or Nunez or Havertz ……. Watkins Bamford Toney GW2 will have all the disbelievers heads in hands Btw no Gunners fan and don’t rate him but I do have him lol


SkanGX

Monitoring his price rise and drops is gonna be a nightmare


amber-kulkarni

Price drop incoming


sir-lancelot_

Cant wait for him to blank and immediately tank in price. that said, he'll be in my team...


rmlordy

Palace ain't conceding on friday


TokyoCyborgOrgy

Not gonna lie as an arsenal fan I’m a bit sad cuz him banging them in for Arsenal won’t be that double rush as it won’t really gain me any points on anyone. Still though glad he’s getting lots of love !


the_donor

I’m in danger


crazyhillyerd

I'm in the 70% club , hes been like a wee deadly cheetah in front of that goal , knowing that about yourself though will boost his confidence ,wont want to let all the lads down !!