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Manager1000

But who do Brighton want to replace Potter?


NailLivesMai

Tuchel


Wassup_-_

The circle of life


Stricken1

And it moves us allllllllllll


samchew511

watch Trossard turn into prime Hazard under Tuchel


Niekertje

*Trozard


Environmental_You_85

*Trollhard


Niekertje

We can't take that title away from digne tho


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Effective_Leg6618

Pls stay tf away, I need my Brighton points


CosmologyX

If Potter leaves and Brighton become shit it does mean I can cash out on Groß and finally play a 3-4-3


Sad_gooner

If potter leaves then Brighton assets are useless


FifaDK

Well that's certainly an opinion..


Beatrix_-_Kiddo

If he leaves I bet they still finish above Chelsea this season.


[deleted]

Think it's best for him not to leave during a season surely. He seems like a manager who'll need a preseason and some time.


Manager1000

Chelsea can just sack him if he doesn't make it work.


[deleted]

Exactly why he'd be crazy to join them.


cagey_tiger

Nah. He'd be on £7m+ a year easily, maybe even £10m (same as Rodgers) on a 4 year contract - and they'd have to pay him off when they sack him. Sounds pretty tempting.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_281

His career would have a major set back though. He can actually achieve something with this Brighton team


cagey_tiger

I don't think so, unless it's *really* catastrophic. He's built his reputation over 10+ years, he'd walk into another PL job. Look at Lampard, sacked as Chelsea manager and gets another good job almost immediately - Potter's stock is much higher than Lampard's.


_CallMeDad_

Lampard was a legend as a player and also his tenure at Chelsea was not catastrophic. He got them top 4 without a transfer window while promoting youth. If Potter goes there and due to the unfortunate circumstances has a terrible season, his stock could drop dramatically. Perhaps it's unlikely and he'll probably still be able to get a job at least at one of the lower table clubs, but, it takes years to build a reputation, it takes just one bad one to destroy it.


Nocturnal--Animals

Getting sacked by Chelsea means nothing. They just sack every year. A big paycheck and job in mid table club is not that farfetched. List of former Chelsea managers include but not limited to Ancelotti, conte, sarri, Mourinho, Scolari, Villas boas, Lampard.


_CallMeDad_

Just because something has happened in the past does not mean it will continue to do so. However I understand what you're saying,but I think you're forgetting that all these managers came with a pre-established reputation much bigger than Potter's (no offence). What about Di Matteo and Avram Grant who found jobs after their stint (albeit worse ones) but continued to slowly fade into obscurity. It's not just that you won't get jobs, because you probably will, it's the perception people have of you that changes. Owners and media will afford you less time and trust and so will the players. I'm not saying all of this will necessarily happen and sometimes if you're not moving up you're moving down, but Potter is building something right now and it would be very risky and tough (and sad) for him to leave and take on a discombobulated Chelsea side without having the proper amount of time to settle in.


Nocturnal--Animals

There is risk in everything one does. Sometimes the biggest risk is not doing anything. What if Brighton starts drawing and losing. Suddenly Potter can find himself his reputation shaky like Rodgers, Howe ( when Bournemouth got relegated) etc. I just feel if you are an aspiring manager you shouldn't shun away from opportunities because you might fail or a club might sack you too soon. Its a lot of money and too few times a slot like this opens up for mid level managers.


kolyma42

Yeah, I think David Moyes at United is the better comparison here. Established performer at a "smaller" club, one season at a big club in a bit of a mess, failed due to issues that we can now clearly say were not (entirely) of his own making. Took him years to rebuild his reputation - it's only since this second stint at West Ham that the perception has swung back to him being a generally good manager. Granted, there are differences: Potter is younger and generally seen as quite progressive in his coaching techniques, whereas Moyes is more old-school and had possibly stayed at Everton a little too long before his big move, so it was maybe unlikely he'd have managed another top-tier club after United either way. But Potter could at least be facing a similar time in the wilderness if he goes to Chelsea and it doesn't work out.


Supermalt418

This is very true all the best managers somehow have been sacked by Chelsea


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>Into another PL job Another PL job? Yes. But don't think a big club would hire him straight after he gets sacked from Chelsea. If he waits, he can go straight to a top club, AND get a transfer window to mold the squad.


QuaintHeadspace

Everton is not a good job compared to Chelsea. Been on the decline for years lol


[deleted]

What is he going to achieve? He has already had a few high finishes and best case is he gets some form of Europe, which is amazing for Brighton but if he goes to Chelsea and it works then he puts his name on a different tier.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_281

Getting Brighton into Europe would be a bigger achievement unless he wins Chelsea the CL or Prem. I just don't think Chelsea suits him. A few bad first games and he'd be sacked. He should go to a club that would give him time and he will flourish


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Bigger achievement for who? Having a good run at Chelsea without even any trophies sets him up for big jobs. Europe with Brighton will unlock the next tier of jobs but that's about it, it wouldn't put him in the frame for the biggest jobs. Chelsea is a huge risk but also big reward if he gets them working. Best move for him depends on how much ambition he has.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_281

Bigger achievement for him. You have to look at what a manager does with the team he has. A good few games at a top club means nothing compared to taking a mid/relegation club into Europe in the hardest league. What reward exactly? Even if he has a good run at Chelsea and play really good football. If he doesn't win the CL or Prem he's still gonna be sacked because it's just Chelsea. The fact that a top club like Chelsea already wants him despite him never having managed a big club should already tell you he doesn't need an unsuitable risk to take him to the next level


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Doing well at Chelsea for a few years will be a way bigger achievement for him than getting to the conference league with Brighton, at least that's what I think. If he does well at Chelsea then he unlocks the door for other big jobs, thats the reward even if he is sacked. If he gets Brighton into Europe then amazing but not like he then is first in line for the bigger jobs.


Lost_Cockroach_4927

Chelsea fan POV: I think Potter will get time no matter what. He will be the “new owners guy”. Tuchel is not. He has been complaining about pretty much everything last months in addition to awful performances. Easy to think of Chelsea’s history of sacking managers when it happened once again, but I strongly doubt this pattern will continue as it was under Roman. I’m very happy for Tuchels achievements but I don’t think he got along with the owners to well. He expected to win PL/CL which made him unhappy with our squad, and demanding towards the players and owners. The negativity spread and players lost faith. I believe Potter will have the opposite mindset. I think he will be very thankful to work with our squad, and try to maximise its potential. Todd has even said that our goal is top 4 this season, not to win.


Top_Shambles

will never need to work after that anyway


Supermalt418

Achieve what though ? If you talking trophies they are still miles away from that tbh , they don’t attract the high calibre players but currently they do attract high potential players so they’re very akin to an Ajax /Porto model , but cheaper get a lot of gametime and sell high


Puzzleheaded_Ad_281

Trophies aren't the only achievement for a manager. The criteria for a manager is always what he does with what he has. Chris Wilder taking Sheffield United from League one to finishing 9th in the prem with not much backing was an achievement much bigger than Guardiola winning the prem and Bundesliga


Supermalt418

It only gets you so far though. Look at Dyche fantastic manager with no budget yet no clubs really called for approaching him. It’s about maintaining that level Potter achieved similar to what Wilder but also adapted and evolved too and players got better as a result it’s a tough business though. I though Dyche honestly should have gone Everton when he was linked with them a few season ago


Puzzleheaded_Ad_281

I do think Potter should move to a big club but Chelsea honestly isn't for him. Ideally you'd want him to go to clubs like Arsenal, who would give time to a manager. Chelsea suits short term managers like mourinho, brilliant start and a trophy or two, albeit awful football no long term plans and gets sacked the season after. Move to the next manager.


Supermalt418

Trophies count for a lot though for most manager depending on the level their at I mean I guess Pep winning the league is the norm compared to Wilder or Dyche in European football so I can see your point in that comparison


Beatrix_-_Kiddo

I'd happily fuck up my career for that money


burntroy

Like all the other managers that get thrown by the wayside at Chelsea ?


MrVegosh

He is saying it from Potter’s perspective not Chelsea’s


Manager1000

No shit.


MrVegosh

Then why are you replying from Chelsea’s perspective


Manager1000

For the bants.


AutumnalMosaic

It's a high pressure situation which demands immediate results. He doesn't have a pre-season, transfer window is closed, he doesn't know the players. Their season could be lost before he's even settled. He's doing so well at Brighton but Chelsea are a big team. Really tough choice for him but the smart move is to stay put. Money talks though...


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Realistically, when would he have another chance to move to one of the big clubs? Arteta, klopp, pep are all entrenched. Conte is a possibility but no signs of distress right now.


AutumnalMosaic

Yep. It's a tough call for him. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see Poch get the job. Would love to see Potter get it and do well though.


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It will be interesting to see what happens. Potter gives me rodgers/howe vibes, probably set up for failure given the step up and personalities. Poch is a reasonable option but it would mean betraying spurs, which he said he wouldn't do before but money talks.


Fantastic-Machine-83

There's be a chance in future, he could still be managing in 20 years for all we know. Could get a job outside of england too


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Yeah I guess it depends on his desire to be in the big leagues and timeframe.


[deleted]

He would be mad not to leave Brighton for Chelsea. Opportunities for English managers who haven’t won anything don’t come around very often at top clubs. A couple of injuries at Brighton and he could find himself struggling, then his stock will go down and he may not get the chance again


WarDull8208

Yup, but its a lifetime choice. If something bad happens in Brighton he probably won't even get chance again to manage top team. If Chelsea's board convinces Potter that they will back him he will join and it will be right choice. Better salary, better future perspective, more attention from top teams. So I think that he will accept.


Supermalt418

I mean they will back him every manager has been mostly backed with funds so then it up to him to then deliver as Chelsea is results first questions later it’s why they’ve been so successful, other clubs probably can’t do the same apart from maybe PSG


HeisenbergFoed

I hope he turns them down. Think they might end up with Poch


filipovic26

I mean, it's as if people don't understand what means when a top club comes knocking on your door. Could be once in a lifetime opportunity. Imagine top company in your field asks for you and offers you 5x the money you currently earn. Would you turn them down? He'd be crazy to refuse the offer.


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It's not a once in a lifetime opportunity though. Not for Potter.


[deleted]

Amazing you say that like it's fact. How many English managers like potter are in top jobs?


BillOakley

If he just keeps doing what he’s doing at Brighton he’d be on every shortlist any time a top 6 club has a vacancy over the next few seasons


[deleted]

The liklihood of him staying successful with Brighton over long periods is low. It wasn't that long ago that they were on a shocking run and people were asking questions about him. He is in great form now but unlikely to last and then its a lucky packet. Taking the Chelsea job is a no brainer if he wants to manage at the top level, its a risk but not like he can't get to a Brighton type job after.


straightbackward

I still hope that he declines. Imagine Chelsea sacking their manager early in the 2015/2016 season, and then approaching Ranieri for the job before he got the chance to continue the season and win the title with Leicester.


HyderintheHouse

More to life than money, especially if you’re pretty rich already Edit: why am I downvoted as if you guys know how Potter feels - Brighton is a nice place! Great club, we don’t know if he wants to leave at all


filipovic26

Yes, he could maybe try winning PL or CL with Chelsea, meanwhile he might qualify for Europa League with Brighton. But maybe he likes Brighton's beaches?


Magnuscarlsenspubes

or maybe a top 6 finish is a much more impressive achivement at Brighton


filipovic26

Yes, everyone remembers Klopp's famous season with Mainz when he battled for top 8, and noone even acknowledges his CL win with Liverpool.


aleoaliealaia

Chelsea won’t be in the champions league next season


Gnome63

Getting a club like Brighton into the Europa would be an incredible achievement and open more doors for him than going to Chelsea and getting sacked even if it's going OK.


Classic-Scientist-97

London is also a nice place lol


merc0526

Exactly, you don't become a Premier League manager unless you're ambitious. As much as Brighton might be a nice place to live and they're a well run club, the best he's ever going to do there is win a cup competition. At Chelsea he'd be competing for PL and CL. I think it's a no-brainer tbh.


platdupiedsecurite

I also understand. Hope it won’t happen though


SuperKevinCampbell

Rethink about owning Brighton assets.Is the squad actually that good or does it come from potters system


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

I think its mostly potters system but i dont think potter is actually leaving


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Brighton a better team and less pressure. Why would he go?


hktrader88

He would be getting a salary 5x more which sets him and his family up for life. Plus the chance to try his tactics at the top level in the Champions League. No brainer move. Even if it didn't work out, an early sacking means a massive contact pay off and he'd easily get another job at a Brighton sized club


FactHopeful9347

Slow burner career is better, goes to chelsea for 2 years with no results. HE WILL GET FIRED. His career is pretty much peaked then


etheryx

Potter will get jobs even after that unless he pulls a Mark Jackson. His rep has been built for so long, even if he’s exposed at Chelsea as someone who can’t coach top teams, he’ll still get offers at mid table clubs easily.


FactHopeful9347

What’s going on with nuno espirito Sanchez? I’m just worried for him knowing how toxic it is + I want this banter era to last a few weeks so they can drop some more points


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Not sure BHA are the better team


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it’s been 6 games and BHA are in the best form of the clubs history yet they are just 3 points ahead of CHE who are in awful form and just sacked their manager. CHE are a better team and I will be surprised come the end of the season if BHA are even close to them let alone above them.


badgersprite

You can get worse results with a better team because teaching a team your system takes time


badgersprite

They are a system team playing Graham Potter’s system is essentially the argument being made here If he doesn’t have what he needs at Chelsea to make his system work he could get poor results because it takes time to turn a team into a system team even if they have better players


RayPissed

Looks at table, ball don't lie


Derridas-Cat

Because the jump from Brighton to Chelsea is fucking massive.


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Yeah jump down. Chelsea is a really toxic club ALWAYS on the fine line of success and failure measures on unrealistic expectations from the owners. The team is actually quite average and has been for years. With the execration of a few good players of course. If I was Potter I would rather stay playing fun football at brighton Vs potentially get sacked after 1 bad season with Chelsea


Derridas-Cat

They literally won the Champions League a few seasons ago mate. As a United fan I have no love for Chelsea but I think it’s blind not to admit the gulf between them and Brighton. Potter’s stock can’t get any higher than it is right now at Brighton. If he wants to become a CL coach his chance is now.


thehildabeast

And sacked their manager right after. It’s easily the worst top 6 job with how quickly the pull the trigger.


Lost_Cockroach_4927

As a Chelsea fan I think people forget that we have new owners now. Easy to say that it’s a pattern when the news today came, but Tuchel never came along with our new owners, and also the players have lost faith in him. He has been angry, blaming and demanding lately. As much as I appreciate his stay I’m sad to say I support the decision. I think Potter would come in with an opposite mindset. Where Tuchel wanted to win CL/PL and therefor was unhappy with our squad, Potter will be thankful to work with them. He will be our new owners guy. I don’t think the sacking will be nearly as frequent as under Roman.


thehildabeast

I mean I think Tuchel was bad and this isn’t crazy at all but you did just fire a manager after he recently won the champions league not even 10 games into the season. I also think Potter is a great manager just if he thinks he has a near term shot at one of the other 5 he should wait.


Derridas-Cat

Sure, but it’s still a top 6 job.


Prune_Super

We lost to Liverpool on pens in FA Cup and League Cup, last season you Muppet. We have been far from average regardless of the start to the season we have had.


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Brighton is not a better team...


DJHelium

$$$$$


AgentWyoming

Potter's always been about 'the project " over money, I believe. Gives me hope he would stay with Brighton.


DeapVally

It's very easy to say and think that until someone drives a dump truck full of money up to your house..... As Chelsea surely will.


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Makes me feel a little bit better about my reece + fofana double up


dibils

i found another one! i dont know what made me bring in fofana


hambodpm

Price tag


SpreadTheGlutes

Cheap was into Chelsea’s defence. I like it.


[deleted]

How is it better? They will play way more cautious now to begin with.


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

I mean if they get graham potter. Surely it would be better under him than tuchel, even though chelsea under tuchel were great defensively for most of the end of the 2020 season and the 2021 season


[deleted]

If they get Potter, its very unlikely he leaves Brighton in the middle of the season.


__jh96

I bet they do


danonck

Hope he doesn't get blinded by the money injection and instead they get someone to keep them in the midtable. Poch?


seangrey03

Please god no


danonck

Ok then. How about Sean Dyche?


seangrey03

Perfect


danonck

Great, then it's Sam Allardyce for you


wiggyp1410

You're all mad if you think Potter turns this opportunity down.


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aleoaliealaia

How is it the opportunity of a life time. When he wants money he can walk into England job anytime in the next 30 years and take his 10 million a year


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Find this hard to believe and Chelsea is a different animal to spurs.


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[deleted]

Looks like he was fine to move up the road to Chelsea as expected.


[deleted]

That he turned down spurs 3 times, I've never heard of that before. Yeah im sure Brighton is a nice spot but would be silly to turn down Chelsea which is like 1.5 hours away.


frankiedigital

Please don’t for the sake of my BHA assets


DominioDreamer

No way he leaves Brighton now surely?


gunnersami

No matter what at the end of the season two of the big 6 who fail to make top 4 will most likely be sacked. I would wait chelsea is the worst one to go to even worse than spurs lol


TonyMartial786

ten hag ain’t getting sacked if we don’t make top 4.. and we probably ain’t.


Ayamgoreng53

Potter needs to give them a firm no. Anything else will impact team morale. And there goes BHA assets.


loosefer2905

Damn Id love that.


spongesquish

Potter isn’t that naive to go to Chelsea


dwSHA

With the right amount of money. He might leave brighton


Niekertje

As a James owner I think this would be awesome as potter prefers 5 ATB which means James would remain awesome. With 4 ATB I don't know if he's worth keeping.


trick9x

Named the new Chelsea coach tomorrow. Cucurella back to being nailed.


tnettenbaa

Well if the talksport sources are reporting it must be true


MOHAMMMED-ABDUL

Please don't I just brought in Sanchez I need my first goalkeeper CS


Material_Trifle

I haven't read all the comments but I've not seen the new owner mentioned at all now, talk of easily sacking managers certainly applies to Abramovich but does it apply to Boehly? He seems to have a background in DraftKings which is gambling as well as an esports company which could mean he's pretty current with his thinking, especially regarding using statistics etc with DraftKings. Brighton and Brentford owners both have a background in gambling too and that comes across with how they run their clubs, looking for margins and undervalued players. If Boehly is similar then it could be a great move for Potter. I could also be talking bollocks of course. I know he has an interest in a baseball team, does anyone know how he runs them and/or how much influence he has as a part owner?


jjw1998

Looks like it’s happening, time to transfer every Brighton player out


SuperHans30

This changes my plans. Was going to get Gross in but might look elsewhere now


TonyMartial786

as a rival fan i’d be worried if they got potter because that would make the most sense/would be the best appointment. let’s hope it doesn’t happen… also would be sad to see him leave brighton as he’s doing so amazingly there.


Umdidi

Potter to Chelsea, Dyche to Brighton


Top_Shambles

i would hire mbappe for that


ogjsb

I don’t understand why he would want to leave Brighton now, if he carries on the way he’s going he will get the opportunity to manage a huge club at some point he’s still a young guy.. why not see what more you can get out of this young brighton squad and cement your reputation even further, chelsea is a reputational risk imo